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Lowered my sub to Essential from Extra when it renews in December.

@ChimpMasta Not sure if the Slim uses any less electricity than the end-of-line fatty (1216?) as the internals are, from what I gathered, very similar apart from the 1TB storage compared to the 825GB on the Tub o' Lard.

I traded in my old Pro and, having been very disappointed with the PS5, bought a mint, end-2019 7200 series Pro (COD packaging) for £160 which is still very quiet.
Shoved a 1TB Crucial SSD inside and it still has pride of place under the TV unit in the lounge. PS5 has black plates and hides upstairs in the spare bedroom so as to not scare the locals.

@Major_Player True but they'll make their money back on the disc drives.

Well, he can afford it....

2.2 million behind PS4? That's falling further behind then? And the PS4 rocketed after that....

PS5 UI still sucks compared to PS3/4.
Personally, I'd be more impressed if they ported the Virtual Earth or the whooshing and swirling PS2 theme...

Waiting for PS6 to see if the actual upgrade will be worth it.
I find myself more interested for what Nintendo are cooking up for 'Switch 2'

@Flaming_Kaiser I think if your internal SSD (not the stick in the expansion slot) dies, you're still stuffed.
Something else the PS4 does better, who'd have thought?
I mean if the PS4 HDD/SSD dies, you're still slightly stuffed but a 1TB SSD via Amazon or similar and you're back up for about £40.

Never mind where to buy a Pro, where do you buy a disc drive?

8K - the resolution no-one wanted or cares about.

@Bobobiwan But F1 2024 looks and runs about the same as on the PS4 Pro (targetting 4k-ish visuals at 60fps) so I'm surprised you found that a selling point?

IGN: "For a lot of people, playing at 30fps isn’t necessarily a dealbreaker, and if you’re happy with that level of performance you might well be happier with a few hundred dollars still in your bank account."

Yeah, just keep playing your PS4 Pro...

Still could never work out what the Other stuff was doing to eat up all that otherwise useful space. Swap space, maybe?

Looking forward to Hot Wheels 2 - not fussed about the others.

@themightyant "unless I can sell my PS5 for a good price."

That's the trouble. I don't know about your local trade-in stores but our local CEX is swamped with PS5s, both original fatties and the newer not-quite-as-fatties, and those trade-in prices are dropping.

@Northern_munkey Don't think the PS5 has been held back that much by the PS4. The main reason it's lasted as long as it has is because of the PS5 shortages in the pandemic - I mean Sony gave the biggest signal by ordering another million PS4s to cover any console shortfall.
Going forward, we're starting to see some PS5 only titles emerge (not before time!) although so much of it seems like a PS4 title with extra shiny bits on it.
I'm not entirely convinced as to why some of them couldn't run on the PS4 albeit with lower resolution or frame rate but the devs have decided now it's viable or Sony have demanded, whatever the reason (Lego Horizon being a case in point).

I'm certainly not going anywhere near the 5 Pro but will keep an eye on the PS6. I have the old Pro which to me had a purpose but this 5 Pro just seems to be fixing all the shortcomings with the original 5 so is it the PS4 'holding back' the PS5 or is it the PS5 holding itself back?

@Robocod And check out the Related news down the right hand side!
https://www.timeextension.com/news/2024/10/worms-creator-shows-off-impressive-easter-egg-filled-red-dwarf-level

Trouble with the Amiga is the hardware and interfaces are so old-school. Fortunately our old Sony TV, normally reserved for 3 PlayStation generations and an Evercade, still has a Scart connector on the back and the A1200 connects to that without issue.
Now, how am I going to get an updated Worms over to the old beastie? I think I still have my Squirrel SCSI adapter and a CD-ROM drive (with The Chaos Engine) so I could burn a disc with the updates on or I need to find a 2nd hand floppy disc drive for the PC?

My PS4 Pro is currently rocking the official PS2 theme.

PS3 version of Worms 2: Armageddon is still the best version, with the possible exception of the original Amiga Director's Cut (which I still have in the loft alongside an A1200).

Regardless of what platforms these are coming to, it just means having an Xbox is becoming more and more pointless as time goes on.
Expect Series S to be down to ludicrously low prices again this Christmas...

Never signed up for it, still don't care.

As part of the bonsai pruning, they should've negotiated a deal with Clap Hanz to keep the Everybody's Golf franchise on the PS platform.
Another iconic title lost (now on Apple Arcade or the Nintendo Switch, ffs...)

I'm intrigued t know what the improvements are? Why does this need to exist?

@BowTiesAreCool I was worried Sammy had become hypnotised by the horror of the PS5 UI and possibly needed a bit of colour in his life!

Was interested until I saw "open world building game".

This is the only PS5-only title I'm looking at, at the moment, with a possible nod to Wayfinder 1.0 now they've canned the PS4 version.

DD2 was a disappointment and the endless wave of 1st party remasters hold no interest for me.

That door shot looks like it has bad cartoon outlines on the remaster, makes it look worse?

Anyway, an 'upgraded' version of a game I wasn't interested in first time round on a console I'm really beginning to lose faith in.

@get2sammyb You need to boot up a PS4 or PS3 with a cool theme in the background and then tell me you like the Welcome page.
The whole PS5 UI is just miserable, from the funeral music to the lack of games icons on the top (wherefore art thou, Folders?)

@Nakatomi_Uk PS4 occasionally used to get an 'advertising' widget on the dashboard but you could delete it.
Back in the day when Sony were friendly and not the money-grabbing Fony they are now, they even added a flag somewhere where you could tell it NOT to download advertising icons. No such joy with the Tub o' Lard and it's jarring UI.

@TrannosaurusBex Yes, there's a Singstar icon stuck under the Games vertical that appeared for some reason, even if you didn't own it?

@GingerAsh They keep nailing more crap onto the PS5 Ui and it's still a total car-crash compared to the PS4 (or the PS3, for that matter!)

Expect matching security/stability firmware for PS4 incoming...

So Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown officially gets lost down the back of the 'Good Ubisoft Titles That Should Get Sequels' sofa, resting next to Immortals: Fenyx Rising...

@NorrinRadd The 50 - 60 million active PS4s out there and they didn't think a cutesy Lego game would play OK on it and bring in $$$?

Of course not, this is Guerrilla Games being dictated to by their Fony overlords that the higher selling and still high active user base console should now be shunned. Must be the ray tracing light blinding them...

I thought the reason was Sony could sell a £50 Blu-ray drive and a cheap bit of plastic casing for £100?

Switch can run it but the PS4 can't...? Still not heard an excuse for that one.

OK, I'm confused - all the blurb seems to mention PS5 and Steam but the PS4 version seems to be skated over yet the game is out on it. Is the PS4 getting 1.0 too?

EDIT: Doesn't look like it - so why is it still on the PS4 store?
" PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 5 users, meanwhile, will have access to the current version until the Echoes update is released. At that time, according to Airship Syndicate, only the PlayStation 5 version will be supported."

Looks like I need to dust off those DS5s.

Minecraft (PS5) - ffs....

@Gooseman42 Yes, it does seem weird not being on the PS4 as well, especially given the target audience.

If TT were behind it, I suspect it would be on the old stager too but as it's Guerrilla "Wot's a PS4?" Games, they have to push the Tub o' Lard at all times as their Fony Overlords dictate to them.

@Kraven Recent Star Wars game wasn't up the standards of the PS2/3 and PSP/Vita games.
Looked slick but just somehow wasn't fun..?

Looks like a Fallout game should be! Wonder if it'll feature a VATS style system?

On another note, interesting that the PS4 is still getting releases well into 2025. That beast is never going to be retired...

@LowDefAl @Mikey856 The PS4 Pro uses super sampling so it's not a new invention - just more advanced on the PS5 Pro.
The PS4 Pro, when connected to a 1080p display and super sampling is selected in the settings, renders screens at 4K and then scales it properly onto a 1080p display and thereby you reduce jaggies and other graphical artifacts.

Been enjoying it, more so since they fixed the horrendous mob screeching/static sound (not by design!) when encountering very large mobs on the PS4 (XBone suffered from the same problem apparently).
Anyway, one recent fix later and it's playing really well.

One criticism: Every 10 feet in the jungle you encounter another large mob and every mob has a waller or mortar or freezing leader. Can get a bit monotonous?
Also, can't help thinking that the base game was more interesting (comes to something when you miss Lilith creeping around the place) & the variety of locations in the main game is better - so far it seems to be swamp, jungle, swamp, jungle...

Looks great and just goes to show what can be done with an AA(?) release.

4 years on and STILL the PS5's UI is a a sack of garbage compared to the PS4.

Why, Fony, why? Oh, it's so you can advertise more crap on the Store. It's all about the (USA) $$$$s.

@riceNpea We're clearly missing Stephen Fry narrating LBP to educate the masses.

@riceNpea Flippin' colonials, eh! 😂

Still, I reserve my main hatred for those, and they appear to be mostly Brits, who mispronounce "aitch" (H) as "haitch". First up against the wall when the revolution comes...

Crikey, PS needs him back more than ever.

Bet LBP wouldn't have been shuttered under his watch.

@Flaming_Kaiser Don't have a problem with the 5 Pro - if people have the money and can justify it to themselves, then by all means go for it.

Seems a bit odd that Sony are having to release a console to counter all the short-comings in the original.
PS4 Pro had a point (4K display) but this?

Personally, and this is maybe just my view, I have a problem with the PS5 - it just isn't living up to expectations. Hardware-wise it's fine (if fat) but the games coming out seem very 'vanilla' compared to the PS3 & PS4 era (bar a handful of exceptions) and the amount of remakes/remasters of PS4 titles is just plain irritating while some PS3 titles that we want languish on the old hardware with dead servers.

Games have been released in a dubious state from back in the PS3 and PS4 days with Day 1 patches being mandatory so having even more to patch/overwrite on the PS5 is sort of expected these days. It does make me question how any game can reach a state to go gold when what is burned on the disc is knowingly broken.

i think a lot of people forget that the PS4 Pro even running on a 1080p display offered improvements, mainly due to its super-sampling option which effectively rendered a 4K image before squashing it down to 1080p , reducing 'jaggies' (smoothing edges) in the process. That and it had a boost mode - anyone would think that was a PS5 Pro only feature.

Personally, with a 72xx series PS4 Pro with a fast SSD inside it, and given the monotonous/remastered games plopping out on the PS5, I find less of a reason to use the newer (I would say better but...) console over the old one.

Wait a month and buy a disc from various retailers for £10-20 less than the ridiculous store price.
Simple, really.