Computing is going towards defining everything in code. Game platforms are on that trajectory as well. The game platforms devs are picking are UE or Unity etc. The differences between Sony and Microsoft and PC have never been smaller.
This is especially true for game developers that aren’t (1) pushing boundaries in terms of hardware power both small (not trying to run on a Raspberry Pi or Playdate) and large (not trying to get FF16 on Switch or pushing AAA path traced everything graphics) and aren’t interested in (2) special user interactions (the “standard” controller is fine no DDR pads or Guitar Hero gear or the Playdate crank).
@Jacko11 I think the idea that all legitimate people who want these products need to be online to buy them within hours of the preorder going live is incredibly inflexible and wrong.
I don’t understand why this is so difficult for Sony. Put more digital defenses in to stop scalping or up your inventory. Protect your customers.
If the point of journalism is to inform or help people make better choices, this isn’t working.
People don’t read the full article so when your headline basically says “Sony lied to you” and then the article text is weirdly nuanced yeah, you’ve set people’s expectations all wrong. And what for? Engagement? Clicks? Is this fun? Meaningful? I just don’t understand.
I think choosing to recreate the show as a game is not a good play. You will never beat the show. Gotta try something else. Make the game as a prequel or maybe play in the world as a side character.
Survival stealth action game trying to escape the Fire Nation advances.
Farming game set in Sukki’s hometown.
Trading card game set in Bah Song See.
tactical game battling — where you are the fire nation!
They would get more value out of putting their characters (Little Big Planet Avatar puppets?) in other games than making this.
I’m following it but not planning to buy anytime soon. I’m much more interested in Metaphor which is being made by the P3-5 Director, Character designer, and composer.
Also, this is being said here in different ways. Gamers have too many choices and combined with inflation this is bad news for new game makers.
I can’t imagine having to launch a new game in 2023 and compete with both free-to-play, Gamepass for $10-15, and all the games that have been made over the past 10 years. Make a building game better than Minecraft or cheaper! Make a farm game better than Stardew Valley or cheaper! And you have AAA award winning games going half price after a month. Sure Plague Tale launches at $60 but it’s $30 now. It’s crazy.
Game was gorgeous but then I played the demo. I found traversal too slow and clunky and I genuinely didn’t enjoy the interaction model. I actually got lost in the demo and I really didn’t enjoy biking. I was really sad when it was over because I think they had some really good ideas here and it just needed more polish.
@Loftimus. That’s such a hater comment. There are so many more LGBT people than your made-up numbers suggest. And don’t make up rules for what people can enjoy. That’s so 1950.
I’m looking forward to this and I like supporting indies! It’s fine with me if the game has kink but it just needs to not be hateful (eg bodyshaming, anti queer) or creepy (eg age and consent issues).
The next games in this space I want to play are Trails into Reverie, this game, Tokyo Xanadu, and Metaphor. Maybe Xenoblade Chronicles.
@turntSNACO From Persona Central “For those who have enjoyed the main game, an additional downloadable content episode will be released! This DLC introduces a highly anticipated character available exclusively in the DLC. Not only will players experience a new story, but they can also enjoy thrilling battles with new rules!”
I’m guessing their highly anticipated character is someone from a Persona game, probably from the P5 universe. I would hope it would be Kasumi. But who knows? If they are going to keep building on P5 it gets increasingly weird to ignore her storyline.
I think Sony’s show was a C+ and Microsoft got a B or B+. Neither were stellar but there were more games in the Xbox showcase I wanted to see more of. Most weren’t exclusives.
@rachetmarvel i have a friend who was suicidal and even just watching me play p3 was upsetting to them. I get that’s not everyone, but my friend would like to play p3 and doesn’t feel like the current version will work specifically because of that regular animation. In P5 you mostly can avoid using guns if you choose.
I hope P3RE tones down the gun violence — I mean “evoker” violence. Either way, I will probably buy it.
On P5T, I am frustrated and not really interested. Atlus, just because I love P5R — a turn based RPG — doesn’t mean I also want dancing, fighting, musuo/hack-and-slash, and now tactical games and I think it’s bizarre to drag the characters across so many genres (though I get it from a financial perspective). But — dang it — can I just get P6 or another turn based P5? Maybe send my phantom thieves to college? … And where is Kasumi?!
I want P6 but with so much success and some of their staff having left they are probably trying to figure out what the next jump is for P6 and are keeping themselves busy with more obvious options.
Oh and I very much appreciate the bad spinoff idea comments and that could easily be an separate article/comment thread.
I think it would be challenging to beat Horizon BS. But we’ll see! (And for graphics of the year? So far it seems like Cyberpunk RT has that title)
Spiderman 2 looked amazing. I don’t know if I want it, but the graphics even in the livestream were imo more faster, more fluid, and higher quality than MM.
@Sequel i think Foamstars could be fun. In some sense I think some of the design pushes where I think Splatoon 4 will go — more interactivity in the stages, using foam and water to change the level.
My concern is that it looks like a free to play title and it looks kinda generic. I don’t have confidence that it will be special enough to warrant my limited attention/free time. If I had tons of free time and no money I would be more interested.
It was fine but won’t drive conversations. I am most interested in colorful single player games. My highlights were Teardown, Sword of the Sea, Neva, and Revenant Hill. So a very tiny % of the show.
I really liked Spiderman and MM… this one leaned more dire and I found that depressing.
I think it’s unlikely we get P6 for another year or two. P5 is hard to top and Katsura Hashino is not directing. P6 is going to be different.
I expect more P5 and remakes for a while. Maybe a teaser this year and then a concert announcement, more merch announcements, and some cameo dlcs in other games.
I think if they want to do a pro, fine. But what feature set is new? This is the first year it seems the 2020 consoles are finally getting first-class games made for what they can do without being hampered by the 2010 systems.
I recommend playing Cold Steel 1 and 2. Then if you are hooked consider Sky else proceed to 3 and 4 knowing you will miss even more references but will still have an enjoyable time.
ToCS 1 and 2. Sky 1 and 2. ToCS 3 and 4. Zero, Azure, Reverie. Repeat (jk).
Exception if you have a Steam Deck or are big into pc gaming then maybe try Sky first. 🤷♂️
The only thing I can think of — and no one is going to like this — is to just not make the sequel. Make the multiplayer game and make other games. You can’t fix this offscreen or AI the problem away.
Dang it! There are so many new interesting games. Too many new interesting games?! Guys I am deep in Witcher 3 now and Tears of the Kingdom just shipped. What am I supposed to do!?
I want Oxenfree, Dorgodone, Dead Space, Plague Tale 2, Signalis, Tchia, Chained Echoes, Cassette Beasts, Teenage Exocolonist, Dredge, etc…
I can’t bring myself to buy games that just I can’t play for months until I get to them. I need time travel. Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!
So pretty. I wish publishers didn’t decide based on preorders whether games were successful. I want this game and yet I am booked with games to play and I try not to just buy games to wait a year to play them.
The gameplay is the DLC was better than HFW. That was enough for me. 9/10. And then the graphics! Amazing!
I think the writers really need a plan for Sylens. He stole all the scenes. I don’t know how they can replace him. Or do without him. I think the reason HZD story was so good was the Aloy-Sylens relationship. HFW didn’t do that as well.
The vast majority people don’t care about Aloy’s sexuality. But some percentage of anti-gay activists do and they are the ones doing the reviewing bombing. I think it says more about them and about how the internet gives power to small fringe groups to harass others. Everything is Gamergate. https://deadspin.com/the-future-of-the-culture-wars-is-here-and-its-gamerga-1646145844
You don’t even have to make Aloy go down that path.
Disappointed. Well, not every month can be amazing. I am playing through Sackboy Ps5 with kids and hoping for more indie titles. Those have generally been my favorite PS+ options.
It seems pretty clear to me that there are already too many games to be able to raise prices much. Many games (except Nintendo) are 20-50% off within a couple of months of launch. There are constantly huge sales of hundreds or thousands of games. Epic, Sony and others give you free games each week/month. The phrase “backlog” has real meaning for a lot of gamers. I think the market has room to grow but for the individual supply outstrips demand.
So… yeah sure publishers can charge … some “insane” amount like $120 for an amazing game at launch just like they already offer $300 collector editions with knick-knacks, but the baseline price would drop to $50-60 within a few weeks and most people would pick it up for far less.
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Re: Despite Being on PS Plus Extra, Sea of Stars Tops 100k Sales in One Day
Going to buy. Drowning in great games this year.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Producer Reckons One Gaming Platform Would Be Better for Everyone
Being provocative: Do you mean Unreal Engine?
Computing is going towards defining everything in code. Game platforms are on that trajectory as well. The game platforms devs are picking are UE or Unity etc. The differences between Sony and Microsoft and PC have never been smaller.
This is especially true for game developers that aren’t (1) pushing boundaries in terms of hardware power both small (not trying to run on a Raspberry Pi or Playdate) and large (not trying to get FF16 on Switch or pushing AAA path traced everything graphics) and aren’t interested in (2) special user interactions (the “standard” controller is fine no DDR pads or Guitar Hero gear or the Playdate crank).
Re: The Fantasy 6 Remake Talk Has Started Again
Terra-ble. Excellent pun, please no remake.
Re: Yes, All Those Awesome Marvel's Spider-Man 2 PS5 Accessories Are Getting Scalped
@Jacko11 I think the idea that all legitimate people who want these products need to be online to buy them within hours of the preorder going live is incredibly inflexible and wrong.
I don’t understand why this is so difficult for Sony. Put more digital defenses in to stop scalping or up your inventory. Protect your customers.
Re: Anticipated RPG Sea of Stars Goes Gold Ahead of PS Plus Extra Launch Next Month
What’s a Twitter account?
Re: Told You So! Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Really Wouldn't Have Worked on PS4
This was never a surprise or scandal except to people who were misled by the gaming press or some weird friend group.
But isn’t it FuN to believe and promote conspiracy theories? Truth is soooo boring. Doesn’t get clicks.
Re: PS5's Remote Play Portable Appears to Leak Online
I’m getting a Steam Deck. I keep reading articles about this thing to see when it makes sense. Still doesn’t
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart PC Doesn't Actually Need an SSD
If the point of journalism is to inform or help people make better choices, this isn’t working.
People don’t read the full article so when your headline basically says “Sony lied to you” and then the article text is weirdly nuanced yeah, you’ve set people’s expectations all wrong. And what for? Engagement? Clicks? Is this fun? Meaningful? I just don’t understand.
Re: Oxenfree II: Lost Signals (PS5) - Solid Sequel Feels Finely Tuned
7 second load screens on PS5? Isn’t the game smaller than the system RAM? I wonder what’s causing the performance issues.
Re: SEGA Survey Suggests Persona 3 Reload to Retail for $69.99
Sounds like I will wait until a significant discount. I just finished P3P.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for July 2023?
Excited about Alan Wake and Extinction.
Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender: Quest for Balance Bends the Elements on PS5, PS4 in 2023
I think choosing to recreate the show as a game is not a good play. You will never beat the show. Gotta try something else. Make the game as a prequel or maybe play in the world as a side character.
They would get more value out of putting their characters (Little Big Planet Avatar puppets?) in other games than making this.
So many choices! Not this one.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Is Overheating and Crashing PS5 Consoles Completely
Playstation does what Ninten-don’t.
Just kidding I love my PS5, but seriously Sony, if this is true, this is a you problem. Brace yourself for an incoming stability improvements patch!
Re: Viral Hit Placid Plastic Duck Simulator Brings Sony's Tech Demo Full Circle on PS5, PS4
Their water is boring so no. I guess it needs the power of the Emotion Engine.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for July 2023 Announced
Yay! I want Alan Wake and Endling.
Re: Morgana Gives Enemies of the Phantom Thieves Paws in Fresh Persona 5 Tactica Trailer
I’m following it but not planning to buy anytime soon. I’m much more interested in Metaphor which is being made by the P3-5 Director, Character designer, and composer.
Re: Over Half of Season Dev Scavengers Studio Laid Off
Also, this is being said here in different ways. Gamers have too many choices and combined with inflation this is bad news for new game makers.
I can’t imagine having to launch a new game in 2023 and compete with both free-to-play, Gamepass for $10-15, and all the games that have been made over the past 10 years. Make a building game better than Minecraft or cheaper! Make a farm game better than Stardew Valley or cheaper! And you have AAA award winning games going half price after a month. Sure Plague Tale launches at $60 but it’s $30 now. It’s crazy.
Re: Over Half of Season Dev Scavengers Studio Laid Off
Game was gorgeous but then I played the demo. I found traversal too slow and clunky and I genuinely didn’t enjoy the interaction model. I actually got lost in the demo and I really didn’t enjoy biking. I was really sad when it was over because I think they had some really good ideas here and it just needed more polish.
@Loftimus. That’s such a hater comment. There are so many more LGBT people than your made-up numbers suggest. And don’t make up rules for what people can enjoy. That’s so 1950.
Re: Square Enix Devs Pester Director Yoshinori Kitase About Remaking Final Fantasy 6 Constantly
Ew, no please don’t. Just make new games. If Square wants to make an uber Pixel Remaster.. sure though it’s fine as-is (Maybe fix the judder issues?).
Re: Preview: Eternights Puts Some Indie in Your Persona
I’m looking forward to this and I like supporting indies! It’s fine with me if the game has kink but it just needs to not be hateful (eg bodyshaming, anti queer) or creepy (eg age and consent issues).
The next games in this space I want to play are Trails into Reverie, this game, Tokyo Xanadu, and Metaphor. Maybe Xenoblade Chronicles.
Re: There's Growing Concern Over Persona Dev's Metaphor: ReFantazio Being an Xbox Exclusive
I feel like this article is a great example of the press influencing the populace and failing to own its role in that.
1. Ask Atlus directly.
2. Write an empathetic rant as an oped. “Atlus continues yanking around its fans.”
3. Do nothing. Write about something else.
All better options imo.
Re: Persona 3 Reload, Persona 5 Tactica Finally Confirmed for PS5, PS4 After Xbox Embargo Lifts
@Sil_Am maybe, but I would be very hesitant to use Twitter as a good source of data. It was always small and weird and now it’s smaller and weirder.
Re: Sorry, But Games Are Probably Going to Take Longer Than Ever to Make on PS5
And I continue to seek out games that take 4-20 hours to beat. Wholesome Direct is my favorite.
Re: Persona 5 Tactica Is Launching This Year, But No Mention of PS5, PS4 Yet
@turntSNACO shhh! Don’t jinx it! (Totally going to be Akechi or a tie-in to a different Atlus property)
Re: Persona 3 Reload Won't Include FES or Portable Content, No Female Protagonist
I’m mostly excited for Metaphor. I just finished playing P3P and this sounds like that but less content. Not that interested in Tactica. Hmm.
Re: Persona 5 Tactica Is Launching This Year, But No Mention of PS5, PS4 Yet
@turntSNACO From Persona Central “For those who have enjoyed the main game, an additional downloadable content episode will be released! This DLC introduces a highly anticipated character available exclusively in the DLC. Not only will players experience a new story, but they can also enjoy thrilling battles with new rules!”
I’m guessing their highly anticipated character is someone from a Persona game, probably from the P5 universe. I would hope it would be Kasumi. But who knows? If they are going to keep building on P5 it gets increasingly weird to ignore her storyline.
Re: Reaction: Solid Xbox Showcase Should Give Sony Some Incentive to Stop Being So Damn Cloak and Daggers About PS5, PS4
I think Sony’s show was a C+ and Microsoft got a B or B+. Neither were stellar but there were more games in the Xbox showcase I wanted to see more of. Most weren’t exclusives.
Re: Persona Dev's Project Re Fantasy Finally Revealed as a Ridiculous Looking Turn-Based RPG
Love the **texture** everywhere. I really want to move away from just minimalist UIs.
I hope this game is more P5 than SMT. Looks amazing. Moved right to the top of my watchlist.
Re: Persona 5 Tactica Launches 17th November, Persona 3 Reload Early 2024
@rachetmarvel i have a friend who was suicidal and even just watching me play p3 was upsetting to them. I get that’s not everyone, but my friend would like to play p3 and doesn’t feel like the current version will work specifically because of that regular animation. In P5 you mostly can avoid using guns if you choose.
Re: Persona 5 Tactica Launches 17th November, Persona 3 Reload Early 2024
I hope P3RE tones down the gun violence — I mean “evoker” violence. Either way, I will probably buy it.
On P5T, I am frustrated and not really interested. Atlus, just because I love P5R — a turn based RPG — doesn’t mean I also want dancing, fighting, musuo/hack-and-slash, and now tactical games and I think it’s bizarre to drag the characters across so many genres (though I get it from a financial perspective). But — dang it — can I just get P6 or another turn based P5? Maybe send my phantom thieves to college? … And where is Kasumi?!
Re: Rumour: A New Persona 5 Game Announcement Is Imminent
Put the p5 crew in uni and I am all for it.
I want P6 but with so much success and some of their staff having left they are probably trying to figure out what the next jump is for P6 and are keeping themselves busy with more obvious options.
Oh and I very much appreciate the bad spinoff idea comments and that could easily be an separate article/comment thread.
Re: PS5 Showpiece Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Jumps to the PC Dimension in July
Good for the dev.
Very curious to see hardware reqs — especially SSD and RAM. You either have to store more, load faster, or load less, right?
Re: Alan Wake 2 Thinks It'll Beat Spider-Man to PS5's Best Graphics of 2023 Crown
I think it would be challenging to beat Horizon BS. But we’ll see! (And for graphics of the year? So far it seems like Cyberpunk RT has that title)
Spiderman 2 looked amazing. I don’t know if I want it, but the graphics even in the livestream were imo more faster, more fluid, and higher quality than MM.
I look forward to the DF review of both.
Re: Feature: PlayStation Showcase Biggest Winners and Losers
@Sequel i think Foamstars could be fun. In some sense I think some of the design pushes where I think Splatoon 4 will go — more interactivity in the stages, using foam and water to change the level.
My concern is that it looks like a free to play title and it looks kinda generic. I don’t have confidence that it will be special enough to warrant my limited attention/free time. If I had tons of free time and no money I would be more interested.
Re: Foamstars Is Square Enix's Answer to Splatoon on PS5, PS4
Seems like it a decent idea. Needs a lot more polish to capture my attention.
Bring back Power Stone!
Re: Reaction: Sony Flubs First Proper PS5 Presentation in Over 18 Months
It was fine but won’t drive conversations. I am most interested in colorful single player games. My highlights were Teardown, Sword of the Sea, Neva, and Revenant Hill. So a very tiny % of the show.
I really liked Spiderman and MM… this one leaned more dire and I found that depressing.
Re: Rumour: Persona 6 Could Be a Timed PS5 Exclusive in 2024
I think it’s unlikely we get P6 for another year or two. P5 is hard to top and Katsura Hashino is not directing. P6 is going to be different.
I expect more P5 and remakes for a while. Maybe a teaser this year and then a concert announcement, more merch announcements, and some cameo dlcs in other games.
Re: GTA 6 Publisher Is Anticipating a PS5 Pro
I think if they want to do a pro, fine. But what feature set is new? This is the first year it seems the 2020 consoles are finally getting first-class games made for what they can do without being hampered by the 2010 systems.
Re: Best Trails Games Ranked: Which Trails Games to Play and Where to Start
I recommend playing Cold Steel 1 and 2. Then if you are hooked consider Sky else proceed to 3 and 4 knowing you will miss even more references but will still have an enjoyable time.
ToCS 1 and 2. Sky 1 and 2. ToCS 3 and 4. Zero, Azure, Reverie. Repeat (jk).
Exception if you have a Steam Deck or are big into pc gaming then maybe try Sky first. 🤷♂️
Re: Horizon's Writers Haven't Thought About Series without Lance Reddick
The only thing I can think of — and no one is going to like this — is to just not make the sequel. Make the multiplayer game and make other games. You can’t fix this offscreen or AI the problem away.
Re: 900+ PS5, PS4 Games on Offer in New Bumper PS Store Sale
Dang it! There are so many new interesting games. Too many new interesting games?! Guys I am deep in Witcher 3 now and Tears of the Kingdom just shipped. What am I supposed to do!?
I want Oxenfree, Dorgodone, Dead Space, Plague Tale 2, Signalis, Tchia, Chained Echoes, Cassette Beasts, Teenage Exocolonist, Dredge, etc…
I can’t bring myself to buy games that just I can’t play for months until I get to them. I need time travel. Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!
Re: The Gorgeous Watercolour Indie Title Dordogne Hits PS5, PS4 Next Month
So pretty. I wish publishers didn’t decide based on preorders whether games were successful. I want this game and yet I am booked with games to play and I try not to just buy games to wait a year to play them.
Re: Concrete Genie Developer PixelOpus Is Shutting Down
Concrete Genie was great. One of my top PS+ games. I was looking forward to their next thing.
Re: PS5 Pro Is '100%' Happening, Says Reliable Report
Not convinced. I believe their hardware team is designing one but that’s not the same as launching one.
Re: Layers of Fear Is Shaping Up to Be One of PS5's Best Looking Games to Date
@Avalanchee https://media1.giphy.com/media/DbSZni6xAW2Ws/giphy.gif
Re: Soapbox: I No Longer Think Subscriptions Like PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass Are the Future of Gaming
I can imagine genre or publisher specific subscriptions working. Eg I think I would pay for a Wholesome Games subscription.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Horizon Forbidden West: Burning Shores?
The gameplay is the DLC was better than HFW. That was enough for me. 9/10. And then the graphics! Amazing!
I think the writers really need a plan for Sylens. He stole all the scenes. I don’t know how they can replace him. Or do without him. I think the reason HZD story was so good was the Aloy-Sylens relationship. HFW didn’t do that as well.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Horizon Forbidden West: Burning Shores?
The vast majority people don’t care about Aloy’s sexuality. But some percentage of anti-gay activists do and they are the ones doing the reviewing bombing. I think it says more about them and about how the internet gives power to small fringe groups to harass others. Everything is Gamergate. https://deadspin.com/the-future-of-the-culture-wars-is-here-and-its-gamerga-1646145844
You don’t even have to make Aloy go down that path.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2023 Leaked Early
Disappointed. Well, not every month can be amazing. I am playing through Sackboy Ps5 with kids and hoping for more indie titles. Those have generally been my favorite PS+ options.
Re: Can You Put a Price on a Quality RPG? Yes, and It's Rising All the Time
It seems pretty clear to me that there are already too many games to be able to raise prices much. Many games (except Nintendo) are 20-50% off within a couple of months of launch. There are constantly huge sales of hundreds or thousands of games. Epic, Sony and others give you free games each week/month. The phrase “backlog” has real meaning for a lot of gamers. I think the market has room to grow but for the individual supply outstrips demand.
So… yeah sure publishers can charge … some “insane” amount like $120 for an amazing game at launch just like they already offer $300 collector editions with knick-knacks, but the baseline price would drop to $50-60 within a few weeks and most people would pick it up for far less.