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@ShadowofSparta @species @LifeGirl

At this point. Who in life doesn’t have your data? I’d be here all day trying to list the things you have given your info over to.

It’s fake outrage is all. Doesn’t matter if it’s Sony or whoever. It’s pretty pathetic.

Edit - that’s without mentioning the fact the people who bought it knew in advance it would require an account and they still CHOSE to purchase it knowing that fact.

Shouldn’t be giving this kind of thing any attention in any way shape or form.

Potentially encouraging more to try it.

@johnedwin there’s your problem. You are reading YouTube comments

@species pc players do have an MS account and many many more.

Thank god PC owners only probably have -

MS, steam, epic, battle net, Bethesda, SE, Ubisoft, EA, take2(r*) plus streaming subs, phone contracts.

But god forbid if Sony asks them to sign up, even says it before purchase.

I wonder if it’s actually 400million during its (intended) lifetime.

Much like they expect Gta6 to be 2billion across its lifetime.

@SeanOhOgain unfortunately at the minute there seems to be a lot of hot takes on the site where there is an immediate article put up without much actual thought around the whole situation. And misses so much context.

When they stop and think before the article is written there is usually some very good points in there.

When you are selling 10million plus on your main console the numbers are always going to be pretty low 12-24months later.

Not to mention the fact it’s a sequel and they always perform worse in sales/play through etc.

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare

The play anywhere etc currently isn’t working.

Subscription has stalled (not just for ms but Sony also). Most GP users are still on console. So to boost those numbers they currently need to be selling consoles.

Now I’m not saying MS are doomed but it shows why they are heading multiplatform and most likely why ‘Xbox’ will be rebranded as MS gaming’

Horizon/last of us/ until dawn I understand because of Sony saying they want to boost IP outside of games.

So having a brand new shiny horizon to run on a pro/ps5 when the new series (should have) released makes commercial sense. To bring in new players.

If Days gone is true, that is one I can’t understand. Because there is no tie in or second game.

Article also doesn’t touch on the fact that Sony have just let another company use one of there IPs in freedom wars, maybe this will become part of the strategy for things like killzone/wipeout etc.

So yeah I understand the logic behind some (whether I’m interested or not) and my general opinion is that I’d rather new games over remasters/makes.

@get2sammyb I really don’t know why. For most the 15mins fad of this game is over.

They probably have figures showing few people are playing. Be a financial decision

@WhensDinner because it would have coincided with the series (that got cancelled)

The exact same as Sony did with the last of us.

And how people don’t understand this is beyond me when Sony themselves even said they want to take IP beyond gaming

SE always have stupid expectations that we know they don’t meet.

I don’t think it will do loads better multi platform. A little maybe.

To muddy the waters Sony will be paying a premium to have it as an exclusive which SE would then lose. So have to sell more for the same money.

It does look so much sharper and cleaner.

Need to see a lot more games for it to become worthwhile to myself (or some good bundles)

But for those that want fps and graphics it’s a promising start.

@crossbit yet when this went into production there was a tv series for Netflix/amazon or wherever.

So yes just like The last of us they were releasing a game alongside it.

Potentially getting those who hadn’t played it but watched the show to go out and buy the ps5 version.

If people are totally ambivalent they can ignore it. Just like they can the pro or one of the many games that get released each week that they don’t play or complain about.

@AdamNovice @get2sammyb

Adam gets it. Sony have recently said they want to expand the IPs etc. so it would have been done to coincide. Bit like the last of us.

But the internet likes to lose its mind over something they can ignore.

@UntilRespawn he’s an odd fellow.

A teacher who only likes kids stuff. If that isn’t warning signals then I dunno these days.

I read a few sites full review then I enjoy a glance over metacritic to see if there are any sort of universal issues etc that all reviews agree on.

At the end of the day video games are subjective what one likes the next won’t so you have to try what you are interested in

@nomither6 early on in the poll it was at 1% meaning someone had to.

Good to see everyone in an upbeat mood as always.

I gave it 10 but I would have given it 9.5if I had that option.

Very fun, great soundtrack and it makes me smile

May have to pick motor fest up. Often around £20 and getting an offline mode too

@themightyant I agree the value is in the eye of the beholder. But I just find there is massive over reaction to a price tag.

If it’s not deemed ‘good’ value then it can simply be ignored

@NEStalgia the sticker price is what it is. It’s either worth it to someone or it isn’t. Whether the upgrade is enough to justify is moot.

My main point was you could see differences in the video and people saying they couldn’t are simply being disingenuous.

@LifeGirl @Dodoo I’ve stated elsewhere I’m not buying it. If it had the disc drive at that price I’d be on the fence.

But value/price are subjective to everyone. What some see in the value of one thing. Someone else doesn’t.

But when people start saying there is no difference etc I just feel like I watched a different video. And as usual many are jumping on it for those important things in life. Internet points.

@StylesT genuinely you couldn’t see any differences in the side by side clips/pics in the video?

There are some good ones out there. And fully deserved. It’s harmless.

But honestly if you watched Cernys presentation and couldn’t see the differences between the two then you need to go get your eyes tested.

Maybe it will be Xbox exclusive

@Smash41 don’t waste your time. Sifi there is a PS hater. Constantly posting about Sony over on purexbox. When it has nothing to do with Sony. Often most of it not even accurate

It’s not worth paying for imo.

It’s very shallow. And a grind. Novelty soon wears off.

On GP its worth a try

I was willing to pay £630 with a disc drive. Perhaps I’d have done £650. But I was expecting only 1tb

@NEStalgia with PC people also conveniently forget the hundreds and potentially thousands of £/$ of game libraries built up also.

If people won’t fork out £700-800 for a pro (so a new console every 4years) they sure as sh*t ain’t paying thousands upfront for a good gaming rig

@IOI im not excusing anything. I’ve stated several times across several threads it’s expensive. I gain nothing and lose nothing by them having the pro.

But beyond that the ‘abuse’ term needs to be levelled at literally every company out there. Because nothing is coming down.

@IOI so you are just ignoring the fact that inflation is a thing. Ok then. Or that everything in the world is totally different.

But Sony should keep everything the same?

if it was JUST Sony doing this I’d agree 100% but it’s everything.

@themightyant please enough with the common sense!

But yeah I must admit I thought the same.

If it means the consoles go to legit players then it’s worth it.

@themightyant stop talking sense man!

So what we are saying is. Although people are whining, there is a market after all and Sony may have known what they were doing?

Got it.

@IOI how are Sony being abusive? Games are same price? Console is same price as their rival? They have released various peripherals that there rivals haven’t?

@carlos82 the go faster stripes are worth £200 of anyone’s money!

I think they could have done a couple of options here.

2tb discless £700

1tb with disc drive £700.

May have ‘looked’ a better deal. I was expecting £630-50 with a drive tbh (at 1tb)

@Deityjester because if people cared about that, then they would have a pc anyway.

@NoHope the price is pretty similar across US EU and UK no?

@LN78 why worry about something 4+
Years away? We may be streaming by that point.

Or the pro is a niche machine, that will sell just a couple of million. The 6 will (most likely) sell 10’s of millions. Reducing the cost. (Evonomies if scale)

@Bamila

It still offers a lot more convenience than building and maintaining a PC (and still cheaper than a high end GPU)

@GreatAuk @johncalmc sell your OG ps5 will reduce the cost a significant amount.

@LogicStrikesAgain because in the US different states have different tax levels so they can’t.

@Icey664 add the tax on that $700

@themightyant somebody with a balanced take there. Fully agree it’s too pricey.

Too many people just reading the headline number and forgetting the rest. The poll on the site shows around 10% early interest which would be a good uptake imo.

It’s totally optional as is the Edge or Portal, that both seem to have sold well.