@rjejr While you don't need to ever touch the Gacha if you don't want to, it would definitely be wrong not to point out how convoluting upgrading the characters you do own can get. Each character needs a currency to level up, a currency to upgrade individual skills, different types of currency to unlock passives and even more currencies to upgrade engines and drives. Not to mention that when you increase the level the grade of the currency required also increases. If you get lost, just press R3 on the upgrade screen of whatever you are trying to upgrade and it will tell you where you can obtain it and, most usually, warp you to where you can get it.
Unfortunately that's where the one drawback to Hoyo games becomes apparent. You will need recharging stamina to grind out those various currencies. I wouldn't say it's ever bad enough to stonewall progress but it will definitely take a couple days to level up every character you want to use to endgame stats.
@Mikey856 I don't get why we're still using live service as this catch all Boogeyman term, as if its as bad a concept as NFTs are. Suicide Squad wasn't a bad game because it was a live service, it was a bad game because the publishers were only focused on milking a popular franchise in the same way we used to get terrible movie tie-ins. When care isn't put into a game it can be felt by everyone that plays it.
@Nf157 It really depends on what style of game you're looking for. Genshin has been out the longest so it has the most content, has a big open world with a lot of exploration but also might be missing some of the improvements that newer Hoyo games have implemented.
Honkai Star Rail is a turn based JRPG with smaller environments and what I would say is a more focused story. There's a bit of exploration to be had but the focus is definitely on building your teams properly to clear content.
Zenless Zone Zero is like an arena combat game, a very lite version of games like Devil May Cry. Every character has their own fighting style but nowhere near the same amount of moves. Some might find the combat a bit too easy, boring even because of this but a bigger emphasis on dodging and parry and chain attacks becomes necessary the further into the game you get.
Ultimately you can get through the game just fine with all the free currency you get from completing missions and objectives. Just don't fall into the trap of missing out and you won't wind up spending. The hard part is that Hoyo is really good at making you want characters...FOMO is the biggest drug.
After playing the game for a couple hours ZZZ seems like an interesting mix of Persona, arena action games like (a very simplified devil may cry) and there's even some Splatoon vibes here and there. Honestly I just love the world more than anything and the characters are already pretty likeable. I can see myself sticking with this to see where the story goes and since it's not another huge open world game I feel like I can play it comfortably with Honkai.
I would be happier for Borderlands 3 if it hadn't already been on Extra and I didn't already get the plat. Ah well, at least ZZZ comes out in a few more days.
@LowDefAl "Sure Stars is still busted" Why are we so quickly sweeping that under the rug like it's an afterthought? It's not like this service has been gone for a day or two, it's been a long while with no updates or communication and it's a service that a few of us would take advantage of to feel rewarded for purchasing games. Weird how all the things that are pro consumer take forever to be repaired or looked at.
I, like many others, despised free to play games and Gacha and stuff like that...but Honkai really sold me. I gave the game a try and I still put down 30 minutes a day to play through the dailies and set aside a couple hours extra whenever new content releases. There can be really high quality free experiences out there that can be totally beatable without ever touching the gambling aspect of the game.
And for those complaining that the game is constantly begging for money? I guess you probably shouldn't play literally any game with microtransactions either.
I remember playing this back on the PS3. It was a fun time but still felt like Telltale hadn't really hit their stride with this style of game. Just don't expect a Walking dead or Wolf Among us, or even a tales of the borderlands and it should be a fun time.
I've been saying it over and over. Not only is it going to go all digital, the next step is going to be streaming only. Hopefully the Internet is good enough by then to handle it. At the very least storage problems will be a thing of the past. Future generations won't comprehend games needing to be "installed" before playing.
@Sweetz Ironically it's games like this that make sure devs have the funding to make stuff like Stellar Blade without having to bow to the whims of investors.
People take their video games so seriously. Like, does anyone really care if you managed to beat the super hard version of something? I mean unless you're a streamer doing a challenge run (which you can totally still do no matter how much they nerf the game) then who really cares?
Almost like people still want to play the games that made PlayStation big in the first place. It's almost like Sony forgot its roots chasing after all these cinematic experiences.
@WolfyTn I absolutely hated Monster Hunter when I tried to play it as a melee fighter. To me the game just feels way too clunky for that but once I became a heavy bowgun user the game changed completely for me. Not saying it'll fix any problems you might have with it but you might just enjoy ranged combat more.
@Shigurui Yeah I've started to realize that speed boots in particular tend to be the hardest ones to pull for naturally so I've started saving my premium crafting materials to try to get those and ropes. Too bad that they can be a pretty scarce resource.
Awesome, now I can more quickly get the useless relics I don't need thanks to the annoying randomness of relic farming. My least favorite part of the game trying to an energy Regen rope or speed boots and don't even get me started on trying to also get optimal sub stats if I manage to get the aforementioned gear.
I wonder just how many of these so called "get gud" -ers use guides to figure out how to beat bosses, or what the overpowered builds are or where the strong weapons are hidden? Personally I consider that the closest thing to playing on "easy" mode for a souls game.
I mean Phil has proven time and again to go back on his word and be a snake. He's in good company with Todd Howard and Bobby Kotick...well, before they kicked the later out with a nice and hefty bonus.
Someday I hope the AC team can make a hitman style game but with Assassin's Creed's unique trappings. Replayable sandbox stages sounds like way more fun than what they've already been doing for years.
@NinjaNicky I don't like that we call those games JRPGS now. In my old brain a JRPG is a turn based games, not souls-like that we get so many of nowadays.
I never trust digital versions of board games because the dice rolls never truly feel random. Somehow somebody that is low on money will ALWAYS land or boardwalk or someone else will ALWAYS wind up going to jail despite the odds. Reminds me of playing Mario Party DS and its "random" rolls.
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Re: Gacha Sensation Zenless Zone Zero Surpasses 50 Million Downloads Across All Platforms
@rjejr
While you don't need to ever touch the Gacha if you don't want to, it would definitely be wrong not to point out how convoluting upgrading the characters you do own can get. Each character needs a currency to level up, a currency to upgrade individual skills, different types of currency to unlock passives and even more currencies to upgrade engines and drives. Not to mention that when you increase the level the grade of the currency required also increases. If you get lost, just press R3 on the upgrade screen of whatever you are trying to upgrade and it will tell you where you can obtain it and, most usually, warp you to where you can get it.
Unfortunately that's where the one drawback to Hoyo games becomes apparent. You will need recharging stamina to grind out those various currencies. I wouldn't say it's ever bad enough to stonewall progress but it will definitely take a couple days to level up every character you want to use to endgame stats.
Re: Gacha Sensation Zenless Zone Zero Surpasses 50 Million Downloads Across All Platforms
@Mikey856
I don't get why we're still using live service as this catch all Boogeyman term, as if its as bad a concept as NFTs are. Suicide Squad wasn't a bad game because it was a live service, it was a bad game because the publishers were only focused on milking a popular franchise in the same way we used to get terrible movie tie-ins. When care isn't put into a game it can be felt by everyone that plays it.
Re: Gacha Sensation Zenless Zone Zero Surpasses 50 Million Downloads Across All Platforms
@Nf157
It really depends on what style of game you're looking for. Genshin has been out the longest so it has the most content, has a big open world with a lot of exploration but also might be missing some of the improvements that newer Hoyo games have implemented.
Honkai Star Rail is a turn based JRPG with smaller environments and what I would say is a more focused story. There's a bit of exploration to be had but the focus is definitely on building your teams properly to clear content.
Zenless Zone Zero is like an arena combat game, a very lite version of games like Devil May Cry. Every character has their own fighting style but nowhere near the same amount of moves. Some might find the combat a bit too easy, boring even because of this but a bigger emphasis on dodging and parry and chain attacks becomes necessary the further into the game you get.
Ultimately you can get through the game just fine with all the free currency you get from completing missions and objectives. Just don't fall into the trap of missing out and you won't wind up spending. The hard part is that Hoyo is really good at making you want characters...FOMO is the biggest drug.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Zenless Zone Zero?
I like that the game isn't a huge open world. I can see this being a game you can sink a quick 30 minutes into it or so a day.
Re: Free PS5 Urban Fantasy RPG Zenless Zone Zero Is Playable Now
After playing the game for a couple hours ZZZ seems like an interesting mix of Persona, arena action games like (a very simplified devil may cry) and there's even some Splatoon vibes here and there. Honestly I just love the world more than anything and the characters are already pretty likeable. I can see myself sticking with this to see where the story goes and since it's not another huge open world game I feel like I can play it comfortably with Honkai.
Re: Collectible PlayStation Figurines Out This August, Featuring Aloy, Kratos, and Jin
Kind of cool but only Jin looks cool enough to display to me.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard's In-Depth Difficulty Settings Even Have a No Death Option
You guys are playing through Elden Ring with weapons? What a bunch of noobs! Fists only is the way to go, otherwise are you even playing??
Re: PS Plus Essential Offers 3 More PS5, PS4 Games to Download Now
I would be happier for Borderlands 3 if it hadn't already been on Extra and I didn't already get the plat. Ah well, at least ZZZ comes out in a few more days.
Re: Some PSN Services Down and Offline, Sony Investigating
@LowDefAl
"Sure Stars is still busted"
Why are we so quickly sweeping that under the rug like it's an afterthought? It's not like this service has been gone for a day or two, it's been a long while with no updates or communication and it's a service that a few of us would take advantage of to feel rewarded for purchasing games. Weird how all the things that are pro consumer take forever to be repaired or looked at.
Re: Some PSN Services Down and Offline, Sony Investigating
Good to see the extra money going into the subscriptions is being used to improve stars and the overall online experience. 🙄
Re: Zenless Zone Zero PS5 Will Get You Started with 100 Free Gacha Pulls
I, like many others, despised free to play games and Gacha and stuff like that...but Honkai really sold me. I gave the game a try and I still put down 30 minutes a day to play through the dailies and set aside a couple hours extra whenever new content releases. There can be really high quality free experiences out there that can be totally beatable without ever touching the gambling aspect of the game.
And for those complaining that the game is constantly begging for money? I guess you probably shouldn't play literally any game with microtransactions either.
Re: Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse Remastered Tells a Tale on PS4 This August
I remember playing this back on the PS3. It was a fun time but still felt like Telltale hadn't really hit their stride with this style of game. Just don't expect a Walking dead or Wolf Among us, or even a tales of the borderlands and it should be a fun time.
Re: Helldivers 2 Director Defends Elden Ring Difficulty: 'Always Cater to a Select Audience'
My wife left me after she found out I played games on easy mode.
Re: The First Descendant Gets Gameplay, PS5 Graphical Options Ahead of Upcoming Launch
The game looks fine enough but the voice acting has been pretty terrible so far.
Re: PlayStation Likely to Go All-Digital By PS7, Analyst Predicts
I've been saying it over and over. Not only is it going to go all digital, the next step is going to be streaming only. Hopefully the Internet is good enough by then to handle it. At the very least storage problems will be a thing of the past. Future generations won't comprehend games needing to be "installed" before playing.
Re: PS5, PS4 Indie Sensation Dave the Diver Takes a Titillating Twist in NIKKE Crossover
@Sweetz
Ironically it's games like this that make sure devs have the funding to make stuff like Stellar Blade without having to bow to the whims of investors.
Re: Elden Ring DLC Made Easier with New PS5, PS4 Calibration Update
People take their video games so seriously. Like, does anyone really care if you managed to beat the super hard version of something? I mean unless you're a streamer doing a challenge run (which you can totally still do no matter how much they nerf the game) then who really cares?
Re: Dr Disrespect Admits Messages to Minor 'Leaned Too Much in the Direction' of Impropriety
Well that's one way to instantly nuke your entire career overnight.
Re: Anime Waifu Horse Racing Game Going Global Alongside PS4 Party Spin-Off
Thank God it's not Crunchyroll, hopefully this means no sudden shutdown of games.
Re: Sly Cooper PS2 Is PS Plus Premium's Biggest Classic Hit So Far
Almost like people still want to play the games that made PlayStation big in the first place. It's almost like Sony forgot its roots chasing after all these cinematic experiences.
Re: GEX Trilogy Revives a Long Lost 90s Mascot on PS5, PS4
Gex enter the gecko scared me so much as a kid. Something about those early 3D graphics...
Re: Sony Is Allegedly Pulling PSVR2 Funding, Report Claims
I'll definitely pick one up in that golden time when the device is considered worthless before it skyrockets in price, like the Vita TV.
Re: FromSoftware Boss Twists the Bloodborne Knife, Says It's 'A Special Game for Me'
Bloodborne ported to PC...but you have to sign up for PSN to play.
Monkey's paw curls
Re: Random: Fans Continue to Hollow, 737 Days Since Last Silksong News
I really hope they release it soon so I can stop seeing people spamming it on every presentation Livestream.
Re: 14 More PS Plus Extra, Premium Titles Available to Download Now
Anno 1800, at long last I can get stuck in.
Re: Paradox Cancels Sim Life by You After Repeated Early Access Delays
A shame, lord knows that the Sims needs some competition so they don't keep coasting along with barebones DLC releases.
Re: Random: Rockstar's GTA Trilogy Racks Up Over 30 Million Downloads on Netflix
Interesting statistic, though I'm unsure what it has to do with PlayStation at all.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for June 2024?
@WolfyTn
I absolutely hated Monster Hunter when I tried to play it as a melee fighter. To me the game just feels way too clunky for that but once I became a heavy bowgun user the game changed completely for me. Not saying it'll fix any problems you might have with it but you might just enjoy ranged combat more.
Re: Ridiculous Action Game Killer Bean Will Be Blasting to PS5 Eventually
It looks like it plays how the new Saints Row should have played.
Re: Honkai: Star Rail's Next PS5 Update May Be One of Its Most Important Yet
@Shigurui
Yeah I've started to realize that speed boots in particular tend to be the hardest ones to pull for naturally so I've started saving my premium crafting materials to try to get those and ropes. Too bad that they can be a pretty scarce resource.
Re: Video Game Leaking Culture Has Hit an Embarrassing New Low
I feel like only game journalists are personally offended by someone leaking incorrect information. The rest of us barely even care.
Re: Honkai: Star Rail's Next PS5 Update May Be One of Its Most Important Yet
Awesome, now I can more quickly get the useless relics I don't need thanks to the annoying randomness of relic farming. My least favorite part of the game trying to an energy Regen rope or speed boots and don't even get me started on trying to also get optimal sub stats if I manage to get the aforementioned gear.
Re: FromSoftware Boss Says Using Guides to Beat Its Games a 'Perfectly Valid Playstyle'
I wonder just how many of these so called "get gud" -ers use guides to figure out how to beat bosses, or what the overpowered builds are or where the strong weapons are hidden? Personally I consider that the closest thing to playing on "easy" mode for a souls game.
Re: 14 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Announced for June 2024
Yessss I waited and waited for Anno to drop and my patience has been rewarded!
Re: Tomb Raider Legend Unearths 480p, 30fps Performance on PS5, PS4
Kind of ironic that a series X/S can run PS2 games better than a PlayStation console can...but you didn't hear that from me.
Re: Phantom Blade Zero PS5 Not Another Soulslike, Offers Multiple Difficulty Options
So it's more of a DMC-like instead then.
Re: Ex-PS5 Exec Shawn Layden Isn't Holding Back His Feelings on Xbox
I mean Phil has proven time and again to go back on his word and be a snake. He's in good company with Todd Howard and Bobby Kotick...well, before they kicked the later out with a nice and hefty bonus.
Re: Preview: Assassin's Creed Shadows' Two Characters Will Satisfy Both Old and New Fans on PS5
Someday I hope the AC team can make a hitman style game but with Assassin's Creed's unique trappings. Replayable sandbox stages sounds like way more fun than what they've already been doing for years.
Re: Sailing Sim Skull & Bones Adds Actual Dragons on PS5 in Upcoming Update
@NinjaNicky
I don't like that we call those games JRPGS now. In my old brain a JRPG is a turn based games, not souls-like that we get so many of nowadays.
Re: Scores of Retro PS Plus Premium Titles Upgraded with Platinum Trophies on PS5, PS4
Very welcome change, hopefully the entire classic selection can be updated in this way to make revisiting old games a fresh challenge.
Re: Metal Slug Tactics Commands Attention with Tense, Turn-Based Gameplay on PS5, PS4
The final fantasy tactics art style looks great.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Demos Out of This Galaxy PS5 Gameplay
Too bad WB patented the Nemesis system...and then never used it again. This kind of game seems perfect for such a system to be implemented.
Re: Monopoly Gets a Massive Makeover on PS5, PS4
I never trust digital versions of board games because the dice rolls never truly feel random. Somehow somebody that is low on money will ALWAYS land or boardwalk or someone else will ALWAYS wind up going to jail despite the odds. Reminds me of playing Mario Party DS and its "random" rolls.
Re: Feature: The Results of Our Summer Game Fest Prediction Quiz Are In
All I learned was that we should be even more cynical.
Re: Valorant Won't Have Gyro Controls on PS5 Because Xbox Doesn't Support It
I'm pretty sure most people will just plug in a M&K if they really want to play a super sweaty game like this.
Re: Horror Hit Alan Wake 2 Is Getting a Retail PS5 Release Because You Wouldn't Shut Up About It
They'd better sell out after all the complaining.
Re: Persona 3 Reload: Episode Aigis Arrives on 10th September, Trailer Has New Gameplay
If I remember correctly the DLC is free on Gamepass right? Something to consider.
Re: Poll: Was Summer Game Fest 2024 Great or a Letdown?
They announced Civ 7 which I'll likely be playing for the next several years so I'm good.
Re: Classic GTA Game Now Part of PS Plus Extra on PS5, PS4
Taken away and brought back again.
Re: Sony Trolls Bloodborne Stans with Astro Bot PS5 Pre-Order Bonus
"Put it on PC but take the Sony out of it!!"