@RubyCarbuncle 3600 USD at the time (2019). This was after my OLED got burn in and I vowed to never buy the tech again. Ironically, I got an OLED in 2022 and it has been fantastic โ the tech has truly matured and is far more reliable now. Samsung, on the other hand โ I will never buy another one...
@MasterChiefWiggum You can keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better about not upgrading your display. But as a (primarily) PC gamer, the differences are pretty obvious. I pretty frequently switch resolutions to weigh the image quality vs. performance dilemma. And if you can't see the difference between 1080p and 4k, you may need to make an appointment to a optometrist. Heck, even 1440p I can see a difference in that it is slightly softer image. Once you get into the 1728p and 1800p's then it starts getting indistinguishable. (Mind you, I'm speaking only on non-upscaled images.)
I had an Samsung 8K TV...until it died at the end of last year. I wouldn't buy one again. For Polyphony, while useless to 99.98% of GT7 owners, it's always cool to see the limits of tech pushed.
I'm a Pass, but I've also kind of switched to high-end gaming PC's. But even if I was still PS exclusive, it's possible I wouldn't upgrade, anyway. With the PS4 Pro, you had the major technological bump from 1080p, to 1440p and 4K (upscaled). Also, so many PS4 games that were 30fps or less heavily benefited from the power bump. Not to mention PSVR... PS5 games already look great (of course, you can always get better), and so many of them are already optimized to run at 60fps (let alone 30), and even 120fps. I don't think I would drop another $500 for the mid-gen upgrade โ I'd prefer to just wait a full generation until PS6. Hopefully this won't hurt Sony financially, as they typically won't start making money on the consoles until a good 2-3 years after they release...
I've moved onto pc gaming last year, but as a Day 1 PS4 Pro and PS5 adopter, this seems to be excessive & unnecessary. There's only 3, maybe 4 more years left in this generation/life cycle, and by that time they will be asking people to jump on PS6? They are treating consoles like cell phones, to be replaced every few years...
@themightyant Agree 100%! It actually really bothers me that they still put out what I consider to be misinformation about burn-in. You & I were basically in the same exact scenarios, but I had a B6 with burn-in, and I went with the 8K Q900R. But as I said, that sammy died on me a month ago, and I even tried a used One Connect Box from eBay, and then new OEM parts (PBC board and power supply board) for the One Connect โ neither worked. Authorized repair shop wanted $1100, and I said screw it, I am officially done with Samsung. That TV was supposed to be my "forever" TV, or more like my 10-year-ish TV, but not even close. (less than 3.5 years)๐I bought it after the B6 got burn-in, and my first 2 calls for a free replacement were denied. A couple weeks later i said What the heck, I'll try again, and this time they fixed my B6 for free. So, LG kind of made good with me on that.
I will say though, I do believe burn-in prevention has improved greatly since the early OLED's, and the tech itself has matured. Also, I've learned from my own usage experiences of the past (even though I did nothing egregious or "abusive" the 1st time around). I never wanted to go back to having to "babysit" a TV and handling it with kid gloves again, which was why I denied OLED for many years. But that has totally not been the case with my C1. My B6 got burn-in 20 months into ownership, and it was severe. But I've had my C1 for 22-23 months now, I use it as my PS5 & PC display, and not even a hint of even image retention, let alone burn-in.๐ค
Anyways, I'm long-winded again. I hope your Q90R keeps kickin' butt for many years to comeโ๐ช
@Titntin ๐ปFair! Yeah to be honest, I rarely have to get into the WebOS, since it's primarily just a PC monitor, unless switch inputs and power on the PS5 But yes it is pretty clunky, and I can do without the stupid gyro pointer.
I bet the A95L would be amazing. I owned the X95J (2022) briefly, and really liked it alot. This was during my "OLED burn-in, never again" phase when I refused to consider another one. It got sufficiently bright in my upstairs loft, which gets sun-drenched. I returned it, though, in favor of the C1 โ it just felt like I was missing the "punch" that an OLED and its deep blacks were giving me. Once I put on Returnal, I could see the difference in dark areas. That said, it was my favorite QLED, by far๐ P.S., one thing I've learned about regarding all the "nits" talk is, a TV could output twice as many nits as another comparable TV, but that doesn't mean it will get twice as bright โ at least your eyes won't be able to perceive it that way. So definitely a couple hundreds nits here or there won't be so noticeable. I'd focus more on the picture quality.
And, you know how it goes โ You can never get everything in a TV set๐ (unless money is no object)
Congrats on that sound system!!! I need to chill as well, I've spent pretty stupid money on a PC build & simracing equipment in the last 4 months๐
@Titntin I agree. I tend to get my buying advice from channels like Vincent at HDTVTest, AVForums, Digital Trends, and rtings. (I'm kind of Meh on rtings, as they ignored many of our complaints of horrendous blooming on their QLED's and refused to re-test & update their reviews). But those are good starting points, to me, when I begin my TV search...
RE: LG autodimming, it is certainly annoying. I use it as my PC gaming & PS5 monitor as well. But I don't think I would write it off as a good tv buy just because of it. It never kicks in during any kind of gaming, just on occasional web browsing or while working on documents. And as you alluded to, there is a workaround, albeit one that could void your warranty, but that's only a year-long anyway. If I had to guess, the original OLED's (like my B6) were prone to horrible burn-in, so this aggressive autodimming is LG's way of (over)correcting to prevent or slow down burn-in. OLED is certainly not a risk-free technology, I don't care how many people are claiming burn-in is not a concern...
Just had a high-end Samsung Q900R die on me last month after only 3.5 years --- done with Samsung, forever.
LOVE my LG C1, best picture quality of any TV I've ever owned โ and I've owned like 6 TV's in the past 6 years (some were returned), so I have been able to try out/test a lot of different TV's. (Also, my original B6 got severe burn-in, only 1.5 years in & after warranty, and LG replaced the panel at no cost โ granted, it took multiple complaints/phone calls.)
And the Hisense U7 is a great replacement for my Samsung debacle, and is very good quality midrange set...
And yet this thing somehow still sells in ridiculous numbers...which was a large reason behind Sony fighting over that outrageously stupid ABK deal.๐
@Mikey856 lol. Of course you would, you lemming. Affording it isn't an issue โ I'm a high-end PC gamer โ it's the principle. And, on sale, for 50???๐คฃ Apparently, you wouldn't do very well at running a business, either, you schmuck๐คฃ
There's nothing here to remaster.๐คทโโ๏ธIt's already on the same-gen graphics engine as the PS5 TLOU remake. All this game needs is a 4K rez bump, and that of course, should come for FREE.
@Petto it looks terrible. Zero difference between it and my PS3 back-compat version๐Being that I mostly care for MGS1, this is a hard pass for me. When will we get a true remaster of this classic?
@47AlphaTango "There are microtransactions galore, ยฃ3 for a pair of digital trainers, really?"
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the microtransactions in this game only for aesthetic purchases (gear, clothes, liveries, etc.)?๐ค
I am as anti-microtransactions as the next guy, but as long as game developers restrict it to aesthetic upgrades only, and keep it out of player skill upgrades & pay-to-win schemes, then I feel that is a fair compromise ...
@Topov81 Current contract runs through 2025 (but can be renewed). 2K has an agreement to make only "non-simulation" (arcade) NFL games --- one would argue that Madden is an arcade, non-simulation NFL game...๐
Looks the same, the "new anatomically accurate player skeletons" make no difference. The only difference I see is the shoulder pads move more like equipment rather than just an extension of their body. The only thing I liked what I saw was some players have their undershirts untucked under their jerseys โ I nice realistic touch. But the player models still bend weirdly at the knees, and also, who in the NFL is still wearing knee pads?????? Heads/helmets are also still too small in relation to the rest of their body.
Doubt much of anything else has changed either, as usual. Another pass.
Why do these big companies think that we need โ or want โ this? I love gaming as much as the next person...but I can actually wait until I get home to play my games on my big screen where I am able to give my full attention towards getting immersed into the game.
I don't care for current day basketball. But as an extreme Michael Jordan & 90's Bulls fan, NBA2k23 is a dream come true. I can make the game look & play like it did back when. The sandbox here is a dream come true for fans of that era...or other eras of the NBA.
...I am speaking in terms of content, and its place in the marketplace in simulation e-sports as the racing game to play (on consoles).
Graphics-wise, of course it will be ahead of GT7. But I wouldn't expect it to be some generational-leap over it. Even the little bit they showed last year looked like it could be found in GT7.
Puzzles me how the graphics in the racing portions of this management sim (well, F1 Manager 22) are better than the graphics in Codemasters games actual F1 racing game. Codies really needs to switch to Unreal Engine
Driving the Super Formula cars in GT7 is just way more fun, anyway. The F1 games are more realistic, but with that comes stiff cars that are hard to turn & spinout way too easy if you drive without traction control. Still, would have been nice to have another sim option in VR on PlayStation.
It's ALL about the games, Phil. That said, his admission comes as a surprise, but it's obvious what they have been trying to do since the One X: Brute force their games with the highest-spec'd hardware just to be able to say "Our 3rd party games offer a few more pixels than on Sony's machine!"
FAIL. Microsoft consoles & hardware hardly push the medium forward. Iterative; not innovative. Let's just roll out the same controllers from the last 2 gen's then call it a day ...
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Re: Poll: Did You Pre-Order a PS5 Pro?
Nope. Waiting for the 6. And in the meantime I have a high-end gaming PC, so just waiting for the 5090.
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5 Pro
@ButterySmooth30FPS Then you can change your name to "ButterySmooth60fps" ๐
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Experiment with 8K, 60fps on PS5 Pro
@RubyCarbuncle 3600 USD at the time (2019). This was after my OLED got burn in and I vowed to never buy the tech again. Ironically, I got an OLED in 2022 and it has been fantastic โ the tech has truly matured and is far more reliable now. Samsung, on the other hand โ I will never buy another one...
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Experiment with 8K, 60fps on PS5 Pro
@MasterChiefWiggum You can keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better about not upgrading your display.
But as a (primarily) PC gamer, the differences are pretty obvious. I pretty frequently switch resolutions to weigh the image quality vs. performance dilemma. And if you can't see the difference between 1080p and 4k, you may need to make an appointment to a optometrist. Heck, even 1440p I can see a difference in that it is slightly softer image. Once you get into the 1728p and 1800p's then it starts getting indistinguishable. (Mind you, I'm speaking only on non-upscaled images.)
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Experiment with 8K, 60fps on PS5 Pro
I had an Samsung 8K TV...until it died at the end of last year. I wouldn't buy one again. For Polyphony, while useless to 99.98% of GT7 owners, it's always cool to see the limits of tech pushed.
Re: Poll: Would You Buy PS5 Pro If It Was Cheaper?
@playstation1995 ๐ฎ Negativity? From playstation95????? Say it ain't so, ps95, Say it ain't so!!!!!! ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ซ๐ญ
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
Disappointing. I'm good with my "fat" PS5. Turning my sights towards the release of the 5090.
Re: Many, Many More Xbox Ports Plotted for PS5, New Speculation Suggests
@IOI Hence why it's also categorized under "Rumours"
Re: Returnal Artbook and Graphic Novel Mark PS5 Game's Third Anniversary
Well, could they makes games off of these comics?
Re: New PS5 Pro Leak Points to Significant Graphics Push from Sony
I'm a Pass, but I've also kind of switched to high-end gaming PC's. But even if I was still PS exclusive, it's possible I wouldn't upgrade, anyway. With the PS4 Pro, you had the major technological bump from 1080p, to 1440p and 4K (upscaled). Also, so many PS4 games that were 30fps or less heavily benefited from the power bump. Not to mention PSVR...
PS5 games already look great (of course, you can always get better), and so many of them are already optimized to run at 60fps (let alone 30), and even 120fps. I don't think I would drop another $500 for the mid-gen upgrade โ I'd prefer to just wait a full generation until PS6. Hopefully this won't hurt Sony financially, as they typically won't start making money on the consoles until a good 2-3 years after they release...
Re: Tekken 8 Boss Says Younger Players Prefer Team-Based Games Because They Can Blame Losses on Others
This explains why Lebron James has so many fans, they mimic his mentality lol
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About the PS5 Pro?
I've moved onto pc gaming last year, but as a Day 1 PS4 Pro and PS5 adopter, this seems to be excessive & unnecessary. There's only 3, maybe 4 more years left in this generation/life cycle, and by that time they will be asking people to jump on PS6? They are treating consoles like cell phones, to be replaced every few years...
Re: Xbox Planning to Release the 'Majority' of Its Exclusives on PS5
Damn, the xbox fanboys are turning over in their graves...
Re: Upgraded PS5 Pro Planning to Be the Best Place to Play GTA 6
Just wished that it released on PC on the same date as the consoles...
Re: SEGA's New Sapporo Studio Contributing to AAA Titles Like Crazy Taxi PS5
If no Offspring and Bad Religion, I can't do it. Those songs were integral to the original experience.
Re: Best 4K TVs for PS5 in 2024
@themightyant Agree 100%! It actually really bothers me that they still put out what I consider to be misinformation about burn-in. You & I were basically in the same exact scenarios, but I had a B6 with burn-in, and I went with the 8K Q900R. But as I said, that sammy died on me a month ago, and I even tried a used One Connect Box from eBay, and then new OEM parts (PBC board and power supply board) for the One Connect โ neither worked. Authorized repair shop wanted $1100, and I said screw it, I am officially done with Samsung. That TV was supposed to be my "forever" TV, or more like my 10-year-ish TV, but not even close. (less than 3.5 years)๐I bought it after the B6 got burn-in, and my first 2 calls for a free replacement were denied. A couple weeks later i said What the heck, I'll try again, and this time they fixed my B6 for free. So, LG kind of made good with me on that.
I will say though, I do believe burn-in prevention has improved greatly since the early OLED's, and the tech itself has matured. Also, I've learned from my own usage experiences of the past (even though I did nothing egregious or "abusive" the 1st time around). I never wanted to go back to having to "babysit" a TV and handling it with kid gloves again, which was why I denied OLED for many years. But that has totally not been the case with my C1. My B6 got burn-in 20 months into ownership, and it was severe. But I've had my C1 for 22-23 months now, I use it as my PS5 & PC display, and not even a hint of even image retention, let alone burn-in.๐ค
Anyways, I'm long-winded again. I hope your Q90R keeps kickin' butt for many years to comeโ๐ช
Re: Best 4K TVs for PS5 in 2024
@Titntin ๐ปFair! Yeah to be honest, I rarely have to get into the WebOS, since it's primarily just a PC monitor, unless switch inputs and power on the PS5 But yes it is pretty clunky, and I can do without the stupid gyro pointer.
I bet the A95L would be amazing. I owned the X95J (2022) briefly, and really liked it alot. This was during my "OLED burn-in, never again" phase when I refused to consider another one. It got sufficiently bright in my upstairs loft, which gets sun-drenched. I returned it, though, in favor of the C1 โ it just felt like I was missing the "punch" that an OLED and its deep blacks were giving me. Once I put on Returnal, I could see the difference in dark areas. That said, it was my favorite QLED, by far๐ P.S., one thing I've learned about regarding all the "nits" talk is, a TV could output twice as many nits as another comparable TV, but that doesn't mean it will get twice as bright โ at least your eyes won't be able to perceive it that way. So definitely a couple hundreds nits here or there won't be so noticeable. I'd focus more on the picture quality.
And, you know how it goes โ You can never get everything in a TV set๐ (unless money is no object)
Congrats on that sound system!!! I need to chill as well, I've spent pretty stupid money on a PC build & simracing equipment in the last 4 months๐
Re: Best 4K TVs for PS5 in 2024
@Titntin I agree. I tend to get my buying advice from channels like Vincent at HDTVTest, AVForums, Digital Trends, and rtings. (I'm kind of Meh on rtings, as they ignored many of our complaints of horrendous blooming on their QLED's and refused to re-test & update their reviews). But those are good starting points, to me, when I begin my TV search...
RE: LG autodimming, it is certainly annoying. I use it as my PC gaming & PS5 monitor as well. But I don't think I would write it off as a good tv buy just because of it. It never kicks in during any kind of gaming, just on occasional web browsing or while working on documents. And as you alluded to, there is a workaround, albeit one that could void your warranty, but that's only a year-long anyway. If I had to guess, the original OLED's (like my B6) were prone to horrible burn-in, so this aggressive autodimming is LG's way of (over)correcting to prevent or slow down burn-in. OLED is certainly not a risk-free technology, I don't care how many people are claiming burn-in is not a concern...
Re: Best 4K TVs for PS5 in 2024
Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (PS5) - Bloated, Undercooked, and Outdated All at Once
And yet this thing somehow still sells in ridiculous numbers...which was a large reason behind Sony fighting over that outrageously stupid ABK deal.๐
Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Remaster Seems to Be Real
@Mikey856 lol. Of course you would, you lemming. Affording it isn't an issue โ I'm a high-end PC gamer โ it's the principle. And, on sale, for 50???๐คฃ Apparently, you wouldn't do very well at running a business, either, you schmuck๐คฃ
Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Remaster Seems to Be Real
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Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Remaster Seems to Be Real
There's nothing here to remaster.๐คทโโ๏ธIt's already on the same-gen graphics engine as the PS5 TLOU remake. All this game needs is a 4K rez bump, and that of course, should come for FREE.
Re: Sony Partners with Adidas for an Awesome Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Collection
Should have stuck with Nikes/Jordans.
Re: Xbox Poised to Borrow from PS5's DualSense Controller
Xbox, innovating nothing this generation.
(and I am a PC guy)
Re: EA Sports WRC Takes Rallying 'Next-Gen' on PS5 This November
Just in time for my birthday I'll be grabbing it for PC, but this is no doubt a Day Zero purchase.
Re: Armored Core 6: Fires of Rubicon (PS5) - Great Mecha Action at Times Feels Stunted
@GamingFan4Lyf know how people refer to GameSpot as "8spot"? Well here we got Push7
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on PlayStation Portal?
What significant masses of people asked for this, or asked for streaming gaming to begin with? These companies need to give it up.
Re: PlayStation Reveals New Official Headphones and Earbuds, Pulse Elite and Pulse Explore
Looking for a good set of earbuds for PC gaming โ maybe the Pulse, perhaps๐ค
Re: The Last of Us Composer Gustavo Santaolalla May Have Teased a New Version of Part 2
The only thing more I want from this game is a 4k res bump...for free.
And a slight change to the storyline๐
Re: EA Sports PGA Tour Will Now Swing More Smoothly at 60fps on PS5
This would have been nice at release โ I've already platinum'd the game, and have no reason to go back to it right now๐ญ
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Is Out for PS5 on 24th October
@Triumph741 A 'remake' would be awesome. But I would have been fine with a simple remaster of MGS1 here, but all they did was port it๐คฆโโ๏ธ
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Is Out for PS5 on 24th October
@Petto that Duckstation version you posted, I would take that. That is clean and easy on the eyes. This port looks bad.
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Is Out for PS5 on 24th October
@Petto it looks terrible. Zero difference between it and my PS3 back-compat version๐Being that I mostly care for MGS1, this is a hard pass for me. When will we get a true remaster of this classic?
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Is Out for PS5 on 24th October
Will MGS1 be remastered? I've been playing it on PS3 back-compat, and it is really hard on the eyes with all of the pixelation, etc๐ต
Re: F1 23 (PS5) - A FIFA Level Experience for F1 Fans
@47AlphaTango "There are microtransactions galore, ยฃ3 for a pair of digital trainers, really?"
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the microtransactions in this game only for aesthetic purchases (gear, clothes, liveries, etc.)?๐ค
I am as anti-microtransactions as the next guy, but as long as game developers restrict it to aesthetic upgrades only, and keep it out of player skill upgrades & pay-to-win schemes, then I feel that is a fair compromise ...
Re: Madden NFL 24 Makes Players More Anatomically Accurate on PS5, Revives Superstar Mode
@Topov81 Current contract runs through 2025 (but can be renewed). 2K has an agreement to make only "non-simulation" (arcade) NFL games --- one would argue that Madden is an arcade, non-simulation NFL game...๐
Re: Madden NFL 24 Makes Players More Anatomically Accurate on PS5, Revives Superstar Mode
Looks the same, the "new anatomically accurate player skeletons" make no difference. The only difference I see is the shoulder pads move more like equipment rather than just an extension of their body. The only thing I liked what I saw was some players have their undershirts untucked under their jerseys โ I nice realistic touch. But the player models still bend weirdly at the knees, and also, who in the NFL is still wearing knee pads?????? Heads/helmets are also still too small in relation to the rest of their body.
Doubt much of anything else has changed either, as usual. Another pass.
Re: Sony: Cloud Gaming Is an Amazing Business Model, But There Are Big Challenges
Why do these big companies think that we need โ or want โ this? I love gaming as much as the next person...but I can actually wait until I get home to play my games on my big screen where I am able to give my full attention towards getting immersed into the game.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for June 2023 Announced
I don't care for current day basketball. But as an extreme Michael Jordan & 90's Bulls fan, NBA2k23 is a dream come true. I can make the game look & play like it did back when. The sandbox here is a dream come true for fans of that era...or other eras of the NBA.
Re: Jodie Comer, David Harbour Star in PS5 Alone in the Dark Reboot This Halloween
Villanelle, FTW!
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Patch 1.34 All About New Cars, Tuning, and Engines
...I am speaking in terms of content, and its place in the marketplace in simulation e-sports as the racing game to play (on consoles).
Graphics-wise, of course it will be ahead of GT7. But I wouldn't expect it to be some generational-leap over it. Even the little bit they showed last year looked like it could be found in GT7.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Patch 1.34 All About New Cars, Tuning, and Engines
Forza Motorsport 8 will be dead-on-arrival when it finally launches โ it will be so far behind GT7 ...
Re: F1 Manager 2023 Will Let You Rewrite the Season in a More Realistic Sim on PS5, PS4
Puzzles me how the graphics in the racing portions of this management sim (well, F1 Manager 22) are better than the graphics in Codemasters games actual F1 racing game. Codies really needs to switch to Unreal Engine
Re: Rumour: WRC 23, Developed by Codemasters, Is Just Around the Hairpin Bend on PS5
Can't wait. Especially since F1 23 seems like more copy-&-paste from previous years. I'm sure Codies has made good advancements since Dirt Rally 2.
Re: After Transformative Gran Turismo 7 Update, F1 23 Will Not Support PSVR2
Driving the Super Formula cars in GT7 is just way more fun, anyway. The F1 games are more realistic, but with that comes stiff cars that are hard to turn & spinout way too easy if you drive without traction control. Still, would have been nice to have another sim option in VR on PlayStation.
Re: F1 23 Gameplay Flaunts Revamped Physics, Improved Handling, Red Flags, More
@LifeGirl Go play Wreckfest
Re: A Plague Tale: Requiem Treated to 60fps Mode in New PS5 Patch
Thanks for the heads-up, might just have to buy this game now.
Re: Xbox Boss Admits Microsoft Can't 'Outconsole' PS5
Ya just hate to see it.
It's ALL about the games, Phil. That said, his admission comes as a surprise, but it's obvious what they have been trying to do since the One X: Brute force their games with the highest-spec'd hardware just to be able to say "Our 3rd party games offer a few more pixels than on Sony's machine!"
FAIL. Microsoft consoles & hardware hardly push the medium forward. Iterative; not innovative. Let's just roll out the same controllers from the last 2 gen's then call it a day ...
Re: EA Sports F1 23 Brings Back Dramatic Story Mode Braking Point on PS5, PS4
@bozz typical nonsensical dog-whistling