@Voltan Hahaha. The trailer was pretty much just remixed SM2 gameplay with a bit of dev tinkering, skins. In a sense they were looking at a finished game, just one that's already been released. You'd think the 'concept' part would give it away.
I would love the behind the scenes of what happened here, it seems like a sure-fire hit if Insombian were behind the wheel, or at least another dev using their framework, mechanics etc.
All I can imagine (and hope) is that maybe there were overlaps between the ideas in this project and another Spidey game in the works, making the development of both redundant.
The rumoured Spider-Verse game from Insomniac would be a natural fit for co-op, and having just seen the leaked concept trailer for The Great Web, it all felt very Spider-verse esque what with the dimension jumping, spider-noir sequences etc. To be honest, I think I'd prefer that art style for a co-op Spider game - would help differentiate it from the mainline series.
Fingers crossed that's what's happening.
EDIT: Realised I typed 'Insombian' instead of 'Insomniac', went to edit, decided I preferred 'Insombian'.
@lankieBD I'm gutted i didn't bite the bullet when it first went up like you did. It does leave a bad taste in my mouth, especially when Helldivers 2 just launched for less money.
The pre-order was initially £32.99 on the PlayStation store, but was soon jacked up to £39.99. Cheeky, I wonder if they saw the numbers and figured they could milk it.
I managed to snag a physical copy from Argos, really looking forward to picking it up and playing it on Monday. Helldivers was one of my favourite PS4 games so my expectations are strong.
I'd like.a physical PS5 UK release if possible. They only seemed to make 5 copies and sold them through playstation direct (long gone by now of-course).
My hype is through the roof. Ever since that digital foundry video I've been eager to replay this in 60fps, I just never thought it would happen.
Gravity Rush 2 is easily one of my top 5 games of the last gen. The moment-to-moment gameplay is unlike anything else in the 3rd person action genre, it's very refreshing, and the world is a wonder to explore: So beautiful, cosy and mysterious. If I were to live in any video game world it would be Hekesville.
I really hope more people take the opportunity to play it, maybe then we might even get a sequel, though won't dare to dream.
Like many here I was never chomping at the bit for Sony's big live service push, but somehow it now seems we've lost all the most exciting live service projects (The Last of Us, Twisted Metal, this) and have been left with Fairgame$$$$ and Concord, from which all we've seen is a terrible CGI ubi-style trailer and jiggly burger. What a sad twist of fate.
@__jamiie @NeuralDeclan I'm sorry you had to be involved in that on either side. What is the thinking behind this law and what does it help prevent? I imagine it's vaguely within the realms of transparency and fairness but it seems so unnecessarily cruel.
What is the logic of telling "150 of them that they are "at risk" of being the 90 people who will soon lose their job"?
In whose mind is it better to traumatise 150 employees by telling them they're all at risk, so they can anxiously bite their nails, instead of deciding first who the 90 are going to be and immediately telling them? Surely that would be more humane and less damaging to the morale of the company.
Even with the Bloomberg article breaking the news early, I can't fathom why they would decide to issue this warning to their staff if they really have their best interests at heart, though the cynic in me can't help but wonder if there's an added bonus of squeezing extra work out of them in their final days by having them all scramble to prove themselves more irreplaceable than each other in some twisted 'lord of the flies' performance.
Seriously, can anyone who works in this field enlighten me as to what their logic is?
@get2sammyb Clearly I need to start getting some more sleep. Aside from the fact that I didn't catch that in the massive headline, I don't know why I thought we might get February sales figures before the month's even through. I think I thought I was looking at weekly figures (do we even get those?).
Fantastic month. My only complaint is that I won't have the time to play everything I want. But wow, The Outer Worlds, Resistance, NFS, AC Valhalla and Tales of Arise (the first in the series to pique my interest)! Hard to complain with those headliners.
@get2sammyb Yes. People forget that "Second Party" is a term that we, the fans, and the gaming press invented ourselves to distinguish between games from Studio's the manufacturer owns and those it doesn't.
The term isn't really used internally, at least not in any formal sense. To Sony, a title is either first or third party.
I only played the first 3 Gears and thought they were massively over-rated. 3 of my picks made the top 5. They were The Elder Scrolls, Indiana Jones and Forza Horizon, the other 2 I picked were Wolfenstein and Sea of Thieves.
Very exciting news. I'm actually super stoked by the prospect of Sea of Thieves on PS5. I've wanted to give that a go for a while. Maybe this means Spyro and Crash are saved as well! It's gonna be a long week.
1) My point is that people would accept sacrifices in order to achieve a 60fps mode. 900p is one example.
2) The majority might not care, but Dragons Dogma isn't a mainstream franchise, and there is a large contingent of enthusiasts who will only play games that offer a higher frame rate. Majority? No. Significant? Quite possibly.
Very disappointing. Developers have to learn that we want 60fps options. If it means you have to turn the resolution down to 900p, so be it, but give us the option. This will lose them sales.
On principle I always hate it when the first game/film has no subtitle but the sequel does. I also don't like non title-distinguishing subtitles: 'On the beach' sounds like it could have been used for the first one. I hear people in a future with multiple Death Stranding titles asking of this alleged title : "Which one was that again? I'm sure they all went on the beach at some point".
That being said, I'm really not fussed. I'm sure the game is going to be excellent based on how phenomenal the first one was.
And a State of Play in the next two weeks? Nothing of substance to complain about here.
@Widey85 Personally I don't rate her. She also wrote the Tomb Raider reboot games and they had terrible stories imo, but if you recommend Lost Words and it's not too long I'll give it a try before it leaves.
@Fiendish-Beaver I think it's fair to say that if a Spyro game is going to be released anytime soon then it started development long before the ABK acquisition. Turn-around isn't that quick. The only likely impact MS could have is cancelling an already-in-development PS5 version like they did with Starfield and Indiana Jones (though obviously I hope that's not the case).
I recently finally got back into Batman: Arkham Knight and I'm enjoying it a lot more than the first time around, so this weekend I'll be finally finishing that story and then trying to mop up all those Riddler trophies
What a great shame. Couldn't future development and maintenance have been moved over to another studio (maybe custom built) a little after initial launch?
Obviously if having had to choose between a single player Naughty Dog studio and a live service one I'd pick the former; I still don't understand why that was a necessary choice to make.
I can't help but wonder, based on all the leaks, where this project would be had Bungie not been brought in. That acquisition is looking to be the worst of Jim Ryan's legacy.
@LiamCroft Views on the game aside, I do also think this is rather unprofessional. As staff you are and should be held to a different standard than other users and you should want your comments section to be a place that invites all expressions of opinion providing they're relevant and are not abusive.
I just saw Killers of The Flower Moon and it's got me in kind of early 20th century USA mood, so after trying to decide between revisiting Mafia and Red Dead Redemption 2, I've gone with the latter (I know, it's technically 1899).
Still in the phase of getting used to 30fps again. Thanks Rockstar (and 2K for not updating Mafia trilogy).
I only played the first 3, which were fine games but had dreadful writing. She may be a fantastic writer but considering the recent God of War games have had vastly better stories, writing and world building than Gears of War (at least the first 3 which players regularly claim were the better ones) this is a little concerning.
@roe No, it hi-lights a commitment to ensuring profitability. From what we know, the delay was a result of Bungie's intervention at Sony's request and has been delayed not for quality reasons, but because they no longer have confidence in its potential for player retention and high profitability.
When I look at Bungie's Destiny games (particularly in contrast to previous Naughty Dog titles), that move doesn't feel like one that will necessarily improve the quality of the game.
@tameshiyaku I was literally saving this one for Halloween too. How frustrating. I wonder if the timing is calculated in order to get some extra Halloween sales in.
I kinda love that this comment section has just become a Returnal appreciation thread. Bar the tiresome post-game cipher grind, it's one of the best games in a long time.
On topic: I would love for whatever Firesprite are making to fill the Silent Hills shaped hole that's sat in my heart for years, but based on what they did with the Persistence, I can imagine it will be a different kind of game altogether.
1) Dragon Age Inquisition: 383 Hours 2) Red Dead Redemption2: 341 Hours 3) Uncharted 4: A Thief's End: 328 Hours
All three are stellar games so it doesn't surprise me. It actually lists Uncharted 4 as The Legacy of Thieves Collection which I've never played, so once I do get around to playing that it'll probably jump to 2nd or 1st place.
I must be honest. I partook in the early stages on this vote which started months ago in May, but quickly lost stamina as it dragged on and on and on. I think the vast majority of voters quit like me, hence why the more recent polls got a handful of votes.
To me, the small sample size makes this vote less meaningful. I would recommend in the future with these polls to make them far more brief (like a week) if you want to get a result that accurately represents the community's opinion. That being said, mad respect to Kidfried for their incredible dedication and endurance to this poll.
The gameplay and visual styles look great, but almost everything else is a big turn off to me. Honestly this just makes me even more sad we're not getting get Gravity Rush 3.
I'll be sticking to my PS3 version for another playthorugh. I've actually already unlocked all the multiplayer trophies required for the platinum, thanks to the help of a friendly stranger online and a bug that gave me XP for repeatedly shooting an opposing players corpse (cheap I know, but with the state of the multiplayer and matchmaking, aiming for max level through legitimate means would have been a study in tedium).
Sure the textures will me muddier and the frame-rate less consistent, but in the right frame of mind, there's a bit of nostalgic charm to that (I still prefer playing the Uncharted trilogy on PS3 to PS4).
Had this been a complete overhaul, or at the very least, run at 60fps, I might have opted for a purchase, but as it is (and at that price point), the PS3 version will do just fine.
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Re: Cancelled Live Service Spider-Man PS5 Game Allegedly Surfaces
@Voltan Hahaha. The trailer was pretty much just remixed SM2 gameplay with a bit of dev tinkering, skins. In a sense they were looking at a finished game, just one that's already been released. You'd think the 'concept' part would give it away.
Re: Cancelled Live Service Spider-Man PS5 Game Allegedly Surfaces
I would love the behind the scenes of what happened here, it seems like a sure-fire hit if Insombian were behind the wheel, or at least another dev using their framework, mechanics etc.
All I can imagine (and hope) is that maybe there were overlaps between the ideas in this project and another Spidey game in the works, making the development of both redundant.
The rumoured Spider-Verse game from Insomniac would be a natural fit for co-op, and having just seen the leaked concept trailer for The Great Web, it all felt very Spider-verse esque what with the dimension jumping, spider-noir sequences etc. To be honest, I think I'd prefer that art style for a co-op Spider game - would help differentiate it from the mainline series.
Fingers crossed that's what's happening.
EDIT: Realised I typed 'Insombian' instead of 'Insomniac', went to edit, decided I preferred 'Insombian'.
Re: Smooth Sailing for Xbox Exclusive Sea of Thieves As It Tops PS5 Pre-Order Charts
@lankieBD I'm gutted i didn't bite the bullet when it first went up like you did. It does leave a bad taste in my mouth, especially when Helldivers 2 just launched for less money.
Re: Smooth Sailing for Xbox Exclusive Sea of Thieves As It Tops PS5 Pre-Order Charts
The pre-order was initially £32.99 on the PlayStation store, but was soon jacked up to £39.99. Cheeky, I wonder if they saw the numbers and figured they could milk it.
Re: Poll: Are You Still Playing Helldivers 2?
I managed to snag a physical copy from Argos, really looking forward to picking it up and playing it on Monday. Helldivers was one of my favourite PS4 games so my expectations are strong.
Re: Stellar Blade Demo Drops Out of Nowhere on PS5, Gets Pulled Almost Immediately
I don't usually bother with demos, but I'll be immediately checking this out when it drops proper. Very curious about Stellar Blade.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition Demands a Futuristic PC
I'd like.a physical PS5 UK release if possible. They only seemed to make 5 copies and sold them through playstation direct (long gone by now of-course).
Re: Rumour: Gravity Rush 2 Remaster Dropping onto PS5, PC, Reveal Coming in May
My hype is through the roof. Ever since that digital foundry video I've been eager to replay this in 60fps, I just never thought it would happen.
Gravity Rush 2 is easily one of my top 5 games of the last gen. The moment-to-moment gameplay is unlike anything else in the 3rd person action genre, it's very refreshing, and the world is a wonder to explore: So beautiful, cosy and mysterious. If I were to live in any video game world it would be Hekesville.
I really hope more people take the opportunity to play it, maybe then we might even get a sequel, though won't dare to dream.
Re: London Studio's PS5 Live Service Fantasy Co-Op Game Will Never See the Light of Day
Like many here I was never chomping at the bit for Sony's big live service push, but somehow it now seems we've lost all the most exciting live service projects (The Last of Us, Twisted Metal, this) and have been left with Fairgame$$$$ and Concord, from which all we've seen is a terrible CGI ubi-style trailer and jiggly burger. What a sad twist of fate.
Re: Layoffs Hit Until Dawn, Dark Pictures Dev Supermassive Games, 90 People Affected
@__jamiie @NeuralDeclan I'm sorry you had to be involved in that on either side. What is the thinking behind this law and what does it help prevent? I imagine it's vaguely within the realms of transparency and fairness but it seems so unnecessarily cruel.
Re: Layoffs Hit Until Dawn, Dark Pictures Dev Supermassive Games, 90 People Affected
What is the logic of telling "150 of them that they are "at risk" of being the 90 people who will soon lose their job"?
In whose mind is it better to traumatise 150 employees by telling them they're all at risk, so they can anxiously bite their nails, instead of deciding first who the 90 are going to be and immediately telling them? Surely that would be more humane and less damaging to the morale of the company.
Even with the Bloomberg article breaking the news early, I can't fathom why they would decide to issue this warning to their staff if they really have their best interests at heart, though the cynic in me can't help but wonder if there's an added bonus of squeezing extra work out of them in their final days by having them all scramble to prove themselves more irreplaceable than each other in some twisted 'lord of the flies' performance.
Seriously, can anyone who works in this field enlighten me as to what their logic is?
Re: Jan 2024 USA Sales: Tekken, Suicide Squad, Persona, Like a Dragon, The Last of Us All Winners on PS5
@get2sammyb Clearly I need to start getting some more sleep. Aside from the fact that I didn't catch that in the massive headline, I don't know why I thought we might get February sales figures before the month's even through. I think I thought I was looking at weekly figures (do we even get those?).
Re: Jan 2024 USA Sales: Tekken, Suicide Squad, Persona, Like a Dragon, The Last of Us All Winners on PS5
Interesting that Helldivers 2 is selling gangbusters on Steam yet failed to penetrate the PS5 charts this week. I'm sure Sony is taking note.
Re: Embracer Layoffs Total Nearly 1,400 So Far, 29 Unannounced Games Cancelled
Let this be a cautionary tale to remember when we next hear grand plans of mass industry consolidation.
Re: Looks Like This Is the New Lara Croft in PS5's Next Tomb Raider
Oh dear. Didn't take long at all for the "that's a man" crowd to show.
Re: 13 More Games Coming to PS Plus Extra, Premium This Month
Fantastic month. My only complaint is that I won't have the time to play everything I want. But wow, The Outer Worlds, Resistance, NFS, AC Valhalla and Tales of Arise (the first in the series to pique my interest)! Hard to complain with those headliners.
Re: Sony Predicts Slide in PS5 Sales with No Major Existing IPs Planned Before March 2025
@get2sammyb Yes. People forget that "Second Party" is a term that we, the fans, and the gaming press invented ourselves to distinguish between games from Studio's the manufacturer owns and those it doesn't.
The term isn't really used internally, at least not in any formal sense. To Sony, a title is either first or third party.
Re: Readers Vote Gears of War Above Halo as Their Most Wanted Xbox Series on PlayStation
I only played the first 3 Gears and thought they were massively over-rated. 3 of my picks made the top 5. They were The Elder Scrolls, Indiana Jones and Forza Horizon, the other 2 I picked were Wolfenstein and Sea of Thieves.
Re: Xbox Set to Announce Multi-Platform Plans Next Week
Very exciting news. I'm actually super stoked by the prospect of Sea of Thieves on PS5. I've wanted to give that a go for a while. Maybe this means Spyro and Crash are saved as well! It's gonna be a long week.
Re: Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered Has Almost 300 Trophies, But Zero PS5 Platinums
I came for the horror of no platinums, I stayed for the horror of speedrun trophies.
Re: Rumour: Dragon's Dogma 2 Runs at 30fps on PS5
@DennisReynolds
1) My point is that people would accept sacrifices in order to achieve a 60fps mode. 900p is one example.
2) The majority might not care, but Dragons Dogma isn't a mainstream franchise, and there is a large contingent of enthusiasts who will only play games that offer a higher frame rate. Majority? No. Significant? Quite possibly.
Re: Rumour: Dragon's Dogma 2 Runs at 30fps on PS5
Very disappointing. Developers have to learn that we want 60fps options. If it means you have to turn the resolution down to 900p, so be it, but give us the option. This will lose them sales.
Re: Death Stranding 2 Reportedly Subtitled 'On the Beach', Re-Reveal Expected at State of Play
On principle I always hate it when the first game/film has no subtitle but the sequel does. I also don't like non title-distinguishing subtitles: 'On the beach' sounds like it could have been used for the first one. I hear people in a future with multiple Death Stranding titles asking of this alleged title : "Which one was that again? I'm sure they all went on the beach at some point".
That being said, I'm really not fussed. I'm sure the game is going to be excellent based on how phenomenal the first one was.
And a State of Play in the next two weeks? Nothing of substance to complain about here.
Re: PS Plus Extra Loses Another 10 PS4 Games Next Month
@Widey85 Personally I don't rate her. She also wrote the Tomb Raider reboot games and they had terrible stories imo, but if you recommend Lost Words and it's not too long I'll give it a try before it leaves.
Re: Video: The Last Of Us 2 PS5 vs PS4 Graphics Comparison
@J_e_f_f__D Objectively it is. See? We're arguing.
Re: Prison Architect 2 Announced, Sequel Goes Fully 3D on PS5 in March
Now this is how you announce a game of this sort. 2 months before launch? Perfect! Get it into people's hands while their interest is piqued.
Re: Spyro the Dragon Tweet Ignites Hopes for a Sequel
@Fiendish-Beaver I think it's fair to say that if a Spyro game is going to be released anytime soon then it started development long before the ABK acquisition. Turn-around isn't that quick. The only likely impact MS could have is cancelling an already-in-development PS5 version like they did with Starfield and Indiana Jones (though obviously I hope that's not the case).
Re: Naughty Dog Details The Last of Us 2 Remastered Upgrade Path on PS5
Top tier subheader Khay.
Re: Spyro the Dragon Tweet Ignites Hopes for a Sequel
Don't... don't give me hope.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 510
I recently finally got back into Batman: Arkham Knight and I'm enjoying it a lot more than the first time around, so this weekend I'll be finally finishing that story and then trying to mop up all those Riddler trophies
Re: Two of PS5's Biggest 2024 Titles Will Have Massive Musical Components
Is Last of Us: Part 2 Remastered really one of 2024's biggest titles?
Re: The Last of Us Multiplayer Project Is Officially Cancelled
What a great shame. Couldn't future development and maintenance have been moved over to another studio (maybe custom built) a little after initial launch?
Obviously if having had to choose between a single player Naughty Dog studio and a live service one I'd pick the former; I still don't understand why that was a necessary choice to make.
I can't help but wonder, based on all the leaks, where this project would be had Bungie not been brought in. That acquisition is looking to be the worst of Jim Ryan's legacy.
Re: What Was Announced at The Game Awards 2023?
As the Game Awards go, I think this has been one of the better ones - at least for Playstation fans.
As always well done Push Square staff on your excellent reporting and for making this useful hub, it's always my go-to resource after the show.
Re: PS5 Console Exclusive Rise of the Ronin Out in March 2024
@LiamCroft Views on the game aside, I do also think this is rather unprofessional. As staff you are and should be held to a different standard than other users and you should want your comments section to be a place that invites all expressions of opinion providing they're relevant and are not abusive.
Re: Extraction Shooter Exoborne Forecasts Extreme Weather Conditions on PS5
This looks like the most un-inspired style and setting I've seen in years. It feels AI generated.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 505
I just saw Killers of The Flower Moon and it's got me in kind of early 20th century USA mood, so after trying to decide between revisiting Mafia and Red Dead Redemption 2, I've gone with the latter (I know, it's technically 1899).
Still in the phase of getting used to 30fps again. Thanks Rockstar (and 2K for not updating Mafia trilogy).
Re: Mini Review: The Last Faith (PS5) - Competent Metroidvania Scratches That Bloodborne Itch
@Northern_munkey Surely it's 60fps. I can't imagine a world where a game like this is 30fps on PS5. Even crappy shovelware hits 60.
Re: Beyond Good & Evil 20th Anniversary Re-Release Appears Imminent
@Czar_Khastik Hahaha very good.
Re: Tearaway's Wonderful Music Coming to Streaming Services as Series Turns 10
Gravity Rush and Tearaway are probably my 2 favourite Vita games. So glad we got Unfolded and GR2, hoping for more sequels.
Re: God of War Studio Recruits Former Gears of War Narrative Director
I only played the first 3, which were fine games but had dreadful writing. She may be a fantastic writer but considering the recent God of War games have had vastly better stories, writing and world building than Gears of War (at least the first 3 which players regularly claim were the better ones) this is a little concerning.
Re: Sony Does a Lot Behind the Scenes to Ensure High Quality PS5 Exclusives
@roe No, it hi-lights a commitment to ensuring profitability. From what we know, the delay was a result of Bungie's intervention at Sony's request and has been delayed not for quality reasons, but because they no longer have confidence in its potential for player retention and high profitability.
When I look at Bungie's Destiny games (particularly in contrast to previous Naughty Dog titles), that move doesn't feel like one that will necessarily improve the quality of the game.
Re: It's Probably Too Late for You to Play These 16 PS Plus Games
@tameshiyaku I was literally saving this one for Halloween too. How frustrating. I wonder if the timing is calculated in order to get some extra Halloween sales in.
Re: First-Party Firesprite's Dark PS5 Horror Could Be Due in 2025
I kinda love that this comment section has just become a Returnal appreciation thread. Bar the tiresome post-game cipher grind, it's one of the best games in a long time.
On topic: I would love for whatever Firesprite are making to fill the Silent Hills shaped hole that's sat in my heart for years, but based on what they did with the Persistence, I can imagine it will be a different kind of game altogether.
Re: Secret PS5 Firmware Update Feature Spotlights Your Wall of Shame
Ok here we are:
1) Dragon Age Inquisition: 383 Hours
2) Red Dead Redemption2: 341 Hours
3) Uncharted 4: A Thief's End: 328 Hours
All three are stellar games so it doesn't surprise me. It actually lists Uncharted 4 as The Legacy of Thieves Collection which I've never played, so once I do get around to playing that it'll probably jump to 2nd or 1st place.
Re: 20 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Coming Next Week
Wow. They really picked the worst month to announce their price hike. What were they thinking?
At least I can finally check out Call of The Sea.
Re: Community: Push Square Readers Narrow Down Best Game of All Time Vote to Two Classics
I must be honest. I partook in the early stages on this vote which started months ago in May, but quickly lost stamina as it dragged on and on and on. I think the vast majority of voters quit like me, hence why the more recent polls got a handful of votes.
To me, the small sample size makes this vote less meaningful. I would recommend in the future with these polls to make them far more brief (like a week) if you want to get a result that accurately represents the community's opinion. That being said, mad respect to Kidfried for their incredible dedication and endurance to this poll.
Re: Assassin's Creed's Smartphone Spin-Off Has a Very Familiar Final Name
Why is he American?
Re: Free PS5, PS4 Gacha Project Mugen Will Drop Your Jaws
The gameplay and visual styles look great, but almost everything else is a big turn off to me. Honestly this just makes me even more sad we're not getting get Gravity Rush 3.
Re: Thank Goodness You're Here! Is an Absurd Adventure 'Slapformer' Coming to PS5
This looks absolutely marvellous. I can not wait.
Re: Red Dead Redemption PS4's Platinum Less of a Grind In Unexpected Bright Side
I'll be sticking to my PS3 version for another playthorugh. I've actually already unlocked all the multiplayer trophies required for the platinum, thanks to the help of a friendly stranger online and a bug that gave me XP for repeatedly shooting an opposing players corpse (cheap I know, but with the state of the multiplayer and matchmaking, aiming for max level through legitimate means would have been a study in tedium).
Sure the textures will me muddier and the frame-rate less consistent, but in the right frame of mind, there's a bit of nostalgic charm to that (I still prefer playing the Uncharted trilogy on PS3 to PS4).
Had this been a complete overhaul, or at the very least, run at 60fps, I might have opted for a purchase, but as it is (and at that price point), the PS3 version will do just fine.