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@Ephexis83 Agree. If MM had released Tren with a track creator, that would've flown off the shelves.

Hope MM can come back with a LittleBigPlanet 4 (with Stephen Fry's voice, obviously). If Sony shuts them, I think they'd set up as an independent which would leave them open to M$ buying them out.

PS5 (perhaps I should rename the Tub o' Lard to just White Elephant) is gathering dust in my spare room unless my son plays Dreams (a PS4 title) on it. Our PS3 still gets more use than the 5.

SSD Pro is still downstairs with its more comfortable controllers, much nicer UI and it's running all the games I play fine. Being a 7200 series, even the fan is quiet.

This is the problem - I should be all over that new console but apart from a handful of titles, it's been the biggest waste of £500 I've ever spent.

Origins was an epic. DA2 less so, but Inquisition raised the bar again. This looks to be a continuation of the 3rd one so I'm up for this! PS5 might have 2 games worth buying this year - wooo.

"where you make your own character"

OK, I'm interested.

@Nem Yes, formed from the ashes of Studio Liverpool/Psygnosis after Sony shuttered them.
Weird thing is, since then, they've produced nothing of any importance apart from a Horizon tech demo for PSVR2 andd that was half done by Guerilla.

We hoped for Wipeout or even Motorstorm reboots but they don't seem to be capable or given a break to actually release anything? I wonder if the people with talent have left?

"We bet it'll look like F1"

I bet that the PS5 version will look identical to the PS4 version running on a Pro - all the others have! Only difference is that the kerb rumble will work on the PS4.

Control was one of the best games in the PS4 era - polished, visually stunning, disturbing and intriguing at the same time - so will be interesting to see what number 2 brings to the table.

@Robocod Have to agree - Resistance, Motorstorm, Modnation Racers & Little Big Planet 1 & 2 shouldn't be stuck on the PS3.

Obviously with the demise of Evolution and United Front Games, those middle two might be more tricky but I'm sure someone could do a decent port? Or, crazy thought, resurrect Driveclub?

It's all about the profit margin with Sony these days, it seems. PS5 isn't going to sell as many as they thought (about 4 million units down) and so profits are down - bear in mind that's PROFITS - and so to protect that profit margin for the shareholders, the workers take the hit.
Suppose they need to get Jim Ryan's golden-handshake from somewhere. The guy's been such an inspiration (on how not to be a good CEO)

Good luck to all those affected, hope they find something soon though the way the industry is going, where's safe?

@Shushibda We had the same decision to make when we got one for my son for Christmas.
We eventually plumped for the VS, the TV console, as we can play multi-player and you can load in 2 cartridges in at the same time which can unlock some hidden games (e.g. Team 17 collection + Worms collection unlocks Worms: The Director's Cut)

@Robocod I'm just hoping that whoever replaces Jim Ryan will keep us in the loop for emulation, remaster (PS2/PS3 to PS4 was and is valid) and new/rebooted releases & IPs.
We need a Layden-type back in the mix.

@Robocod I don't think it was that they couldn't be bothered, it's just that neither the PS4 or PS5 has the necessary grunt to emulate the Cell architecture without melting. Push/pop architecture vs distributed processing needs a LOT of horsepower.
Given the PC spec needed to run RPCS3, I think we're at least a generation off.

LBP and ModNation Racers were the epitome of PS at its creative best.
We need those games back. MM are still around (somehow!) and although United Front games may have gone, San Diego Studios worked on the original ModNation (and its Vita sequel) so we still have some experience in PS Studios.

By the way, wasn't it announced recently that all the LBP 1 & 2 objects, textures and so on are now in LBP 3?
@Ichiban LBP 4 - the Souls-a-like edition. Dear lord, no!

Let's hope the rumble works properly on the PS5 b/c, unlike some of the official F1 games.

Went for an interview at Rare in the Nintendo days and their office walls were full of all the original Ultimate: Play The Game artwork; Atic Atac, Jetpac, Underwurlde, Sabrewulf, Knight Lore and so on.

To say I was awestruck, even in my mid-twenties at the time, is an understatement!

Played the 2nd one (Epic Mickey on the PS3) in multi-player. Does this support multi-player?

@Shushibda Might be worth keeping an eye on Evercade or Switch - there are already C64 titles coming on those.

@mwatcher Weirdly, the PS3 and Vita don't need this but the PSP does, sort of! You can still log into your PS account but the usual password won't work and you have to generate a new random one on the Sony site!

Given that it's coming on the Switch, I have a few reservations but it does look cool.

Also, surprised, if it can run on a Switch, that the PS4 and XBone aren't getting it too?

@Shushibda Went for an interview at Rare in the Nintendo days and their office walls were full of all the original Ultimate artwork; Atic Atac, Jetpac, Underwurlde, Sabrewulf, Knight Lore and so on.

To say I was awestruck, even in my mid-twenties at the time, is an understatement!

"his misunderstood, deeply dry sense of humour has landed him in hot water with enthusiasts on numerous occasions"
That's not what we had a problem with. His lack of communication was more of an issue and his few contentious statements that he did make were somewhat cringe-worthy.

Remember getting my Playstation (no number) from a local shop in Ashby-de-la-Zouch with a copy of Doom and the original Tomb Raider. It was the model just after the revised CD drive had been introduced to stop read issues, if I remember rightly?
Since then it's been fat PS2, fat 60GB PS3, slim PS3 (fatty died), PS4 OG, PS4 Pro. PS5 still has to prove itself worth it to me...

@REALAIS Not really living in the past at all (I am old though!) - just waiting for something of note to arrive on the PS5 for me - I suspect it'll be getting a lot of use when Dragon's Dogma 2 lands and I'd love to get some time for BG3.

As for diverse titles. yes, I am waiting for LBP or ModNation Racers to get a sequel and add to the rostrum some games that aren't yet more bloomin' Souls-a-like clones and add some creativity.

I'm all for games being released on the PS4 still IF they are capable of running it. If they are going to struggle, by all means just do it for the PS5.

@LifeGirl I'm using my SSD Pro these days as the PS5 has some serious DS4 rumble incompatibilities.
Only person using the PS5 is my son but even then he's on our PS3 or his SSD Pro just as much.

@get2sammyb True, and I think with the still on-going clamouring for themes and folders (proper ones, mind) and a load of other features that the PS4 has - even the niceties of life, such as saving your own save data to a USB stick if you don't want to pay for a PS+ account. Didn't hurt the PS4 sales or PS+ take-up.

Sooner Jim "accountant" Ryan is out and someone with a soul is back in (Layden, House, Tretton please!) we might actually get the PS5 UI in a decent state.

People play games that they like, and don't need to pay attention to any leader-board. If anything, the PS5 is still missing the What's New section of the dashboard to see what your friends are playing.

PS3 and PS4 had a great diversity of games, something for all gamers, which is why the PS5 has been such a disappointment so far.

Even Google engineers want a new PSP! Who'd have thought...

No games, nothing to bother searching for...

"PS5........is by far the biggest home console on the planet " - No argument there (fat b*st*rd or my own PS5, "The Tub o' Lard")

As for the PS5 (hidden) browser-based Store, it's a real creaky mess compared to the PS4's built in store app. Yet again, I find the old stager doing something else better than the new pretender.

Good - don't paywall it behind PS+ Premium, Fony.

@PaulCapp Definitely. I mean, if the PS4 Pro can push 4K, even with checkerboarding, at 30fps then I think we assumed an 8K capable console would do 4K @ twice the frame rate as its dad.

Personally, I wish I'd have kept the £530 I paid for a disc PS5 and an extra controller in the bank as my SSD Pro is loading games at a very slightly slower rate (if at all) than the PS5 SSD and at least it can download multiple patches and games at once.

@Khayl "Could you see a Dominic Monaghan-led live-action Star Wars film?" Errr, no.

Give the tripe that Disney are plopping out these days, this might be a better option than some of the other entries in the canon (Mandalorian being the rare exception)

PS5 is still mostly gathering dust due to some weird incompatibilities with the DualShock 4 rumble feedback so I'm afraid my Pro is getting more use than "The Tub o' Lard" so it's not worth upgrading.

The PS4 Pro had a purpose - 4K displays.
The PS5 Pro is for - what? Massive shortcomings in the original model?

Lost faith in Ubisoft since they canned Fenyx 2.

@themightyant Unless I've missed a Sony announcement, the 500GB base PS4 is very much still in production.

It's a shame they don't release PS4 numbers any more. Wonder if it's hit the 120 million mark now, given that the PS2 sold another 3-4million units after Sony stopped reporting?

Original is still on the Vita store for £6.49 - and you can remap the controls to the right stick too, of course!

Some of XBox Studios games were already underway on PS4/5 when the ActiBlizz deal went through - causing them to be shelved at whatever state they were at.
Can't imagine it would take too much effort to get them back up to the XBox levels of development again so I suspect those are the titles we're likely to see first IF the rumours are true.

Been using the SSD 4 Pro a lot more that the fatty recently. Some games don't emulate the DS4 properly and the PS5 games we can be bothered to own are scant to say the least.
5's UI is still miserable and incomplete compared to the old stager.
Begins to make me wonder if the PS4 will out last the PS5.

Whaddya mean, no hop backwards control mapped in the updated controls? May have to be tank controls until they fix that glaring omission.

Wasn't a fan of the reboots (barely a Tomb to raid) but the proper ones are back now so I'm set for a bit of Raiding.

She looks like a cross between proper Lara and reboot Lara so hopefully she'll gravitate towards the former. I think Hayley Atwell is doing the voice for the Netflix anime version. Perfect voice. Use Angelina Jolie as the template for what Lara looks like and job's done.

In its 4th year, the PS4 really hit its stride and cleared 76 million units. The PS5 might not be able to keep pace with its dad if current price and lacklustre release schedules continue.
And potentially worst of all, Nintendo have a new console waiting in the wings which no doubt won't cost £500...

Charging same money for a cheaper product = more money.

In its 4th year, the PS4 cleared 76 million units - the PS5 might not be able to keep pace if current price and lacklustre release schedules continue. And Nintendo have a new console waiting in the wings...

Regarding price cuts, surely the PS4 should've dropped to £200 with a game now? It can't owe anything in terms of hardware and software development (apart from the background download chip - that thing is PRICELESS)

@BlaizeV So many smaller titles could've come along - not forgetting some of the bigger hitters like Everybody's Golf.
This somewhat comedy generation is the first one to not have an EG game.

My PS5 is still gathering dust (might change once Dragon's Dogma 2 arrives) but other than that, the PS4 is still getting all the love (and quite a lot of new releases)

@Kidfunkadelic83 I bought mine yesterday to get the small pre-order discount (penny pinching, I know!)
Going to be strange playing the original game with an analogue stick - closest to that experience was Anniversary on PSP/Vita.

@get2sammyb Let's hope the basic rumble works OK - I've experienced a few games recently where the PS5 isn't emulating the DS4 rumble correctly.

Pre-ordered it last night (last minute.com or what) so I'm looking forward to some actual tomb raiding unlike the more recent entries.

@Kidfunkadelic83 I bought the PS4 version anyway and I suspect that the load times won't be that different on a Pro with a fast SSD inside.

PS5 has been the "it" console since its launch - though three and a half years later, still not entirely sure why? Probably not a popular view, but there you are.
It's still standing on the PS4's shoulders. True a few next-gen titles have started to emerge which is good but it's hardly awash with them, even now. SIE need to get their fingers out and make it great, but with M$ in the doldrums and considering porting games across, maybe M$ titles will be an injection of excitement in the PS5.

However, given the backwards compatibility with the PS4, it just gives the PS5 a colossal head start on the XBox as no-one in their right mind would give up their PS4 discs/digital downloads.. I don't think the Series S is exactly helping M$'s case.

Let hope Nintendo come out with a banger of a console because Sony seriously need some competition to galvanise them into action. Complacent Sony is a bad Sony. Bring on Jim Ryan's replacement...

@Icey664 Whole PS5 'experience' feels like a bit of a beta to be honest. Bit like the first few iterations of the PS3 OS.
PS4 seemed to hit the ground running and just got better and better until it is (still) the pinnacle of PS UI & OS.

Don't really care about Trophies but I was going PS4 on this anyway.
The Ryan Replacement can't come soon enough as someone needs to take the reins of the quite clearly bonkers PS management.

There are numerous titles stuck in the PS3 era that could do with a spit & polish onto current consoles (I am including the PS4 here too).

I'm looking at Motorstorm (all of them), Little Big Planet 1 & 2 and Modnation Racers (& Road Trip) for starters.
Whilst Motorstorm may be difficult due to the demise of Evolution, LBP is from a Sony Studio and Modnation Racers was assisted by Sony's San Diego Studio.

The Uncharted remasters were and and are fine. If you want Nathan Drake back, give us number 5 and not another f****ing remaster! Either that or tie it in with young Nate as per the films.

First, let it be called PSP (add a number of your choice or not at all!)
I got fed up explaining what a Vita was - it's a Playstation Portable so just 'the PSP' is fine.

This time, give it a 720p screen (minimum), clickable L3 & R3 sticks, L2 and R2 analogue triggers and job's a good 'un.
PS4 compatibility would be great if it's possible and it certainly wouldn't be software starved like the poor, back-stabbed Vita.

See, this LOOKS next gen.