@UltimateOtaku91 TBH they should've lead with that. Imagine how lesser the backlash would be if the trailer was like "TLoU Part 2 Complete Edition, upgrade from your PS4 version for 10 bucks or buy it new for 70".
Sometimes it feels like when Shawn left half of the marketing team went with him.
Does TLoU2 need a remaster? No. Will I buy it? Also no, its asinine to relaunch a $70 dollar game released less than half a decade ago, put some """upgrades""" on it and call it a remaster.
Just vote with your wallets people, the sound of money going away is stronger than any words you can utter.
@OldGamer999 While it is a development problem, it isn't one related to hardware. Its more on the game design/demographic side.
Xbox games are so NA-centric they fail to sell anywhere else in the world. And while selling on NA is good enough, it literally dooms your product in the long run.
Nintendo games are not tied to a specific demographic and they sell practically everywhere, Sony games gets so much flak but they aren't tied to a specific public and they still sell everywhere else. MS games feels like they are tied to a specific public: your average 13~30yr dude bro who plays mostly FPS.
@themightyant Kinda of a self-fulfiling prophecy if it comes to that.
Anyways, unlike Hollywood, game industry can simply tell SAG-AFTRA to stick their strike where the sun doesn't shine and outsource VA, Mocap and similar stuff to other countries.
I honestly find this statement from the "preservation community" quite ironic given that they praise MS a lot, the same company that sells you a console that requires an internet connection for the first boot and will phone home on a constant basis to validate even you physical copies.
Anyways, this was expected no? I mean, you know how many hacks and expoits were made using disc drivers? Of course a detachable disc drive would come with some kind of DRM.
Of course they are masterpieces, they're not made by Xbox Studios.
Jokes aside, or not given the sorry state of Xbox games, both games did the basic homework and build upon successful past experiences, the chances of them failing were slim to none at all.
It is mostly for movies though. Anyways, I agree that it will hardly affect Nintendo and Sony, after all unlike Xbox those consoles sell outside US and physical media is still a thing for most countries.
Let me just say this: when Iger left the company was at its peak and the smooth brains who pushed ideas that literally made Disney drop from the peak are the ones pushing this idea too.
No need to say their opinion shouldn't be heard, anyone with 2 brain cells working knows that the model Disney has right now doesn't generate huge revenues, but it does generate profit, CONSTANT profit mind you. Right now Disney doesn't need to deal with development costs, advertising nor anything related to game development, they just license their IPs and collect royalties. No costs, only profit, small but constant profit.
On the other hand, spoilers for Spidey games are usually predictable.
I mean, its a black suit arc, its bound to have Peter going ham and someone close to him either kicking the bucket or getting hurt directly or indirectly by Peter.
I mean, its not impossible for Sony to make a good live service game, but instead of relying on new IP they should just invest in the IPs they already have.
Killzone could have a SP campaign while keeping the MP side a live service, same thing with Resistance. Hells, even Horizon could have a live service MP game inspired by MonHun, where you create your character, go around chasing robot dinossaurs and use robot dinossaur part to upgrade your weapon/armor, better yet, it could be a standalone F2P game.
Is it that surprising? I mean, almost no company is like MS who has the money to keep flopped GaaS, like Halo Infinite and Sea of Thieves, going around.
The timing of this announcement might seem odd, but given the fact the guy has been working with Sony for 30 years I wouldn't be surprised if this was a just a simple retirement.
Anyways, 30 years is more age than most bots complaining about him probably have.
The strike probably won't happen because unlike other industries the game industry can, and will, outsource any part that becomes a hindrance or bottleneck.
So yeah, a strike happening on US will probably mean outsourcing it to UK/Canada/Australia/etc.
Good for devs? Yeah, agreed, less SKUs to develop for. Better for players? No way in hell.
Also, here's a simple solution: the industry should embrace more open source alternatives and make them the standard in any software or hardware available in the market.
@Nem Microsoft strategy of having two very different SKUs and forcing devs to develop for both usually comes and bites them back at the weirdest momments possible.
Or it could be Greenberg's marketing team at it again. Because I've been hearing the same story even before the PS5 launched and it always points out to some very specific and very isolated cases.
Ya know, this smells like teen BS. Specially when we now know that MS has deep pockets and could easily outbid Sony in any exclusivity deal, they just choose not to.
It was a solid alright, a solid 6/10. Let's be real, most people only watched it for No Man's Skyrim and the game wasn't as near as mind blowing as they said it would be.
Gee Ubisoft, I wonder why. Let's see: You said you were working on a Sands of Time remake. You know people WANT Sands of Time remake. You show up, say there's Prince of Persia news and it is a totally unrelated game to Sands of Time that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE asked for.
Yeah, no wonder people are out with pitchforks and torches. And no matter what they want to paint, this isnt a case of people "not liking a character because he's black", but rather a simple case of a company lacking common sense enough to see this isn't the best time to announce any PoP game that isn't Sands of Time remake.
It really depends, for me it was a solid 3/10. A showcase is supposed to show what your own projects, alongside some big projects from third party partners, we didn't even get a Days of Play or any kind of annoucement related to PSN.
Instead half of the showcase was indie games that could be shown in a State of Play, a handheld accessory that nobody asked for and has no public and a teaser for a movie no one wants to watch.
Best? No, it was awful, one of, if not, THE WORST showcase I've ever seen. There was almost no first party content, the saving grace was literally Spider-Man 2.
If you don't have any big guns to shoot then simply don't shoot. If this was a State of Play people would be more forgiving.
Well, ToTK is pretty much the confirmed GOTY for 2023, of course people would congratulate and even mention this game. As for devs, I can bet a house most of them are playing ToTK and taking notes on how to improve their own game, one way or another.
The news itself isn't as interesting as the fact that a bunch of sites were proven wrong. Most of news outlets have been reporting that "CMA is most likely to approve the deal" since last week.
Wonder who their source was and how much MS paid for it.
Just a reminder: raising prices is a common practice on Steam, especially if people are changing their store region just to capitalize on some cheap games in certain regions.
But then again, some people like to go ape mode once they see the name Sony, they don't read, nor research, just complain and go "unga bunga Jim Ryan unga bunga".
Also, he didn't show any examples from other console manufacturers, how can we be sure Nintendo, Microsoft or other companies aren't using the same terms but with different wording?
Y'know, if there was something wrong with the terminology used the patent wouldn't be granted, because they do like to nitpick every single word just to make sure it doesn't break another patent.
I thought a supposed "specialist" would know that.
I kinda wish discoverability was the only problem here, but the underlying issue lies on the fact that Sony marketing team turned Playstation into a premium brand. People who buy premium brands usually want a perceived value with each purchase they do, and indie games perceived value isn't quite upfront if compared to an AAA game.
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Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Remaster Announced, Has a Brand New Survival Mode, $10 Upgrade Path
@UltimateOtaku91
TBH they should've lead with that.
Imagine how lesser the backlash would be if the trailer was like "TLoU Part 2 Complete Edition, upgrade from your PS4 version for 10 bucks or buy it new for 70".
Sometimes it feels like when Shawn left half of the marketing team went with him.
Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Remaster Leaks, Has a Brand New Survival Mode, Cut Levels
Does TLoU2 need a remaster? No.
Will I buy it? Also no, its asinine to relaunch a $70 dollar game released less than half a decade ago, put some """upgrades""" on it and call it a remaster.
Just vote with your wallets people, the sound of money going away is stronger than any words you can utter.
Re: Sony Takes Control of UK as PS5 Climbs to 51% Market Share
@OldGamer999
While it is a development problem, it isn't one related to hardware. Its more on the game design/demographic side.
Xbox games are so NA-centric they fail to sell anywhere else in the world. And while selling on NA is good enough, it literally dooms your product in the long run.
Nintendo games are not tied to a specific demographic and they sell practically everywhere, Sony games gets so much flak but they aren't tied to a specific public and they still sell everywhere else.
MS games feels like they are tied to a specific public: your average 13~30yr dude bro who plays mostly FPS.
Re: Sony Has Stopped Updating PS Plus' Subscriber Numbers
A decline isn't as bad as growing stale, investors actually hate the latter and see some prospect in the former.
If Sony hasn't published a number its probably on the same boat as MS: the numbers have gone stale.
Re: GTA 6 Will Not Be Delayed if Voice Actors Eventually Strike
@themightyant
Kinda of a self-fulfiling prophecy if it comes to that.
Anyways, unlike Hollywood, game industry can simply tell SAG-AFTRA to stick their strike where the sun doesn't shine and outsource VA, Mocap and similar stuff to other countries.
Re: Sony on PS Plus Price Increase: We Want to Make PlayStation Plus Great
A lot of words just to say: "We had to increase price due to worldwide inflation going on"
Re: You'll Need an Internet Connection to Pair PS5 Slim's Optional Blu-ray Drive
I honestly find this statement from the "preservation community" quite ironic given that they praise MS a lot, the same company that sells you a console that requires an internet connection for the first boot and will phone home on a constant basis to validate even you physical copies.
Anyways, this was expected no? I mean, you know how many hacks and expoits were made using disc drivers? Of course a detachable disc drive would come with some kind of DRM.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Is a PS5 Masterpiece, According to Super Smash Bros Maker
Of course they are masterpieces, they're not made by Xbox Studios.
Jokes aside, or not given the sorry state of Xbox games, both games did the basic homework and build upon successful past experiences, the chances of them failing were slim to none at all.
Re: Looks Like Sony's the Latest to Be Struck by a Slew of Layoffs
The incentives most companies had to keep people employed during the pandemic aren't here anymore, expect heavy layoff across the industry.
Re: Tekken Tournament at UK's Biggest Gaming Expo Gets Interrupted by Just Stop Oil Protestors
I think they deserve a beating, no more, no less.
Wanna make a change? Go be a researcher or something, advocate for oil alternatives, etc.
Re: Sony's Allegedly Testing a Super-Secret Soulsborne for PS5
I hope it isn't Rise of Ronin.
I'd rather have a new dev trying a new entry in the genre than a Team Ninja game.
Those guys tried 4 times already and never got the formula right.
Re: US Retail Giant Best Buy Allegedly Binning Physical Media
It is mostly for movies though.
Anyways, I agree that it will hardly affect Nintendo and Sony, after all unlike Xbox those consoles sell outside US and physical media is still a thing for most countries.
Re: PSN Suffered an Enormous Outage Over Night
Oh, that's why I was booted from my BG3 co-op run.
I was able to resume the run an hour after though.
Re: Disney CEO Reportedly Being Pressured to Double Down on Gaming
Let me just say this: when Iger left the company was at its peak and the smooth brains who pushed ideas that literally made Disney drop from the peak are the ones pushing this idea too.
No need to say their opinion shouldn't be heard, anyone with 2 brain cells working knows that the model Disney has right now doesn't generate huge revenues, but it does generate profit, CONSTANT profit mind you.
Right now Disney doesn't need to deal with development costs, advertising nor anything related to game development, they just license their IPs and collect royalties. No costs, only profit, small but constant profit.
Re: PS5 Slim Doesn't Come with a Vertical Stand, Needs to Be Bought Separately
That ain't something new though, I've yet to see a Slim version with a vertical stand included.
Re: Major Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Spoilers Have Started Flooding Online
On the other hand, spoilers for Spidey games are usually predictable.
I mean, its a black suit arc, its bound to have Peter going ham and someone close to him either kicking the bucket or getting hurt directly or indirectly by Peter.
Re: PlayStation's Push for Live Service Games Hasn't Been Going Smoothly
I mean, its not impossible for Sony to make a good live service game, but instead of relying on new IP they should just invest in the IPs they already have.
Killzone could have a SP campaign while keeping the MP side a live service, same thing with Resistance.
Hells, even Horizon could have a live service MP game inspired by MonHun, where you create your character, go around chasing robot dinossaurs and use robot dinossaur part to upgrade your weapon/armor, better yet, it could be a standalone F2P game.
Re: PS5's Console Exclusive Knights of the Old Republic Remake Is Being Nuked from the Internet
Nuking like that just means that both Aspyr and Saber builds were unable to meet the minimum criteria for both Sony and Disney.
How two devs could be this incompetent is beyond me.
Re: First-Party Firesprite's Dark PS5 Horror Could Be Due in 2025
Last "horror" game from Sony I've played was Until Dawn.
Makes me wonder if this new game is a Siren reboot.
Re: Another High Profile Live Service Flop As SEGA Pulls the Plug on HYENAS Before Launch
Is it that surprising? I mean, almost no company is like MS who has the money to keep flopped GaaS, like Halo Infinite and Sea of Thieves, going around.
Re: Jim Ryan Retires as PlayStation Boss in March 2024
The timing of this announcement might seem odd, but given the fact the guy has been working with Sony for 30 years I wouldn't be surprised if this was a just a simple retirement.
Anyways, 30 years is more age than most bots complaining about him probably have.
Re: A Video Game Actors Strike Could Happen Following Union Vote for Action
The strike probably won't happen because unlike other industries the game industry can, and will, outsource any part that becomes a hindrance or bottleneck.
So yeah, a strike happening on US will probably mean outsourcing it to UK/Canada/Australia/etc.
Re: Sony Has Allegedly Suffered a Huge Hack by Ransomware Group
The story doesn't add up.
They claim to be a legit white hat group but then acts like a red hat one.
Re: Microsoft One Step Closer to Activision Buyout as CMA Approves of Deal Changes
I'm just wondering why open two separate consultations if the only concern was cloud gaming.
Maybe the leaked emails did more damage than we thought?
Re: PS Plus Essential, Extra, Premium Price Increases Announced by Sony
Just a reminder that a $30 increase might mean 3x or even 5x depending on what country you're in.
That was definitely a bad move from Sony.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Producer Reckons One Gaming Platform Would Be Better for Everyone
Good for devs? Yeah, agreed, less SKUs to develop for.
Better for players? No way in hell.
Also, here's a simple solution: the industry should embrace more open source alternatives and make them the standard in any software or hardware available in the market.
Re: You Can Now Buy PS Plus Premium Classics Tekken 2, Ridge Racer Type 4, More
Does Ridge Racer work with a racing wheel?
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Feast Continues, Cracks Steam's Top 10 Most Played Games List
@Nem Microsoft strategy of having two very different SKUs and forcing devs to develop for both usually comes and bites them back at the weirdest momments possible.
Re: Kickstarter Demands Proof of Humanity, Requires New Projects to Disclose AI Use
What's next? Amazon wanting a proof of humanity for me to buy a hammer and a couple of nails?
AI is a tool, its here to stay. Senior devs and artists are already experimenting with it.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Is Overheating and Crashing PS5 Consoles Completely
Or it could be Greenberg's marketing team at it again.
Because I've been hearing the same story even before the PS5 launched and it always points out to some very specific and very isolated cases.
Re: Xbox Insinuates It Bought Bethesda to Block Starfield PS5 Console Exclusivity
Ya know, this smells like teen BS.
Specially when we now know that MS has deep pockets and could easily outbid Sony in any exclusivity deal, they just choose not to.
Re: Sony Eager to Ensure PS Plus Remains Relevant and Offers More Value
Overall I'm good with what they offer on PS Plus, what I do wish is something totally unrelated to PS Plus: folders and themes for PS5.
Re: Reaction: Solid Xbox Showcase Should Give Sony Some Incentive to Stop Being So Damn Cloak and Daggers About PS5, PS4
It was a solid alright, a solid 6/10.
Let's be real, most people only watched it for No Man's Skyrim and the game wasn't as near as mind blowing as they said it would be.
Re: Apparently Some People Hate the New PS5, PS4 Prince of Persia Game
Gee Ubisoft, I wonder why. Let's see:
You said you were working on a Sands of Time remake.
You know people WANT Sands of Time remake.
You show up, say there's Prince of Persia news and it is a totally unrelated game to Sands of Time that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE asked for.
Yeah, no wonder people are out with pitchforks and torches.
And no matter what they want to paint, this isnt a case of people "not liking a character because he's black", but rather a simple case of a company lacking common sense enough to see this isn't the best time to announce any PoP game that isn't Sands of Time remake.
Re: Square Enix Allegedly 'Slightly Panicking' About Final Fantasy 16 PS5 Pre-Orders
There's also the fact that people are waiting for the demo before hitting that pre-order button.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Street Fighter 6?
I kinda wanna play SF6 but it has been years since I last played a fighting game and I don't really enjoy playing it on a gamepad.
Re: PlayStation Showcase Completely Divided Fan Opinion
It really depends, for me it was a solid 3/10.
A showcase is supposed to show what your own projects, alongside some big projects from third party partners, we didn't even get a Days of Play or any kind of annoucement related to PSN.
Instead half of the showcase was indie games that could be shown in a State of Play, a handheld accessory that nobody asked for and has no public and a teaser for a movie no one wants to watch.
Re: Poll: Was This Sony's Best PlayStation Showcase Yet?
Best? No, it was awful, one of, if not, THE WORST showcase I've ever seen. There was almost no first party content, the saving grace was literally Spider-Man 2.
If you don't have any big guns to shoot then simply don't shoot.
If this was a State of Play people would be more forgiving.
Re: PSVR2 Sales at 600,000 Six Weeks After Launch, Sony Confirms
Wanna know the funny part? It sold more than Xbox series on that same time period.
Re: Rumour: Persona 3 Remake Reveal May Be Coming Next Month
People say it might appear on MS showcase, but SEGA still can do its own showcase on SGF, like Capcom did last year.
Re: Microsoft's $69 Billion Activision Deal Approved by the EU Commission
Given MS record with acquisitions, expect a CoD: Redfall edition very soon.
Re: Not Even Sony's Been Able to Avoid the Enormous Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Hype
Well, ToTK is pretty much the confirmed GOTY for 2023, of course people would congratulate and even mention this game.
As for devs, I can bet a house most of them are playing ToTK and taking notes on how to improve their own game, one way or another.
Re: PS5 Pro Is '100%' Happening, Says Reliable Report
If anything Pro version would be more focused into tech rather than raw performance improvements, things like RT, FSR and Freesync.
The problem here is that most of this could be also added to base PS5 via firmware updates and updates to Sony's API.
Re: Microsoft Dealt Major Blow as UK Blocks Activision Buyout
The news itself isn't as interesting as the fact that a bunch of sites were proven wrong. Most of news outlets have been reporting that "CMA is most likely to approve the deal" since last week.
Wonder who their source was and how much MS paid for it.
Re: Sony Quietly Raises the Price of PlayStation Games on Steam in Select Regions
Just a reminder: raising prices is a common practice on Steam, especially if people are changing their store region just to capitalize on some cheap games in certain regions.
But then again, some people like to go ape mode once they see the name Sony, they don't read, nor research, just complain and go "unga bunga Jim Ryan unga bunga".
Re: American Senators Continue to Target Sony Over PS5, PS4 Timed Exclusives
Just remember this next time you vote: your tax money is being used to defend Microsoft instead of being used to solve real problems.
Re: Resident Evil 4's Ada Wong Responds to Social Media Abuse
Not even related to what she said, but I saw the thumbnail and went:
"Ayo, why this chick has a mustache?"
Re: This PlayStation Patents Terminology Row Is the Stupidest Story in Games
Also, he didn't show any examples from other console manufacturers, how can we be sure Nintendo, Microsoft or other companies aren't using the same terms but with different wording?
Re: This PlayStation Patents Terminology Row Is the Stupidest Story in Games
Y'know, if there was something wrong with the terminology used the patent wouldn't be granted, because they do like to nitpick every single word just to make sure it doesn't break another patent.
I thought a supposed "specialist" would know that.
Re: Shuhei Yoshida Wants to Change the Way Indie Developers Perceive PlayStation
I kinda wish discoverability was the only problem here, but the underlying issue lies on the fact that Sony marketing team turned Playstation into a premium brand. People who buy premium brands usually want a perceived value with each purchase they do, and indie games perceived value isn't quite upfront if compared to an AAA game.