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From these improvements, it is clear that the game wasn't ready for release when it got released.

Brexit broke Britain - simple as.

I've said before - PS4 Pro had a purpose to give something to gamers who'd upgraded to a 4K TV. Even those who hadn't bothered upgrading their telly benefitted from reduced jaggies, better performance and slightly quicker load times (SATA 3 interface was on board instead of the old SATA 2 - bung a decent SSD in the HDD slot and you really were laughing!)

Nothing that I've seen on my PS5 has blown my socks off with most of it looking like it was designed as a PS4 game. Probably because most of it was.

But here's the kicker - like the PS4 Pro, you had enhanced versions of games that also had to run on the base PS4. The Pro could have been so much more had it been freed from the shackles of the base unit but at the end of the day, it's the supercharged PS4.

In a similar way, the PS5 Pro will suffer from the same problem. Only the PS6 can free us from the base PS5 problems so I say roll on the PS6. Hopefully someone who has been to SpecSavers might design the case this time...

Gameloft Free Arcade Racer = microtransaction hell

@Flaming_Kaiser I was meaning on PS4 games - something's wrong with the rumble emulation.
Regardless, I still think the DS4 is ergonomically and aesthetically better. There's something a bit 'claw hands' about the DS5 and the boring Apple colour schemes are so off.

My PS5 is barely getting used due to the lack of platform exclusives. My PS4 Pro is getting used far more often (more comfortable controllers, actual rumble rather than random buzzing, etc.)

Thing is, the PS4 Pro had a point - 4K TVs - and thereby running at 4K checkerboard and the ability to super-sample back to 1080p, reducing jaggies, etc.

Apparently the 'base' PS5 has the ability to output 8K visuals (no-one has an 8K TV so it's pointless) but it appears to be struggling to outpace its dad half the time with 4K checkerboard at 30fps?
Does this mean the PS5 is underpowered? Probably not but it doesn't seem to be as much of a quantum leap as we'd hoped for.
Is there a case for a Pro? Not really, though it could be argued is that the Pro is the PS5 we should've got in the first place if it gives us a significant update over the PS4 Pro.

@charbtronic I think the base game (which by now includes a couple of expansion packs?) is about a fiver so not going to break the bank.
It is an MMO but you can play it as a single player RPG, only ganging up with anyone else to take on the Dungeons (if you want) and there's Cyrodiil in the middle which is PvP and also can be ignored unless PvP is your bag. As it is Online, you will need an active PS+ subscription but there''s no sub required by the game to play it.

As @NEStalgia says, it plays more like Oblivion. I also have found FF XIV to be incomprehensible, no idea where I was going and no idea what I was doing, whereas ESO is fun and some days you can just wander around looking for treasure or gathering crafting resources and looking at the pretty scenery.

Skyrim bored me senseless. Seemed like a real step-down from Oblivion, and that's before we mention the catastrophic PS3 launch.

Still enjoying ESO but I'd love a return to an Oblivion-esque single-player adventure.

Hopefully we might get an action RPG (think Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance) in the same world.

A Jim Ryan punchbag or dartboard would sell loads....

If it had even a steady 30fps, I'd be all over this but a wildly varying uncapped fps is just unforgivable, all for PS4 Pro level checkerboarded 4K visuals? This should be an all-time epic, and it probably will be, but at the moment, it's a sign of how the PS5 isn't a panacea for all. Even the XSX apparently has a better frame rate - maybe those teraflops count.

Looks like a total waste of time - add folders and themes, and then by all means show the game art if you hover over an icon INSIDE a folder. Job done.
And also, get rid of that funereal music!

Loved the first one, played it a LOT - and it killed my fat 60GB PS3.
Bought a reconditioned fat PS3 and continued playing it - and it killed that fat 60GB PS3.

Played it a bit on the PS4 - the PS4 is still alive and kicking but the game was looking rough by then.

Despite the cries of 'only 60fps is good enough!' I'd rather they lock in a rock solid 30fps mode and have done - varying frame rates will cause more wailing and gnashing of teeth and drag us back to the overloaded PS3 days.

An even more powerful console to play no PS5 games on.

They might as well resurrect the PS4 Pro with an internal SSD and have done.

Dropping to Essential when mine runs out in December - and that's only because of ESO.

The original ones were quite funny - Mr Cheese, The Gentleman, Captain, PoopyFarts 96, Player and so on.

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PSVR2 : Vita says 'hi!'

@NeonPizza I just find the DS5 somewhat uncomfortable and the 'haptics' seem like nothing new. Also, the chopped off ends to the hand grips irritates me as well (it's an aesthetic thing!)

If they could fix the PS4 rumble compatibility then that would be helpful but I've now seen several games where the PS4 rumble isn't mimicked correctly - you either get nothing or some constant buzzing.

@GamingFan4Lyf Yes, it's actually a £30 discount (unless you live in Playstation's new home country, the USA, of course, which had no price rise whatsoever...)

@belmont @nomither6 Weird thing is that's a facility that they have copied over to the PS5 OS - but still only for PS4 saves! Bonkers...

@NeonPizza Didn't the DS3 & DS4 also have gyros?

In my experience, a Pro with quick SSD inside (e.g. Crucial MX500) is barely a few seconds behind the PS5 for load times? Just enough time for a quick swig of a cuppa.

@nomither6 "Can fit in your home" - absolute classic!

@GloriosaDaisy Crikey, I thought you were joking but yes, my PS3 is now getting updated to firmware 4.91!

Ubisoft - the company that refused to green-light 'Fenyx 2'.

Definitely dropping down to Essential at most - might even just let it lapse in December.

PS4 - the most stable console in the universe!

Keep going, old stager, at this rate you'll outlast the PS5!

Looks like the PS4 has just had a new firmware drop - 11.50.

@Aladin_Run PS4-style folders, on the main screen of the dashboard. Not those Game List things which are hidden away in the Game Library (I think - the UI is a mess)?

@WafflingHearts The download speed is quicker for PS5 games and so on as the data is compressed and Kraken unpacks at the other end but PS4 games, updates and so on are much slower than my Pro (with internal SSD) can manage.

@belmont You forgot to mention 'total inability to download 2 things at once'.
I know that the PS4 had a dedicated custom chip but surely the Tub o' Lard could use a couple of it's underused cores to perform a similar function? Everything ends up 'queued' while the 4 gets on with downloading up to about 5 things at once and at a faster speed than the 5?

It's truly a horrible OS and UI and it doesn't seem to be getting any better.

Have they fixed the total lack of a hop backwards control for the new controller method?

No folders, no themes, no interest. Roll on the PS6, maybe it might be slightly less vile to use and behold.

I remember getting a headache trying to work out what the **** was going on on Ancipital!

Ahh, tape decks! And people moan today about loading times! Hah!

PS4 still out-gunning the Series X and S - that's gotta hurt.

Some say that he's opened his own AAA studio despite all the recent closures and that he has a giant skull - all we know is, he's called The Stig!

Spend a LOT of time in the character creation screen for any game that allows it so I'm in!

A stable 30fps would be much more welcome than some stuttering variable nonsense.

And is 30fps really that bad? Did our eyes bleed in the PS1 to PS3 generations?
I agree 60fps would be better but not if the graphics suffer too much. It's also a bit odd that the PS4 Pro could chuck around 4K(ish) visuals at 30fps and the PS5 can't do better?

@LieutenantFatman Vita version needed a font size increase!

@Northern_munkey Sorry, it's my 7216 series PS4 Pro. I changed the mechanical hard drive to a Crucial MX500 1TB SSD some time ago. Total transformation in load times.

@Ephexis83 Agree. If MM had released Tren with a track creator, that would've flown off the shelves.

Hope MM can come back with a LittleBigPlanet 4 (with Stephen Fry's voice, obviously). If Sony shuts them, I think they'd set up as an independent which would leave them open to M$ buying them out.

PS5 (perhaps I should rename the Tub o' Lard to just White Elephant) is gathering dust in my spare room unless my son plays Dreams (a PS4 title) on it. Our PS3 still gets more use than the 5.

SSD Pro is still downstairs with its more comfortable controllers, much nicer UI and it's running all the games I play fine. Being a 7200 series, even the fan is quiet.

This is the problem - I should be all over that new console but apart from a handful of titles, it's been the biggest waste of £500 I've ever spent.

Origins was an epic. DA2 less so, but Inquisition raised the bar again. This looks to be a continuation of the 3rd one so I'm up for this! PS5 might have 2 games worth buying this year - wooo.

"where you make your own character"

OK, I'm interested.

@Nem Yes, formed from the ashes of Studio Liverpool/Psygnosis after Sony shuttered them.
Weird thing is, since then, they've produced nothing of any importance apart from a Horizon tech demo for PSVR2 andd that was half done by Guerilla.

We hoped for Wipeout or even Motorstorm reboots but they don't seem to be capable or given a break to actually release anything? I wonder if the people with talent have left?

"We bet it'll look like F1"

I bet that the PS5 version will look identical to the PS4 version running on a Pro - all the others have! Only difference is that the kerb rumble will work on the PS4.

Control was one of the best games in the PS4 era - polished, visually stunning, disturbing and intriguing at the same time - so will be interesting to see what number 2 brings to the table.

@Robocod Have to agree - Resistance, Motorstorm, Modnation Racers & Little Big Planet 1 & 2 shouldn't be stuck on the PS3.

Obviously with the demise of Evolution and United Front Games, those middle two might be more tricky but I'm sure someone could do a decent port? Or, crazy thought, resurrect Driveclub?

It's all about the profit margin with Sony these days, it seems. PS5 isn't going to sell as many as they thought (about 4 million units down) and so profits are down - bear in mind that's PROFITS - and so to protect that profit margin for the shareholders, the workers take the hit.
Suppose they need to get Jim Ryan's golden-handshake from somewhere. The guy's been such an inspiration (on how not to be a good CEO)

Good luck to all those affected, hope they find something soon though the way the industry is going, where's safe?

@Shushibda We had the same decision to make when we got one for my son for Christmas.
We eventually plumped for the VS, the TV console, as we can play multi-player and you can load in 2 cartridges in at the same time which can unlock some hidden games (e.g. Team 17 collection + Worms collection unlocks Worms: The Director's Cut)

@Robocod I'm just hoping that whoever replaces Jim Ryan will keep us in the loop for emulation, remaster (PS2/PS3 to PS4 was and is valid) and new/rebooted releases & IPs.
We need a Layden-type back in the mix.

@Robocod I don't think it was that they couldn't be bothered, it's just that neither the PS4 or PS5 has the necessary grunt to emulate the Cell architecture without melting. Push/pop architecture vs distributed processing needs a LOT of horsepower.
Given the PC spec needed to run RPCS3, I think we're at least a generation off.

LBP and ModNation Racers were the epitome of PS at its creative best.
We need those games back. MM are still around (somehow!) and although United Front games may have gone, San Diego Studios worked on the original ModNation (and its Vita sequel) so we still have some experience in PS Studios.

By the way, wasn't it announced recently that all the LBP 1 & 2 objects, textures and so on are now in LBP 3?
@Ichiban LBP 4 - the Souls-a-like edition. Dear lord, no!