@twitchtvpat you need to read the whole post and not just half of it. I also said "if" at the beginning and "But my gut feeling tells me that Sony is stupid enough to go the Nintendo route, and that they'll get away with it too." in the last half.
@Fyz306903 If Sony added full (on par with Xbox) BC support. Allowing past digital and disc purchases to be used, I'd make the PS5 my first 9th gen console.
But my gut feeling tells me that Sony is stupid enough to go the Nintendo route, and that they'll get away with it too.
There are actually two PS4 versions. One is the standard The Witcher 3 and the other is the complete edition. I'd assume that not just the CE will recieve the upgrade.
So will both get the upgrade to the same PS5 CE, or is the PS5 getting two version as well?
@xyopic I've played Skyrim on 4 or 5 different platforms, and the PS3 version is the only one that's ever given me any problems. It lagged so hard that it killed my Phat PS3.
Compared to that, the xbox, Switch, and PS4 versions have been flawless.
@torne Might have something to do with the prevalence of these glitches that some experience in Skyrim vs the incomplete job and just straight out poor upgrade work of assets that everyone experiences in GTA.
@AV_aka_577_ex-Xbox "It is the most recycled game in the history of modern gaming."
With RE4 existing, I'm not sure that is true.
"We spent lots of money on ONE recycled game. That is the fact."
Right, but you didn't have to buy the game, especially the Anniversary stuff. You could have just stuck with the free SE PS5 upgrade. The fact you keep spending money on this game, apparently with zero self control, is the reason it keeps getting releases. Todd Howard even said "the popularity didn't wane".
@PhhhCough This is why I laugh when a site puts out a review and you get the line of people going "saved me money".
Take the Pushsquare Alan Wake review. Averaged an 8 on Metacritic, but had a 6 here, and you unironically had people deciding to not buy a game based on one review on the lower end of the scale.
And I really can't comprehend a person who is spending their money based on what a stranger on the Internet is saying. Have more respect for people buying AC, Fifa and COD every year because at least they are excited for the product they are buying.
@GorosBat Handsome Jack appears in quite a few "best villains" lists, more so than any TLOU villains.
And TT' Dragon Keep DLC is probably the most memorable BL moment. It's a 13 year old processing grief through the use of a D&D game. I think a lot of players may be able to relate to that.
@AV_aka_577_ex-Xbox The Special Edition is the only version of Skyrim on the PS4. So you would have bought the PS3 version and the PS4 version. That's it.
The only way you bought more than two copies would be if you bought the PS3 standard version (2011) then the PS3 Legendary Edition (2013, which was expected since Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, and New Vegas all recieved similar editions, plus the extra content was available for the original release) and then the PS4 Special Edition (2016) and/or the PS4 VR version.
"I need to pay again for the same game with a few upgrades"
I actually think that you misunderstand. Because you own the Special Edition, you get the PS5 version, with some DLC, completely free. You don't need to buy the game all over again. It's yours. The only thing you need to do, is pay an extra $20, but only if the completely optional creation club content appeals to you.
And that's the problem, people are acting like this, what is essentially, DLC is forcing them to buy the game again, it's not.
I'm amazed by how many people here are really upset they have to pay $50 dollars for Skyrim AE, despite apparently never being interested enough in Skyrim SE that has been out for 5 years and regularly went on sale for $16 or less.
It's almost like you have no interest in the game but saw an opportunity to play fanboys.
“We introduced them as an option for an evolving player base, and did not see them as pay-to-win since they don't offer power directly.”
That's kinda worse.
1) "option" never means option. It means "deflect from our attempt at predatory tactics"
2) You're in the business of game design and you didn't understand that boosts were a direct affect on the design of your game? You're either lying or incompetent.
@Telekill The term has been used for at least 12 years. Going back to the release of Shadow Complex. It may be older, but this was when I first remember hearing it and have actual confirmation of it being used.
@Voltan @DeepSpace5D Returnal only lists PS5 under its game page. Deathloop and Godfall are both listed as PS4 and PS5. Godfall was paid to be PS5 exclusive. Deathloop was paid to be PS5 exclusive.
I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice the page listing for Deathloop. I've been working under the assumption that the listing isn't an error, it's pending the inevitable PS4, Xbox One, and Xbox Series launches next year.
@nessisonett I've intentionally not shown my partner the trailer because of that. She had it bad enough with people mocking her for saying "fesh" or when she worked at cineworld and customers look at her in shock for telling them their movie was in "screen sex"
@rjejr Claudia Black is about the same age as Fillion though, so I personally would frame the entire story as a flashback/greatest hits adventure. That see's the older cast revisit previous locations, cutting to their CGI younger selves having a massive adventure and then back to their older selves struggling to do the things they use to and just generally having more of a misadventure.
I think the juxtaposition and comedy would fit well in to the wheelhouse of some of these older actors.
@chicken_chaser This looks 100 times better than what Sabre did with Halo CE and 2 though.
I've reverted back to classic graphics in the older Halo titles because the artstyle of CE and 2 were mostly obliterated by the remaster. These GTA remasters look to keep the old artstyle (even if some here seem to care more about graphics than artstyle) and that's a huge plus for this project.
@Divergent95 Oh, and let's not forget Sony earned more than any other company between 2019 and 2020 (pre-price hike) and about four times as much as EA (nearly $20bn vs $5bn).
People like to talk about paying devs, inflation, and game dev costs, but these aren't struggling companies. They could easily absorb the costs, they just don't want to see their profits shrink.
@KippDynamite That's why I said "to the best of their ability". If they broke a game down in to components, like graphics, gameplay, story, and value, and rated those, then used the average to get a total, that would be more objective than just slapping a random number on the end.
@velio84 "The review is a personal opinion of the person reviewing the game.
So the author just saved me 25 euros and I'll either wait for a sale or to come to PS+."
But why though?. You've arbitrarily decided that this one person's opinion is somehow more valid than everybody elses. More so than people on these forums, more so so the opinions of other reviewers who also get paid to give opinions.
If you considered this review a more objective breakdown of the game, then I'd understand, but the fact you defend the 'it's just an opinion' argument, then take it as fact is what boggles my mind on how the professional reviews are done and used.
At least the people who don't agree with the review because they've experienced the game first hand and have that reasoning behind it (even if it's bias), and their opinion is clearly at odds with the reviewers. Your stance makes no sense because you have no opinion on the game for you to compare against this reviewer's opinion. Yet you've settled on the legitimacy of the reviewer's opinion anyway.
@trev666 This is why professional reviews scores are BS. If there's no set standard for objectively reviewing a game to the best of their ability, and the score is just "an opinion" then they are no better than user reviews.
"The repetition in Alan Wake borders on self-parody at times. Practically every chapter begins with you somehow getting separated from everybody, losing all of your equipment, and finding yourself lost in the woods. It just keeps happening"
He's stuck in a twilight-esque story universe that requires these contrived plot points to progress, and Alan keeps writing himself in deeper in an attempt to get out.
I thought that was the whole point of the story.
I'm sure he even tries to cheat the story logic and it backfires on him. Feels cheap to give the game a low score when something integral to the story was missed like that.
I'm now more concerned about what he knows and who he's potentially protecting.
I'm just saying, either you know nothing and you're just trying blackmail someone for work/money, or you know something really bad that some higher ups have done and you're keeping it secret until it's most beneficial to you.
I have very little sympathy in regards to game budgets. It's mostly a self inflicted injury. That's the price of going from having 9 guys make Goldeneye, to having hundreds make God of War.
I've always hated the straight inflation comparison for entertainment prices. It does not take in to account how spending power has drastically changed since the 90s.
Hot take: Every game should be a complete product. Both in terms of story and content.
The idea of a planned trilogy is great, especially when they promise to carry over character progression, like in Mass Effect and Too Human, but this can easily backfire, like in Mass Effect and Too Human.
Normally a trilogy has worn thin or gets ruined by the third entry anyway (Hello Dead Space), and the ones that are actually good usually aren't planned as trilogies and just end that way by chance (Hello Halo). Meanwhile, soft sequels/reboots allow far more freedom in both story telling and gameplay advancement anyway, or at least allow new players to dive in without feeling like they've missed some crucial set up to that experience.
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Re: Mini Review: Terminator: Resistance Annihilation Line (PS5) – Mediocre Future Fighting Is Still One for the Fans
@Uncharted2007 Are we talking more Alien: Isolation or Dying Light?
Re: Mini Review: Terminator: Resistance Annihilation Line (PS5) – Mediocre Future Fighting Is Still One for the Fans
@Uncharted2007 The problem is the market. If you make a game that's not like cod, it gets piled on for not being "modern" enough.
I think the FPS games that end up being the best are the ones that buck the trend or fall just as much in to another genre, rather than just action.
Re: Rumour: New PlayStation Subscription Will Give Access to PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP Games
@twitchtvpat you need to read the whole post and not just half of it. I also said "if" at the beginning and "But my gut feeling tells me that Sony is stupid enough to go the Nintendo route, and that they'll get away with it too." in the last half.
Re: Mini Review: Serious Sam 4 (PS5) - Mental Breakdown
It's a shame, because there's definitely room and market for old school shooters.
They just really need to put more time, care, and creativity in to the work.
Re: PS Plus Blocks Free Mortal Shell PS5 Upgrade
(not that I have a PS5 yet, but) I've cancelled my NSO sub, and I'm this close to cancelling my PSN+ sub too.
Re: Rumour: New PlayStation Subscription Will Give Access to PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP Games
@twitchtvpat What are you on about?. I never said we should get free streaming.
Re: Rumour: New PlayStation Subscription Will Give Access to PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP Games
@twitchtvpat I'm saying I'm not expecting Sony to provide BC support on a system level, but to instead provide it through a streaming service.
The people I'm replying to seem to think that the support will be system level.
Re: Rumour: New PlayStation Subscription Will Give Access to PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP Games
@Fyz306903 If Sony added full (on par with Xbox) BC support. Allowing past digital and disc purchases to be used, I'd make the PS5 my first 9th gen console.
But my gut feeling tells me that Sony is stupid enough to go the Nintendo route, and that they'll get away with it too.
Re: Rumour: New PlayStation Subscription Will Give Access to PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP Games
"service will give access to PS1-3 titles, and have tiers"
Right, because everybody was so happy that Nintendo went that route.
Re: Godfall's PS Plus Version Is All Endgame Content, No Story Campaign
@gomersoul You and me share a dream, my friend.
Re: The Witcher 3 PS5 Targets Q2 2022 Release Date
There are actually two PS4 versions. One is the standard The Witcher 3 and the other is the complete edition. I'd assume that not just the CE will recieve the upgrade.
So will both get the upgrade to the same PS5 CE, or is the PS5 getting two version as well?
Re: Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection Now Rated for Release on PS5, PC in North America
When a £10 upgrade cost isn't enough, just sell them the game again for £70.
Re: Skyrim Patch Incoming, Fixes Black Screen Bug and Other Tech Issues on PS5, PS4
@xyopic I've played Skyrim on 4 or 5 different platforms, and the PS3 version is the only one that's ever given me any problems. It lagged so hard that it killed my Phat PS3.
Compared to that, the xbox, Switch, and PS4 versions have been flawless.
Re: Skyrim Patch Incoming, Fixes Black Screen Bug and Other Tech Issues on PS5, PS4
@torne Might have something to do with the prevalence of these glitches that some experience in Skyrim vs the incomplete job and just straight out poor upgrade work of assets that everyone experiences in GTA.
Re: Mini Review: Tiny Tina’s Assault on Dragon Keep: A Wonderlands One-Shot Adventure (PS4) – Fantasy-Themed Shooting Still Rocks
@colonelkilgore The first game really just gives context and back story for the vaults, Pandora, and the Crimson Raiders.
You could start at BL2 if you really wanted. I wouldn't personally, but I enjoy the first game more than most.
Re: Skyrim Anniversary Edition Upgrade Prices Revealed
@AV_aka_577_ex-Xbox "It is the most recycled game in the history of modern gaming."
With RE4 existing, I'm not sure that is true.
"We spent lots of money on ONE recycled game. That is the fact."
Right, but you didn't have to buy the game, especially the Anniversary stuff. You could have just stuck with the free SE PS5 upgrade. The fact you keep spending money on this game, apparently with zero self control, is the reason it keeps getting releases. Todd Howard even said "the popularity didn't wane".
Re: Unsurprisingly, the GTA Trilogy Is Getting Review Bombed on PS5, PS4
@PhhhCough This is why I laugh when a site puts out a review and you get the line of people going "saved me money".
Take the Pushsquare Alan Wake review. Averaged an 8 on Metacritic, but had a 6 here, and you unironically had people deciding to not buy a game based on one review on the lower end of the scale.
And I really can't comprehend a person who is spending their money based on what a stranger on the Internet is saying. Have more respect for people buying AC, Fifa and COD every year because at least they are excited for the product they are buying.
Re: Unsurprisingly, the GTA Trilogy Is Getting Review Bombed on PS5, PS4
Can't wait for Metacritic to remove all sub 7 point reviews. We need to protect all companies from criticism.
Re: Mini Review: Tiny Tina’s Assault on Dragon Keep: A Wonderlands One-Shot Adventure (PS4) – Fantasy-Themed Shooting Still Rocks
@GorosBat Handsome Jack appears in quite a few "best villains" lists, more so than any TLOU villains.
And TT' Dragon Keep DLC is probably the most memorable BL moment. It's a 13 year old processing grief through the use of a D&D game. I think a lot of players may be able to relate to that.
Re: GTA Trilogy's Inevitable Backlash Is Already Brewing
Internet: Still preorders games after a decade of unfinished game launches.
Also internet: "Why the hell are you releasing unfinished games?"
Re: Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep Loots Standalone PS4 Release
If this has its own trophy list then I'm sold.
Edit: Looks like it does. Complete with plat.
https://www.truetrophies.com/game/Tiny-Tinas-Assault-on-Dragon-Keep-A-Wonderlands-Oneshot-Adventure/trophies
Re: Cancelled Batman Game Concept Art Shows Old, Bearded Batman Alongside Younger Hero
This was just his covid beard.
Re: Skyrim Anniversary Edition Upgrade Prices Revealed
@johncalmc More or less.
The content you get with the £16 is the creation club content, which is already paid content.
If that's sounds unreasonable, just stick with the SE version and you'll get four DLC packs and the PS5 upgrade for free.
Re: Skyrim Anniversary Edition Upgrade Prices Revealed
@AV_aka_577_ex-Xbox The Special Edition is the only version of Skyrim on the PS4. So you would have bought the PS3 version and the PS4 version. That's it.
The only way you bought more than two copies would be if you bought the PS3 standard version (2011) then the PS3 Legendary Edition (2013, which was expected since Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, and New Vegas all recieved similar editions, plus the extra content was available for the original release) and then the PS4 Special Edition (2016) and/or the PS4 VR version.
"I need to pay again for the same game with a few upgrades"
I actually think that you misunderstand. Because you own the Special Edition, you get the PS5 version, with some DLC, completely free. You don't need to buy the game all over again. It's yours. The only thing you need to do, is pay an extra $20, but only if the completely optional creation club content appeals to you.
And that's the problem, people are acting like this, what is essentially, DLC is forcing them to buy the game again, it's not.
Re: Skyrim Anniversary Edition Upgrade Prices Revealed
I'm amazed by how many people here are really upset they have to pay $50 dollars for Skyrim AE, despite apparently never being interested enough in Skyrim SE that has been out for 5 years and regularly went on sale for $16 or less.
It's almost like you have no interest in the game but saw an opportunity to play fanboys.
Re: Square Enix Insinuates Crystal Dynamics Was the Wrong Dev for Marvel's Avengers
"we didn't get a sufficiently scummy dev to produce our sufficiently scummy vision for a sufficiently scummy money printing GAAS"
Re: Marvel's Avengers Dumps Damaging XP Booster Microtransactions
“We introduced them as an option for an evolving player base, and did not see them as pay-to-win since they don't offer power directly.”
That's kinda worse.
1) "option" never means option. It means "deflect from our attempt at predatory tactics"
2) You're in the business of game design and you didn't understand that boosts were a direct affect on the design of your game? You're either lying or incompetent.
Re: Mini Review: Carrion (PS4) - A Grotesque Metroidvania with an Incredible Atmosphere
@Telekill The term has been used for at least 12 years. Going back to the release of Shadow Complex. It may be older, but this was when I first remember hearing it and have actual confirmation of it being used.
https://www.destructoid.com/sdcc-shadow-complex-is-your-new-metroidvania/
Re: PS Store November Savings Sale Has Over 750 PS5, PS4 Game Deals
@Voltan @DeepSpace5D Returnal only lists PS5 under its game page. Deathloop and Godfall are both listed as PS4 and PS5. Godfall was paid to be PS5 exclusive. Deathloop was paid to be PS5 exclusive.
I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice the page listing for Deathloop. I've been working under the assumption that the listing isn't an error, it's pending the inevitable PS4, Xbox One, and Xbox Series launches next year.
Re: Video: PlayStation Productions and the New Era of Video Game Adaptations
@nessisonett I've intentionally not shown my partner the trailer because of that. She had it bad enough with people mocking her for saying "fesh" or when she worked at cineworld and customers look at her in shock for telling them their movie was in "screen sex"
Re: The Uncharted Movie Trailer Is Finally Here
@rjejr Claudia Black is about the same age as Fillion though, so I personally would frame the entire story as a flashback/greatest hits adventure. That see's the older cast revisit previous locations, cutting to their CGI younger selves having a massive adventure and then back to their older selves struggling to do the things they use to and just generally having more of a misadventure.
I think the juxtaposition and comedy would fit well in to the wheelhouse of some of these older actors.
Re: This Is What the GTA Trilogy Looks Like on PS5, PS4
@chicken_chaser This looks 100 times better than what Sabre did with Halo CE and 2 though.
I've reverted back to classic graphics in the older Halo titles because the artstyle of CE and 2 were mostly obliterated by the remaster. These GTA remasters look to keep the old artstyle (even if some here seem to care more about graphics than artstyle) and that's a huge plus for this project.
Re: The Uncharted Movie Trailer Is Finally Here
Film's not even out and I'm already dreaming of a reboot with James Gunn and Nathan Fillion.
Re: Capcom Teasing Seven Resident Evil Reveals for Halloween
The ones that would make me most happy are;
1) Classic Collection (RE1-CVX)
2) Revelations 3
3) Outbreak reboot
Re: Marvel's Avengers Attracts Ire After Adding XP Booster Microtransactions
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/08/soapbox_games_as_a_service_should_be_embraced_not_misunderstood
"upcoming experiences such as Marvel's Avengers are starting to shift things towards a much fairer model."
Remember the time that Push simped for live service games and Avengers in particular?
Re: PlayStation Boss Wants a Future Where Sony Games Aren't Gated from a Wider Audience
I have many thought on this.
But let's stick to just one. Why are classic PS titles still gated behind outdated hardware?
Either bring your legacy titles forward or make them available on PC. That would go a long way to remove barriers to playing Sony titles.
Re: Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City Looks Like a Total Cheese Fest
You know what?, that actually looked pretty good. Really wasn't expecting that.
And yeah, the cheesy b-movie aethetics of the original games is what made them work, so it makes sense that it helps make this work too.
I'm also a horror cheese fan, one of the reasons I enjoy the Doom movie.
Re: Battlefield 2042 Now Supports Dual Entitlement Digitally on PS5, PS4
@Divergent95 Oh, and let's not forget Sony earned more than any other company between 2019 and 2020 (pre-price hike) and about four times as much as EA (nearly $20bn vs $5bn).
People like to talk about paying devs, inflation, and game dev costs, but these aren't struggling companies. They could easily absorb the costs, they just don't want to see their profits shrink.
Re: Alan Wake Remastered (PS5) - Compelling Thriller Derailed by Tedious, Repetitive Combat
@KippDynamite That's why I said "to the best of their ability". If they broke a game down in to components, like graphics, gameplay, story, and value, and rated those, then used the average to get a total, that would be more objective than just slapping a random number on the end.
Re: Alan Wake Remastered (PS5) - Compelling Thriller Derailed by Tedious, Repetitive Combat
@velio84 "The review is a personal opinion of the person reviewing the game.
So the author just saved me 25 euros and I'll either wait for a sale or to come to PS+."
But why though?. You've arbitrarily decided that this one person's opinion is somehow more valid than everybody elses. More so than people on these forums, more so so the opinions of other reviewers who also get paid to give opinions.
If you considered this review a more objective breakdown of the game, then I'd understand, but the fact you defend the 'it's just an opinion' argument, then take it as fact is what boggles my mind on how the professional reviews are done and used.
At least the people who don't agree with the review because they've experienced the game first hand and have that reasoning behind it (even if it's bias), and their opinion is clearly at odds with the reviewers. Your stance makes no sense because you have no opinion on the game for you to compare against this reviewer's opinion. Yet you've settled on the legitimacy of the reviewer's opinion anyway.
Re: Alan Wake Remastered (PS5) - Compelling Thriller Derailed by Tedious, Repetitive Combat
@trev666 This is why professional reviews scores are BS. If there's no set standard for objectively reviewing a game to the best of their ability, and the score is just "an opinion" then they are no better than user reviews.
Re: Alan Wake Remastered (PS5) - Compelling Thriller Derailed by Tedious, Repetitive Combat
"The repetition in Alan Wake borders on self-parody at times. Practically every chapter begins with you somehow getting separated from everybody, losing all of your equipment, and finding yourself lost in the woods. It just keeps happening"
He's stuck in a twilight-esque story universe that requires these contrived plot points to progress, and Alan keeps writing himself in deeper in an attempt to get out.
I thought that was the whole point of the story.
I'm sure he even tries to cheat the story logic and it backfires on him. Feels cheap to give the game a low score when something integral to the story was missed like that.
Re: Twisted Metal Creator Hurt by Sony Snub Over Rumoured New Game
I'm now more concerned about what he knows and who he's potentially protecting.
I'm just saying, either you know nothing and you're just trying blackmail someone for work/money, or you know something really bad that some higher ups have done and you're keeping it secret until it's most beneficial to you.
Both are douche moves.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Great Week for PS5 Games as Deathloop Takes Top Spot
I have very little sympathy in regards to game budgets. It's mostly a self inflicted injury. That's the price of going from having 9 guys make Goldeneye, to having hundreds make God of War.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Great Week for PS5 Games as Deathloop Takes Top Spot
@elliottwilsonnn And it use to be in the 90s you'd pay around 4 times your salary to buy a house, now it's more like 12 times.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/02/housing-market-gulf-salaries-house-prices
I've always hated the straight inflation comparison for entertainment prices. It does not take in to account how spending power has drastically changed since the 90s.
Re: God of War's Norse Story Won't Be a Trilogy Because the Games Take Too Long to Make
Hot take: Every game should be a complete product. Both in terms of story and content.
The idea of a planned trilogy is great, especially when they promise to carry over character progression, like in Mass Effect and Too Human, but this can easily backfire, like in Mass Effect and Too Human.
Normally a trilogy has worn thin or gets ruined by the third entry anyway (Hello Dead Space), and the ones that are actually good usually aren't planned as trilogies and just end that way by chance (Hello Halo). Meanwhile, soft sequels/reboots allow far more freedom in both story telling and gameplay advancement anyway, or at least allow new players to dive in without feeling like they've missed some crucial set up to that experience.
Re: LittleBigPlanet PS3, Vita Servers Shut Down to Combat Hacker Issues
@Milt "Yeah but the servers for older games can't live for more than 10 years"
Best let CSGO players know this. The game turns 10 next year.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Brings Venom to PS5 in 2023
Would be kinda epic if they dropped in Ghost-Spider and let you play 4 player.
Re: God of War Ragnarok Wraps Up Norse Storyline, All Nine Realms Featured
Are we allowed to call it God of War Ragnarok, now?
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Know How to Feel About This PS4-to-PS5 Upgrade Uproar
Ahh, the age old dilemma. To vote for Christmas or to not vote for Christmas. What's a turkey suppose to do?