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@darylb24 I think if any more proof was needed, it's that PlayStation don't care about Japan any more.
Unfortunately, they seem to be an American company who are only catering to Americans and they are the only region to not have any price rises.

I just hope Nintendo come out with a corker of a "Switch 2" to shake up the console market.

@LifeGirl Only the PS1 version using some emulation is available on the PSN.
I'm hoping beyond hope that this is Worms 2: Armageddon from the PS3.

There were several updated weapons in the Amiga Director's Cut edition (Super Sheep, Sheep on a Rope, Buffalo Of Lies and the Holy Hand Grenade) but most of these were incorporated in the PS3 Worms 2: Armageddon, as well as the Open Warfare titles on the PSP.

Hopefully the Japanese will realise that their PS4/Pro models play 90% of the games and vote with their wallets.

New Sony just get worse and worse...

@naruball True but I think there is a definite market for a new PSP (keep the name simple, everyone knows what it is).
The problem is that Sony's multi-million dollar productions these days would not transfer onto a handheld easily. It was easier in the PS2 & PS3 days but maybe taking PS4 code would be a decent start for a next-gen handheld.
Unfortunately, I could see New Sony 'doing a Vita' and abandoning it should the PS6 be a success.

Still got my PSP 3000 and slim Vita. If the PS5 sales are slowing up, maybe Sony want to look at the situation again.

The amount of positive messaging surrounding a PSP 3 (Vita was 2) was absolutely massive. The amount of disappointment when it turned out to be a PS5 viewer was equally as massive.

We want a PSP 3 - whether Sony give us one, that's one for the bean counters to crunch but I'm sure Cerny could knock one up.
As an aside, indies love handhelds (3DS, PSP, Vita, Switch) so you may well get an increase in decent, fun oddball titles.

PS4 Pro had a point - 4K visuals.

I'm barely starting up my PS5 Tub o' Lard at the moment - Dragon's Dogma 2 was a total let down, so perhaps Dragon Age will redeem the RPG genre on the PS5?

At the moment, I'm playing Diablo 4 on an SSD-equipped, quiet PS4 Pro and from the lovely UI to the quick loading times, I feel like the PS5 is just a waste of £500 so I'm certainly not going to drop £600 on a souped up version of such disappointment. I mean apart from fixing the obvious weaknesses in the 5's hardware, what's it going to do? 8K visuals? No-one cares. 4K @ 60fps? Shouldn't the current one be capable of that? The 4 Pro was kicking 4K chequerboard visuals at 30fps, sometimes higher so why is the 5 having such trouble?

Bring on the PS6....

Never signed up for it, never cared. Would rather save money buying physical copies of games anyway..

@dschons Sony seems to communicate even less since Herman took over, if that's possible.
I mean, even Jimbob used to turn up occasionally, make an inappropriate comment, before bogging off back into the undergrowth.

Sigh, I miss the Layden/House/Tretton days...

Who keeps buying Minecraft and Mario Kart 8 on the Switch? Everyone must have a copy by now?!?!?

Will try it on Extra but physical copy might be bought for the Switch.

Black Desert looked amazing put played reallly, really badly.
At least it looks like the character can walk in this demo, rather than running everywhere!

Given it's on the Switch, I'm surprised it's not on the PS4 too - family friendly title for those on a budget. Maybe the devs only had the new kits?

Still, my Extra runs out in December so I'll boot up the Tub o' Lard for once and give this a go.

Starfield was supposed to be coming to PS until the M$ buyout.

Maybe they've dusted off the source code and started work on it again? I'd be surprised if Forza goes multi-platform.

No money off the DS5s?
Still, I suppose some people will be forced to buy another one when the inevitable drifting starts so more money for Sony!

Still find myself using the still-quiet Pro far more than the dreary £500 doorstop. Nicer controllers, nicer UI and with an internal SSD, load times aren't a concern.
I'd like to like the PS5 but there''s something almost a bit 'Apple-y' about it.

New PSP? I'd be all over that.
Portal? Really can't be bothered.

@anon_pel222 Some do, ESO being a classic case in point - there were some nerfs and buffs a few years ago which included Wood Elves going from being excellent at thievery and sneaking to wandering around in a fluorescent jacket and honking clown shoes overnight, ruining some player characters forever, all due to some whinging sorcerers being taken out by bow wielding Bosmer.

Hopefully Arrowhead will eventually leave well alone but such is the pain of any live service game where the rules and balance (or lack of) can be altered at the studio's whim.

Been waiting for a physical release - not too long now!

Thing is, Sony were recently selling the PS5 disc version for about £400 - so was that not sustainable or were they just offloading the old fatties before the new slightly slimmer fatties came in?

@x3King84 @Matthewnh I don't think it's developers being obliged to make PS4 versions, they're thinking of profits and if the old one is still capable of running a game, why not? Even if every PS5 owner has sold/retired their PS4, there are as many PS4s out there as PS5s and if they can sell it on the old platforms then they'll do it. Some studios can only prioritise one platform and it makes sense to aim for the PS5 going forwards but for the others, the PS4 will still be a thing for the next year or two. The Star Wars Jedi: Survivor announcement is one such case - no need for it but potential profits talk. Might run quite well on the Pro.

Plays quite well on the twin-stick Vita when you map the 2nd analogue stick to move the camera.
Even better, I got it as a freebie when I bought the Vita.

@SleeplessKnight That's why i bunged a 6GB/s SATA 3 SSD in my Pro for £40!

@x3King84 I have a PS3 Slim 2500 series and a PS4 Pro 7200 series and I'd be gutted if either died. I really couldn't care less about the PS5.

@Matthewnh Started at £450, rose to £480 (everywhere apart from the US for some reason), intermittent cuts down to about $430 and then the cheaper to make not-very-slim is erm, £480. Yes, it's due a price cut. Or we need the PS6.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner Not according to this
https://www.statista.com/statistics/651576/global-ps4-console-unit-sales/
That step up in 2017 tells a lot of the story.

By this time in its lifecycle, after 4 years, the PS4 had cleared 80 million units so the 5 isn't doing as well as it should.
I assume a big uptake of the 4 came with the price reduction to about £300.
Some of the PS5 failing to keep up with its dad is its high price (when 90% of games are available on the PS4) but also, bar a few titles, the PS5 just still doesn't have a system seller and, thanks to backwards compatibility, its sales so far have been on the shoulders of the 4.
While it's true that GTA6 will push the sales up a bit, the 5 is struggling to a certain extent when it's up against the still enduring popularity of the PS4.

Before the PS3 store dies, I'll do a full system backup, just in case. Also, there's a reason why I have about 20 PS3 discs near the old stager.
I was sad when my fat 60GB unit died after about 5.5 years but I have to say the 25xx series Slim has been faultless ever since.

@xDD90x You need to go back a generation or two to the original Amiga version (just called Stardust) which had a fabulous wormhole section which Housemarque didn't keep in the PS versions for some reason.

Should have ported Delta from the Vita...

I already have The Skywalker Saga and to be honest, it's very boring as you have no idea where you're headed most of the time.

It's not a patch on the PS2, PSP, Vita and PS3 LEGO Star Wars versions...

Wish that Tracks on the Switch had been ported to the PS4/5.

PS4 has had update 11.52 too - message changes and security improvements, according to the notes.

One of these days, I keep hoping the PS5 will get a full-feature PS4 UI update. No sign of it yet on the miserable thing.

Current one has been a waste of £500 - not going to be dropping another £500+ on a console with zero exclusives worth playing. I miss the old Sony and PS devs.

@NEStalgia Even the SSD is a bit of a hard sell if you had a PS4 Pro and upgraded the internal drive to an SSD. SATA 3 has max throughput of 6GB/s which is faster than the PS5 SSD in uncompressed mode (5.5GB/s, which might be one of the reasons why my Pro seems quicker downloading PS4 titles than the 5?).

@rjejr I think Brexit can be blamed for most problems in the UK, unfortunately.

Consoles have always been built to a price. However, with the Tub o' Lard, I'm getting the impression that Cerny went a bit over the top in what he wanted to create and the bean counters then came along and made it cheaper.
I mean the DriftSense (thanks for the term @nomither6) seems to be made out of the cheapest plastics and the number of replacements/repairs because of drifting sticks and broken triggers seems to be off the scale - certainly way more than any generation of DualShock. Yes, they broke eventually after a LOT of punishment, whereas the DS5 seems to break as soon as you look at it,

Sony peaked at the PS3/PS4 era and then it seems to have stagnated.

@wiiware Even the PS4 Pro regularly reduced to about £300.

Switch decline was expected as everyone that wanted one has got one and the next gen box is just over the horizon.
XBox - well, what can you say? Shot themselves in the PS4 era and keep doing it over and over again.

Sony are just profiteering - entire point of the not-very-Slim is that it was supposed to be cheaper to manufacture. They haven't even reduced the price of the PS4, it's still at £260. That should be down to £200 by now, with a free game.unless doing that will hurt fatty sales?

@rjejr Let's not forget, Fony INCREASED the price of the PS5 by £30 for everyone except you 'mercains.

@Paranoimia My Pro has a 6Gb/s 1TB SSD inside so the generational leap has been more like a stumble to me.

Think I'll keep playing it on my PSP or Vita, thanks, as it's loaded and ready to go on holiday!

Never understood the fascination with trophies...

@LikelySatan I think they should've called the PS5 the MiseryStation - from its lacklustre games catalogue to the miserable UI.

Isn't Flintlock on the PS4 as well?

Tools of Destruction is the highlight in the R&C series, not Rift Apart.

Anyway, I'm just loading up the Vita's memory cards ready for going on holiday, and this (with its right stick support) is already downloaded! Also, Motorstorm Arctic Edge.is ready to go too.

@rusty82 Yes, sorry, I bought BG:DA on its release day, not the PS2's release day (mine was the GT3 pack about a year or so after launch which is how long I leave it to buy all my PlayStations over the years)

@get2sammyb I bought a copy of Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance on the PS2 on launch day from Game. I had to go back about an hour later to buy another memory card as my other didn't have enough space on them!

Got R&C: Size Matters on the PSP (& Vita with mapped right stick!)

Only other one of interest to me is Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous but again, I've already got it.

If Sony did a lower tier of PS+ with only online play and save game backups ('cos they don't allow PS5 saves to go to a USB stick for some reason - $$$) then I'd sign up for that.
I'll be dropping to Essential in December as Extra (which I've had for about 18 months) and Premium, in my eyes, are not worth paying Sony over £100 for a year's game rental.

Sure, it was useful when you used to get PS3, PS4 and PS Vita games as part of the sub, but these days, a few questionable PS4 titles and a PS5 remake of a remake of a remaster and the whole 'free' games option seems a bit overpriced.
Money off a game or add-on for being a PS+ subscriber is something I've made use of but only if I can't obtain the same thing physically for an even lower price.

What a crazy design! I mean, it can sit on its side without a naff stand underneath one end!

Some PS designs have been a little odd but cool, whereas the PS5 is just an eyesore even after 4 years - here's hoping the PS6 will be a better looking piece of kit.

Only really looking at Dragon Age and Star Wars Outlaws.

Astrobot looks OK but the free tech demo thing with the Tub o' Lard didn't interest me much.
Still think it's myopic to not release Lego Horizon on the PS4 - can't imagine it's pushing the hardware that much if the Switch can run it?

@GymratAmarillo @Malaise Yep, Circuit Superstars is definitely worth a look - sort of a modern day Super Skidmarks (without the cow)

Even has an official Stig time trial of the Top Gear circuit.

Got 'Among Us' for about £4 - barely played it.
American ice hockey? No thanks.
Might download 'Borderlands 3'. Think I played the original many, many years ago? Clearly didn't make an impression.

@__jamiie I've just got a 1TB external drive plugged in which has PS4 games on.

What I can't fathom is the amount of space that the PS5 uses for 'Other' (for 'system data so games can run correctly', etc. apparently) which is currently chewing up 23.03GB but apparently this can change depending on what the console is doing? I'm assuming that this is Windows-esque swap space (for Unix, obviously)?

@Member_the_game Saw a trailer for Sociable Soccer only the other week, and when it went into bird's eye, top down view....!

Nothing can do quarter pixel scrolling at speed like the Amiga but this looks to be the next best thing!

Was one of the reasons I got a PS5 but Dragon's Dogma 2 has been a let down due to its sub-PS4 graphics, lurching controls and constantly shouting NPCs and pawns. I doubt some extra PS5 performance will fix that.