I'm sure they would have made just as much money without any complaints if they called the release version "Beta 1", or early access with an ETA for the final version set in 2022
@Icey664 my thoughts exactly considering the dev team didn't expect the game to be playable until 2022. I wonder if the game will be playable when they reach version 1.99 or if they'll continue into the hundreds
@LiterallyDoNotCare I don't think you'd like to be insulted for no reason if Sony decides to increase their subscription price. It not as if Xbox owners could have predicticted this when they bought a brand new Series X/S.
I forgot they decided to release DLCs to compensate for the insane price drop of the original game. It doesn't exactly inspired me to buy the game, and I highly doubt a demo would change anything
@sketchturner I get your point, but it's like buying BotW on a Wii U because you don't want to buy a Switch. It's a minority of potential buyers that will prevent the game from reaching the highest quality. And just like you, HZD was the single reason for me to buy a PS4 (pro), except forbidden west will be the justification for a PS5 once Sony fixes that sh*t of a website and finish developing the console so it's actually usable.
@TheArt It's not about running well or crashing, but building a game for the ground up without the limitations of older hardware. For example, you can expect to have loading screens on PS5 (much shorter than on PS4) instead of a fully seamless world if it was a new gen exclusive.
@WallyWest That the most logical explanation. I'd still support the temporary ban of all broken games until they are fixed, or simply a proper quality check before release.
I've been suggestion to restore the death penalty specifically for scalpers as a joke for ages, but this makes it a little bit too real. I don't see how they could ever implement this, but it would be the first political decision I'd fully support in over 13 billion years (I'm not that old, but the universe is).
I'm still looking for my wishlist on the website. I guess it's fitting for Sony to have acquired Crunchyroll since they managed to develop the worst streaming service of all time.
@Mpquikster My best guess is greed. Either employees leaving for a more lucrative job, or asking for a bigger paycheck and being sacked for it. Another possibility is the studio getting bigger and needing more staff, possibly to work on multiple projects.
@Jimmer-jammer I too like your dream world. You can also add everyone as a trillionaire, no work, no illnesses and 1000 year lifespans of pure happiness for humans and it wouldn't be any less plausible.
I am pretty sure it has to do with CDPR openly offering refunds. Sony likes it's money and doesn't want to give it back. This is the major difference with other trainwrecks they have on the ps store. That and the fact that Cyberpunk 2077 broke some pre-order records.
How is this game banned from the ps store when games like ANTHEM, which broke consoles, were never removed? I'm not saying it shouldn't be removed from the shop, I'm saying many other games should be removed until they are playable.
What I'd like for a PS5 is to have a very special edition known as "available for purchase". Nothing fancy, just enough stock to be scalper proof and leave those {insert extremely harsh insult} with the unsold stock and a huge money loss.
I'm sure people are already eager to see their next game a year a or so after its release... Nah, being human means you never learn, so people will still be surprised when they get a fully broken game.
@nessisonett Think positively: HZD stayed an exclusive long enough to be relevant as a PS4 game and more sales on PC means bigger budget for the sequel! Which may or may not be ported to PC after a few years and I will say the same thing again hoping for a third entry in the series... Now I'm fantasising about Horizon 3 on PS6. What was the article about?
So the only version available is for the console that can't run the game and the one that has a chance to run properly is 6-12 months off? Were releases for Witcher 1-3 this bad?
I would really enjoy seeing all Star wars games by EA bomb while quality games from other publishers sell like crazy. But for now I'm just curious to see what Ubisoft makes of Rainbow 66: Jedi's Creed
The only justification to buy a PS4 would be to wait for the PS5 pro because you can't afford a ps5 today. Or because your life will end if you don't buy a console in the next 24h and you can't find a PS5, in which case I'd recommend a Switch so you have 2 platforms when you get your hands on a ps5
Some of those prediction are rather funny and really unlikely. Nothing on Horizon Forbidden West? What about a Mario/Uncharted crossover? Sony buying more studios? Sony not being a bunch of a**holes anymore forbidding crossplay? What about a PS exclusive GTA spin-off with bows instead of guns and mammoths instead of cars?
The name 13 sentinels kind of rings a bell, but I've never looked at it closely. Another game on my radar, great job PS! That's not ironic, great job peaking my interest, and to another year being distracted from the lockdown by your beautiful site (still no irony, I love it here).
@thefourfoldroot Here we go again... Most modern games require the use of the left stick. Please, do tell me how it fits naturally under your thumb.
The main analog stick (left one) requires a lot more precision than a D-pad, so why is it so far from the natural position for the thumb? If you have another reason than Sony being too lazy or incompetent to resign their controller, please let me know.
@captainsandman The switch and Xbox series X/S never had major software issues like the PS5. Previous gen console sales is irrelevant to the quality of the current gen. And launch sales are pretty much predetermined by owners of the previous gen.
I have an Xbox one controller and a switch pro controller. The dualshock is by far my least favourite and the most unnatural to hold. I haven't touched a dualsense yet, but it is pretty much the same thing with extra technology and slightly improved. Still, ergonomically, Sony controllers are by far the worst.
Speaking of ancient, they have never bothered rethinking the overall button arrangement since the original PlayStation, so this is pretty much another revamp of a 25 year old controller. I guess many people like nostalgia more than logic
You know it's a PlayStation dedicated website when nobody voted "poor" or "very poor". Review bombing is a real Plague and I'm glad we're in a safe place here
@captainsandman Oh my. I stopped doing tech support for friends and family after a decade of headache (I'm bald, so it was time to put my foot down).
There is a lot that sucked around the PS5 launch. The software is crap compared to the series X/S, the website was and still is an insult to their clients, the marketing and communication was abysmal. They did way worse than Microsoft and Nintendo with their last consoles, pandemic or not
I imagine any tomb raider fan already own Shadow. Maneater seems fun but they give us the finger by restricting it to the unavailable PS5. I guess I'll give greed fall a try if I don't have anything else to play.
@Robinsad I had the same problem a while ago. You need to clear your cookies for that trainwreck of a website and log back in.
@get2sammyb The old ps store wasn't good, but seems incredibly great compared to the current one. It doesn't even feel like a website from this decade.
Godfall still costs £52.49 too much for me to be interested. Also that store is such a turd. I don't have the willpower to go through the whole sales to find something. Wake me up when they restored basic functionalities like any website from after 2005.
@Crliev I'm mostly pissed off at Sony for removing a feature that is a no brainer to have on their website. Also I don't have, nor will I ever have, an apple device.
@neurosteroid personally I'm waiting for a 2TB PS5. I'll see if the GOTY edition comes first. But £10 + season pass has to be cheaper than a GOTY. Also I wonder if a PS4 season pass is compatible with the PS5 upgrade or if it's only the base game???? I wish Sony gave clear info about upgrades
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Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 360
Issue 360? Picking up Steam? I thought this website was about PlayStation.
Currently playing Indivisible. And what a mess it is. The platforming sucks and nothing is properly explained
Re: Mystery Metal Gear Solid Reunion Teases with 'Details Coming Soon'
They will finally release what everyone is looking for: Metal Gear Survive Mobile (codename shovelware) with obligatory microtransactions
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Patch 1.10 Out Now on PS5, PS4, Includes Crash Fixes and Stability Improvements
I'm sure they would have made just as much money without any complaints if they called the release version "Beta 1", or early access with an ETA for the final version set in 2022
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Patch 1.10 Out Now on PS5, PS4, Includes Crash Fixes and Stability Improvements
@Icey664 my thoughts exactly considering the dev team didn't expect the game to be playable until 2022. I wonder if the game will be playable when they reach version 1.99 or if they'll continue into the hundreds
Re: Talking Point: What Free February 2021 PS Plus Games Do You Want?
A 4K/60fps with RTX version of Miles Morales running on PS4.
Re: PS Plus Looks Like a Steal When Compared to New Xbox Live Gold Prices
@LiterallyDoNotCare I don't think you'd like to be insulted for no reason if Sony decides to increase their subscription price. It not as if Xbox owners could have predicticted this when they bought a brand new Series X/S.
Re: Resident Evil Re:Verse Leaks Ahead of Capcom's Showcase Event
Wow, it's been at least 12 seconds since the last leak. I wonder how many games were revealed without any leak these past few years.
Re: Immortals Fenyx Rising PS5, PS4 Demo Glides into View
I forgot they decided to release DLCs to compensate for the insane price drop of the original game. It doesn't exactly inspired me to buy the game, and I highly doubt a demo would change anything
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Production Efforts Boosted as PC Patches Wind Down
@sketchturner I get your point, but it's like buying BotW on a Wii U because you don't want to buy a Switch. It's a minority of potential buyers that will prevent the game from reaching the highest quality. And just like you, HZD was the single reason for me to buy a PS4 (pro), except forbidden west will be the justification for a PS5 once Sony fixes that sh*t of a website and finish developing the console so it's actually usable.
Re: The Evolution of Agent 47's Face Makes for Nightmare Fuel
To be honest, they're all scaring the hell out of me. And I see myself every morning in the mirror so I thought I was immuned to scary faces.
Re: PS5 Stock Demand Overwhelms Another Online Retailer
Why would so many people fight over cat litter? Or was it nerf guns? Oh my bad, that was Amazon, not Curry's.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Production Efforts Boosted as PC Patches Wind Down
@TheArt It's not about running well or crashing, but building a game for the ground up without the limitations of older hardware. For example, you can expect to have loading screens on PS5 (much shorter than on PS4) instead of a fully seamless world if it was a new gen exclusive.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Has Now Been Missing from the PS Store for a Month
@WallyWest That the most logical explanation. I'd still support the temporary ban of all broken games until they are fixed, or simply a proper quality check before release.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Production Efforts Boosted as PC Patches Wind Down
I really wish this game was a PS5 exclusive. Crossgen games never properly use the new and improved hardware and controls.
Re: PS5 Stock Shortage Has UK Politicians Pushing for Online Bot Ban
I've been suggestion to restore the death penalty specifically for scalpers as a joke for ages, but this makes it a little bit too real. I don't see how they could ever implement this, but it would be the first political decision I'd fully support in over 13 billion years (I'm not that old, but the universe is).
Re: New PS Store Sale Includes Loads of Super Cheap PS4 Games
I'm still looking for my wishlist on the website. I guess it's fitting for Sony to have acquired Crunchyroll since they managed to develop the worst streaming service of all time.
Re: PS Store Sells Yakuza Series for Peanuts, But You've Got to Be Quick
I've been interested in these games for a while but never got to buy one. And I'm not missing that offer for zero.
Also I hate the new PS store. That turd is slow and broken. It's like the Cyberpunk 2077 of console websites.
Re: Balan Wonderworld Gets a Demo Next Week on PS5, PS4
There is absolutely nothing tha appeals to me in this game. Event the title, I still read Bland Underworld and it fits better than the real title.
Re: God of War Ragnarok Dev Already Hiring for Next Game
@Mpquikster My best guess is greed. Either employees leaving for a more lucrative job, or asking for a bigger paycheck and being sacked for it. Another possibility is the studio getting bigger and needing more staff, possibly to work on multiple projects.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Has Now Been Missing from the PS Store for a Month
@Jimmer-jammer I too like your dream world. You can also add everyone as a trillionaire, no work, no illnesses and 1000 year lifespans of pure happiness for humans and it wouldn't be any less plausible.
I am pretty sure it has to do with CDPR openly offering refunds. Sony likes it's money and doesn't want to give it back. This is the major difference with other trainwrecks they have on the ps store. That and the fact that Cyberpunk 2077 broke some pre-order records.
Re: PS5 UK Restock Targeted by Scalpers Again, Group Claims More Than 2,000 Orders Made
@Emperor_Rusty it's not a consultation.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Has Now Been Missing from the PS Store for a Month
How is this game banned from the ps store when games like ANTHEM, which broke consoles, were never removed? I'm not saying it shouldn't be removed from the shop, I'm saying many other games should be removed until they are playable.
Re: Random: Watch Someone Build an Awesome See-Through PlayStation 2 Console
Well I just learned the PS2 had a radiator.
What I'd like for a PS5 is to have a very special edition known as "available for purchase". Nothing fancy, just enough stock to be scalper proof and leave those {insert extremely harsh insult} with the unsold stock and a huge money loss.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Grand Theft Auto V Is the Week's Best-Selling Physical PlayStation Game
With a new gen upgrade for GTA V, they should be able to reach 1 trillion copies sold very soon.
Re: CD Projekt Committed to 'Many Plans' Once Cyberpunk 2077 Is Sorted Out
I'm sure people are already eager to see their next game a year a or so after its release... Nah, being human means you never learn, so people will still be surprised when they get a fully broken game.
Re: PS4 FMV Thriller Erica Launches on iOS
@nessisonett Think positively: HZD stayed an exclusive long enough to be relevant as a PS4 game and more sales on PC means bigger budget for the sequel! Which may or may not be ported to PC after a few years and I will say the same thing again hoping for a third entry in the series... Now I'm fantasising about Horizon 3 on PS6. What was the article about?
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 PS4 Patch Coming Within 10 Days, Native PS5 Version Set for Second Half of 2021
So the only version available is for the console that can't run the game and the one that has a chance to run properly is 6-12 months off? Were releases for Witcher 1-3 this bad?
Re: EA Will Keep Making Star Wars Games Despite End of Exclusive Deal
I would really enjoy seeing all Star wars games by EA bomb while quality games from other publishers sell like crazy. But for now I'm just curious to see what Ubisoft makes of Rainbow 66: Jedi's Creed
Re: PS2-Style PS5 Consoles Withdrawn From Sale After Company Receives 'Credible Threats'
They should have used Kickstarter. That turd of a service lets people cash in the money without delivering anything.
Re: Lots of PS5 Games Given Release Windows, Including Solar Ash, Kena, and Stray
At least we know we'll till have things to play in the 4th year of the Pandemic, with tier 462 lockdown in the UK.
Re: Custom Black PS5 Consoles, Controllers Will Be Available to Pre-Order This Week
I would only settle for a hello kitty controller. My niece would love it as a gateway drug towards total life destruction by videogame addiction.
Re: Is It Worth Buying a PS4 in 2021?
The only justification to buy a PS4 would be to wait for the PS5 pro because you can't afford a ps5 today. Or because your life will end if you don't buy a console in the next 24h and you can't find a PS5, in which case I'd recommend a Switch so you have 2 platforms when you get your hands on a ps5
Re: Game of the Year: Robert's Top 5 PS5, PS4 Games of 2020
Someone likes JRPGs. I respect that.
Re: Feature: 12 PS5, PS4 Predictions for 2021
Some of those prediction are rather funny and really unlikely. Nothing on Horizon Forbidden West? What about a Mario/Uncharted crossover? Sony buying more studios? Sony not being a bunch of a**holes anymore forbidding crossplay? What about a PS exclusive GTA spin-off with bows instead of guns and mammoths instead of cars?
Re: Game of the Year: Best PS5, PS4 Story of 2020
The name 13 sentinels kind of rings a bell, but I've never looked at it closely. Another game on my radar, great job PS! That's not ironic, great job peaking my interest, and to another year being distracted from the lockdown by your beautiful site (still no irony, I love it here).
Re: Soapbox: PS5's Pad Has Made All Other Controllers Feel Ancient
@thefourfoldroot Here we go again... Most modern games require the use of the left stick. Please, do tell me how it fits naturally under your thumb.
The main analog stick (left one) requires a lot more precision than a D-pad, so why is it so far from the natural position for the thumb? If you have another reason than Sony being too lazy or incompetent to resign their controller, please let me know.
Re: Sony Sends Employees Custom Commemorative PS5 Jackets
@captainsandman The switch and Xbox series X/S never had major software issues like the PS5. Previous gen console sales is irrelevant to the quality of the current gen. And launch sales are pretty much predetermined by owners of the previous gen.
Re: Soapbox: PS5's Pad Has Made All Other Controllers Feel Ancient
I have an Xbox one controller and a switch pro controller. The dualshock is by far my least favourite and the most unnatural to hold. I haven't touched a dualsense yet, but it is pretty much the same thing with extra technology and slightly improved. Still, ergonomically, Sony controllers are by far the worst.
Speaking of ancient, they have never bothered rethinking the overall button arrangement since the original PlayStation, so this is pretty much another revamp of a 25 year old controller. I guess many people like nostalgia more than logic
Re: Game of the Year: #3 - Ghost of Tsushima
You know it's a PlayStation dedicated website when nobody voted "poor" or "very poor". Review bombing is a real Plague and I'm glad we're in a safe place here
Re: Sony Sends Employees Custom Commemorative PS5 Jackets
@captainsandman Oh my. I stopped doing tech support for friends and family after a decade of headache (I'm bald, so it was time to put my foot down).
There is a lot that sucked around the PS5 launch. The software is crap compared to the series X/S, the website was and still is an insult to their clients, the marketing and communication was abysmal. They did way worse than Microsoft and Nintendo with their last consoles, pandemic or not
Re: PS Plus January 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Announced
I imagine any tomb raider fan already own Shadow. Maneater seems fun but they give us the finger by restricting it to the unavailable PS5.
I guess I'll give greed fall a try if I don't have anything else to play.
Re: Sony Sends Employees Custom Commemorative PS5 Jackets
Considering how bad that launch was, they shouldn't want to commemorate just yet andbsort it out first.
Re: Reaction: Sony's New PS Store Is Actively Preventing Fans from Spending Money
@Robinsad I had the same problem a while ago. You need to clear your cookies for that trainwreck of a website and log back in.
@get2sammyb The old ps store wasn't good, but seems incredibly great compared to the current one. It doesn't even feel like a website from this decade.
Re: PS Store Holiday Sale Has More Than 1,000 PS5, PS4 Deals
@OthmaneAD Read my comment again. I'm saying I need a 100% discount to even be remotely interested
Re: PS Store Holiday Sale Has More Than 1,000 PS5, PS4 Deals
Godfall still costs £52.49 too much for me to be interested. Also that store is such a turd. I don't have the willpower to go through the whole sales to find something. Wake me up when they restored basic functionalities like any website from after 2005.
Re: Feature: Our PS5, PS4 Predictions for 2020 - How Did We Do?
I have a prediction for the next 25 years: scalpers will still exist.
Re: PS Store January Sale Starts Tomorrow, Promises 'Huge Savings'
@Crliev I'm mostly pissed off at Sony for removing a feature that is a no brainer to have on their website. Also I don't have, nor will I ever have, an apple device.
Re: PS Store January Sale Starts Tomorrow, Promises 'Huge Savings'
It's funny, because to me, a good sales means huge spendings, not huge savings.
Also I'll wait for the wishlist to come back to the website rather than scrolling through 900 games.
Re: PS5 Hardware Trailer Is Completely X-Rated
Don't you mean Cross-rated?
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Consistent Crashing Issue Still Not Fixed on PS5, PS4 After Patch 1.05
@neurosteroid personally I'm waiting for a 2TB PS5. I'll see if the GOTY edition comes first. But £10 + season pass has to be cheaper than a GOTY. Also I wonder if a PS4 season pass is compatible with the PS5 upgrade or if it's only the base game???? I wish Sony gave clear info about upgrades