@Prime_Objective I still stand by my opinion. The PS5 is not seem as a platformer console and nowadays Mario is the only platformer that sells on the same level as an Open World action game. But tbh, I do hope you're right and I'm wrong on this one.
The thing is that 90% of people here including me at Push Square are going to buy Astro Bot. But we're a niche group and nowadays games like Astro Bot are niche games. The responsibility is on Sony to manage their expectations and not want these games to sell like God of War or TLoU.
Why? The third one was mediocre with very outdated design and Yakuza does everything Shenmue does but better. Shenmue is one of those series where the nostalgia goggles go really hard. The original ones were revolutionary but play horribly nowadays. Great concept that has been iterated and improved upon.
Yeah, just like last year EA FC 24 looked amazing and innovative. It wasn't. Every year there are articles on Push Square talking about how amazing the next iteration of a sports game is going to be and every year when the game is released it's just a tweaked version of an old game.
@NeonTiger It wasn't my intention. I write the same way I speak. I already said they are reasons people use to dislike him, not facts. You're clearly looking for someone to have an argument with and I'm not that person. I won't be replying to you anymore.
@NeonTiger I wasn't stating everything as a fact. I'm saying what was the people's perception of him. He always talked about Hollywood and he's been to every red carpet event that he has every red carpet event he had the opportunity to. Also his games are written and played in a very "cinematic" way. Does that make him a Hollywood shill? Maybe, maybe not. But the person asked me why Neil Druckmann was hated by some. I gave him the reasons people use to dislike him, not undeniable facts.
@JuiceboxMeister There a few things that made him unlikable for some people and then others blew out of proportion. Uncharted 4 is great example to start with. It was a light hearted series that never took its violence seriously and you can see the turn on the fourth game, having torture scenes and being overall grittier than previous entries. Druckmann said he wanted to make more grounded and serious games and that plus The Last of Us showed that he meant it. Some people dislike The Last of Us as series calling it torture porn, especially because even though the first game was violent, the second one turns that up a lot. Some people hated him because of the death of a character in the Last of Us II and some people hated the depiction of queer characters in both games. There was some valid criticism towards the plot being exploitative and violent for the sake of it, but also there was a mix of prejudicial people trying to justify their behavior. There was the news that Naughty Dog had excessive amounts of crunch and instead of apologising for it, his response amounted to what it seemed like a shrug saying it is inevitable and there's no good solution for it. Also there's the fact that he seems to be a big Hollywood fan and some people accuse him of being a shill that wants approval from that industry. These are the main facts that I can remember about Neil that make him a controversial figure.
My personal opinion about him is also negative, but never because of the human being he is. I don't like that he didn't speak out against crunch culture and I think his narrative devices can be exploitative. I also think that the end of The Last of Us II was incredibly unsatisfying and it didn't make sense with the rest of the narrative. That's basically it. Sorry for the long reply.
@Jacko11 Fair enough, not unreasonable to have that opinion. I'm my case I don't like him because he defended crunch culture. But I do think he gets an overwhelming amount of hate.
@Jacko11 He expressed his opinion which you might like it or not. Meanwhile you called him a clown without any direct provocation. You're in the wrong here, buddy. Ad hominem arguments never lead to anything constructive.
I don't like the guy because of him being in favor of crunch culture, but this is completely on Sony. They've basically lied about what he said and that's really shady.
In Druckmann's mind if he can replace those pesky employees that complain about crunch and being overworked to the point of burnout with a nonstop working AI it will be great! AI doesn't get tired or complain, right?
@Korgon How many other Assassin's Creed had a protagonist from a different origin than the game that it was set on? 0 Some people are angry because it looks like they're pandering to a certain crowd. Of course you also have the people that are angry due to obvious racist reasons. Overall I think it's a mix of people upset that a game set in Japan is not going to have a Japanese protagonist and some horrible people being horrible.
Unfortunately for me it's one of the worst aspects of DA Origins. The game held me over due to its amazing characters and plot, but I doubt Greedfall 2 would do the same.
And then they're going to push the sales goalpost to 20 million copies per game and be disappointed when it doesn't reach that. Square Enix is its own worst enemy.
I wish I was more optimistic about this game since I love the franchise, but the team is barely the same that made the other games, the people mostly involve with the franchise left, and Bioware is Bioware only in name nowadays.
@Mortal Fair enough. They still had historical data breaches and could've been more tactful with the implementation of PSN for PC users. No amount of supposed data safety will make it better the fact that they're only present in 69 territories and we're about to pull the rug from under the people not in these countries
@ATaco Sony famously suffers more data breaches than all the other platforms.
I agree it's extreme fanboyism. A bunch of Sony fanboys can't take criticism because of a situation that was clearly mishandled by Sony. But as long as some people define their personality by which game system they have, we're going to have ridiculous arguments like this one.
@PsBoxSwitchOwner It doesn't matter what games they were playing. They were playing Helldivers 2 and their access was going to be revoked. No matter how you want to paint it, it's just wrong to sell a product and then remove access to it.
@REALAIS Exactly. I live in the UK but I'm from a poor country. It really resonates with me the struggle of countries that always get less access to everything.
@BeerIsAwesome You're forgetting about the 177 territories that would have the game bricked because there's no PSN. Or even cases like Ukraine where they can only have a PSN account if you have a PS5/PS4 console. Some people were acting entitled, some were real victims of Sony's ignorance of the PC market.
@Neverwild That logic is very flawed. Sony knows that steam is available in almost every country in the world and should take rigorous steps to make sure their games are not sold in territories where it would be impossible to play it.
@Mortal If it is a misunderstanding, Sony is still accountable because it's a major blunder to not know in which territories your own game is being sold. Their whole handling of the situation has been one fumble after another. Hopefully they'll be mature enough to make Helldivers 2 the exception and void the requirement. If not they have done Arrowhead Studios dirty.
The amount of ignorance in the comment section is astounding. While Sony has told everyone from the beginning that PSN was a requirement, PS Plus is available only in 69 countries and yet they sold the game to every territory. People who can make PSN accounts and are complaining can be considered entitled, but those that have no literal way to make it are being punished due to Sony stubbornness.
To sell the game in territories where you know that it's impossible to access PSN just to later pull the rug from under them is an absurdly scummy attitude from Sony.
@NEStalgia I agree. I think Apocalypse's quality overshadowed IV a bit, but IV is what gives Apocalypse the foundation to be what it is. It's a very solid introduction to that post apocalyptic universe. V doesn't get much better than it's beginning. Characters don't get much development and the plot doesn't have that characteristic SMT depth and complexity with philosophical and ethical questions. It feels rushed, as if they had the blueprint to a SMT game but never expanded on it. Hopefully this version will fix it.
I don't care how many hours they add, I care for the quality of it. SMT always had intricate and interesting stories and SMT V is a huge step down from SMT IV, let's hope they fixed some of that.
Amazing idea yet the game looks terrible. I hope they smooth things out before release, but we all know that more likely than not it will be released in a rough state.
I have to echo everyone's sentiments here. The plague is an interesting idea the should be further developed, not cut back on.
Also reducing pawn dialogue should be an option, not a fix. I like my pawns chatty, it gives them personality.
I played over 100 hours of Dragon's Dogma and it's captured a sense of exploration I haven't felt since playing old Bethesda games. It's clunky, it has weird and boring quests, but the combat is amazing and the exploration is so entertaining. It definitely deserves praise and sales.
@Czar_Khastik Fallout is focused mostly on exploration and it does have some similarities with elder scrolls Oblivion. The story is not that deep and there are some big plotholes but the world gets interesting if you focus more on story and less on exploration. I would say New Vegas is the exact opposite. It has an extremely interesting story and well developed characters, but it's exploration is more limited although more cohesive. DLC wise New Vegas had better offerings. Gameplay wise they're very similar but New Vegas has a slight advantage by having true iron sights on its weapons. Fallout 4 has the better gameplay of all of them, but it has an extremely dull story that is limited due to the main character being voiced. It's very shallow in its systems but it does have good dungeon design and if you like that repetition of looting to get better equipment to go on another dungeon and do the same thing again, it's the game for you. I personally prefere Fallout New Vegas, as I think it is the most consistent with its design philosophies and the most Role Playing of the games, but you're going to find people arguing for any of the 3 being the best. It really depends on what you focus on when you play a game.
The fact that some people are willing to pre-order Ubisoft games for £120 and think it's a good deal baffles me. Most of their games are boring, repetitive and extremely buggy at launch and to top it all off, are heavily discounted a few months after release.
Thank goodness the poll finally clarifies. 60 FPS makes a difference and most of us want it. To anyone thinking it doesn't make a difference to anyone, it doesn't to you.
@Czar_Khastik Apparently you can play the game with Ray Tracing but unfortunately it's locked at 30 fps. There's only so much a PS5 can process at the same time.
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Re: Another Wave of Concord PS5, PC Character Trailers Has Arrived
This game is DoA.
Re: Poll: Are You Sick of Soulslike Games?
You always have the option to not play them.
Re: 6 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for July 2024 Leaked Early
That's a very strong month. I have most of these games and they're all great.
Re: Reaction: You Said You Were Sick of PS5's Sad Dad Sims, So You Better Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is
@Prime_Objective I still stand by my opinion. The PS5 is not seem as a platformer console and nowadays Mario is the only platformer that sells on the same level as an Open World action game. But tbh, I do hope you're right and I'm wrong on this one.
Re: Reaction: You Said You Were Sick of PS5's Sad Dad Sims, So You Better Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is
The thing is that 90% of people here including me at Push Square are going to buy Astro Bot. But we're a niche group and nowadays games like Astro Bot are niche games. The responsibility is on Sony to manage their expectations and not want these games to sell like God of War or TLoU.
Re: Astro's Playroom PS5 Gets New Update, New Trophies Out of Nowhere
An excuse to play Astro Bot? Don't mind if I do!
Re: Fans Fight for Shenmue 4, Rent Billboard in New York's Time Square
@tameshiyaku I know you're joking, but it does sound like a great idea!
Re: Fans Fight for Shenmue 4, Rent Billboard in New York's Time Square
Why? The third one was mediocre with very outdated design and Yakuza does everything Shenmue does but better. Shenmue is one of those series where the nostalgia goggles go really hard. The original ones were revolutionary but play horribly nowadays. Great concept that has been iterated and improved upon.
Re: EA Sports College Football 25 Looks Like the Best PS5 American Football Game in Ages
Yeah, just like last year EA FC 24 looked amazing and innovative. It wasn't.
Every year there are articles on Push Square talking about how amazing the next iteration of a sports game is going to be and every year when the game is released it's just a tweaked version of an old game.
Re: Sony Removes Naughty Dog Boss Interview Following Complete Misquotes
@NeonTiger It wasn't my intention. I write the same way I speak. I already said they are reasons people use to dislike him, not facts. You're clearly looking for someone to have an argument with and I'm not that person. I won't be replying to you anymore.
Re: Sony Removes Naughty Dog Boss Interview Following Complete Misquotes
@NeonTiger I wasn't stating everything as a fact. I'm saying what was the people's perception of him. He always talked about Hollywood and he's been to every red carpet event that he has every red carpet event he had the opportunity to. Also his games are written and played in a very "cinematic" way. Does that make him a Hollywood shill? Maybe, maybe not. But the person asked me why Neil Druckmann was hated by some. I gave him the reasons people use to dislike him, not undeniable facts.
Re: Sony Removes Naughty Dog Boss Interview Following Complete Misquotes
@JuiceboxMeister There a few things that made him unlikable for some people and then others blew out of proportion.
Uncharted 4 is great example to start with. It was a light hearted series that never took its violence seriously and you can see the turn on the fourth game, having torture scenes and being overall grittier than previous entries. Druckmann said he wanted to make more grounded and serious games and that plus The Last of Us showed that he meant it.
Some people dislike The Last of Us as series calling it torture porn, especially because even though the first game was violent, the second one turns that up a lot. Some people hated him because of the death of a character in the Last of Us II and some people hated the depiction of queer characters in both games. There was some valid criticism towards the plot being exploitative and violent for the sake of it, but also there was a mix of prejudicial people trying to justify their behavior.
There was the news that Naughty Dog had excessive amounts of crunch and instead of apologising for it, his response amounted to what it seemed like a shrug saying it is inevitable and there's no good solution for it.
Also there's the fact that he seems to be a big Hollywood fan and some people accuse him of being a shill that wants approval from that industry.
These are the main facts that I can remember about Neil that make him a controversial figure.
My personal opinion about him is also negative, but never because of the human being he is. I don't like that he didn't speak out against crunch culture and I think his narrative devices can be exploitative. I also think that the end of The Last of Us II was incredibly unsatisfying and it didn't make sense with the rest of the narrative.
That's basically it. Sorry for the long reply.
Re: Sony Removes Naughty Dog Boss Interview Following Complete Misquotes
@Jacko11 Fair enough, not unreasonable to have that opinion.
I'm my case I don't like him because he defended crunch culture. But I do think he gets an overwhelming amount of hate.
Re: Sony Removes Naughty Dog Boss Interview Following Complete Misquotes
@Jacko11 He expressed his opinion which you might like it or not. Meanwhile you called him a clown without any direct provocation. You're in the wrong here, buddy. Ad hominem arguments never lead to anything constructive.
Re: Ubisoft Pirate Game Skull and Bones Gets Trial Version, Price Cut as Player Count Reportedly Plummets
The first AAAA game is also the first AAAA flop!
Re: Neil Druckmann Claims Comments of Next Naughty Dog Game 'Redefining' the Mainstream View of Gaming Was a Sony Misquote
I don't like the guy because of him being in favor of crunch culture, but this is completely on Sony. They've basically lied about what he said and that's really shady.
Re: AI Helps Push Forward 'Boundaries of Storytelling', Says Naughty Dog's Neil Druckmann
In Druckmann's mind if he can replace those pesky employees that complain about crunch and being overworked to the point of burnout with a nonstop working AI it will be great! AI doesn't get tired or complain, right?
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Reveal Trailer Is Already the Most Disliked in Series History
@Korgon How many other Assassin's Creed had a protagonist from a different origin than the game that it was set on? 0
Some people are angry because it looks like they're pandering to a certain crowd.
Of course you also have the people that are angry due to obvious racist reasons.
Overall I think it's a mix of people upset that a game set in Japan is not going to have a Japanese protagonist and some horrible people being horrible.
Re: GreedFall 2 May Not Be the Game You Think It Is
Unfortunately for me it's one of the worst aspects of DA Origins. The game held me over due to its amazing characters and plot, but I doubt Greedfall 2 would do the same.
Re: Square Enix to 'Aggressively' Pursue Multiplatform Strategy from Now On
And then they're going to push the sales goalpost to 20 million copies per game and be disappointed when it doesn't reach that.
Square Enix is its own worst enemy.
Re: The Big Dragon Age: Dreadwolf Reveal Is Incoming, 2024 Release Date Reportedly Set
I wish I was more optimistic about this game since I love the franchise, but the team is barely the same that made the other games, the people mostly involve with the franchise left, and Bioware is Bioware only in name nowadays.
Still hopeful they'll prove me wrong.
Re: Helldivers 2 May Turn Negative Steam Reviews into a Fashionable In-Game Cape
@Mortal Fair enough. They still had historical data breaches and could've been more tactful with the implementation of PSN for PC users. No amount of supposed data safety will make it better the fact that they're only present in 69 territories and we're about to pull the rug from under the people not in these countries
Re: Helldivers 2 May Turn Negative Steam Reviews into a Fashionable In-Game Cape
@ATaco "Because it didn't happen to me, it can't be true" ok, buddy
Re: Helldivers 2 May Turn Negative Steam Reviews into a Fashionable In-Game Cape
@ATaco Sony famously suffers more data breaches than all the other platforms.
I agree it's extreme fanboyism. A bunch of Sony fanboys can't take criticism because of a situation that was clearly mishandled by Sony. But as long as some people define their personality by which game system they have, we're going to have ridiculous arguments like this one.
Re: Helldivers 2 May Turn Negative Steam Reviews into a Fashionable In-Game Cape
@PsBoxSwitchOwner It doesn't matter what games they were playing. They were playing Helldivers 2 and their access was going to be revoked. No matter how you want to paint it, it's just wrong to sell a product and then remove access to it.
Re: Helldivers 2 May Turn Negative Steam Reviews into a Fashionable In-Game Cape
@REALAIS Exactly. I live in the UK but I'm from a poor country. It really resonates with me the struggle of countries that always get less access to everything.
Re: Helldivers 2 May Turn Negative Steam Reviews into a Fashionable In-Game Cape
@ShogunRok only 69 countries would be able to play the game, but because you're in one of them you don't care about it right? Talk about privilege.
Re: Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement Backtracked on PC After Brutal Review Bombing Campaign
@BeerIsAwesome You're forgetting about the 177 territories that would have the game bricked because there's no PSN. Or even cases like Ukraine where they can only have a PSN account if you have a PS5/PS4 console. Some people were acting entitled, some were real victims of Sony's ignorance of the PC market.
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
@Neverwild That logic is very flawed. Sony knows that steam is available in almost every country in the world and should take rigorous steps to make sure their games are not sold in territories where it would be impossible to play it.
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
@Mortal If it is a misunderstanding, Sony is still accountable because it's a major blunder to not know in which territories your own game is being sold. Their whole handling of the situation has been one fumble after another. Hopefully they'll be mature enough to make Helldivers 2 the exception and void the requirement. If not they have done Arrowhead Studios dirty.
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
The amount of ignorance in the comment section is astounding. While Sony has told everyone from the beginning that PSN was a requirement, PS Plus is available only in 69 countries and yet they sold the game to every territory.
People who can make PSN accounts and are complaining can be considered entitled, but those that have no literal way to make it are being punished due to Sony stubbornness.
To sell the game in territories where you know that it's impossible to access PSN just to later pull the rug from under them is an absurdly scummy attitude from Sony.
Re: SMT 5: Vengeance Offers '75 More Hours of Gameplay', Says Atlus
@NEStalgia I agree. I think Apocalypse's quality overshadowed IV a bit, but IV is what gives Apocalypse the foundation to be what it is. It's a very solid introduction to that post apocalyptic universe.
V doesn't get much better than it's beginning. Characters don't get much development and the plot doesn't have that characteristic SMT depth and complexity with philosophical and ethical questions. It feels rushed, as if they had the blueprint to a SMT game but never expanded on it. Hopefully this version will fix it.
Re: SMT 5: Vengeance Offers '75 More Hours of Gameplay', Says Atlus
I don't care how many hours they add, I care for the quality of it. SMT always had intricate and interesting stories and SMT V is a huge step down from SMT IV, let's hope they fixed some of that.
Re: Tales of the Shire Turns The Lord of the Rings into a Hobbit Life Sim
Amazing idea yet the game looks terrible. I hope they smooth things out before release, but we all know that more likely than not it will be released in a rough state.
Re: Embracer Group Is Now Splitting into Three Separate Companies
It's becoming a bit unembraced isn't it?
Re: Future Dragon's Dogma 2 Update Will Nerf Its Coolest Mechanic
I have to echo everyone's sentiments here. The plague is an interesting idea the should be further developed, not cut back on.
Also reducing pawn dialogue should be an option, not a fix. I like my pawns chatty, it gives them personality.
Re: Ubisoft Responds to Star Wars Outlaws Exclusive Jabba the Hutt Boondoggle
Can't wait to buy this game next year for £5.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Helldivers 2 Dominates Once Again, Dragon's Dogma 2 in Third
I played over 100 hours of Dragon's Dogma and it's captured a sense of exploration I haven't felt since playing old Bethesda games. It's clunky, it has weird and boring quests, but the combat is amazing and the exploration is so entertaining. It definitely deserves praise and sales.
Re: Random: The Brutal PS1 Driver Intro Even Bested F1 Pro Lewis Hamilton
I'm able to complete it! Does that mean that I'm a better racer than Hamilton? That's what it means, right? Right?!
Re: Interview: Unicorn Overlord's Producer on the Game's Success, Development, and Vanillaware's Relationship with Atlus
Fantastic tactical RPG from an incredible studio. Can't wait for what they have in store.
Re: The Rogue Prince of Persia Is Real, But It's Only Announced for PC Right Now
Horrible graphics and horrible music.
Ubisoft never disappoints.
Re: TV Show Review: Fallout - RPG Series Marks Another TV Triumph
@Czar_Khastik Fallout is focused mostly on exploration and it does have some similarities with elder scrolls Oblivion. The story is not that deep and there are some big plotholes but the world gets interesting if you focus more on story and less on exploration. I would say New Vegas is the exact opposite. It has an extremely interesting story and well developed characters, but it's exploration is more limited although more cohesive. DLC wise New Vegas had better offerings. Gameplay wise they're very similar but New Vegas has a slight advantage by having true iron sights on its weapons.
Fallout 4 has the better gameplay of all of them, but it has an extremely dull story that is limited due to the main character being voiced.
It's very shallow in its systems but it does have good dungeon design and if you like that repetition of looting to get better equipment to go on another dungeon and do the same thing again, it's the game for you.
I personally prefere Fallout New Vegas, as I think it is the most consistent with its design philosophies and the most Role Playing of the games, but you're going to find people arguing for any of the 3 being the best. It really depends on what you focus on when you play a game.
Re: Saber Interactive CEO Defends Embracer Group's Controversial Acquisition Strategy
This CEO sounds like the kind of person who shouldn't be making public statements.
Re: Two Star Wars Outlaws Expansions Will Arrive After PS5 Launch
The fact that some people are willing to pre-order Ubisoft games for £120 and think it's a good deal baffles me. Most of their games are boring, repetitive and extremely buggy at launch and to top it all off, are heavily discounted a few months after release.
Re: Most PS5 Players Say 60fps Is a Must
@Vivisapprentice Old guy here and I do care. I take performance over graphics any day of the week.
Re: Yuji Naka Surfaces to Accuse Recently Ousted Dragon Quest Producer of 'Lying in Court'
He accused someone of perjury on twitter? What a great move that won't have legal consequences at all.
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Care About 60fps on PS5?
@Cloud39472 Most of us at Push Square. I'm criticising people here that think that because it doesn't matter to them, it doesn't matter to anyone.
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Care About 60fps on PS5?
Thank goodness the poll finally clarifies. 60 FPS makes a difference and most of us want it. To anyone thinking it doesn't make a difference to anyone, it doesn't to you.
Re: Ubisoft Forward Is the Next Summer Gaming Event to Mark on Your Calendar
Yeah, sure. I can barely contain my excitement.
Re: PSP Dungeon Crawling RPGs Class of Heroes 1 & 2 Delve to PS5 Over a Decade Later
@Czar_Khastik Apparently you can play the game with Ray Tracing but unfortunately it's locked at 30 fps. There's only so much a PS5 can process at the same time.