Ironically the PS3/360 era was the generation that I played videogames the least, because life. So I don't have too many fond memories or nostalgia for those games. But I hope Sony is able to get some kind of emulation going for those that do... That said I think buying an original PS3 on eBay is the best way to go — I would consider it, just to play old PS1 & PS2 discs...
@Fiendish-Beaver I've owned two Elite 2 controllers (my current, and the one I returned), and both controllers make distracting buzzing, whirring sounds every single time the motors rumble — it breaks the immersion. The rumble feedback isn't even on the same level of high-def'ness as the Dual Sense. Also, both the left & right analog sticks are way too "loose", reminiscent of the dual shocks 1, 2, and 3. And the analog triggers are way too soft and lack any resistance or stiffness. (Not to mention the triggers lack haptics.) Every time I play my Series X (FH5, for example), there feels like something is missing in force feedback during gameplay ...
Dual Sense is amazing. The only thing I might change is having a "premium" controller where you could install different thumbsticks...and possibly the option for asymmetrical thumbsticks. Otherwise, best controller I've ever played with.
Oh, but I thought we were all wrong and just whiners & complainers and that this would accomplish nothing? Further proof that if you love something, and others are doing things to ruin it and you just want to see it improved and restored back to glory, then SPEAK UP. Don't just sit there as blind, deaf, and muted monkeys, and make excuses for multi-billion and trillion dollar global corporations that merely reward their own execs & board members with these nickel & dime anti-consumer price increases and restrictions.
Like others have said, Now, time for Sony/PD to remove the always-online restriction...
It sucks, but as some have already voiced, the damage has been done. (Not me, particularly, as the gameplay itself is great and I will continue playing competively, but I will be weary of my favorite Sony exclusives going forward.) Hopefully, Sony can learn from this and not make the same mistakes in the future.
@Voltan I'd rather it not — I haven't played an original 30fps game since the year 2020 (Ghosts of Tsushima on PS4). At this point I can't go back, I think I would only buy a game if it had a 60fps option.
@naruball That doesn't make it not true.😋 I singled you out, but you are one of many here and on the web that makes MTX to not be such a bad thing by blaming gamers for whining. So, keep backing the game publishers👍
@naruball Sounds like a problem with game design, if you ask me. That there's not enough varied content in your game that rewards you sufficiently that you need to run the same race(s) over, and over, and over again. But, go on continuing to NOT condemn game makers for pushing MTX by blaming gamers for "whining", and continue to cape/fanboy for Sony — they need your support, now more than ever ...
@PenguinL "The more they're accepted, the more likely Sony will be to expand them to other games. Whether they're optional is irrelevant if the game is designed to push you into buying them." ^^^This. And the "It's not a big deal, stop whining, you don't have to buy MTX" crowd doesn't help in getting this kind of stuff removed from games, and alleviates accountability from these game makers.
@lolwhatno Not arguing with you, we are in agreement. Just pointing out (to everyone), that technically, the game is unplayable whenever Sony/PD decides it is.
Modern_Vintage_Gamer on YouTube just did a GT7 video in which he alludes to the always-online nature of the game possibly being related to car manufacturer licenses expiring after so many years (see MS delisting Forza Motorsport 7 last year, and only being available to purchase via disc version). Possibly, DRM may be the way things will be going forward. Once those contracts expire, I'd imagine Sony/PD, for example, turning off those servers, and this game won't be playable at all (other than music rally🙄). The days of buying a game and being able to play it wherever & whenever you want may eventually be a thing of the past, unless people push back against it.
@Shepherd_Tallon Just expect to do a ton of grinding for credits. That's not the biggest problem, the biggest problem is whenever they perform "server maintenance" (so far, once per week), you can't play the game that you just paid 60-90$£€ for.
@lolwhatno Yeah, except the game is unplayable whenever Sony/PD has to perform "server maintenance". A week ago, it was down for 2 hours, after a long day of work, exercise, family, I just wanted to come home and play the game that I paid $90 for. Nope, you can only play the game when Sony/PD allows you to.
@Max_the_German Great observation. The key word there being "even" — as if to say he'd PREFER the game be played with you gamers purchasing microtransactions, but sure, okay, it's fine if you want to play the game even without purchasing them.
@Hundred_Hand_Slap Oh, sorry, I misread your comment, thought you were going to purchase Returnal instead of GT7, but you already owned/platinum'd it😁 Same here! Got the plat, as well. I was basically still playing it on daily basis, keeping my skills "fresh", at least up until GT7 came out🙄 Time to get ready for getting my butt handed to me again & again with the new expansion😂
@get2sammyb Thanks Push Square for at least shining a light on this. I hear that the major outlets are hardly mentioning this at all, clearly being silenced by Sony's advertising dollars...
@Hundred_Hand_Slap My favorite game of all time, bro! As long as you have the attitude to don't quit after continuously dying, you'll have a great time!
@Pat_trick I've always favored Sony's exclusives, and unique things like the Dual Sense. But I had been keeping an eye on what MS was doing since they botched the Xbox One announcement & release — and they did the things necessary to win players back since the release of the One X. I had always viewed them as sort of the evil global corporation. Meanwhile, Sony has been becoming this over the same time period. This GT7 fiasco — namely, the game that I paid $90 for only being playable when SONY/PD says I can play it — may be the impetus to me making most of my software purchases on my Series X instead ...
"I want to make GT7 a game in which you can enjoy a variety of cars lots of different ways, and if possible would like to try to avoid a situation where a player must mechanically keep replaying certain events over and over again." --- TRANSLATION: I don't want you to have to grind away for hours now that we've decreased prize winnings; therefore, I will save you by offering these credits you can buy!!!
Still no addressing of how your servers being down makes the game completely unplayable for single-player campaign. People have paid you $60, $70, even $90 to play a game, and yet, Sony/PD determines when you can actually play the game that you paid for.
@carlos82 Exactly. There is NO OTHER REASON to decrease payouts other than to slow people's progress and nudge them in the direction of paying for the cars & credits they want. The dev team had 6 YEARS to calculate what they deemed as fair compensation for winning each race/cup, and as soon as they learned that people weren't buying enough microtransactions, they went back and decreased the payouts to force the dilemma on customers of either taking extremely long times to grind it out for credits, or just pay for them.
@Uromastryx You gotta love the anti-consumer, "I back The Man" corporate mentality of some people. "You shut your face, and enjoy what they feed you!!!"
@RubyCarbuncle Those people like to think they are a part of some group that has no displeasure about anything. Everything is fine, everything is all good! That stupid thing you spent your hard earned money on? Be happy with it as-is! These types of people, corporations absolutely LOVE...
@pip_muzz I truly believe that was the pre-release & post-release gameplan. Get their review scores up, get as many people to buy it, then lock everyone in on their terms.
The microtransactions & decreased in-game payouts are bad. What is unacceptable, however, was making the game always-online and preventing everyone from simply playing the single player campaign while you work out "server issues". This isn't some PC free-to-play game — people paid $60, $70, and $90 for this. Shameful. And I won't be surprised if Sony does nothing about it. They couldn't care less, laughing all the way to the bank...
This whole "GT games back in the day, had to grind for months, anyway" attitude is ridiculous. We were all 10 years younger then, with far less responsibilities. Hell, I'm older than many of you, I was senior in high school when the original Gran Turismo came out, so OF COURSE i had all day, all week, and month long to grind away at a single game.
For those of you not familiar with Super GT, he's one of the biggest, if not the biggest, Gran Turismo streamers, and his AI driver (Steve Brown) is actually in GT7 ...
@get2sammyb Push Square should drop its review score for this game by 1 point. We haven't been able to play this game for over 12 hours, all simply because this game's always-online requirement.
@ORO_ERICIUS You literally have a "GT" logo as your avatar. Biased, much? I like GT as much as the next guy, and I have a full on sim rig with Fanatec gear. But this is absolutely scummy. If your idea of "fun" is grinding away "for years" to get cars, then you have too much time on your hands.
Forcing always-online and lowering race payouts while pushing microtransactions, is exactly what is going on here. This alone would have me drop my review score by 1 full point. And these "maintenance updates", I just want to play the damn game THAT I PAID FULL PRICE FOR, instead you lock me out from everything except for (essentially) ***** music rally...
Another night of not being able to play GT7 due to this maintenance 🙄
Anyways...Can anyone tell me, is there a way to return a car's settings back to their defaults? I did all lot of tuning to cars to get them under regulations, including modifying front & rear ride heights and downforce, but now I'd like to them to return to defaults. Is there not a way to do so???
I hope the new F1 2022 will actually have an updated, "next"-gen graphics model. The graphics are way too last-gen and the colors too cartoony, even. For now the few F1 tracks in GT7 along with the Formula Super car are excellent enough to hold me down for a little bit...
I'm probably in the minority here but I think Forspoken looks lit. The State of Play presentation reminded me of my favorite game, Returnal. (And then Sony went ahead and then revealed a Returnal expansion!😃) Also, the protagonist in Forspoken is a cutie, as well.
Love this game. But will say, the online-requirement thing is absolutely stupid & ridiculous. Logged on last night at 11pm after a long day, I just wanted to progress with through single player, and pretty much all modes were disabled to due "scheduled maintenance"... What an effin' joke. Can I just play my game that I purchased?
I'm probably in the minority but I think Forspoken looks lit. Reminded me of my favorite game, Returnal. And then they revealed a Returnal expansion😂 Can't wait.😁 But, other than that, I thought it was a Meh presentation.
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Re: PS3 Emulation Allegedly in Production for PS5
Ironically the PS3/360 era was the generation that I played videogames the least, because life. So I don't have too many fond memories or nostalgia for those games. But I hope Sony is able to get some kind of emulation going for those that do... That said I think buying an original PS3 on eBay is the best way to go — I would consider it, just to play old PS1 & PS2 discs...
Re: PS5's DualSense Dubbed the Best Controller of All Time in Public Vote
@Fiendish-Beaver I've owned two Elite 2 controllers (my current, and the one I returned), and both controllers make distracting buzzing, whirring sounds every single time the motors rumble — it breaks the immersion. The rumble feedback isn't even on the same level of high-def'ness as the Dual Sense. Also, both the left & right analog sticks are way too "loose", reminiscent of the dual shocks 1, 2, and 3. And the analog triggers are way too soft and lack any resistance or stiffness. (Not to mention the triggers lack haptics.) Every time I play my Series X (FH5, for example), there feels like something is missing in force feedback during gameplay ...
Re: PS5's DualSense Dubbed the Best Controller of All Time in Public Vote
Dual Sense is amazing. The only thing I might change is having a "premium" controller where you could install different thumbsticks...and possibly the option for asymmetrical thumbsticks. Otherwise, best controller I've ever played with.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Currency Rewards to Be Increased Following Player Backlash
Oh, but I thought we were all wrong and just whiners & complainers and that this would accomplish nothing? Further proof that if you love something, and others are doing things to ruin it and you just want to see it improved and restored back to glory, then SPEAK UP. Don't just sit there as blind, deaf, and muted monkeys, and make excuses for multi-billion and trillion dollar global corporations that merely reward their own execs & board members with these nickel & dime anti-consumer price increases and restrictions.
Like others have said, Now, time for Sony/PD to remove the always-online restriction...
It sucks, but as some have already voiced, the damage has been done. (Not me, particularly, as the gameplay itself is great and I will continue playing competively, but I will be weary of my favorite Sony exclusives going forward.) Hopefully, Sony can learn from this and not make the same mistakes in the future.
Re: Unity's Enemies Tech Demo Offers a Tantalising Taste of the Future
@Voltan I'd rather it not — I haven't played an original 30fps game since the year 2020 (Ghosts of Tsushima on PS4). At this point I can't go back, I think I would only buy a game if it had a 60fps option.
Re: Returnal's Free Ascension Update Out on PS5 Now
The new trophies don't take away people's Platinum's, do they?
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Fans Fight Controversial Currency Nerfs with PS5, PS4 Farming Exploits
@naruball That doesn't make it not true.😋 I singled you out, but you are one of many here and on the web that makes MTX to not be such a bad thing by blaming gamers for whining. So, keep backing the game publishers👍
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Fans Fight Controversial Currency Nerfs with PS5, PS4 Farming Exploits
@naruball Sounds like a problem with game design, if you ask me. That there's not enough varied content in your game that rewards you sufficiently that you need to run the same race(s) over, and over, and over again. But, go on continuing to NOT condemn game makers for pushing MTX by blaming gamers for "whining", and continue to cape/fanboy for Sony — they need your support, now more than ever ...
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Fans Fight Controversial Currency Nerfs with PS5, PS4 Farming Exploits
@PenguinL "The more they're accepted, the more likely Sony will be to expand them to other games. Whether they're optional is irrelevant if the game is designed to push you into buying them."
^^^This. And the "It's not a big deal, stop whining, you don't have to buy MTX" crowd doesn't help in getting this kind of stuff removed from games, and alleviates accountability from these game makers.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Review Bombed After Challenging Week
@lolwhatno Not arguing with you, we are in agreement. Just pointing out (to everyone), that technically, the game is unplayable whenever Sony/PD decides it is.
Modern_Vintage_Gamer on YouTube just did a GT7 video in which he alludes to the always-online nature of the game possibly being related to car manufacturer licenses expiring after so many years (see MS delisting Forza Motorsport 7 last year, and only being available to purchase via disc version). Possibly, DRM may be the way things will be going forward. Once those contracts expire, I'd imagine Sony/PD, for example, turning off those servers, and this game won't be playable at all (other than music rally🙄). The days of buying a game and being able to play it wherever & whenever you want may eventually be a thing of the past, unless people push back against it.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Review Bombed After Challenging Week
@Shepherd_Tallon Just expect to do a ton of grinding for credits. That's not the biggest problem, the biggest problem is whenever they perform "server maintenance" (so far, once per week), you can't play the game that you just paid 60-90$£€ for.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Review Bombed After Challenging Week
@Medic_Alert Well said.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Review Bombed After Challenging Week
@Mikey856 Boye-boye!👋
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Review Bombed After Challenging Week
@lolwhatno Yeah, except the game is unplayable whenever Sony/PD has to perform "server maintenance". A week ago, it was down for 2 hours, after a long day of work, exercise, family, I just wanted to come home and play the game that I paid $90 for. Nope, you can only play the game when Sony/PD allows you to.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Review Bombed After Challenging Week
@Max_the_German Great observation. The key word there being "even" — as if to say he'd PREFER the game be played with you gamers purchasing microtransactions, but sure, okay, it's fine if you want to play the game even without purchasing them.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Review Bombed After Challenging Week
LOL. Well deserved, indeed.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Patch Restores Servers After 24 Hours, Polyphony Digital Comments on Microtransactions
@Hundred_Hand_Slap Oh, sorry, I misread your comment, thought you were going to purchase Returnal instead of GT7, but you already owned/platinum'd it😁 Same here! Got the plat, as well. I was basically still playing it on daily basis, keeping my skills "fresh", at least up until GT7 came out🙄 Time to get ready for getting my butt handed to me again & again with the new expansion😂
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Patch Restores Servers After 24 Hours, Polyphony Digital Comments on Microtransactions
@get2sammyb Thanks Push Square for at least shining a light on this. I hear that the major outlets are hardly mentioning this at all, clearly being silenced by Sony's advertising dollars...
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Patch Restores Servers After 24 Hours, Polyphony Digital Comments on Microtransactions
@Hundred_Hand_Slap My favorite game of all time, bro! As long as you have the attitude to don't quit after continuously dying, you'll have a great time!
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Patch Restores Servers After 24 Hours, Polyphony Digital Comments on Microtransactions
@PhhhCough lol. Oh, man, bring back Yugo's, for me then.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Patch Restores Servers After 24 Hours, Polyphony Digital Comments on Microtransactions
@get2sammyb You're right. As a show of good faith ... Please, have this 1-Star Roulette Reward, worth 5,000 Cr.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Patch Restores Servers After 24 Hours, Polyphony Digital Comments on Microtransactions
@Pat_trick I've always favored Sony's exclusives, and unique things like the Dual Sense. But I had been keeping an eye on what MS was doing since they botched the Xbox One announcement & release — and they did the things necessary to win players back since the release of the One X. I had always viewed them as sort of the evil global corporation. Meanwhile, Sony has been becoming this over the same time period. This GT7 fiasco — namely, the game that I paid $90 for only being playable when SONY/PD says I can play it — may be the impetus to me making most of my software purchases on my Series X instead ...
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Patch Restores Servers After 24 Hours, Polyphony Digital Comments on Microtransactions
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Has Been Offline All Day
@zebric21 Considering the game is quite literally unplayable (excluding 2 measely and useless modes), this situation has far exceeded DriveClub...
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Has Been Offline All Day
@carlos82 Exactly. There is NO OTHER REASON to decrease payouts other than to slow people's progress and nudge them in the direction of paying for the cars & credits they want. The dev team had 6 YEARS to calculate what they deemed as fair compensation for winning each race/cup, and as soon as they learned that people weren't buying enough microtransactions, they went back and decreased the payouts to force the dilemma on customers of either taking extremely long times to grind it out for credits, or just pay for them.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Has Been Offline All Day
24 hours, and counting! Applause, Applause, Applause!👏
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Has Been Offline All Day
@Uromastryx You gotta love the anti-consumer, "I back The Man" corporate mentality of some people. "You shut your face, and enjoy what they feed you!!!"
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Has Been Offline All Day
@TJ81 👍 That's what I've been doing with Madden for years now
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Has Been Offline All Day
@RubyCarbuncle Those people like to think they are a part of some group that has no displeasure about anything. Everything is fine, everything is all good! That stupid thing you spent your hard earned money on? Be happy with it as-is! These types of people, corporations absolutely LOVE...
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Has Been Offline All Day
@pip_muzz I truly believe that was the pre-release & post-release gameplan. Get their review scores up, get as many people to buy it, then lock everyone in on their terms.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Has Been Offline All Day
The microtransactions & decreased in-game payouts are bad. What is unacceptable, however, was making the game always-online and preventing everyone from simply playing the single player campaign while you work out "server issues". This isn't some PC free-to-play game — people paid $60, $70, and $90 for this. Shameful. And I won't be surprised if Sony does nothing about it. They couldn't care less, laughing all the way to the bank...
Re: New Gran Turismo 7 Patch Lowers Currency Rewards, Fuelling More Microtransaction Criticism
@Amnesiac Yeah, it's all just another conspiracy
Re: New Gran Turismo 7 Patch Lowers Currency Rewards, Fuelling More Microtransaction Criticism
This whole "GT games back in the day, had to grind for months, anyway" attitude is ridiculous. We were all 10 years younger then, with far less responsibilities. Hell, I'm older than many of you, I was senior in high school when the original Gran Turismo came out, so OF COURSE i had all day, all week, and month long to grind away at a single game.
Re: New Gran Turismo 7 Patch Lowers Currency Rewards, Fuelling More Microtransaction Criticism
@Gloamin Yeah, everything is fine. No big deal
Re: New Gran Turismo 7 Patch Lowers Currency Rewards, Fuelling More Microtransaction Criticism
https://twitter.com/_SuperGT/status/1504485019359666186?s=20&t=Qm-P7YIcuVYe85d8MadEBg
For those of you not familiar with Super GT, he's one of the biggest, if not the biggest, Gran Turismo streamers, and his AI driver (Steve Brown) is actually in GT7 ...
Re: New Gran Turismo 7 Patch Lowers Currency Rewards, Fuelling More Microtransaction Criticism
@get2sammyb Push Square should drop its review score for this game by 1 point. We haven't been able to play this game for over 12 hours, all simply because this game's always-online requirement.
Re: New Gran Turismo 7 Patch Lowers Currency Rewards, Fuelling More Microtransaction Criticism
@Juanalf Basically. This is solely the result of the always-online requirement.
Re: Returnal's Haunting Soundtrack Getting Vinyl Release This Summer
This will go perfect with my Astro's Playroom soundtrack😋
Re: New Gran Turismo 7 Patch Lowers Currency Rewards, Fuelling More Microtransaction Criticism
@ORO_ERICIUS You literally have a "GT" logo as your avatar. Biased, much? I like GT as much as the next guy, and I have a full on sim rig with Fanatec gear. But this is absolutely scummy. If your idea of "fun" is grinding away "for years" to get cars, then you have too much time on your hands.
Re: New Gran Turismo 7 Patch Lowers Currency Rewards, Fuelling More Microtransaction Criticism
Forcing always-online and lowering race payouts while pushing microtransactions, is exactly what is going on here. This alone would have me drop my review score by 1 full point. And these "maintenance updates", I just want to play the damn game THAT I PAID FULL PRICE FOR, instead you lock me out from everything except for (essentially) ***** music rally...
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.07 Available Now, Here Are All the Patch Notes
Another night of not being able to play GT7 due to this maintenance 🙄
Anyways...Can anyone tell me, is there a way to return a car's settings back to their defaults? I did all lot of tuning to cars to get them under regulations, including modifying front & rear ride heights and downforce, but now I'd like to them to return to defaults. Is there not a way to do so???
Re: Housemarque Shares Lengthy Look at Returnal's New Endless Mode
My favorite game of all time just added even more good stuff...and fo' free! Can't wait😃
Re: EA Play Members Get a New PS5, PS4 Game This Month
I hope the new F1 2022 will actually have an updated, "next"-gen graphics model. The graphics are way too last-gen and the colors too cartoony, even. For now the few F1 tracks in GT7 along with the Formula Super car are excellent enough to hold me down for a little bit...
Re: Feature: Best Uses of PS5 DualSense Controller So Far
@DrClayman Sure, except developers will continue to make good use of the haptic feedback & triggers.
Re: PS5's Forspoken May Be Delayed, But It's Not Forgotten
I'm probably in the minority here but I think Forspoken looks lit. The State of Play presentation reminded me of my favorite game, Returnal. (And then Sony went ahead and then revealed a Returnal expansion!😃) Also, the protagonist in Forspoken is a cutie, as well.
Re: Poll: We Want You to Rate Your Favourite PS5 Games
Returnal = 10⭐, GT7, Demon's Souls, Astro's Playroom, R&C, Control.
Worst game that I wasted $50 on? Ride 4 = 1⭐ I should have listened to the Push Square review, but I fell into the booby trap of beautiful graphics😖
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.06 Is Available Now, Here Are the Patch Notes
Love this game. But will say, the online-requirement thing is absolutely stupid & ridiculous. Logged on last night at 11pm after a long day, I just wanted to progress with through single player, and pretty much all modes were disabled to due "scheduled maintenance"... What an effin' joke. Can I just play my game that I purchased?
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's Latest State of Play?
I'm probably in the minority but I think Forspoken looks lit. Reminded me of my favorite game, Returnal. And then they revealed a Returnal expansion😂 Can't wait.😁 But, other than that, I thought it was a Meh presentation.
Re: How to Pause in Elden Ring on PS5, PS4
Demon's Souls was similar, you had to go into Photo Mode to "pause" the game action.
Re: GTA 5 PS5 Will Steal a Chunk of Your SSD's Storage Space
Could we get the option to NOT install the online portion of the game?🙄