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Best R&C game was Tools of Destruction on the PS3.

@Nakatomi_Uk 'Cos Evolution are long gone, unfortunately, and current Sony are incompetent.

OnRush was the last I heard of Codemasters Evo (they were bought out) but as Sony owns the DriveClub IP (same for Motorstorm) these titles are likely to be stuck in limbo.

Let's hope they look through their back catalogue and come across dusty plans for a sequel to Rayman and Fenyx Rising...

@OldGamer999 Sony stipulated that all PS4 games should support (where applicable) enhanced features (usually resolution or frame-rate) on the PS4 Pro.

Not seen any such stipulation for the 5 Pro?

Cross gen titles are going to be fun going forwards with PS4 base/PS4 Pro/PS5 and now PS5 Pro levels of game look and feel!

"is a PS5 Pro just what you need to dive into your PS4 backlog?"

Nope, just need a decent PS4 - the not-overpriced Pro if you can get one.
Seriously, the amateur PS5 is becoming more irrelevant with every announcement New Sony makes...

"the platform holder is targeting a big PS5 push this holiday season, with new accessory colours and first-party games inbound"

Like what? A PS4 remaster that wasn't needed and looks worse than the original?
As for the plates not being available for the OG Tub o' Lard is just new Fony Sony expecting everyone to distch their originals and buy a slim. Personally, I bought some black Mcbazel plates so I can hide the ugly monstrosity away,

@SamMR At the current rate, the PS4 might outlast the PS5. How funny would that be?

Dragon Age is the only PS5 title I'm interested in (loved Origins and Inquisitor, less so DA:2) If that's a bust, I might sell the Tub o' Lard and start saving for a Switch 2 or PS6.

Other than that, I've got to wait until 21st November for Sociable Soccer 25 on the PS4.

Nothing to report.
What we'd like to see is San Diego studios doing something with the ModNation Racers IP as they must have the Road Trip source code on a server somewhere! That said, we'd need Sony to host a server for it and, as LBP has proven, they can't be arsed.

I think Fenyx 2 would've sold better but what do I know?

Shame nobody in Japan is buying a standard PS5, never mind being bothered about the hiked up models.

Personally, I bought some shaped-inline-with-the-inner-black of the PS5 mcbazel covers as I want to hide the overweight Tub o' Lard.

Nice to know that people still like Playstation controllers with coloured buttons though just like every PS model before the dreary 5.

@Kidfunkadelic83 Perhaps Xbox should change their name to CrossBox - they often seem quite angry!

All I can add is thank god for the PS4.

@lindos That's why I bought the Roku - no ads on that and a simple, easy to use UI. Maybe the PS4 of the streaming world?

@Meowmixes98 And yet the old stager downloads about 5 things at once without batting an eyelid. My PS4 Pro with SSD definitely seems to download games & patches faster than the 5?

So that's why Fony binned the excellent PS4 UI and replaced it with that turd. More and more ads, more store recommendations, etc. (i.e. give us all your money!)

Sorry Fony, but I'm not falling for it - you really have descended to a new low.

Still struggling to see the value in the base PS5 over the PS4 Pro at the moment, so I'm not going to drop £800 on a console with another little improvement.

Let me know when the PS6 and its exclusives gets announced. Meantime, I'm more interested in what will be announced as Switch 2.

It's that big to house all the unsold PS5s.

Was it The Gadget Show where they proved that playing Flower reduced your heart rate and calmed you down?

@Americansamurai1 Yes, that what I mean. American Fony's greed has just alienated the user base. They're on course to become as popular as Microsoft in the region.
With no PSP/Vita successor, they might as well call it quits.

This is Japan flicking two fingers at the once-Japanese company.

Well done Fony, you've handed your supposed homeland 100% over to Nintendo.

Can't remember if I bought it for cheap or got it for free in Covid times? Not played it that much, not my particular cup of tea.

Don't know why they didn't use Worms 2: Armageddon (PS3) which was probably the best of the lot.
Press X to action, square to jump, circle to bring up weapons - not that difficult is it?

@ecurb7 Oh, I've got a PS5, one of the 1216 (last of the true fatties) models that I got last year. (bundled DS5 started to drift and got replaced - so far so good on the other one).

TBH, though, it's been a big disappointment and using the PS4 Pro with a 6GB/s SSD it just doesn't feel that different (apart form a much worse UI on the misery 5).
Sure, some 60fps upgrades are welcome but Sony's lacklustre release schedule (remasters, remasters and MORE remasters) I can see the point of people who can't be bothered to move to the 5 and a cheap replacement SSD is more affordable if you find load times too long.

If Sony actually produced some next gen titles that would make the PS4 wheeze, I'd probably feel more engaged with it but releasing 'shinier' versions of games I've already played is doing nothing to help.

@ecurb7 That's the speed difference between a mechanical HDD and an SSD.
Similar complaints were made about HZD but I found only a few seconds difference from the reported load times on my SSD Pro.

Jedi Survivor would probably take about 20-30 secs on a Pro with internal SSD. A £40 upgrade made a LOT of difference to mine.

"It’s hypothesised the UK price will be £449.99" - nah, it'll be £499.99 over here as New Sony hates anyone outside of the US.

Did we ever get a price reduction back to £450 for the disc-ed one due to the exchange rates levelling up? Didn't think so...

After the disappointment of DD2, this is the only next gen game I'm looking forward to,
If this turns out to be turkey, think I'll just flog the Tub o' Lard and go back to my trusty PS4 Pro and will wait and see what the PS6 actually offers, not buying based on assumptions of new games again.

Only a 3rd party title is of interest on that list and that's Dragon Age: The Veilguard.
Such a drop in creativity from the PS3/4 days.

Oh well, at least it'll jog my memory for games I have on the PS4 backlog.

PS4. 4 The Players.

Of course it won't run it nearly as well as the PS5, what were they thinking....? Oh wait.
In all seriousness, The XBoneX and Pro look fab - don't get all the dissing. Bet a Pro with SSD would shred that 2 minute load time too.

Remember playing Epic Mickey: The Power Of Two on PS3 which I seem to remember was a 2 player game with Mickey and Oswald - seems like this is a step back?

"63 Days (PS5, PS3)"

Yeah, warm up the Cell and fire up the PS3!

Just pre-ordered Sociable Soccer 25 ....on disc....for the PS4.

Old school.

@Arkham24601 Shove a decent SSD in a PS4 Pro and even the loading times aren't that much of an issue either.

Thought the PS2 cleared 158 million, didn't it?

There are so many games 'trapped' on the PS3 - LBP 1 & 2 (turn the servers back on Sony, ffs!) Motorstorm inc. Pacific Rift and Apocalypse, Modnation Racers to name but a few.

Remasters of PS3 games to PS4 was fine because of the hardware differences but porting PS4 games to the overpriced PS4.5 Pro(ish) is just pathetic.

Been a long time since I said it, but I am seriously considering supporting Nintendo with my pounds sterling if the Switch 2 is good enough.

Despite wrapping it in the classic colours, the PS5 still looks like an ugly turd.

Retro box art looks nice though.

Inquisition is great - and the GOTY being available on the store for about a fiver on some occasions, it's ludicrous value for money these days.

One of those strange cross-platform/generation games, being on the PS3 and PS4. PS4 version was so much better as the PS3 version was s-l-o-w. DA2 was fairly forgettable, whereas DA; Origins was epic (for it's time)

The 'sale' prices are still way more expensive than a physical edition from a raft of well-known, on-line retailers.

@Th3solution And yet what we're waiting for is LBP 1 & 2, Motorstorm, WipeOut, Modnation Racers....

Perhaps it'll have a ray tracing mode that will drop the fps to sub-PS4 levels. Wonder if Aloy will get that god-awful 'just eaten Ready Brek' glow round her again?

This generation sucks on a level I didn't think I'd see. PS3 to PS4 remasters was warranted due to hardware issues but this just sucks.

@Bez87 @BlaizeV I think it's likely that the dev team don't have the resources to support the PS5 and the PS4 (and Pro enhancements).
However, given that this is on the Switch, a port to PS4 would make sense. In fact, I'd go so far to say that I'm surprised it wasn't just a PS4 game with Pro + 5 enhancements.

The PS3 to PS4 generation was so different as the architecture of the PS3 was so wacky and the PS4 was an x64 PC architecture. There was no point trying to cross-gen some titles, LBP 3 being one of the few exceptions, a game which the Plucky Squire reminds me of.
With the PS4 shifting 1 million units on its first day (and M$ shooting themselves in the foot over the XBone) it was obviously going to be a very successful console and so the PS3 was left behind as PC code became easy to port. Despite the nay-sayers, the PS4 and PS5 aren't that dissimilar so x64 Unix code to x64 Unix code and similar SDKs allows a level of cross gen development not seen before.

@Sacrosanctus I think Guerrilla Games are going with the idea that the PS4 doesn't and never has existed. Numpties.

It's losing out on a sizeable number of extra sales. And let's face it, this was never going to be a system seller for the Tub o' Lard.

Probably fixing some things that got broken in patch 1.003. Always the way...

@Khwarezm89 They've already pushed me away - I'm dropping back to Essential in December.

Well given the state of LBP's servers (all dead) then I suppose it could go.
Either that or Sony could get their fingers out of their orifices and boot them up or transfer the content to a working server? But where are the $$$ in that, eh?

Have they added an option to restrict the amount the verbal diarrhoea blathering Pawns talk?

Still think it's bizarre that the PS4 was skipped for this, especially if the Switch can run it.

Wooo, I bet PS4 games will never have looked so good. Apart from the 4 Pro rather than either of its overpriced "successors".

Hope for a disc drive, controllers that last longer than a fruit pastille and a smaller footprint.

Not spent a single penny on this since I bought the game. Might very well get the expansion in Oct as I'm having a blast with a fire sorcerer at the moment.

Still not quite sure why D4 had to be online anyway, but I guess this answers that question. $$$