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@TechaNinja Ah yes, let's ignore the fact that there's far more games that don't have a 120Hz mode because the PS5 can't hit it in those games, and devs can do it with the more powerful PS5 Pro.

@colonelkilgore So you DO think that Microsoft's first port of call was "no Plat for CoD" after the ABK acquisition? Gotcha.

And Iceborne isn't part of MH:W's trophy list. Capcom made it a separate SKU in that regard. So yes, you did casually ignore the fact that DLCs don't get Plats. Heck, someone else already explained it to you.

@tinCAT-zero if "sales never = greatness" then that means the PS2 was kinda mid...

@Gewertzx It was so lukewarm it sold over 30 million with two games.

Again, for me, it was quite clearly the superior product to Killzone, and the sales numbers vs. those of Killzone confirm others feel the same way.

@Jrs1 You're missing out in such a massive way. Even if you want to keep it strictly in the realams of 80s (I'm going for peak Maiden here) power metal, there's bands like Crimson Glory, Fates Warning, Realm, Manilla Road, etc. that are every bit as good as classic Maiden. And then you modern bands like Portrait, Enforcer and Eternal Champion that keep that sound alive.

Heck, I find it hard to believe that someone into classic Maiden wouldn't also be into classic Judas Priest.

@LavenderShroud You sure you do? They're mostly surface-level bands (though Animals As Leaders are the only genuinely good ones there).

Good. Even the best game in the series (KZ2) was a 7/10 at best. Horizon smokes it in every way and you can see there's actual passion in that series.

@colonelkilgore You reckon one of Microsoft's first port of calls in the few weeks after the ABK acquisition was "no PlayStation Platinum for CoD"?

Or are we casually ignoring the game is counted as DLC and DLCs don't get Plats?

@McTwist Yup. The vast majority of people who are console will stay exactly there. I sure as fudge aren't about to walk away from a 700 game library and start from scratch on Steam (not unless Sony do something completely catastrophic).

@MatthewJP It's not nonsense. I worked my way through college behind the tills in GameStop for over five years. Second-hand sales eat very little in terms of new sales, and those used copies don't become particularly plentiful until after the sales peak.

This is like when by far the best song in a band's set is a cover.

@MatthewJP But the secondhand market is usually for things that are well past their sales peak.

@truerbluer I've always treated forums (Reddit in particular) as atypical echo chambers that don't reflect the majority of players. They talk about cheaper costs, then ignore the fact that PC components cost way more, they "age out" quicker than consoles, there's a certain level (well, more than a console at least) of tech know-how required to keep a PC chugging along optimally, PC ports are frequently unoptimised messes, cheating is rife in certain genres, etc. Basically the grass isn't always greener.

I personally love my PS5. It's quiet, it plays PS4 games beautifully. I don't think the library is lacking too much (some arcade racers - and going off your avatar I'm sure you'll agree some sort of new WipEout content is sorely needed). I have fast and easy access to more games than I can count, and I could see the clear generational leap over the PS4 on day one with Demon's Souls Remake.

Am I hardcore? A 700 game library of all sorts of genres, both popular and obscure games says yeah I probably am. Again, zero interest in migrating that to PC. But the hardcore are a tiny minority. Most consoles go to people who buy FIFA and CoD, or maybe a handful of bigger franchises, not dorks like us.

@truerbluer I would hazard a guess you are very much the exception, rather than the rule in that regard.

But good for you that you had the commitment to carry through with planting your feet firmly in the platform you prefer going forward. I cannot realistically see myself abandoning my 700 game strong PlayStation library, but that's not to say some of Sony's recent shenanigans don't make me a touch nervous.

@LikelySatan It'd be easier for me to get it by mail too from my physical retailer of choice if Larian were assed with not being anti-consumer ***** with this game. If it was pre-ordered I'd have got it a day early in the post from my retailer too (including free postage!).

So there (or something, lol, all good).

I desperately want Insomniac to get back to their own creative and colourful IPs, not this done-to-dearh Marvel/dork bait. Ugh.

@truerbluer Are they really? Because I'd wager there's tens of millions of people that aren't about to abandon their PlayStation libraries and happy to start ones on Steam/Epic/Whatever from scratch because they might get the console exclusives a year or two later.

@themightyant There's a lot to he said for games having obvious beginnings, middles, and ends.

@LikelySatan At the same time "jumping through Larian's various hoops to procure a physical copy" doesn't mean it's readily available like, you know, walking into my preferred (or any) physical retailer like I did for Divinity Original Sin 2.

@Weebleman My man. It does another thing to me as well - it reminds me that I am a consumer there to be tapped for every red cent possible.

Like say something like Shadow of the Colossus, it's a game that was sold to make a profit. But that was it. The whole thing is effectively self-contained and we only really heard from it once (then a massively improved remake over a decade later). You can go a very long time without being reminded of its existence.

Then there's something like Marvel (not that I'm a fan, but it's the perfect example). Any time I see one of their bajillion products somewhere they may as well have a sign that says "consume Marvel, enter bank details here".

I got a similar feeling being in a record shop recently as they had The Last of Us soundtrack on the shelf, as was the Blu-ray. As was the collection of utterly insipid Funko Pops.

@Gewertzx Yeah so about the two Horizon games selling in excess of 30 million units. If the gameplay is so generic, can you point me to other games that allow me to hunt robot dinosaurs and shoot off particular parts to use as upgrade materials?

Franchise fatigue is a very real thing, and the relentless cross-pollination of media only adds to it.

Really don't care for any of it. It's not like I need to know how much storage I have free when I boot up the console, I really don't like trophies, and the controller notifies you when it's running out of juice (and the indicator is on the quick menu anyways).

Feels like a solution looking for a problem.

@KillerIsD34D I bought it based off the same demo and patch. It was okay, but I wasn't prepared for how dismal the framerate became in bigger battles. Borderline unplayable at times.

@riceNpea Sure there's people who swear blind that it ran fine at launch.

I actually sold my copy of it the other day as even with the more recent improvements the framerate during combat gave me a headache (and it was also a dog for timing attacks and moves).

@Paramahansa Assuming we both work full-time jobs, have friends, family, other hobbies, etc., the age thing is 100% a cop out. You don't magically lose the ability to play videogames because you've entered the apparent wastelands of your mid-to-late 30s.

@AFCC Trophy bros really have the oddest of takes.

Extra visual whizz-bang won't do much for the absolutely dour game world, some miserable level design (that church tower ascent, ugh), bland visuals, and janky gameplay.

@LavenderShroud Lol yeah that was a thing. Didn't Nier Automata give you the option to flipping buy the trophies you were missing?

@Paramahansa Age and time are a cop out. I 100%'d Sekiro this year (by actually sitting down and rinsing a game I enjoyed, not because I wanted it on my profile) and I'm older than you.

Again, the vast majority of trophies have "expanded" to nothing more than digital participation trinkets. Effectively patting you on the back for playing the content you payed to play. Should nice restaurants give trophies for having a nice dinner? Or the pub for having a few pints? Or a book publisher send you something for finishing their book?

Trophies are nonsense and I sincerely hope Nintendo don't introduce them with Switch 2.

@Robinsad It's not. It's precisely how subscriptions work. You can't seriously expect to keep the keys to the kingdom for a nominal monthly fee.

@Rich33 Sony don't care which of their consoles you buy, they only care about people being engaged in their ecosystem.

They also know that the vast majority of new buyers going forward will still be opting for the Slim, and that the Pro is a niche product (that's gonna be bought by a lot of existing owners anyways).

@LavenderShroud It's absolutely bizarre. Especially when you can pop the majority of trophies without much effort.

The very early days of Achievements/Trophies were touted as something akin to bragging rights like getting your name on a high score table. Now we have the so-called trophy hunters actively applauding not being challenged.

@hel105 Wouldn't "not gotten your fill" be reason enough to keep playing?

@Max_the_German Yeah playing the game completely out of context will do that.

I thought Pac-Man was kinda meh too, when I first played it in 1995.

"But there's no games on PS5, stupid $ony 🥺🥺🥺"

@LikelySatan I'm aware of that, neither of those are my preferred physical retailer though.

And I'd like take this opportunity to call out Michael Douse - why can't I walk into my preferred retailer and buy this game off the shelf?

Locking distribution to (effectively) digital-only is a scum move.

@Fishnpeas "It's better than every other game in the genre bar the undisputed leader"... yeah, such a lame result! /s

@mountain_spider No, you said it existed all the way back in the SNK era. That in itself makes no sense as the SNK era kicked off after Capcom got the ball rolling.

Again - which SNK game from the early to mid 1990s had a meter independent from the super meter that was used to enhance specials, dash, etc.? Once you tell me which one I'll happily look it up online and conceded that you are correct. Until such time that you can furnish such proof, then I think you are wrong.

@Cal_ So you're saying that all those nods to a console released in 1994 and the games on it are aimed at people born circa 2014?

@Pusher2021 "2K is a publisher not a platform holder" is shifting the goalposts.

PS Plus had an increase, sure, but you seem to be ignoring that GamePass did as well, and GamePass is still more expensive. The fact that you have already gone out and bought a chunk of the games on PS Plus says you think the content offered is quality.

Here's the thing, I didn't play the same game over and over again. Never played Death Stranding, never played Ghost of Tsushima. So which one am I gonna choose - the PS4 versions, or the much more performant PS5 versions (that also have more content)? Just because you've played the games before doesn't mean we all have. But if you want to stick with the potato graphics of PS3 Demon's Souls instead of the PS5 version then more power to you.

Doesn't matter that there wasn't many first party games this year. We still got Helldivers 2. We sill got Rise of the Ronin. We still got Stellar Blade. We still got FF7 Rebirth. There's still Lego Horizon to come. Using the same logic of "it doesn't count if it's a bought exclusive" then the Xbox 360 never got Gears of War. Or Forza Horizon. Or Halo.

Consoles are still selling like candy because people jumping into the ecosystem in year four have the first three years of games to catch up on.

I don't like subscriptions, so I think PS Plus is garbage regardless. I buy the games I want, and that's that. GamePass is an absolute pox on the industry. It's bred an entire generation of players to not expect to have to buy games. And it devalues the brand in doing so.

Competition does indeed force better products, but Microsoft haven't been competitors in the console space since 2011. The last decade plus they've just been there.

Surely the failing of Concord (when coupled to the success of Astro Bot) will mean the consequences are Sony realise what they're good at?

@mountain_spider So which SNK title had a preset meter that was used for enhancing normals, dashing, etc. that existed independently from the super meter?

Again, super meter burn for ex-special moves started with Darkstalkers 3, which is newer than most of the games you mentioned so they quite clearly didn't have that first.

@mountain_spider But it sounds exactly like SF6's system.

And Darkstalkers 3 was the first game to introduce super meter burn to enhance specials, not any SNK title.

@Pusher2021 What alternative timeline is this? 2K had 80 bucks games first. Sony's subs cost less than Microsoft's (and Premium gives you significantly more content for that lower price). Sony have more first party games this gen than Microsoft (Microsoft had a grand total of zero for the Series X at launch). And I'd much rather play remasters of GoT or Death Stranding than listen to Microsoft say "it'll be out year next year!" for the tenth year in a row.

@Cal_ I'm almost double your age and it's a great game. It looks great, it runs great, it sounds great, and most importantly it plays great. You've effectively applied an age limit to having fun, which is straight up asinine.

Besides, who do you think all the cameos of PS1 characters are aimed at? Because it isn't your 7 year old brother.

@Titntin Right? The narrative that Microsoft are some plucky upstart bringing games to as many people as possible is mind-boggling.

If they had their way, discs would have been useless over a decade ago, the console would have always-online DRM, and there'd be an always on camera facing into your living room that the console (which again is permanently connected to the internet) wouldn't work without.

I'm also blue saying that if they had their way, you bet that the likes of The Elder Scrolls 6 would only be available via an 18 month GamePass Super Turbo Champion Edition subscription. Ditto for the likes of CoD.

Microsoft tried to crush the competition by outspending them as they have done in other industries - as that's all they know how to do - but for once it's blown up in their faces. Sony running unchecked in the premium console space isn't a great prospect, but it's still far more palatable than Microsoft getting their way.

@Dalamar For real, I played most of the regular levels on autopilot. Even the "challenge" levels weren't particularly challenging.

@LikelySatan I stood in the hub area punching those Wipeout pilots and thought "this is basically what Sony did to Studio Liverpool, and the fanbase".

@Max_the_German It's not a literal statement.