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Alt title “most PushSquare poll respondants want 60fps on PS5”.

Let’s not pretend that people visiting this site are representative of the entire cross section of Playstation users. Plus, even here, most people think 60fps is about graphics alone so to them they would rather have dialed back graphics than 60fps. But that’s not always the deal. It could be about physics, level design, or the underlying engine processes (eg UE5). It would be good to help the readership understand that.

Poll didn’t have the option I wanted. I am fine with obviously optimized, upscaled, clearly next gen titles running at 30-40fps — especially if it’s not an action/twitchy game.

I want 60fps in almost all games and I think that’s a reasonable standard. 60fps beats 4k or slightly better fidelity.

@ShogunRok thank you for that very detailed, thoughtful answer. I don’t have the dlc. Definitely going to have to buy this again for Steam or Switch. But only after P3P which I have been wanting to play for years.

It wouldn’t surprise me if performance patches come out over the next few months so it’s hard to get worked up about this. Makes me want to upgrade my tv though…

@Darylb88 i mean.. not everyone has those platforms? I really enjoyed playing P5R on my OLED. The art just pops. If there was a save transfer I would get this — the bundled DLC and the 60fps upgrade would be worth it for me especially on sale. But Steam seems my future for P5 especially since save games in Steam are pretty much forever.

@ShogunRok Things I am wondering (1) it sounds like they also added a feature where different costumes trigger different battle music. (2) differences between platforms

This headline could be less clickbait focused:

New title using language from the article: “Only BC for Persona 3 and 4, but “in truth, this could well be a non-issue.”

@Flaming_Kaiser let me try again: The next Playstation will likely not have PS4 BC so to keep my save I have to keep and maintain a PS4/5 to be able to use my save file. 20 years from now whatever pc I own will run Steam and the save game files will just work.

I am so excited. Probably getting the Steam or Switch versions. The thing I really wanted from Atlus is a cloud-based save transfer system. I have 300 hours of P5R locked on Playstation and I worry that will go away once backwards compat is gone. That won’t be an issue on Steam. Switch has the same problem as Playstation but it’s portable. Maybe I need a Steam Deck. Sigh.

For people not familiar with child development, Astro is a difficult game for this age range. It requires a lot of hand-eye coordination, patience, and focus. So, she did really good.

@GreatAuk lol I know you FEEL that way but their sales dept thinks otherwise.

Again, most people on this site aren’t the audience for the remaster so it isn’t surprising most aren’t interested. It’s for their future players, their own satisfaction, etc.

Eh. It’s an interesting strategy. I think most of the concern under the surface here is that Sony would be giving something up to do this. That it would take time and attention away from making something else and most people here are fine with the game as-is. and would prefer all attention on making something new.

(1) I think Twitter comments from random people should generally be ignored (2) I think it’s awesome for game devs to educate gamers on their process and support each other.

Could be amazing. It looks polished and so I remain cautiously hopeful.

Yay! Toem looks great!

This looks like a good product, but it’s really otherworldly to see Sony dabbling with expensive devices like VR and uber controllers while also jacking up the price of the base system. 2022 Sony messaging is so opposite of the PS4 messaging which was making an affordable system that was great at playing games for everyone.

Have it on Ps4. More interested in a portable version for a second purchase. I would replay it more.

I mean if by NFT they mean not that but PS5 themes… then I support NFTs. Lol.

Well, they made physical a worse experience. It’s like digital except you also have to put the disk in whenever you want to play and the disk drive makes extra noise sporadically. The prices for most games are similar. I would rather pay $5 more and increase the likelihood that I will play the game then it just sitting on a shelf. Either way — digital or not — I still have to install the day 1 patch and then the new new new update that fixes the gamebreaking bugs.

Awesome! It’s nice to see things headed in a good direction.

I am in the middle. I think a small upgrade fee is fine BUT they better offer the option to move your save data. These games take forever — blessing and curse — and having sunk 300 hours with no way to move save data is not great. And I am currently betting that isn’t a feature they are supporting.

Unclear what it offers, but I am more likely to pick up the Steam/Deck or Switch version. Portable Persona is a feature I want most. That said, I love P5R so maybe? I haven’t bought all the DLC ($20) yet, so waiting to see what the new version offers…

I wouldn’t read too much into this site. Maybe try emailing Atlus West for questions?

(1) Also, the main thing I want for P4G is they need to fix the stutter at the beginning of all out attacks. I have a very decent gaming pc and it doesn’t matter— there is just constant stutter in the current Steam version.

(2) If Atlus wants to make a native PS5 version of P5R that’s great, but I will hope they will make a save data transfer and make the upgrade free or at least cheap.

Nope. I am happy with the free remaster for my PS5. I am glad Naughty Dog is using it as a chance to learn how to work with Ps5 though.

Just want more indies. Use PS+ to support and promote those who need it most. More Bugsnax, Maquette, Concrete Genie.

I want more indies. Support small studios + good value for Sony. I get jealous of all the neat indies on MS Gamepass.

I wonder what they mean by mobile games. I say that being completely aware of where mobile games are and have been for the past decade. I just wonder if they mean something similar to what is or something new.

@ED_209 is it though? Nintendo wants all their DLC and downloadable games validated every few hours on all secondary Switches… it’s a nightmare for my family when we travel.

The biggest challenge for Sony is that it’s going to struggle to communicate the value. Maybe at some point — if they do a good job — people will think of it as “there is something there for everyone and there is plenty” but MS has it easier because their GamePass system leans into the movie-going no-spoilers cultural phenomena of gaming by offering their products on day one. That’s just easier to communicate: sign up and get day one access to (insert list of studios). Sony’s version means people have to look at the full list to see if there is more than 1-2 games on it they want to play and do math to figure out if it’s cheaper to just buy those.

I hope this is the last year of first party cross gen. I don’t think having a 30fps PS4 version and a faster loading shinier 60fps PS5 version is bad. I think the past few years have really hammered home how graphical fidelity is just one part of what can make a great game but it’s not a necessary condition. But i really want to see AAA games pushing the boundaries of the SSD and CPUs. I want to see new level designs and physics and AI and weird concepts that are not achievable (or financially ruinous to do workarounds) on the decade-old weak mobile cpu in the PS4.

Something with color. If it’s brown, gritty, and hack & slash-y or shooting things.. probably not interested. I want something weird.

@Steve30000 how should I play Persona 3?

Generally just want devs to make new games and stories and have backward compatibility available that is legal and affordable.

Ultimately the products they make are their primary form of communication and that’s been going ok. But I agree with the article because (1) it points out simple, obvious ways they could do better and (2) competition is real now. Microsoft is at the top of their game and their comma strategy is light years better.

It’s great to have choices. I am more likely to shell out for PC Game Pass than upgrade my PS+ to a higher tier. It will really depend though on what kinds of games regularly show on PS+. I have been delighted by what is constantly showing up on Gamepass. I had it over the holiday break and played The Gunk, Unpacking, The Wild at Heart, Forza, Psychonauts, Halo, Age of Empires, and more… it was awesome. If Sony wants to deliver a similar experience than I am all in.

@Balosi the price points are clear but the value proposition is confusing. Let’s say I already have Death Stranding and Spiderman. What am I getting for paying premium? Sounds mostly like a PS Now rebrand with .. some extra stuff? That I might care about?

Bad marketing. You only get a first impression once. I suspect the premium tiers will converge to something competitive with GamePass but I don’t see it in this announcement. GamePass just has a clear intent: all first party games day one plus other good stuff that they rotate. PS+ Premium is some good Sony content that already exists and PS Now and probably some other stuff sometime?

The coop gameplay was a little rough. It was difficult to always work in tandem to ride the flow streams. But the music, the story, the characters were something else. It was a really special game and I’m glad that I was able to play with my significant other

I pay for both PS+ and Switch Online. Getting 2-3 games per month always feels like a better deal even if/when I don’t like a lot of the games offered it still feels a better deal than getting a couple of bad third party NES or SNES titles once a quarter.

@Th3solution Thanks. I figured there was some risk there. I started with Playstation on the PS5 launch. So many good games.

Pick 3: Donut County, The Wild at Heart, OnRush, Lost Words, Artful Escape, Forgotten City, Solar Ash, Ender Lillies, Shadow of the Colossus, Toem, Roki, The Touryst, The Pathless, Nex Machina, Metro Exodus, Chicory, Hades, Death’s Door, Erica, Kentucky Route Zero, Sakuna, Sackboy, Scott Pilgrim, Sayonara Wild Hearts, Tetris Effect Connected, Doom Eternal, Life is Strange 2

So busy with other games. I really want HFW, but I still need to finish Death Stranding DC, TOCS 3&4, Last of Us 1, and probably Persona 5R again. And then I need to replay HZD at 60fps. Life is tough! It’s great to be a gamer.

Something weird? There are soooo many online games. I find myself mostly drawn to indies and story driven single player games.

I think this is a terrible waste of money. And it’s a lot of money.

@freddquadros I don’t know rates but I think handing out small indies is generally a better path than half of a AAA game with tons of microtransactions. I got the GamePass trial ($1 for 3 months) and I have been in indie heaven. It’s so nice to just try a short game and find out if I like it with no hesitations.

I just want indies.

1. Sony should stay away from NFTs, Blockchain, and Cryptocurrency and other nonsense.
2. Be the champion of indie devs — don’t let Switch and Gamepass and Steam Deck win the indie market. That’s where you get growth and goodwill.
3. Multiplayer and shooters. Have something to compete with Halo.
4. Make fun games that are joyful. More Team Asobo please.
5. You don’t need a Gamepass clone to succeed. It depends what success means.

Played it on GamePass on PC. It’s a very linear title that’s just a touch more than walking simulator in terms of gameplay, but it was delightful and weird. It reminded me a lot of 80s movies like Bill and Ted.

@ED_209 me too. I love short games and indie titles. Wish more https://twitter.com/_wholesomegames were on PS. And I would love Sony to do more to get indie titles in their lineup. Bugsnax was such a win for PS5 day one.