I honestly believe the fact that it is a direct sequel has lowered sales more than people think. Does anyone consider this a game to jump into without playing the first? People who have the first on their waiting list (very possible with RPG fans) prob wouldn't even consider it as an impulse buy until they've played 1.
@Alexface the servers are down I think, which likely means that hardly anyones playing them, as sharing your levels was the main focus of the lbp series.
Road 96 is a really cool game with an unusual premise and tons of style that'd i'd recommend people try. Quite well suited for extra too, as it's quite short.
If it still has to communicate with the playstation, then wireless seems a little pointless to be honest. You're still going to have to be near your ps5. That said, I find it hard to believe a completely standalone one is in the works, one that offers the same quality as psvr2 would cost a fortune to make, assuming it's even currently possible.
It'll prob sell anyway, I personally will skip though I think. I got a PS4 pro, and never really figured out what I bought it for. Maybe my TV wasn't good enough or something. I can kind of understand the price, the glory days of rapidly advancing tech and fast dropping prices seem to be over. Even the disc drive, I guess we should just be glad the option is still there. Not including a stand is a joke though, as is Sony seemingly forgetting how currency conversion works.
@Azuris the nes game isn't that bad, difficulty wise if you take the time to learn the quirks, I beat it back in the day. People understandably don't want to do that with such an old game though.
@get2sammyb playstation (and the other consoles) pretty much opened the door wide for indie games on PS4 onwards, which I guess removed the point of minis. I loved canabalt though, still go back to it sometimes.
People always use that street fighter example. But Nintendo/Capcom charged that price back then simply because they could get away with it. It was more expensive than other snes games because they knew people would pay anything for it. Games have become a lot more mass market since then. If 100 people want a game that costs 100000 to develop, then that's a £1000 each. If a 1000 want it, that's a £100 each. Though the audience has stopped growing by the sounds of it, that is perhaps why developers can't rely on growth to keep the prices stagnant any more.
Some of those games certainly being back some memories, especially the spectrum and c64 ones. I feel like playing head over heels right now lol. But I tend to agree that it seems a bit weird to be streaming them.
@Haruki_NLI yes, the Wii u and 3ds closed for purchases early last year, and online functionality a couple months ago. You can still download purchased games, but that's about it. Wii u in particular seemed to have a very short life. Yes I know it was same fen as PS3, but it came out a lot later. Though I think Nintendo fans tend to be more inclined to stay physical than other systems.
I think the ps+ premium streaming still relies on the PS3 network doesn't it? In that case, they may as well leave it accessable if it's staying up anyway. That said, I don't really understand why other systems close the ability to purchase if they are keeping the ability to download purchased stuff on anyway. If the frameworks still there might as well let people use it, a few sales are better than no sales?
@NEStalgia I feel you are underestimating just how much supporting so many studios costs, and the impact gamepass could potentially have on those studios traditional forms of revenue. But as ms do not release any figures, this is a debate that will never end.
@NEStalgia I'm pretty sure that noone except ms know if gamepass is actually profitable or not. You need a VERY high revenue to support the amount of publishers they now own.
Minecraft has lots of potential to be better with more power. Just because it's blocky doesn't mean it doesn't use resources. Draw distance is my first thought, it actually has quite a short distance on the PS4 version, the details like npcs and buildings disappear from not too far away.
@sanderson72 yes I'd personally have thought PS4 would've made sense. A lot of the games target audience are probably still using their parents hand me down ps4s.
Surely producing and transporting empty boxes around doesn't cost much (any?) more than transporting a box with a disc in it? But I'm no economist I guess.
Does seem a bit odd that they aren't remaking 1. I could understand 2 and 3 first, as they had the most outdated graphics. But 4 and now these two before a 1 remake that reason has gone.
@FEWGEE1 it's strange, you'd think the selected games would be there for less points than the vouchers. But no, the vouchers are usually the same or sometimes even better value than them. I've never seen a reason to go for one of the games instead.
@__jamiie their responses to direct questions about these franchises has been very evasive. They talk about established audiences but wouldn't commit to any particular franchise being guaranteed to stay multiplat. It's pretty safe to assume they are making sure their options are open.
@MrMagic Mad Max has always had plenty of people who thought it was great, myself included. Most of it's detractors seem to be people from the 'i hate open world games now' bandwagon.
Yeah if this article isn't click bait then I'm not sure what the purpose is. Seems the writer of it enjoyed the game a lot more than many of the actual reviewers. If there was a bit more focus on why it's not on playstation (though we all know that anyway) maybe it'd have a purpose, but it just reads like a glowing review of the game.
@Icey664 last of us is holding it's physical resale value too, which is very unusual for a big title single player playstation game. And definitely unusual for a title that drew so much (public) negativity when it first came out.
@rjejr I think early access originally came from steam. Programmers (primarily indie) would put their games out unfinished, so they could raise funds to support finishing it. Which is fair enough as long as everyone knows what they are getting into. Microsoft early access is just them having their cake and eating it. Claiming day one gamepass, then putting it up for sale on day 'minus 7' or whatever.
@Secryt every time somebody brings up game pass price here, there's always someone claiming they are getting it for free or heavily discounted. It really is a mystery how much revenue it is generating. One that Microsoft seem unwilling to clear up.
@MrBook yes CoDs an odd one. Apparently the biggest game out there yet I know noone who plays it. It's not even (afaik) big with children like say Roblox or fortnite.
@ATaco someone who has only watched this show probably won't be too bothered, TV audiences are fairly used to surprise deaths nowadays.
The emotional response of the story could only have happened in video game culture I think.
I really enjoyed it. If you are a marvel fan, I'd strongly suggest at least giving it a try even if it doesn't look like something you'd like on the surface.
It's crazy to wonder how far ai will go. If it reaches the point where someone can type 'make me a football game with x parameters' and the ai just churns one out, then is anyone even going to want to pay for it?
I think the problem is the rotating nature of them. With ps+ basic, at least you get some feeling of ownership because they stay in your library indefinitely after you've claimed them. Even my old PS3 games that I claimed 10 years ago are still accessable.
The new model, you don't even know if the game is going to around long enough to even finish it. You feel like you are playing on some hidden time limit, which I don't think most people like.
Playstation has a history of being a bit barren in the first half of it's consoles life, then tons of great games in the second, but yeah it has seemed even slower than usual lately.
@tomic20 I think it's something that needs to be there right at the start to avoid things like this. Sure they may have had reasons for delaying it, but it's not something you can insert after everyone's bought it already.
@rjejr dreams isn't monetizesd it's just people making stuff for fun/display talent as far as I know. No idea how Fortnite/Minecraft works. The basic idea is fine I think, an engine for aspiring programmers/creators to make some money and learn to program. But seems from my limited understanding of Roblox, claims of those people being taken advantage is muddying the concept somewhat.
TVs appear to the recurring theme here and other frame rate debates, I personally am not that bothered, I appreciate a console has only so much power, something's got to go sometimes if you are making a game that is more ambitious in other areas, graphics, ai etc. That said, Im using a fairly old TV that wasn't even that expensive in the first place.
@Melee_Ace it's definitely not the difficulty as far as ESO is concerned. If anything I think it may be too easy, although that seems to be a very hot topic among the ESO fanbase judging by forums. They seem to like it that way, apparently the dungeons are where the challenge is.
Coincidentally I tried it again last week, saw a tempting sale price. My level 50 character from the launch days was still there, but I had no idea what was going on, so I've started a new one. Feeling a little underwhelmed so far to be honest, maybe it's best not to go back sometimes.
@NEStalgia the cartoons and merchandise of Nintendo weren't really a thing in the UK back then. Before the snes and megadrive, home computers like the spectrum, c64, Amiga were the UK gamers preferred gaming machines, thanks mostly to their affordability. Nes, Atari etc were around but they didn't have the same user base as America apparently had.
I mean, if you are looking at the whole history of video games, Lara croft possibly deserves it just for how huge she was in the 90s. There's an argument that she led the jump to mainstream. Agent 47 though, uhh...
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Re: PS5 Exclusives Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Failed to Meet Expectations
I honestly believe the fact that it is a direct sequel has lowered sales more than people think. Does anyone consider this a game to jump into without playing the first? People who have the first on their waiting list (very possible with RPG fans) prob wouldn't even consider it as an impulse buy until they've played 1.
Re: 10 Major PS5, PS4 Games Are Getting Axed from PS Plus Extra, Including LittleBigPlanet 3
@Alexface the servers are down I think, which likely means that hardly anyones playing them, as sharing your levels was the main focus of the lbp series.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for September 2024?
Road 96 is a really cool game with an unusual premise and tons of style that'd i'd recommend people try. Quite well suited for extra too, as it's quite short.
Re: PS5 Fans Think Sony's Accidentally Leaked a Wireless PSVR2 Headset
If it still has to communicate with the playstation, then wireless seems a little pointless to be honest. You're still going to have to be near your ps5.
That said, I find it hard to believe a completely standalone one is in the works, one that offers the same quality as psvr2 would cost a fortune to make, assuming it's even currently possible.
Re: Talking Point: Is PS5 Pro Way Too Expensive?
It'll prob sell anyway, I personally will skip though I think. I got a PS4 pro, and never really figured out what I bought it for. Maybe my TV wasn't good enough or something.
I can kind of understand the price, the glory days of rapidly advancing tech and fast dropping prices seem to be over. Even the disc drive, I guess we should just be glad the option is still there.
Not including a stand is a joke though, as is Sony seemingly forgetting how currency conversion works.
Re: Antstream Arcade (PS5) - Instantly Add 1,300 Retro Releases to Your Console Collection
@Azuris the nes game isn't that bad, difficulty wise if you take the time to learn the quirks, I beat it back in the day. People understandably don't want to do that with such an old game though.
Re: Antstream Arcade (PS5) - Instantly Add 1,300 Retro Releases to Your Console Collection
@get2sammyb playstation (and the other consoles) pretty much opened the door wide for indie games on PS4 onwards, which I guess removed the point of minis. I loved canabalt though, still go back to it sometimes.
Re: How Much Would You Pay for Your PS5 Games? Dev Says Industry Is Waiting for GTA 6 to Hike Prices
People always use that street fighter example. But Nintendo/Capcom charged that price back then simply because they could get away with it. It was more expensive than other snes games because they knew people would pay anything for it.
Games have become a lot more mass market since then. If 100 people want a game that costs 100000 to develop, then that's a £1000 each. If a 1000 want it, that's a £100 each.
Though the audience has stopped growing by the sounds of it, that is perhaps why developers can't rely on growth to keep the prices stagnant any more.
Re: Get a BFG of Your Very Own with Physical DOOM Anthology Preorder on PS5, PS4
That's super shady, the download code bit only mentioned right at the end. And a steel book to distract you. Come on doom you are better than this.
Re: Antstream Lets You Stream 1000s of Retro Games, and It's Coming to PS5, PS4
@PuppetMaster it's 40 bucks a year I think. Or 100 for lifetime access, or however long the service lasts.
Re: Antstream Lets You Stream 1000s of Retro Games, and It's Coming to PS5, PS4
Some of those games certainly being back some memories, especially the spectrum and c64 ones. I feel like playing head over heels right now lol.
But I tend to agree that it seems a bit weird to be streaming them.
Re: Minecraft's Latest DLC Turns Tetris into a Dungeon Crawler
Not even sure what this is after the article and the video lol, but I do like Minecraft and I love Tetris, so I'll prob get it anyway.
Re: Random: PS3 Last Seventh Generation Console Standing with Functional Storefront
@Haruki_NLI yes, the Wii u and 3ds closed for purchases early last year, and online functionality a couple months ago. You can still download purchased games, but that's about it.
Wii u in particular seemed to have a very short life. Yes I know it was same fen as PS3, but it came out a lot later.
Though I think Nintendo fans tend to be more inclined to stay physical than other systems.
Re: Random: PS3 Last Seventh Generation Console Standing with Functional Storefront
I think the ps+ premium streaming still relies on the PS3 network doesn't it? In that case, they may as well leave it accessable if it's staying up anyway.
That said, I don't really understand why other systems close the ability to purchase if they are keeping the ability to download purchased stuff on anyway. If the frameworks still there might as well let people use it, a few sales are better than no sales?
Re: Talking Point: Was Sony Right to Resist Adding PS5 Exclusives to PS Plus Day One?
@NEStalgia I feel you are underestimating just how much supporting so many studios costs, and the impact gamepass could potentially have on those studios traditional forms of revenue. But as ms do not release any figures, this is a debate that will never end.
Re: Talking Point: Was Sony Right to Resist Adding PS5 Exclusives to PS Plus Day One?
@NEStalgia I'm pretty sure that noone except ms know if gamepass is actually profitable or not. You need a VERY high revenue to support the amount of publishers they now own.
Re: Mojang Is Building a Native PS5 Version of Minecraft, And It Needs Your Help
Minecraft has lots of potential to be better with more power. Just because it's blocky doesn't mean it doesn't use resources. Draw distance is my first thought, it actually has quite a short distance on the PS4 version, the details like npcs and buildings disappear from not too far away.
Re: Random: Euro 2024's Italy Manager Insists His Squad Isn't Banned from PS5
@Mostik I couldn't explain it myself, music expert stuff that flew over my head. There's articles still on the internet about it though I'm sure.
Re: Random: Euro 2024's Italy Manager Insists His Squad Isn't Banned from PS5
@Mostik I've seen quite a few articles from music sites, yeah the ps1 is considered to be a really good cd player among the audio lovers.
Re: Some PlayStation Fans Are Losing Their Minds Over LEGO Horizon Being on Switch
@sanderson72 yes I'd personally have thought PS4 would've made sense. A lot of the games target audience are probably still using their parents hand me down ps4s.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Physical Editions Won't Have Actual Discs at Launch, Just Digital Codes
Surely producing and transporting empty boxes around doesn't cost much (any?) more than transporting a box with a disc in it?
But I'm no economist I guess.
Re: Capcom Making Resident Evil 0, Code Veronica Remakes Next, Reports Say
@jmac1686 I remember playing 0 on GameCube, and being so impressed by the moving train graphics I sat there and watched it for like half an hour lol.
Edit : I was far more easily impressed back then. I thought Code Veronica's opening movie was the coolest thing I'd ever seen.
Re: Capcom Making Resident Evil 0, Code Veronica Remakes Next, Reports Say
Does seem a bit odd that they aren't remaking 1. I could understand 2 and 3 first, as they had the most outdated graphics. But 4 and now these two before a 1 remake that reason has gone.
Re: PS5's Sublime Stellar Blade Can Now Be Yours with PS Stars Points
@FEWGEE1 it's strange, you'd think the selected games would be there for less points than the vouchers. But no, the vouchers are usually the same or sometimes even better value than them. I've never seen a reason to go for one of the games instead.
Re: Rumour: New DOOM Game Reveal at Xbox Showcase, Coming to PS5
@__jamiie their responses to direct questions about these franchises has been very evasive. They talk about established audiences but wouldn't commit to any particular franchise being guaranteed to stay multiplat. It's pretty safe to assume they are making sure their options are open.
Re: Rumour: New DOOM Game Reveal at Xbox Showcase, Coming to PS5
Well I'll give Microsoft some credit for a change, Doom is so rooted in gamer culture I'm glad it's staying multiplat.
Re: Hideo Kojima Is Mad Max Director George Miller's First Choice for a Video Game Adaption
@MrMagic Mad Max has always had plenty of people who thought it was great, myself included.
Most of it's detractors seem to be people from the 'i hate open world games now' bandwagon.
Re: Soapbox: Once a PS4 Console Exclusive, PS5 Players Are Missing a Visual Stunner in Hellblade 2
Yeah if this article isn't click bait then I'm not sure what the purpose is. Seems the writer of it enjoyed the game a lot more than many of the actual reviewers.
If there was a bit more focus on why it's not on playstation (though we all know that anyway) maybe it'd have a purpose, but it just reads like a glowing review of the game.
Re: Over 2,000 Big PS5, PS4 Games Going Cheap in New PS Store Sale
@Icey664 last of us is holding it's physical resale value too, which is very unusual for a big title single player playstation game. And definitely unusual for a title that drew so much (public) negativity when it first came out.
Re: Microsoft Commits to Next Call of Duty Game on Xbox Game Pass, New Report Says
@rjejr I think early access originally came from steam. Programmers (primarily indie) would put their games out unfinished, so they could raise funds to support finishing it. Which is fair enough as long as everyone knows what they are getting into.
Microsoft early access is just them having their cake and eating it. Claiming day one gamepass, then putting it up for sale on day 'minus 7' or whatever.
Re: Microsoft Commits to Next Call of Duty Game on Xbox Game Pass, New Report Says
@rjejr yes 'early access' is near guaranteed.
Re: Microsoft Commits to Next Call of Duty Game on Xbox Game Pass, New Report Says
@Secryt every time somebody brings up game pass price here, there's always someone claiming they are getting it for free or heavily discounted. It really is a mystery how much revenue it is generating. One that Microsoft seem unwilling to clear up.
Re: Microsoft Commits to Next Call of Duty Game on Xbox Game Pass, New Report Says
@MrBook yes CoDs an odd one. Apparently the biggest game out there yet I know noone who plays it. It's not even (afaik) big with children like say Roblox or fortnite.
Re: Here's Your First Official Look at HBO's The Last of Us Season 2
@ATaco someone who has only watched this show probably won't be too bothered, TV audiences are fairly used to surprise deaths nowadays.
The emotional response of the story could only have happened in video game culture I think.
Re: Strategy Legend Jake Solomon Explains Where Marvel's Midnight Suns Went Wrong
I really enjoyed it. If you are a marvel fan, I'd strongly suggest at least giving it a try even if it doesn't look like something you'd like on the surface.
Re: Poll: Years Later, How Do You Feel About PlayStation's PC Strategy?
I was worried it would devalue the brand a bit, but I appear to have been proven wrong, so I'm down to don't really care now.
Re: Warner Bros Revenue Plummets as Suicide Squad Falls Completely Short of Hogwarts Legacy
@Haruki_NLI I guess it must have a fanbase, somewhere.
Re: Warner Bros Revenue Plummets as Suicide Squad Falls Completely Short of Hogwarts Legacy
I just want Mad Max 2. I'll even tolerate a few micro transactions if they must.
Re: There's a 'Real Hunger' for AI to Make Game Dev More Efficient, Says EA Boss
It's crazy to wonder how far ai will go. If it reaches the point where someone can type 'make me a football game with x parameters' and the ai just churns one out, then is anyone even going to want to pay for it?
Re: Gaming Subs Like PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass Aren't Growing At All
I think the problem is the rotating nature of them. With ps+ basic, at least you get some feeling of ownership because they stay in your library indefinitely after you've claimed them. Even my old PS3 games that I claimed 10 years ago are still accessable.
The new model, you don't even know if the game is going to around long enough to even finish it. You feel like you are playing on some hidden time limit, which I don't think most people like.
Re: PS5 Fans Mostly Happy with Sony's Third-Party Deals, But PlayStation Studios Need to Step Up
Playstation has a history of being a bit barren in the first half of it's consoles life, then tons of great games in the second, but yeah it has seemed even slower than usual lately.
Re: Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement Backtracked on PC After Brutal Review Bombing Campaign
@tomic20 I think it's something that needs to be there right at the start to avoid things like this. Sure they may have had reasons for delaying it, but it's not something you can insert after everyone's bought it already.
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Care About 60fps on PS5?
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Re: Roblox Boss Insists Payment Model Not Child Labour Exploitation, Says It's a 'Gift'
@rjejr dreams isn't monetizesd it's just people making stuff for fun/display talent as far as I know. No idea how Fortnite/Minecraft works.
The basic idea is fine I think, an engine for aspiring programmers/creators to make some money and learn to program. But seems from my limited understanding of Roblox, claims of those people being taken advantage is muddying the concept somewhat.
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Care About 60fps on PS5?
TVs appear to the recurring theme here and other frame rate debates, I personally am not that bothered, I appreciate a console has only so much power, something's got to go sometimes if you are making a game that is more ambitious in other areas, graphics, ai etc.
That said, Im using a fairly old TV that wasn't even that expensive in the first place.
Re: PS5, PS4 MMO The Elder Scrolls Online Reaches Landmark 10th Anniversary
@Melee_Ace it's definitely not the difficulty as far as ESO is concerned. If anything I think it may be too easy, although that seems to be a very hot topic among the ESO fanbase judging by forums. They seem to like it that way, apparently the dungeons are where the challenge is.
Re: Tekken 8 Boss Says Younger Players Prefer Team-Based Games Because They Can Blame Losses on Others
I agree that 1v1 is added stress, but I think that applies to everyone, not just the younger generation.
Re: PS5, PS4 MMO The Elder Scrolls Online Reaches Landmark 10th Anniversary
Coincidentally I tried it again last week, saw a tempting sale price. My level 50 character from the launch days was still there, but I had no idea what was going on, so I've started a new one. Feeling a little underwhelmed so far to be honest, maybe it's best not to go back sometimes.
Re: Random: Lara Croft Tops Mario as the Most Iconic Video Game Character of All Time, Apparently
@NEStalgia the cartoons and merchandise of Nintendo weren't really a thing in the UK back then. Before the snes and megadrive, home computers like the spectrum, c64, Amiga were the UK gamers preferred gaming machines, thanks mostly to their affordability. Nes, Atari etc were around but they didn't have the same user base as America apparently had.
Re: Random: Lara Croft Tops Mario as the Most Iconic Video Game Character of All Time, Apparently
I mean, if you are looking at the whole history of video games, Lara croft possibly deserves it just for how huge she was in the 90s. There's an argument that she led the jump to mainstream.
Agent 47 though, uhh...