@YoureTooSlowBro I never saw the fuss with it TBH. Like I went out of my way to decapitate some orc captain, then he shows up again an hour later with his head stitched back on and some mates in tow.
Absolutely sick of being gaslit by Microsoft's narrative around this. They only want their games to "reach as many as possible" because they tried to outspend the competition and still somehow utterly failed as a platform. They see the pivot to third party as the only way to claw back that 76 billion they spent. They're not some benevolent force bringing games to the masses.
After the hot mess that is Dragon's Dogma 2, this was very much expected.
Capcom are responsible for what is hands down my favourite game of the generation (heck, probably my favourite game this century) - Street Fighter 6 - but I won't reward them with a sale when the likes of this aren't entirely fit for purpose.
@HonestHick Tariffs are quite literally taxes. Ignoring the fact that removing income taxes entirely could cause what paltry social security the US has to collapse entirely (which is a benefit to no one), this is Donald Trump you're talking about. One of the dumbest PoS to ever draw breath and will lie about anything. You'll get the tariffs for sure, but you'll keep the taxes too.
@Darude84 Genuinely, how? Screen size and resolution have no bearing on the perception of the refresh rate. Even to my 10 year old brain the difference between a NES game at 25fps and one at 50fps was huge on my 14" portable TV.
@ThomasHL Not really. The main improvements that the Pro makes are resolution, better draw distance and object detail, consistency of framerate. Doesn't matter if I'm playing that on my 65" LG C3 OLED or my 32" Samsung from 2008 (that somehow still works). You not knowing what to look for is fine, but it doesn't mean others can't see a difference.
And the PS4 Pro had a literal handful of games that saw a bump to 60FPS. It still had the same weak sauce CPU as the PS4 (that was already antiquated in 2013 at base launch, nevermind three years later at Pro launch), just slightly overclocked.
I've bought at least five Yakuza games, and abandoned them all. They're all so utterly disrespectful of the player's time. And seeing as I'm not really "feeling" games in general of late anyways (besides Street Fighter 6 and Balatro), you'd have to pay me to boot this up.
@eM1x029 The week I originally bought Jedi Survivor was the same week I finally got fibre broadband installed (and hardwired to the console). Not a hope was I installing that over my old connection.
Also, didn't except to see Burzum's "Filosofem" on Push Square.
@themightyant Exactly. I don't think I've turned on a TV via the remote (outside of the initial set up) since I got the PS3 Slim in 2009 (after my phat bricked). One button press on the controller and the entire entertainment center comes alive.
@Perturbator Real talk about the cheaters. Was playing some Street Fighter 6 online on PS5 - cross-play is enabled by default and is pretty robust. Was fighting a dude who would instantly counter my Drive Impact with his own. So I did a little experiment - whenever he jumped, I'd Drive Impact.
Looking back his inputs via the replay, sure enough he'd input the command for Drive Impact when he was in the air (where you can't do it) the instant I'd do it.
@Rabid_Gamer Deleting games completely from an account would be wide open to abuse from say a salty sibling or ex.
Trophies are open to much more mild abuse, but we all know that if you have close to 100% completion then you've gone back in and curated the list yourself. And if you delete them then you screw the completion numbers for everyone else, which partially defeats the idea of them.
why would you bother owning a PS5 if you can play all the games on Steam?
Many reasons...
I've over a decade of digital purchases bound to a PSN account, which is by some margin my main gaming platform.
I'm not getting the price-to-performance ratio out of the same cost PC as I do my PS5 (especially back in 2020 when I bought it at launch).
I can (for now at least) resell those PS5 games. I enjoyed the likes of Spider-Man 2, GoW Ragnarok, FF7 Rebirth, etc. as much as the next person, but I also don't have a great urge to be utterly entrenched in those games anymore once I roll the credits. This also means I've been able to loan a game or two to a buddy, and he's given me some in return.
It's clichéd but it's true - I spend enough time during my day fiddling with PC hardware that I want absolutely nothing to do with it in my leisure time. And even if consoles and games need regular updates, they're still lower maintenance than PC hardware.
It's a win for everyone in my book - I get to play the games I want on my chosen platform, someone else gets to play them on their different chosen platform, Sony makes bank and keeps the games coming.
@Vaako007 Lot of hot takes there. Sony had plenty of games for the first few years of the generation while Microsoft did not (the Series consoles had no exclusives at launch day - a first for any console). The lack of Sony games in 2024 is due to their pivot to and then away from live service. Yet they still made sure of exclusives like Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade, FF7 Rebirth. Microsoft only have decent looking output now because of the massive buyouts they engaged in.
If subsidised GamePass protects studios, then explain Tango? Arkane Austin?
And the line about Sony being a hardware company is hilarious. PlayStation is the most profitable part of Sony, and it isn't from just selling the consoles (which are frequently loss leaders early in their life).
I've never really played an SNK game competitively (by that I mean play it enough to hit a half-decent rank online), so I'm preparing the lube for this... but still looking forward to it!
@Stale-Bread Switch on course to be the bestselling console of all time, PS5 tracking ahead of PS4. Consoles are going nowhere.
And just because you personally don't care for the exclusives doesn't mean others don't. You reckon no one bought one to play Astro? Spider-Man 2? GoW Ragnarok? Stellar Blade? FF7 Rebirth? I know I bought one on launch day to play Demon's Souls Remake.
The pivot to and then away from live service has obviously impacted their output.
That said, there's still a mountain of games I want to get, there's still a mountain of games in my backlog that haven't been touched, plus games are bigger than ever.
Sure, the Megadrive had more bangers in 1992 than the PS5 did in 2024, but you can clock Streets of Rage 2 in about an hour.
I need more hours in the day, not more gargantuan games polished to perfection.
@ButterySmooth30FPS It's a bizarre-o mindset! I had a conversation with the dude along the lines of "so you reckon they sold out by releasing an album that embraces krautrock and got the dude from Tangerine Dream on board?"
Cream rises to the top, and then there's these people basically saying "I liked cream before it was cool".
@ButterySmooth30FPS Yeah it's such a strange mindset. Like I don't have a picture of Ken Kutaragi in a frame on my bedside table or anything, but I'm glad to know that my console of choice will continue to get lots of first and third party support (and that it's also the main target platform for third party stuff due to the size of its install base).
I know a fella who's kinda salty that his favourite band (Blood Incantation, one of my own favourite bands) have achieved something resembling "success" and critical acclaim. Meanwhile he's oblivious to the fact that this success that he's salty about is what lets him go see them play a gig in his own country, he's not paying a fortune to get merch from the US as they have an EU distro now, and the success has afforded them the ability to continue putting out the records he loves.
I'll never understand the "why should I care?" naysayers. You should care because a healthy platform and ecosystem attracts more developers, which gives you more games, which gives the console a longer shelf-life, which keeps the platform holder more likely to succeed, which gives you a better return on your investment (eg. I know at least two people who are rather miffed right now that they chose to build their digital libraries on Xbox).
As a former Dreamcast owner, let me tell you that having your system of choice dropped like a hot potato is no fun.
I've the Premium sub due to being grandfathered in from Now (that I paid half price for). My Plus ran out two weeks before the introduction of tiers, so they gave Premium for the Now sub, and that auto renews for me at half price (so the same as Essential) ever since, so I've kept it about.
Think I play one or two games on it per year at most.
@Toot1st Lol, I'm also a metalhead in Europe, today so far I've spun High On Fire's "Death Is This Communion", Necrophobic's "The Nocturnal Silence", Gorguts' "The Erosion of Sanity" and uh, Kendrick Lamar's "2 Pimp A Butterfly". He's really that good.
Fun fact about that album of his - Thundercat plays bass on it. Thundercat played bass with Suicidal Tendencies for a decade (while his brother was their drummer).
@rjejr for one, the game is a longer than 12 hours. Took me at least double that to do everything blind, and that was at launch before they added anything.
And would you prefer 100 hours of running around looking around for McGuffins or 24 hours of pure, unadulterated fun for your 50 quid?
@Machine_T What's nuts is I bought the WipEout Futurism book there when it launched and being reminded of the sort of marketing they used to throw at these games. Sigh...
@matekomlosi How far did you get? Love all those games too (and Hoisemarque's older output), and by far the most trouble I had was with the first world and its boss.
Progressed through world 2 with probably a fifth of the effort, then steamrolled the rest of the game.
@PuppetMaster Agree there. There's something quite meditative about gearing up and doing a delivery.
I think there's a bit of a hidden overlap with the character action games we both enjoy - DS operates at a much slower (and "lower consequence") pace, but like those other games you have to willingly engage with the gameplay mechanics in order to progress.
@Max_the_German Yeah that's fair. After 2 hours I was thinking "this is nonsense". After 80 hours I was thinking "this is still nonsense, but I'm also still playing it".
I'll also mention that actual walking simulators are probably my least favourite genre, and my favourites are high intensity games like Bayonetta, Sekiro, Devil May Cry, Vanquish, Soulsbourne, etc., so for DS to hook me for 80 hours it must have done something right.
@Max_the_German I thought those things too until I sat down and actually played Death Stranding.
The mechanics are satisfying, the world is desolate but beautiful, it's got a goofy sense of humour, by the end of the game it's a bit more involved than just hiking places, the asymmetrical multiplayer elements add to the world.
It's popular because in a sea of identikit open world AAA "collect 100 McGuffins to save the princess" titles, it's actually original and for an AAA game took a big risk.
@Toot1st That's kind of impressive. Dude's been winning stacks of Grammys for over a decade, has released what is regarded as the best hip hop album this century, has won the first Pulitzer Prize for Music they wasn't jazz or classical.
I've been listening to him since 2013 as he had two songs in GTAV, and I say that as someone whose favourite genre is death metal.
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Re: Fans Are Fuming Warner Bros Patented the Nemesis System But Isn't Using It
@YoureTooSlowBro I never saw the fuss with it TBH. Like I went out of my way to decapitate some orc captain, then he shows up again an hour later with his head stitched back on and some mates in tow.
Re: 43 PS5, PS4 Games You Should Buy in PS Store's Dealmania Sale
Probably gonna get Kill Knight.
Looking at The Last of Us, it's really one of those games I could play again for the first time. One of those medium-defining experiences.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for March 2025 Announced
Bounced off Veilguard hard. Played as the melee class and it felt like a poor cousin of GoW 2018.
Might dip in again with this and try the mage.
Re: Xbox Wants Its Games to 'Reach the Broadest Audience Possible' as It Plots More Long-Standing, Flagship Franchises for PS5
Absolutely sick of being gaslit by Microsoft's narrative around this. They only want their games to "reach as many as possible" because they tried to outspend the competition and still somehow utterly failed as a platform. They see the pivot to third party as the only way to claw back that 76 billion they spent. They're not some benevolent force bringing games to the masses.
Re: Sony Steps Up PS5 Shipments in an Effort to Avoid Shortages Amid US Tariff Uncertainty
@IamJT Absolutely, I agree. This dude doesn't seem to get that and sees the dissolution of taxes as a good thing.
Re: Sony Steps Up PS5 Shipments in an Effort to Avoid Shortages Amid US Tariff Uncertainty
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Re: Hands On: Monster Hunter Wilds Performance Certainly Isn't Perfect on PS5, PS5 Pro
After the hot mess that is Dragon's Dogma 2, this was very much expected.
Capcom are responsible for what is hands down my favourite game of the generation (heck, probably my favourite game this century) - Street Fighter 6 - but I won't reward them with a sale when the likes of this aren't entirely fit for purpose.
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Re: Sony Steps Up PS5 Shipments in an Effort to Avoid Shortages Amid US Tariff Uncertainty
@HonestHick Meanwhile, in the real world...
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-financial-page/the-white-house-is-gaslighting-americans-about-donald-trumps-tariffs
Re: Sony Steps Up PS5 Shipments in an Effort to Avoid Shortages Amid US Tariff Uncertainty
@ChrisDeku Best corporation tax cuts you've ever seen. Bigly tax cuts, even. Be best.
Re: Sony Steps Up PS5 Shipments in an Effort to Avoid Shortages Amid US Tariff Uncertainty
@HonestHick Tariffs are quite literally taxes. Ignoring the fact that removing income taxes entirely could cause what paltry social security the US has to collapse entirely (which is a benefit to no one), this is Donald Trump you're talking about. One of the dumbest PoS to ever draw breath and will lie about anything. You'll get the tariffs for sure, but you'll keep the taxes too.
Re: Sony's Pricey PS5 Pro Is Now Being Outpaced by PS4 Pro Launch Aligned in the US
@Darude84 Genuinely, how? Screen size and resolution have no bearing on the perception of the refresh rate. Even to my 10 year old brain the difference between a NES game at 25fps and one at 50fps was huge on my 14" portable TV.
Re: Sony's Pricey PS5 Pro Is Now Being Outpaced by PS4 Pro Launch Aligned in the US
@ThomasHL Not really. The main improvements that the Pro makes are resolution, better draw distance and object detail, consistency of framerate. Doesn't matter if I'm playing that on my 65" LG C3 OLED or my 32" Samsung from 2008 (that somehow still works). You not knowing what to look for is fine, but it doesn't mean others can't see a difference.
And the PS4 Pro had a literal handful of games that saw a bump to 60FPS. It still had the same weak sauce CPU as the PS4 (that was already antiquated in 2013 at base launch, nevermind three years later at Pro launch), just slightly overclocked.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii?
I've bought at least five Yakuza games, and abandoned them all. They're all so utterly disrespectful of the player's time. And seeing as I'm not really "feeling" games in general of late anyways (besides Street Fighter 6 and Balatro), you'd have to pay me to boot this up.
Re: 5 PS5, PS4 Games You Must Play in New PS Plus Update for February 2025
@eM1x029 The week I originally bought Jedi Survivor was the same week I finally got fibre broadband installed (and hardwired to the console). Not a hope was I installing that over my old connection.
Also, didn't except to see Burzum's "Filosofem" on Push Square.
Re: Ex-Sony Exec Says PC Ports of Old PS5 Games Are Almost Like Printing Money
@themightyant Exactly. I don't think I've turned on a TV via the remote (outside of the initial set up) since I got the PS3 Slim in 2009 (after my phat bricked). One button press on the controller and the entire entertainment center comes alive.
Lazy? Absolutely, but it's leisure/down time.
Re: Ex-Sony Exec Says PC Ports of Old PS5 Games Are Almost Like Printing Money
@Perturbator Real talk about the cheaters. Was playing some Street Fighter 6 online on PS5 - cross-play is enabled by default and is pretty robust. Was fighting a dude who would instantly counter my Drive Impact with his own. So I did a little experiment - whenever he jumped, I'd Drive Impact.
Looking back his inputs via the replay, sure enough he'd input the command for Drive Impact when he was in the air (where you can't do it) the instant I'd do it.
Still beat him 2-0, mind.
Re: Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves Open Beta Is Ready to Throw Down on PS5, PS4
Looking forward to trying this later! Wonder how much of Mai and Terry's meta will translate from SF6.
Re: New PS5 Firmware Update Available Now in Beta Phase
@Rabid_Gamer Deleting games completely from an account would be wide open to abuse from say a salty sibling or ex.
Trophies are open to much more mild abuse, but we all know that if you have close to 100% completion then you've gone back in and curated the list yourself. And if you delete them then you screw the completion numbers for everyone else, which partially defeats the idea of them.
Re: Xbox Creator Believes Content and Experiences Are More Important for Consoles Than Graphics
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Re: Ex-Sony Exec Says PC Ports of Old PS5 Games Are Almost Like Printing Money
Many reasons...
It's a win for everyone in my book - I get to play the games I want on my chosen platform, someone else gets to play them on their different chosen platform, Sony makes bank and keeps the games coming.
Re: Xbox Games on PS5 Is a Win for PlayStation Owners, Says Yoshida
@Vaako007 Lot of hot takes there. Sony had plenty of games for the first few years of the generation while Microsoft did not (the Series consoles had no exclusives at launch day - a first for any console). The lack of Sony games in 2024 is due to their pivot to and then away from live service. Yet they still made sure of exclusives like Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade, FF7 Rebirth. Microsoft only have decent looking output now because of the massive buyouts they engaged in.
If subsidised GamePass protects studios, then explain Tango? Arkane Austin?
And the line about Sony being a hardware company is hilarious. PlayStation is the most profitable part of Sony, and it isn't from just selling the consoles (which are frequently loss leaders early in their life).
Re: 9 New PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Yours to Download Now
@Nalim Thanks for the info, looks like I'll give NG+ a whirl so.
Re: 10 PS5, PS4 Games Removed from PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Month
Curious to see how SF5 behaves - I bought the Arcade Edition (which was base game plus DLC codes) years ago.
Not that I ever play it, SF6 is leagues ahead of it.
Re: 9 New PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Yours to Download Now
Does Jedi Survivor have NG+? I played and finished it when it got the major performance updates.
Might jump back in anyways if only just to hear Skoova talk cr*p again.
Re: Tides of Annihilation Proving Popular After State of Play Reveal
Please let there be a "mute protagonist" button. One of my modern gaming peeves.
Re: Street Fighter's Ken, Chun-Li Join Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves This Year as PS5, PS4 DLC
@PuppetMaster Sounds delightful 😂
I've never really played an SNK game competitively (by that I mean play it enough to hit a half-decent rank online), so I'm preparing the lube for this... but still looking forward to it!
Re: Xbox to Put PS5 Logos in Future Showcases, Says Phil Spencer
@Stale-Bread Switch on course to be the bestselling console of all time, PS5 tracking ahead of PS4. Consoles are going nowhere.
And just because you personally don't care for the exclusives doesn't mean others don't. You reckon no one bought one to play Astro? Spider-Man 2? GoW Ragnarok? Stellar Blade? FF7 Rebirth? I know I bought one on launch day to play Demon's Souls Remake.
Re: Street Fighter's Ken, Chun-Li Join Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves This Year as PS5, PS4 DLC
@Majin_Deicide You mean you don't love losing half your lifebar from getting caught by a c.MK?!
Re: PS5, PS4 Kart Racer Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds' Rumoured SEGA Stars Could Be DLC
@carlos82 The game I miss most from selling my Series X is All-star Racing Transformed running at a locked 60fps.
Re: Game of the Month: Ninja Gaiden 2 Black (January 2025)
I don't have time for this right now (real life + a hefty backlog), but can't wait to dig in when I do get the time.
Possibly the peak of one of the greatest action games ever made.
Re: Reaction: The PS5 Discourse Around State of Plays Is Becoming Draining
The pivot to and then away from live service has obviously impacted their output.
That said, there's still a mountain of games I want to get, there's still a mountain of games in my backlog that haven't been touched, plus games are bigger than ever.
Sure, the Megadrive had more bangers in 1992 than the PS5 did in 2024, but you can clock Streets of Rage 2 in about an hour.
I need more hours in the day, not more gargantuan games polished to perfection.
Re: PS5, PS4 Attracted the Most Players in PlayStation History in December
@ButterySmooth30FPS It's a bizarre-o mindset! I had a conversation with the dude along the lines of "so you reckon they sold out by releasing an album that embraces krautrock and got the dude from Tangerine Dream on board?"
Cream rises to the top, and then there's these people basically saying "I liked cream before it was cool".
Re: Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii PS5 Demo Available Now
I want to enjoy this series but the pacing is usually whack, and sometimes downright disrespectful of the player's time.
Re: PS5, PS4 Attracted the Most Players in PlayStation History in December
@ButterySmooth30FPS Yeah it's such a strange mindset. Like I don't have a picture of Ken Kutaragi in a frame on my bedside table or anything, but I'm glad to know that my console of choice will continue to get lots of first and third party support (and that it's also the main target platform for third party stuff due to the size of its install base).
I know a fella who's kinda salty that his favourite band (Blood Incantation, one of my own favourite bands) have achieved something resembling "success" and critical acclaim. Meanwhile he's oblivious to the fact that this success that he's salty about is what lets him go see them play a gig in his own country, he's not paying a fortune to get merch from the US as they have an EU distro now, and the success has afforded them the ability to continue putting out the records he loves.
Re: PS5, PS4 Attracted the Most Players in PlayStation History in December
I'll never understand the "why should I care?" naysayers. You should care because a healthy platform and ecosystem attracts more developers, which gives you more games, which gives the console a longer shelf-life, which keeps the platform holder more likely to succeed, which gives you a better return on your investment (eg. I know at least two people who are rather miffed right now that they chose to build their digital libraries on Xbox).
As a former Dreamcast owner, let me tell you that having your system of choice dropped like a hot potato is no fun.
Re: PS Plus Members Are Upgrading to Higher Tiers on PS5, PS4
I've the Premium sub due to being grandfathered in from Now (that I paid half price for). My Plus ran out two weeks before the introduction of tiers, so they gave Premium for the Now sub, and that auto renews for me at half price (so the same as Essential) ever since, so I've kept it about.
Think I play one or two games on it per year at most.
Re: Random: Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl LIX Performance Referenced PlayStation
@Toot1st Lol, I'm also a metalhead in Europe, today so far I've spun High On Fire's "Death Is This Communion", Necrophobic's "The Nocturnal Silence", Gorguts' "The Erosion of Sanity" and uh, Kendrick Lamar's "2 Pimp A Butterfly". He's really that good.
Fun fact about that album of his - Thundercat plays bass on it. Thundercat played bass with Suicidal Tendencies for a decade (while his brother was their drummer).
Re: The GTA 6 2025 Release Window May Have Just Gotten Smaller
@Frmknst The same world where the series has sold over 77 million copies, with Borderlands 2 selling 27 million alone?
Re: 5 More Astro Bot PS5 Levels Coming for Free, First Is Out Today
@rjejr for one, the game is a longer than 12 hours. Took me at least double that to do everything blind, and that was at launch before they added anything.
And would you prefer 100 hours of running around looking around for McGuffins or 24 hours of pure, unadulterated fun for your 50 quid?
Re: Sony XDEV Urges Fans to Tune in to PS5 Livestream Today
@Machine_T What's nuts is I bought the WipEout Futurism book there when it launched and being reminded of the sort of marketing they used to throw at these games. Sigh...
Re: Saros Is the Next PS5 Exclusive Game from Returnal Dev Housemarque, Coming 2026
@matekomlosi How far did you get? Love all those games too (and Hoisemarque's older output), and by far the most trouble I had was with the first world and its boss.
Progressed through world 2 with probably a fifth of the effort, then steamrolled the rest of the game.
Re: Sony XDEV Urges Fans to Tune in to PS5 Livestream Today
@PuppetMaster Agree there. There's something quite meditative about gearing up and doing a delivery.
I think there's a bit of a hidden overlap with the character action games we both enjoy - DS operates at a much slower (and "lower consequence") pace, but like those other games you have to willingly engage with the gameplay mechanics in order to progress.
Re: Sony XDEV Is Eager For You to Watch Today's PS5 Livestream
@Max_the_German Yeah that's fair. After 2 hours I was thinking "this is nonsense". After 80 hours I was thinking "this is still nonsense, but I'm also still playing it".
I'll also mention that actual walking simulators are probably my least favourite genre, and my favourites are high intensity games like Bayonetta, Sekiro, Devil May Cry, Vanquish, Soulsbourne, etc., so for DS to hook me for 80 hours it must have done something right.
Re: Sony XDEV Is Eager For You to Watch Today's PS5 Livestream
@Carnage Hoo-wee yes indeed. I'd probably buy a PSVR2 if they released some proper Wipeout content on it.
Re: Sony XDEV Is Eager For You to Watch Today's PS5 Livestream
@Max_the_German I thought those things too until I sat down and actually played Death Stranding.
The mechanics are satisfying, the world is desolate but beautiful, it's got a goofy sense of humour, by the end of the game it's a bit more involved than just hiking places, the asymmetrical multiplayer elements add to the world.
It's popular because in a sea of identikit open world AAA "collect 100 McGuffins to save the princess" titles, it's actually original and for an AAA game took a big risk.
Re: Sony XDEV Is Eager For You to Watch Today's PS5 Livestream
Is it called "WipEout 2097 Remake with the old physics and modern graphics"?
Re: PlayStation Users Miffed with Sony's Lack of PSN Outage Transparency
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Re: Random: Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl LIX Performance Referenced PlayStation
@Toot1st That's kind of impressive. Dude's been winning stacks of Grammys for over a decade, has released what is regarded as the best hip hop album this century, has won the first Pulitzer Prize for Music they wasn't jazz or classical.
I've been listening to him since 2013 as he had two songs in GTAV, and I say that as someone whose favourite genre is death metal.
Re: The Order: 1886 Dev Pitched a Sequel to Sony, But Was Denied
If ever a game was milquetoast, this one was it.