@S1ayeR74 I've liked pretty much all Sony's consoles up to and including the PS4 Pro.
PS5 is just vile - I keep my hidden behind the TV unit which is thankfully tall enough. The Tub o' Lard (its official name) only has the disc drive accessible.
Only other I detested was the PS3 Super Slim with it's cheesy sliding lid though that might have been more to do with it being a cheap and nasty earache with its loud Blu-ray drive and inability to stand up when changing a disc. Sold that on to someone else and bought a 2500 series Slim which is still working quietly to this day!
While PS5 updates are reasonably quick to download and install (using compressed files presumably?) the PS5's total inability to download multiple things at once is still a right royal pain in the rear.
PS4 does it seamlessly, downloading & installing multiple things at once, but the 5 downloads one while all others are 'queued'.
Not fussed. Got a butt-ugly 1200 series disc edition hidden mostly by the TV unit and this is just as butt ugly (maybe even more so, if that's possible?)
@get2sammyb Yes, it does and it does run really well on the Pro too - it's just the ridiculous fan speed that a 'barely disturbing the hardware' game can provoke. Same thing happened with Nickelodeon Brawl. No need for it and it smacks of really badly optimised code.
@IrishNomad @Weebleman That double install still bugs me every time I stick the Diablo cross gen disc into the tub o' lard and it tries to install the PS4 version yet again.
On the subject of auto downloading patches, it's even more annoying because the dopey 5 doesn't have the PS4's download chip, allowing the old stager to download multiple patches in one go. The sluggish 5 seems slower to download PS4 game patches and can only do one patch at once making it impossibly slow as everything else is stuck as 'queued'.
Let's hope that whenever it gets released it's better optimised than Genshin Impact which causes the PS4 Pro's fans to go into overdrive for no apparent reason.
So long Crash & Spyro - we loved having you as our mascots!
"We have now crossed the final regulatory hurdle to close this acquisition, which we believe will benefit players and the gaming industry worldwide."*
*as long as you have an XBox or PC
Also, "Microsoft will sell the cloud streaming rights for Activision Blizzard's games to Ubisoft."
So what happens if MS buys Ubisoft?
@Fyz306903 Yes, a die shrink would be possible - I thought there were already plans for AMD to do so but not heard anything more about it.
When you look at the innards of the different PS5 revisions, there's been massive changes in the circuit board and heat sink sizes as well as as a few other components. The CFI-1216 I have could easily sit in a 30% volume reduced case. I think The Verge did a piece on this shortly after the 1200 series was launched? https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/7/23340577/sony-ps5-new-design-motherboard-less-power-lighter
Towards the end of the article, there's a side-by-side comparison.
Given the way they destroyed Star Wars and the MCU spin-offs, I can't imagine much worse than Disney taking over any sizeable publisher.
They are totally imaginatively bankrupt and even Pixar can't help as they are a mere shadow of their former selves post John Lasseter, no matter what you think of him and his reasons for not being with the company any more.
The original one is as ugly as sin and they've kept with same butt-ugliness with the new one.
While a reduction in size (well, volume) is appreciated, I think the new one actually looks worse than the original (if that's possible). Still, hide it behind the TV unit and problem solved! Now if Sony could just put some PS4 visual sparkle into the barren, dismal OS...
Hoping that the PS6 will be stylish (he says, casting his gaze at the Pro under the TV).
Dev studios didn't want to make them (but their Geordie overlord told them to - or else) and no-one wants to play them. Who could've seen that happening?
So long Ryan and thank you for nearly destroying everything I liked about PlayStation.
Unfortunately, it's not just the studio that closes, but you also end up with a vast amount of experience of making those games so great walking out the door too.
I think most of Evolution ended up at Codemasters in the Codemasters Evo subdivision. After the dreary OnRush, I'm not sure if they didn't get re-distributed throughout the company?
The chances of another DriveClub or Motorstorm seem unlikely at best. Let's hope the Ryan Replacement will think it's a good idea to try and resurrect some of these studios with some of the original staff rather than remastering stuff that no-one wants.
I use the PS4's Store application mainly - still about 1000x better than the web browser. PS5 isn't much better unless you know what you're looking for.
@riceNpea No, I'm saying that a few people on here are saying how Ryan was amazing launching the PS5 as if it was a stand-alone success. Most of its success comes from the PS4 owners 'upgrading' (I use that term sparingly) whereas the PS3/XBox360/Wii era was a lot more complicated and the PS4 had to start from scratch. Layden, House and Tretton laid the foundations for the success of the PS4 (Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot too) and the PS5 is simply carrying on the job based on the previous SCE/SIE leads work, nothing to do with Ryan.
As I said in the main story, someone get on the phone to Shawn Layden, Andrew House or Jack Tretton - there's a job for you!
The PS5 is a success but it's still standing on the shoulders of the PS4. Making a backwards compatible successor to that particular juggernaut was always going to be a success - let's face it, it's not down to the case design or the overflowing raft of exclusives.
Someone get on the phone to Shawn Layden, Andrew House or Jack Tretton - there's a job for you!
Honestly, not going to miss Jimbob. The guy was an accountant, sucking all the joy out of PlayStation.
@ShogunRok Thing is, no-one remembers him being involved in the PS4 because we had Messrs Layden, House and Tretton generating excitement on stage whereas Jimbob stood in the wings with Excel open.
Think we got a couple of free games last time Sony were hacked (2011) - wonder if they'll offer us anything this time round?
Probably not, tight b*st*rds....
My 3 DualShock 3 controllers and my 4 DualShock 4 controllers have no sign of any drift, despite a LOT of use. Then again they feel much better built than the DualSense 5. That said, no sign of any drift so far (not been used that much though) and the only one I've seen it on is my son's Switch where the left joycon became unusable.
This controller have been worthwhile if you could change the DPad and left stick position round like some of the more expensive DS replacements.
Give the IP back to someone like Core (in the early days), give Lara a classic look, an advertising budget and I think you'd see a resurgence.
I suppose we'll see with the remastered versions but even that's had minimal advertising apart from a footnote in the recent Ninty and Fony shows.
The Crystal Dynamics rebooted franchise just left me feeling cold - went back to playing Anniversary on the Vita for a classic puzzle and action game. It's a bit like comparing the Angelina Jolie and Alicia Vikander movies - one was fun, one wasn't.
Lost interest with Elder Scrolls after Oblivion (which was brilliant) Skyrim just didn't grab me at all.
That said, Elder Scrolls Online is still quite good fun and will continue to be supported on the PS4 & PS5.
Can't say I "feel the game". (sounds a bit rude!)
Astro's Playroom was just a tech demo with a Tearaway style game on top. Did the 'haptic' buzzing make me more engaged with the game? No.
Only decent use for rumble is controller heartbeat when your health is getting low or going over the kerbs in racing games but the DS4 does that perfectly well.
To me, the DS5 seems like a cheaply-made, more uncomfortable and far too overweight DS4.
I just wish Sony would allow us to use DS4s on PS5 games 'cos I don't think we'd be losing anything by doing so (but Fony would be losing out on the $$$)
@itsfoz I was about to say the same thing - what resolution will the PS5 be able to wheeze its way up to with 60fps and ray-tracing? 1080 at absolute most?
Wish they'd let us use the DS4s for all PS5 games - the DS5 seems like a bit of a one trick pony so far and so much more uncomfortable to hold than the old ones.
And while they're at it, bring back the coloured buttons!
Personally I'm looking for a beech/light oak panels so I can really hide the vile 5 away even more, I've got it bunged behind the TV unit at the moment with only a small amount protruding so I can access the disc drive.
As for controller colours, these are really disappointing considering the variation that we had in the DualShock 4s.
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Re: Rumour: Diablo 4's First Expansion Has Been Unearthed
Are we sure this will hit Playstation?
Re: Spiritual Successor to PS4, PS Vita Classic Velocity 2X Not Announced for PS5
Sony sh**s on devs with the shameful treatment of the Vita and then people wonder why devs bog off to a rival system....
Re: The First PS5 Slim Has Been Spotted, Release Date Likely Imminent
@S1ayeR74 I've liked pretty much all Sony's consoles up to and including the PS4 Pro.
PS5 is just vile - I keep my hidden behind the TV unit which is thankfully tall enough. The Tub o' Lard (its official name) only has the disc drive accessible.
Only other I detested was the PS3 Super Slim with it's cheesy sliding lid though that might have been more to do with it being a cheap and nasty earache with its loud Blu-ray drive and inability to stand up when changing a disc. Sold that on to someone else and bought a 2500 series Slim which is still working quietly to this day!
Re: Action RPG Achilles: Legends Untold Storms the Beaches of Troy in Developer-Led Gameplay
'souls-like'? No, please, no more!!
Looks more like Diablo or Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance to me anyway?
Re: Secret PS5 Update Finally Makes It Possible to Check for Updates on Games in Your Library
While PS5 updates are reasonably quick to download and install (using compressed files presumably?) the PS5's total inability to download multiple things at once is still a right royal pain in the rear.
PS4 does it seamlessly, downloading & installing multiple things at once, but the 5 downloads one while all others are 'queued'.
Re: You'll Need an Internet Connection to Pair PS5 Slim's Optional Blu-ray Drive
It's probably a one off connection to register the drive's unique ID number against your PS5 on your PSN account.
Re: Media Molecule Reportedly the Latest Studio Hit with Layoffs
MM need to get back to their basics - LBP4 would be a welcome return from them.
Re: Veteran PlayStation Exec Has Allegedly Left Sony
@Juanalf While I don't wish anyone to lose their job, I'd be more than happy if the live service and PC push teams find employment elsewhere
@stBoa Brilliant!
@Darylb88 Definitely in the USA these days - and not for the better.
Re: Is It Surprising that PlayStation Fans Don't Really Care About the PS5 Slim?
Be interesting to see the difference in the internals from the PS5 1200-series (the latest fat ones) when a Fatboy Slim gets opened up.
Re: Poll: Will You Be Buying a PS5 'Slim'?
Not fussed. Got a butt-ugly 1200 series disc edition hidden mostly by the TV unit and this is just as butt ugly (maybe even more so, if that's possible?)
Re: Interview: Learning More About Project Mugen, a New PS5, PS4 Game That Looks Too Good to Be True
@get2sammyb Yes, it does and it does run really well on the Pro too - it's just the ridiculous fan speed that a 'barely disturbing the hardware' game can provoke. Same thing happened with Nickelodeon Brawl. No need for it and it smacks of really badly optimised code.
Re: Secret PS5 Update Makes It Possible to Check for Patches on Games in Your Library
@IrishNomad @Weebleman That double install still bugs me every time I stick the Diablo cross gen disc into the tub o' lard and it tries to install the PS4 version yet again.
On the subject of auto downloading patches, it's even more annoying because the dopey 5 doesn't have the PS4's download chip, allowing the old stager to download multiple patches in one go. The sluggish 5 seems slower to download PS4 game patches and can only do one patch at once making it impossibly slow as everything else is stuck as 'queued'.
Re: Interview: Learning More About Project Mugen, a New PS5, PS4 Game That Looks Too Good to Be True
Let's hope that whenever it gets released it's better optimised than Genshin Impact which causes the PS4 Pro's fans to go into overdrive for no apparent reason.
Re: PS5, PS4 Players Will 'Remain Welcome' As Xbox Closes $69 Billion Activision Blizzard Buyout
Funny how we've not heard anything from Jim Ryan on the subject....?
Looks like Sony will have to finally get their corporate fingers out of their arses and produce some new games! Either that, or buy Ubisoft....
Re: Microsoft Activision Deal Finally Given the All-Clear from UK Regulator
@Godot25 Interesting - perhaps Sony should buy them instead? lol
Re: Microsoft Activision Deal Finally Given the All-Clear from UK Regulator
So long Crash & Spyro - we loved having you as our mascots!
"We have now crossed the final regulatory hurdle to close this acquisition, which we believe will benefit players and the gaming industry worldwide."*
*as long as you have an XBox or PC
Also, "Microsoft will sell the cloud streaming rights for Activision Blizzard's games to Ubisoft."
So what happens if MS buys Ubisoft?
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Still Upgrade the PS5 Slim's SSD
@Fyz306903 Yes, a die shrink would be possible - I thought there were already plans for AMD to do so but not heard anything more about it.
When you look at the innards of the different PS5 revisions, there's been massive changes in the circuit board and heat sink sizes as well as as a few other components. The CFI-1216 I have could easily sit in a 30% volume reduced case. I think The Verge did a piece on this shortly after the 1200 series was launched?
https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/7/23340577/sony-ps5-new-design-motherboard-less-power-lighter
Towards the end of the article, there's a side-by-side comparison.
Re: How Time Flies! Asterigos: Curse of the Stars Gets Free Aniversary Update on PS5, PS4
@NaughtyBoy Sounds painful...or messy?
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Still Upgrade the PS5 Slim's SSD
@Fyz306903 I suspect it'll be a similar power draw as the latter PS5 (1216 model)as there hasn't been a die shrink as far as I know?
Re: Disney CEO Reportedly Being Pressured to Double Down on Gaming
Given the way they destroyed Star Wars and the MCU spin-offs, I can't imagine much worse than Disney taking over any sizeable publisher.
They are totally imaginatively bankrupt and even Pixar can't help as they are a mere shadow of their former selves post John Lasseter, no matter what you think of him and his reasons for not being with the company any more.
Re: PS5 Slim Officially Unveiled, Attachable Disc Drive, Launches November
@Smiffy01 Can't say that I have - is the Xbox that bad?
I have played on a PS4 Pro recently and that UI is such a breath of fresh air compared to the PS5 coal mine.
Re: PS5 Slim Doesn't Come with a Vertical Stand, Needs to Be Bought Separately
The last PS that stood vertically without a stand was the fat-boy PS3 60GB.
PS4 and Pro need a stand to go vertical but don't need one for going horizontally - why haven't Fony sorted that one as part of the redesign?
Have to wait for the not-very-slim to be out for a while and then get the unofficial once for a third of the price that does the job just as well.
Re: PS5 Slim Officially Unveiled, Attachable Disc Drive, Launches November
The original one is as ugly as sin and they've kept with same butt-ugliness with the new one.
While a reduction in size (well, volume) is appreciated, I think the new one actually looks worse than the original (if that's possible).
Still, hide it behind the TV unit and problem solved! Now if Sony could just put some PS4 visual sparkle into the barren, dismal OS...
Hoping that the PS6 will be stylish (he says, casting his gaze at the Pro under the TV).
Re: The Crew Motorfest Will Be Free to Try for 10 Days This Month
Is this trial for PS4 and PS5?
Re: PS5's Pro Controller DualSense Edge Will Get Strong Competition
Wish Sony would just do the decent thing and give us the ability to play PS5 games with the DualShock 4 controllers.
So we'd lose a bit of haptic-ness (can't say I've noticed that much of it going around anyway) and we'd gain a more comfortable controller.
Re: The Last of Us Multiplayer's Microtransactions Man Has Left Naughty Dog
"Principal Monetisation Designer" eh?
Yeah, we can do without him...
Re: DriveClub at 60FPS on PS5 Has Us Mourning the Loss of Evolution Studios All Over Again
I know the game's been de-listed on the PS Store, but if you buy a copy of Driveclub on PS4 disc, can you still download the patches and so on?
Re: PlayStation's Push for Live Service Games Hasn't Been Going Smoothly
Dev studios didn't want to make them (but their Geordie overlord told them to - or else) and no-one wants to play them. Who could've seen that happening?
So long Ryan and thank you for nearly destroying everything I liked about PlayStation.
Now, Naughty Dog, about Uncharted 5....
Re: DriveClub at 60FPS on PS5 Has Us Mourning the Loss of Evolution Studios All Over Again
Unfortunately, it's not just the studio that closes, but you also end up with a vast amount of experience of making those games so great walking out the door too.
I think most of Evolution ended up at Codemasters in the Codemasters Evo subdivision. After the dreary OnRush, I'm not sure if they didn't get re-distributed throughout the company?
The chances of another DriveClub or Motorstorm seem unlikely at best. Let's hope the Ryan Replacement will think it's a good idea to try and resurrect some of these studios with some of the original staff rather than remastering stuff that no-one wants.
Evolution = 4 the players
Re: Massive PS Store Sale Wants You to Play PS5, PS4 for Longer
I use the PS4's Store application mainly - still about 1000x better than the web browser. PS5 isn't much better unless you know what you're looking for.
Re: Preview: Hot Wheels Unleashed 2 Really Does Feel Like a Turbocharged Sequel
The original looked bloody amazing on the Pro - as fast and smooth as the 5.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation Boss Jim Ryan May Have Been Disliked, But Leaves Big Boots to Fill
@riceNpea No, I'm saying that a few people on here are saying how Ryan was amazing launching the PS5 as if it was a stand-alone success.
Most of its success comes from the PS4 owners 'upgrading' (I use that term sparingly) whereas the PS3/XBox360/Wii era was a lot more complicated and the PS4 had to start from scratch.
Layden, House and Tretton laid the foundations for the success of the PS4 (Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot too) and the PS5 is simply carrying on the job based on the previous SCE/SIE leads work, nothing to do with Ryan.
Re: Tomb Raider's Next on the Netflix Animation Train
Isn't this the one that was mentioned a while ago - with Lara voiced by the ever-gorgeous Hayley "Agent Carter" Atwell?
Re: Reaction: PlayStation Boss Jim Ryan May Have Been Disliked, But Leaves Big Boots to Fill
As I said in the main story, someone get on the phone to Shawn Layden, Andrew House or Jack Tretton - there's a job for you!
The PS5 is a success but it's still standing on the shoulders of the PS4. Making a backwards compatible successor to that particular juggernaut was always going to be a success - let's face it, it's not down to the case design or the overflowing raft of exclusives.
Re: Jim Ryan Retires as PlayStation Boss in March 2024
Someone get on the phone to Shawn Layden, Andrew House or Jack Tretton - there's a job for you!
Honestly, not going to miss Jimbob. The guy was an accountant, sucking all the joy out of PlayStation.
@ShogunRok Thing is, no-one remembers him being involved in the PS4 because we had Messrs Layden, House and Tretton generating excitement on stage whereas Jimbob stood in the wings with Excel open.
Re: Sony Has Allegedly Suffered a Huge Hack by Ransomware Group
Think we got a couple of free games last time Sony were hacked (2011) - wonder if they'll offer us anything this time round?
Probably not, tight b*st*rds....
Re: Preview: Dragon's Dogma 2 Feels Like a Remake of the First Game, in a Good Way
Dragon's Dogma killed my fat PS3 and a refurbished fat PS3!
So looking forward to this. Sad that BG3 and this are the only justifications for owning The Tub o' Lard....
Re: Nacon's Revolution 5 Pro Controller Promises to Eliminate Stick Drift on PS5, PS4
My 3 DualShock 3 controllers and my 4 DualShock 4 controllers have no sign of any drift, despite a LOT of use. Then again they feel much better built than the DualSense 5.
That said, no sign of any drift so far (not been used that much though) and the only one I've seen it on is my son's Switch where the left joycon became unusable.
This controller have been worthwhile if you could change the DPad and left stick position round like some of the more expensive DS replacements.
Re: Dragon's Dogma 2 Headlines Capcom's Live Presentation at TGS
@Nem "Just DLC and remasters."
Welcome to the PS5 era...
Re: Tomb Raider Developer Crystal Dynamics Hit with Layoffs as Embracer Crumbling Continues
Give the IP back to someone like Core (in the early days), give Lara a classic look, an advertising budget and I think you'd see a resurgence.
I suppose we'll see with the remastered versions but even that's had minimal advertising apart from a footnote in the recent Ninty and Fony shows.
The Crystal Dynamics rebooted franchise just left me feeling cold - went back to playing Anniversary on the Vita for a classic puzzle and action game. It's a bit like comparing the Angelina Jolie and Alicia Vikander movies - one was fun, one wasn't.
Re: PlayStation's 2024 Release Schedule Is Already a Joke
Is it bad that I'm probably most excited for the Tomb Raider remasters?
Star Wars Outlaws could be a) very good, or b) very broken - we'll see on that.
Re: There's Something Weird Going on with Titanfall 2 Right Now
Titanfall 3 - live service edition.
Re: If It Wasn't Obvious, The Elder Scrolls 6 Will Skip PlayStation
Lost interest with Elder Scrolls after Oblivion (which was brilliant) Skyrim just didn't grab me at all.
That said, Elder Scrolls Online is still quite good fun and will continue to be supported on the PS4 & PS5.
Re: Xbox Poised to Borrow from PS5's DualSense Controller
Can't say I "feel the game". (sounds a bit rude!)
Astro's Playroom was just a tech demo with a Tearaway style game on top. Did the 'haptic' buzzing make me more engaged with the game? No.
Only decent use for rumble is controller heartbeat when your health is getting low or going over the kerbs in racing games but the DS4 does that perfectly well.
To me, the DS5 seems like a cheaply-made, more uncomfortable and far too overweight DS4.
I just wish Sony would allow us to use DS4s on PS5 games 'cos I don't think we'd be losing anything by doing so (but Fony would be losing out on the $$$)
Re: Interview: Talking PS5 Tech, the Open World, and Suits in Spider-Man 2
"With Ratchet & Clank, there was the PS5 SSD that allowed you to create the rift dimensions and everything"
Interesting that there was no response to that....
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Has Ray Tracing at 60fps on PS5
@itsfoz I was about to say the same thing - what resolution will the PS5 be able to wheeze its way up to with 60fps and ray-tracing? 1080 at absolute most?
Re: Helldivers 2 Is Absolutely Bursting with Bugs, Squads Up on PS5, PC in February
Must download Helldivers onto the Vita again unless I've already got it on one of my 2 cards?
Re: PS5 Deep Earth Collection Dazzles with New DualSense, Cover Plate Colours
@Macver1ck Steel Black is my favourite DS4 too!
Wish they'd let us use the DS4s for all PS5 games - the DS5 seems like a bit of a one trick pony so far and so much more uncomfortable to hold than the old ones.
And while they're at it, bring back the coloured buttons!
Re: The Original Tomb Raider Trilogy Returns in Remaster Collection on PS5, PS4
Better dust off the Vita and get some practice in on the PS1 original and Anniversary.
Re: PS5 Deep Earth Collection Dazzles with New DualSense, Cover Plate Colours
Personally I'm looking for a beech/light oak panels so I can really hide the vile 5 away even more, I've got it bunged behind the TV unit at the moment with only a small amount protruding so I can access the disc drive.
As for controller colours, these are really disappointing considering the variation that we had in the DualShock 4s.