Wish Sony would introduce an 'online play only' option tier to PS+ for about £3 a month and then those of us who won't miss these games can use online and not be bothered with anything else (apart from PS5 save backups?)
@belmont It makes no sense - you can't take your Switch game over to the PS5 but you would be able to take it from the PS4, or just enjoy it on your PS4. Sony losing sales for what?
That said, he, Andrew House or Jack Tretton would've been a much better CEO than Jim 'Accountant' Ryan. At least Shawn used to speak to gamers. He obviously saw what was (or more accurately wasn't) coming with the PS5 so maybe we'll see him again in a couple of years?
@get2sammyb Japan Studio, Evolution, Studio Liverpool - those are the closures that still sting AND the ramifications are STILL being felt due to a short-sighted Sony, some over 10 years later.
@DennisReynolds To be honest, I don't think it would be a high cost (probably just put the same source code through the compiler with the PS4 options set) This is Sony marketing not believing in generations...
Given the target audience, cutting out the PS4 does seem somewhat silly because it wouldn't have problem running it if the inferior Switch hardware can.
Does seem somewhat strange - halve your chances of selling on the PS platforms by cutting off the PS4 (which I believe is still in production?) when you have a game capable of running on the Switch?
@Nem Wasn't Solas the Dreadwolf? Been a long time since I played Inquisition - then again it was close to launch for the PS4, I think, as it was on the PS3 too.
Personally, I think they could've called it "Dragon Age: Veilguard" (dropping the 'The') and it would sound better.
Given the existence of The Touryst, it isn't false advertising to say the PS5 supports 8k - because it does for that one Switch title.
However, 8K seems to be an answer to a question no-one asked when circa 4K is all you can get out of streaming services (Netflix, Disney+, Prime, etc.) and standard broadcast is good, old 1080i/p
@CaptD You'd be better off getting down to your local CEX and pick up a PS3 Slim with a 2 year warranty on it and pick up a handful of cheap game discs while you're there.
PS3 emulation isn't going to arrive anytime soon due to the innovative Cell & its SPUs vs ancient push/pop x86 architectures.
Look at the PC specs required to really get any kind of grunt into RPCS3 and we're looking at PS6 at the earliest.
@nomither6 Yeah, still wish Sony would allow the use of the DualShock4 to play PS5 games. It has exactly the same buttons and at least the DS4 lasts longer than a Fruit Pastille. Sony say it's so "you get the best PS5 experience" - while your character walks left automatically to their instant demise...
@xDD90x Thanks for the response - I assumed it was a PS4-optimised 'shell' (for want of a better word) running the PS2 data.
PS4 and the Fat One can't even read some PS2 discs anyway so I guessed it wasn't a play anything emulator.
@ProfessorNiggle I agree - I think Vita emulation would've happened by now if it was going to. Other problem with the Vita is that back touchpad - wasn't used that much but as the DS4 and DS5 controllers only have one trackpad, some games would be difficult to emulate.
@get2sammyb So, I'm a little confused (nothing new there!)
When you say "emulator", are you meaning that there's a new firmware update inbound for the PS4/PS5 which has this new emulator in it or is it somehow included in the game that hosts the PS2 data?
@nomither6 Not even a year old (and with only 'very light' usage) and my white DualSense is on its way back to Sony due to going left all the time. On the other hand, my PS3 Slim and its 3 official DS3s are all working perfectly. Never had stick drift on any other DualShock but the DualSense seems to come with it built in.
The 'plot' of season 3 was a nonsensical mess so unless they've hired someone talented to continue the story then it's on a hiding to nothing. To be fair, Liam doesn't look too bad in this one scene but we'll need to see if he brings the presence (and the voice) to Geralt like Henry did. I'm much more likely to tune in to Henry's Warhammer 40K series on Prime.
@zebric21 Maybe - I mean GT7 and Cyberpunk apparently run fine on the Pro (though the Cyberpunk expansions are missing)
I have a PS5 and for me BG3 is one of the very few reasons to own one. I'm still waiting for that must have system seller title 'cos at the moment, I'm seeing a lot of barely updated PS4 titles.
@Kidfunkadelic83 @Barry_vV Doubt it'll be enhanced for the 5 - they are PS4 titles, that's all.
Funny in this day and age, isn't it, but the Japanese do seem to like their PS4s.
Load times will be quicker with an SSD but the same could be said for a PS4 (or better, ,a SATA 3 Pro) with an SSD in it.
@HammerKirby3 Personally I'm still using the Pro over the PS5 as the ESO haptic feedback is totally broken in the PS5 & PS4 version on the fat boy, but works perfectly on the Pro with DS4. Other games which suffer from the same problem are some of the F1 games (no rumble going over kerbs, etc. on PS5 but works on PS4) and Immortals Fenyx Rising where drawing back the bow string rattles the DS5 like a broken down diesel car whereas the DS4 just rumbles with increasing intensity.
Still running a PS4 Pro (very quiet 72xx series) and I also have a PS5 (12xx series) and to be honest I prefer the old stager - the UI and OS are just much better and I even prefer the DS4 controller, both aesthetically and ergonomically. As for load times, I solved a lot of the issue by sticking a £50 Crucial 6GB/s SSD in place of the stock HDD and it slashes load times.
As for the figures, 59 million PS5 units sold (max) and PS active users stands at 118 million per month. That's half the users are on a PS5. Yes, some will be a PS5 that's being used by more than one subscriber, though the same argument to say that half those users are on a PS4 with multiple accounts?
By those numbers, yes, half are probably still on PS4 (assume they're not counting PS3 or Vita at all now?) and given my experiences so far, there's a limited reason to 'upgrade'.
So the PS4 is ahead - hardly surprising. In its lifetime (it's still alive and kicking) the PS4 had the Pro and the Slim launch - providing a 4K capable device and a cheaper alternative.
The PS5 has had the still wonky remodel but there's been no price cut and no 'super charged' model either. That could change if they can be bothered with the Pro (or is it better to just hop on to the 6?)
£480 for a console with 4 year old innards that's now cheaper to make and has a lot of PS4 titles upgraded a bit? Small wonder the sales are dropping. And as for "the PS4’s best-ever Q4 managed just 3.1 million units", what isn't said it that it was a constant, year-on-year performance that just kept growing numbers, levelling off in 2020 when its supposed successor finally appeared.
@LifeGirl Yes, not sure if she was terrible or if it was just the last Indiana Jones film was so terrible she couldn't save it.
Strange choice to write it? Then again, if she's enthusiastic and remains true to the Core originals, could be good. I thought Rhianna Pratchett would have been number 1 choice though as she has history?
@get2sammyb I think you're being optimistic if you think that the PS5 can emulate the PS3's zany architecture with any kind of decent performance. I mean, look at the specs needed for RPCS3. The poor Tub o' Lard would melt! (might look better though...)
Perhaps we'll see something with the PS6 (even number PlayStations tend to be better) and finally it might have the raw horsepower required.
@Colt22 Without Japan Studio, we lost "Everybody's Golf" which is enough of a tragedy for me. Didn't quite gel with Gravity Rush on the Vita so no, I didn't buy GR2.
I have Motorstorm 1, 2 and 3 on the PS3 and Arctic Edge on the PSP/Vita. I think Motorstorm Pacific Rift sold quite well, hence Apocalypse being green lit. Driveclub's difficult birth (it wasn't ready when Sony demanded it got released) was the one title that killed Evolution, even though it evolved in the Studio's death throes into a fine title. Trouble is, we'll never get Evolution back and so those titles are probably consigned to history.
Sad when any creative game company gets stabbed in the back but this is far from being a M$ only problem of course.
Japan Studio - the ubiquitous Everybody's Golf is not appearing on a Sony console for the first time in its history.
Evolution - they finally got Driveclub in a good place but no MotorStorm going forwards?
Psygnosis/Studio Liverpool - Wipeout anyone? No, they were wiped out...
@Robocod Well they could really do with something; MM uploaded all their textures, objects, etc. to the LBP3 PS4 server at the start of the year and then only recently, Sony shut down said PS4 server due to unspecified issues with no indication about it ever coming back!
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Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for June 2024?
More things to not add to my library.
Wish Sony would introduce an 'online play only' option tier to PS+ for about £3 a month and then those of us who won't miss these games can use online and not be bothered with anything else (apart from PS5 save backups?)
Re: Preview: LEGO Horizon Adventures Is an Unexpected But Very Pleasant Surprise
@belmont It makes no sense - you can't take your Switch game over to the PS5 but you would be able to take it from the PS4, or just enjoy it on your PS4. Sony losing sales for what?
Re: Tencent Announces 15% Staff Reduction at UK-Based Sackboy Maker Sumo Group
@GymratAmarillo You're right - Sumo made LBP3 with assistance from MM, I believe.
We need the first two brought back and the blinking PS4 servers turning back on again!
Re: Ex-PS5 Exec Shawn Layden Isn't Holding Back His Feelings on Xbox
@SLRC98 Yes, miss Shawn and his gaming jumpers.
That said, he, Andrew House or Jack Tretton would've been a much better CEO than Jim 'Accountant' Ryan.
At least Shawn used to speak to gamers. He obviously saw what was (or more accurately wasn't) coming with the PS5 so maybe we'll see him again in a couple of years?
Re: Xbox Explains Why It Shuttered Beloved Hi-Fi Rush Developer
@get2sammyb Japan Studio, Evolution, Studio Liverpool - those are the closures that still sting AND the ramifications are STILL being felt due to a short-sighted Sony, some over 10 years later.
Re: Diablo 4's First Expansion Delves to PS5 in October
Good to see they're supporting the old stager still.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Shifts to 'Real-Time Action Combat'
Would be better if they allowed either/or like Pathfinder.
Re: Need Another Soulslike? Flintlock: The Siege of Dawn Attacks PS5 Next Month
"Need Another Soulslike?"
NO!
Re: Even as a LEGO Game, Horizon Adventures' PS5 Visuals Are Off the Charts
@DennisReynolds To be honest, I don't think it would be a high cost (probably just put the same source code through the compiler with the PS4 options set) This is Sony marketing not believing in generations...
Given the target audience, cutting out the PS4 does seem somewhat silly because it wouldn't have problem running it if the inferior Switch hardware can.
Re: Some PlayStation Fans Are Losing Their Minds Over LEGO Horizon Being on Switch
Does seem somewhat strange - halve your chances of selling on the PS platforms by cutting off the PS4 (which I believe is still in production?) when you have a game capable of running on the Switch?
Re: Dragon Age: Dreadwolf Now Dragon Age: The Veilguard, Full Gameplay Reveal Next Week
@Nem Wasn't Solas the Dreadwolf? Been a long time since I played Inquisition - then again it was close to launch for the PS4, I think, as it was on the PS3 too.
Personally, I think they could've called it "Dragon Age: Veilguard" (dropping the 'The') and it would sound better.
Re: Rumour: LEGO Horizon Adventures Is a PS5, PC Game from Day One, Reveal at Summer Game Fest Tomorrow
I loved the PS2 to Vita Lego games but the more recent ones have left me cold.
Never cared for Horizon so this a definite out for me.
Re: Dragon Age: Dreadwolf Now Dragon Age: The Veilguard, Full Gameplay Reveal Next Week
Hoping for this to be good - loved 1 (Origins) and 3 (Inquisition).2 was OK.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your PS5 Predictions for Summer Game Fest 2024?
Motorstorm, ModNation Racers and LBP brought back from the brink of extinction would be a good start.
Re: PS5 Packaging No Longer Mentions 8K, Some Fans Accuse Sony of False Advertising
Given the existence of The Touryst, it isn't false advertising to say the PS5 supports 8k - because it does for that one Switch title.
However, 8K seems to be an answer to a question no-one asked when circa 4K is all you can get out of streaming services (Netflix, Disney+, Prime, etc.) and standard broadcast is good, old 1080i/p
Re: PlayStation Fans Are Losing Their Heads Over an Iffy Portable PS4 Rumour
Portable PS4? Sign me up!
Funny thing is, people are talking about patching PS5 games to run on it - talk about ironic, the PS5 warriors would lose their heads over this!
Re: It's 'A Truly Exciting Time' for PlayStation as New Sony CEOs Take Control
"The PlayStation community is at the heart of everything we do"
Then engage with us! Can't say much about the hardware guy but as Hulst was Ryan's right hand man, I can't say I'm brimming with confidence.
Re: Ubisoft Calls in Second Studio for Prince of Persia: Sands of Time Remake
They should ditch this and make Fenyx 2.
Re: Mini Review: Horizon Chase 2 (PS5) - Around the World in 80 Revs
@get2sammyb Missing from the "Also Available For" section, it's on the PS4 too.
Funny if this is also a PS5 title? Can't imagine it'll be any different to the PS4 version?
Re: Reaction: PS5 Livestreams Are No Longer Speaking to the Fans Who Built the Brand
@CaptD You'd be better off getting down to your local CEX and pick up a PS3 Slim with a 2 year warranty on it and pick up a handful of cheap game discs while you're there.
PS3 emulation isn't going to arrive anytime soon due to the innovative Cell & its SPUs vs ancient push/pop x86 architectures.
Look at the PC specs required to really get any kind of grunt into RPCS3 and we're looking at PS6 at the earliest.
Re: Sly Cooper, Tomb Raider, Star Wars Revealed as Surprise PS2 Games on PS Plus Premium
@nomither6 Yeah, still wish Sony would allow the use of the DualShock4 to play PS5 games. It has exactly the same buttons and at least the DS4 lasts longer than a Fruit Pastille.
Sony say it's so "you get the best PS5 experience" - while your character walks left automatically to their instant demise...
Re: Deals: PS5 Consoles, PSVR2, Games and Accessories Reduced in Sony's Days of Play Sale
The new, not-quite-as-fat-as-the-last-one PS5 looks almost nice in that Sterling Silver cover! Who'd have thought?
Re: PS5, PS4's Brand New PS2 Emulator Features Up-Rendering, Rewind, Quick Saves, More
@xDD90x Thanks for the response - I assumed it was a PS4-optimised 'shell' (for want of a better word) running the PS2 data.
PS4 and the Fat One can't even read some PS2 discs anyway so I guessed it wasn't a play anything emulator.
Re: State of Play Officially Confirmed for 30th May, Updates on PS5, PSVR2 Games
ModNation Racers and LBP to get a full reboot with active servers 'n' everything! C'mon Sony, you know you want to!
Re: PS5, PS4's Brand New PS2 Emulator Features Up-Rendering, Rewind, Quick Saves, More
@ProfessorNiggle I agree - I think Vita emulation would've happened by now if it was going to.
Other problem with the Vita is that back touchpad - wasn't used that much but as the DS4 and DS5 controllers only have one trackpad, some games would be difficult to emulate.
Re: PS5, PS4's Brand New PS2 Emulator Features Up-Rendering, Rewind, Quick Saves, More
@get2sammyb So, I'm a little confused (nothing new there!)
When you say "emulator", are you meaning that there's a new firmware update inbound for the PS4/PS5 which has this new emulator in it or is it somehow included in the game that hosts the PS2 data?
Re: Sly Cooper, Tomb Raider, Star Wars Revealed as Surprise PS2 Games on PS Plus Premium
@nomither6 Not even a year old (and with only 'very light' usage) and my white DualSense is on its way back to Sony due to going left all the time.
On the other hand, my PS3 Slim and its 3 official DS3s are all working perfectly. Never had stick drift on any other DualShock but the DualSense seems to come with it built in.
Re: Sly Cooper, Tomb Raider, Star Wars Revealed as Surprise PS2 Games on PS Plus Premium
Are these PS2 games available for individual download?
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for June 2024 Announced
Streets Of Rage looks worth a check out. Spongebob might be OK. 'Mercain Wrestling? Oof - that's bad.
Re: New PS5, PS4 Games This Week (27th May to 2nd June)
@enrickUranium Yep, got that on my list too!
Re: Feast Your Eyes on Liam Hemsworth as Geralt in The Witcher Season Four
The 'plot' of season 3 was a nonsensical mess so unless they've hired someone talented to continue the story then it's on a hiding to nothing. To be fair, Liam doesn't look too bad in this one scene but we'll need to see if he brings the presence (and the voice) to Geralt like Henry did.
I'm much more likely to tune in to Henry's Warhammer 40K series on Prime.
Re: Random: Sony's Vision of Gaming's Future Includes a PS3 Boomerang Pad with a Screen
So, vapourware?
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Devs Felt 'Incredible Pressure' Starting Work on 'Very Ambitious' New RPG
@zebric21 Maybe - I mean GT7 and Cyberpunk apparently run fine on the Pro (though the Cyberpunk expansions are missing)
I have a PS5 and for me BG3 is one of the very few reasons to own one. I'm still waiting for that must have system seller title 'cos at the moment, I'm seeing a lot of barely updated PS4 titles.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Devs Felt 'Incredible Pressure' Starting Work on 'Very Ambitious' New RPG
@zebric21 True, but one game is difficult to justify a £550 outlay for some.
Might as well get a Series S, (probably free with a packet of Weetabix these days) if you want to play it.
Re: Millennials Must Gather Caring Energy in Care Bears: To the Rescue on PS5
Looks like a C64 platformer from back in the day.
Re: Interview: Capcom on Why Monster Hunter Stories Is Finally Coming to PS4
@Kidfunkadelic83 @Barry_vV Doubt it'll be enhanced for the 5 - they are PS4 titles, that's all.
Funny in this day and age, isn't it, but the Japanese do seem to like their PS4s.
Load times will be quicker with an SSD but the same could be said for a PS4 (or better, ,a SATA 3 Pro) with an SSD in it.
Re: 13 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Are Available to Download Now
@Soulless666 Yep, I've already set mine down to Essential - Extra 'upgrade' runs out at the start of December.
Re: A Lot of PS4 Owners Have Yet to Upgrade to PS5
@HammerKirby3 Personally I'm still using the Pro over the PS5 as the ESO haptic feedback is totally broken in the PS5 & PS4 version on the fat boy, but works perfectly on the Pro with DS4.
Other games which suffer from the same problem are some of the F1 games (no rumble going over kerbs, etc. on PS5 but works on PS4) and Immortals Fenyx Rising where drawing back the bow string rattles the DS5 like a broken down diesel car whereas the DS4 just rumbles with increasing intensity.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 529
Flexing in BROFORCE!
Also, I suspect the PS3 will be getting a spin up for Worms 2: Armageddon and maybe a bit of F1 Race Stars?
Re: A Lot of PS4 Owners Have Yet to Upgrade to PS5
Still running a PS4 Pro (very quiet 72xx series) and I also have a PS5 (12xx series) and to be honest I prefer the old stager - the UI and OS are just much better and I even prefer the DS4 controller, both aesthetically and ergonomically. As for load times, I solved a lot of the issue by sticking a £50 Crucial 6GB/s SSD in place of the stock HDD and it slashes load times.
As for the figures, 59 million PS5 units sold (max) and PS active users stands at 118 million per month. That's half the users are on a PS5. Yes, some will be a PS5 that's being used by more than one subscriber, though the same argument to say that half those users are on a PS4 with multiple accounts?
By those numbers, yes, half are probably still on PS4 (assume they're not counting PS3 or Vita at all now?) and given my experiences so far, there's a limited reason to 'upgrade'.
Re: Reaction: Why You Shouldn't Worry Too Much About PS5's Year-on-Year Decline
So the PS4 is ahead - hardly surprising. In its lifetime (it's still alive and kicking) the PS4 had the Pro and the Slim launch - providing a 4K capable device and a cheaper alternative.
The PS5 has had the still wonky remodel but there's been no price cut and no 'super charged' model either. That could change if they can be bothered with the Pro (or is it better to just hop on to the 6?)
£480 for a console with 4 year old innards that's now cheaper to make and has a lot of PS4 titles upgraded a bit? Small wonder the sales are dropping. And as for "the PS4’s best-ever Q4 managed just 3.1 million units", what isn't said it that it was a constant, year-on-year performance that just kept growing numbers, levelling off in 2020 when its supposed successor finally appeared.
Re: Sony Committed to Better First-Party Games, 'Richer' Experiences, More PS5 Users
Not going to bother with a PS5 Pro as I'm barely using the original one. Some decent games would come as a welcome relief.
Re: Monster Hunter Series Tops 100 Million Sales Milestone
Monster Hunter could've saved the Vita all by itself.
Re: Live-Action Tomb Raider Series Officially Ordered by Amazon Prime Video
@Frmknst No, someone who looks like Angelina Jolie would be ideal, far more than Alicia Vikander.
Re: Live-Action Tomb Raider Series Officially Ordered by Amazon Prime Video
@LifeGirl Yes, not sure if she was terrible or if it was just the last Indiana Jones film was so terrible she couldn't save it.
Strange choice to write it? Then again, if she's enthusiastic and remains true to the Core originals, could be good. I thought Rhianna Pratchett would have been number 1 choice though as she has history?
Re: PS5 Sales Reach 59.3 Million as Sony Falls Just Short of Fiscal Year Forecast
The next few months will be the tester as by year 4, the PS4 had cleared 76 million units.
Re: Sony: The Future Is Incredibly Bright for PlayStation
@get2sammyb I think you're being optimistic if you think that the PS5 can emulate the PS3's zany architecture with any kind of decent performance. I mean, look at the specs needed for RPCS3. The poor Tub o' Lard would melt! (might look better though...)
Perhaps we'll see something with the PS6 (even number PlayStations tend to be better) and finally it might have the raw horsepower required.
Re: Fans Positively Review Bomb Hi-Fi Rush in Wake of Xbox’s Closure of Tango Gameworks
@Colt22 Without Japan Studio, we lost "Everybody's Golf" which is enough of a tragedy for me. Didn't quite gel with Gravity Rush on the Vita so no, I didn't buy GR2.
I have Motorstorm 1, 2 and 3 on the PS3 and Arctic Edge on the PSP/Vita. I think Motorstorm Pacific Rift sold quite well, hence Apocalypse being green lit.
Driveclub's difficult birth (it wasn't ready when Sony demanded it got released) was the one title that killed Evolution, even though it evolved in the Studio's death throes into a fine title. Trouble is, we'll never get Evolution back and so those titles are probably consigned to history.
Re: Fans Positively Review Bomb Hi-Fi Rush in Wake of Xbox’s Closure of Tango Gameworks
Sad when any creative game company gets stabbed in the back but this is far from being a M$ only problem of course.
Japan Studio - the ubiquitous Everybody's Golf is not appearing on a Sony console for the first time in its history.
Evolution - they finally got Driveclub in a good place but no MotorStorm going forwards?
Psygnosis/Studio Liverpool - Wipeout anyone? No, they were wiped out...
Re: Tipsy Microsoft Exec Once Attempted to Steal LittleBigPlanet from Sony
@Robocod Well they could really do with something; MM uploaded all their textures, objects, etc. to the LBP3 PS4 server at the start of the year and then only recently, Sony shut down said PS4 server due to unspecified issues with no indication about it ever coming back!