I'm really surprised to read that about the music, I enjoy andrew hulshult's stuff as much, if not more than Mick Gordon's, I was really excited when I heard he was on board. I've got the dlc but not played much yet, I'll play and see what it's like.
@Woogy agreed. Don't think people realise how much faster it can kill your telly since it's always running at peak brightness. Esp with something like a menu that's bound to have a few static elements. Really hope you can turn it off and only activate it when needed (games etc).
Okay, @710King might be coming off a bit harsh, but he does have a point. I've seen people complain the new Crash game was too expensive, yet splash £60 every year on lineup updates. As good as the games can be, there is zero need for full games yearly. We could start with major releases every 3-4 years with decent overhauls and £10-20 yearly expansions in the years between, with squad updates and minor features. But again, why would they do that when players happily pay full price every single year.
@Arnna Lots of people reporting on it a little while ago but, Wario and Nibel included. Was before Demon's Souls was announced, so it's as good as confirmed mate.
@Nepp67 Aye but it's probably true though. It's cause they want them to make Bloodborne 2. Sony's got the IP and FromSoft doesn't want to atm, so Bluepoint is learning the ropes with Demon's Souls and Bloodborne remaster. After that they're moving to BB2.
@Nepp67 I think it is mate. Bluepoint's doing that one as well. Was announced by a leaker not too long ago, along with Demon's Souls which turned out to be true.
Tbh digital cost me less with buying psn credit, around the 50 mark. Which I think is a fine price for a new game, never understood why the outrage for this being full price. It's a new, full size crash game, it seems platformers don't have "the right" to be full price according to some people for some odd reason. Except if it's mario Odyssey of course, and then no one bats an eyelid.
@carlos82 yeah, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. It's also not quite release yet, so it could just be minor things that could be sorted out before launch.
@LiamCroft he does have a point man, 3D audio was locked on the PS series of headsets on the PS4, when it's perfectly fine to run on anything. Don't think that's being too suspicious when there's a precedent.
I get that deluxe editions are nothing new, but the amount is still staggering. If you look at the most recent PS4 exclusives (GoT, LoU2) the standard and deluxe editions were at £55/£65. That has now jumped to £70/£90. Up to a tenner up for each, I'd probably stomach, but this seems a bit too much.
What if you run the PS4 version of FIFA on the PS5 via back compat when you wanna play with PS4 pals? Considering it's a free upgrade, you should own both.
My only criticism is on length, I think the game would have benefited being a bit trimmed down and streamlined. I think a lot of the time it felt one or two encounters too many to get to the next story beat. Took me 25 hours to finish it, and I would rather have that be closer to 18, so not a huge amount.
Aside from that, loved everything else. Story was brave and great, liked the gameplay enough, and contrary to most people I've seen online, I didn't find it a complete harrowing downer. The game was serious, and dealt with dark themes overall, but I found plenty of moments of levity and fun, and ended on a positive note overall. I had a blast playing through this, 9/10 for me.
@TheFinalBoss710 It's a games console mate, nothing premium about it. Funny you mention that 450 would be the PS4's price today as opposed to 400, because 450 is exactly what I'm saying the PS5 will cost.
Anyway, you're not changing my mind, and I clearly am not changing yours. As I said, get back to me when the prices are announced. We'll see who was right then 🙂
Give or take $50, these will be the prices. I know a lot of you think I'm lowballing this, and you're welcome to come back to this thread with a big fat "I told you so" when that time comes. I'm quite convinced that's the region they'll go for.
@Ridwaano you've clearly not shopped for an SSD in a while mate. You can grab them easily at below £100/TB. This thing is 800 gig, and mass produced, so my guess is it will cost them around 100, if that.
And besides that, if they don't sell the thing, it doesn't matter. If the SeXbox comes out at 450, they will not want to be over 500.
You're all mad if you think Sony will go anywhere near the 600 mark. They want to forget "599 US Dollars" ever happened, they are not going to do that again. I can't see them going over 499 in any version, it's absurd. Especially since they've got competition to consider. Reminder, both the PS4 and PS4 Pro launched at 399 new, they're not going to almost double that.
It would also explain why they're shipping with a tiny drive, they're keeping costs as low as possible.
It's pretty sad really. PS1-3 had 2-3 new GTAs each! PS4 didn't see a single new entry, just a remaster and PS5 is getting, yet again, the same one doubly remastered.
@get2sammyb It's 2 minutes to midnight Sammy. Yes, if they built it with ps5 hardware specific in mind, they'd be able to push it as you say, but I don't think that can be done so last minute. If they did that now it would just look like a PS4 game that for some reason is a PS5 exclusive.
It's honestly a case by case scenario, I don't think a blanket "all games should have it" makes any sense. In the end, it should be up to the developer. If a game's difficulty/balancing is part of their creative vision, then they shouldn't feel forced to add easy modes just because some people want it.
@nessisonett While I'm on your side buddy, the fact that DT was a sexual predator was out there during the campaign (grab em by the **** etc). The ugly truth is, unfortunately, that his voters don't care about that in the slightest. They seem to support him no matter what.
Same as my username here. Clayman is the title of my favourite album, but it felt a tad too simple for a gamer tag, plus a bit more likely to run into others already having it. I was reading the Thomas Harris trilogy at the time, where people constantly refer to Hannibal as Dr Lecter, and felt that gave it a bit more gravitas. And after all that, I also thought DrClayman sounded pretty cool. So no, I'm never changing that.
@ShogunRok You're right about the fact that if someone goes off on their own there's not much to do to stop them. A couple of things are up to them though as well.
For example, if one of those four writers didn't want to do the excessive hours, but the other three were willing, there's not much of a chance he'd just abandon them and go home. Even though he'd have every right to, he'd still feel like he's not pulling his weight, even if the other three were all fine with it.
I appreciate the fact, if true, that it was one instance of it, but even when that happens, they should still play it on the dl. Mentioning a fact like that off handedly, with no reservations, in an article that's supposed to profile your company is irresponsible at the very least. Did anyone really need to know about that? Especially in Rockstar's case, which hasn't had the best history with working conditions.
And as someone else said in the comments, even Houser's second statement equates hard work with insane hours, which is insulting to the hundreds of people that I'm sure work very hard, and go home when they're supposed to.
Yes, no one had a gun to their head, but there's way subtler ways to force someone to do long hours, and making them feel guilty if they don't. That's some of the reasons why management should step in and send people home if things are getting out of hand, it's not always about the person doing the overtime. In a case like the above, where it was an isolated incident by senior management only, they shouldn't have even mentioned it.
@Neolit In that case you should know better. I've done my share of long hour weeks, in jobs that I fully well enjoyed, but there's no job in the world that's worth not seeing your family for 5 days a week.
Absolute scumbags if they allowed that to happen. I get the odd overtime day to finish something, but 100 hour weeks should be outright illegal. And if there's truly no other way to make a game like this, then don't make it. Make something you can make under normal working hours. It's a freaking video game in the end, not the cure for cancer.
I've never understood why people listen to Tidux. I've seen he's name mentioned way more times about getting something wrong than the other way around.
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Re: DOOM Eternal: The Ancient Gods - Part One - Much More of PS4's Best FPS
I'm really surprised to read that about the music, I enjoy andrew hulshult's stuff as much, if not more than Mick Gordon's, I was really excited when I heard he was on board. I've got the dlc but not played much yet, I'll play and see what it's like.
Re: PS5's User Interface Runs in Native 4K with HDR
@Woogy agreed. Don't think people realise how much faster it can kill your telly since it's always running at peak brightness. Esp with something like a menu that's bound to have a few static elements. Really hope you can turn it off and only activate it when needed (games etc).
Re: Here's How Spider-Man: Miles Morales Eliminates Load Times on PS5
Jeezo, what's everyone's beef with Digital Foundry? Guys are doing great work.
Re: FIFA 21 - A Step Up from FIFA 20, But Must Do Better on PS5
Okay, @710King might be coming off a bit harsh, but he does have a point. I've seen people complain the new Crash game was too expensive, yet splash £60 every year on lineup updates. As good as the games can be, there is zero need for full games yearly. We could start with major releases every 3-4 years with decent overhauls and £10-20 yearly expansions in the years between, with squad updates and minor features. But again, why would they do that when players happily pay full price every single year.
Re: Bloodborne Fan Makes 60 Frames-Per-Second Patch, Hopes Sony Releases PS5 Update
@Arnna Lots of people reporting on it a little while ago but, Wario and Nibel included. Was before Demon's Souls was announced, so it's as good as confirmed mate.
Re: Bloodborne Fan Makes 60 Frames-Per-Second Patch, Hopes Sony Releases PS5 Update
@Nepp67 Aye but it's probably true though. It's cause they want them to make Bloodborne 2. Sony's got the IP and FromSoft doesn't want to atm, so Bluepoint is learning the ropes with Demon's Souls and Bloodborne remaster. After that they're moving to BB2.
Re: Bloodborne Fan Makes 60 Frames-Per-Second Patch, Hopes Sony Releases PS5 Update
@Nepp67 I think it is mate. Bluepoint's doing that one as well. Was announced by a leaker not too long ago, along with Demon's Souls which turned out to be true.
Re: Bloodborne Fan Makes 60 Frames-Per-Second Patch, Hopes Sony Releases PS5 Update
Wait, I thought Bloodborne was getting a proper PS5 Remaster, kinda like Spider-Man?
Re: Naughty Dog Confirms All of Its PS4 Games Will Play on PS5
Wow, if you include the crash remakes, that's their entire PlayStation catalogue. Way of the warrior next please.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Physical Crash 4 Sales Down 80% on N. Sane Trilogy
@thefourfoldroot Don't forget there's also a lot more PS4s out there than Xbox ones. And the marketing as well to a degree, as mentioned.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Physical Crash 4 Sales Down 80% on N. Sane Trilogy
Tbh digital cost me less with buying psn credit, around the 50 mark. Which I think is a fine price for a new game, never understood why the outrage for this being full price. It's a new, full size crash game, it seems platformers don't have "the right" to be full price according to some people for some odd reason. Except if it's mario Odyssey of course, and then no one bats an eyelid.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered Looks Outstanding in 60FPS PS5 Footage
@carlos82 yeah, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. It's also not quite release yet, so it could just be minor things that could be sorted out before launch.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered Looks Outstanding in 60FPS PS5 Footage
@LiamCroft he does have a point man, 3D audio was locked on the PS series of headsets on the PS4, when it's perfectly fine to run on anything. Don't think that's being too suspicious when there's a precedent.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered Looks Outstanding in 60FPS PS5 Footage
Ouch, that looks a bit stuttery for 60. Either it's struggling to hit that or the frame pacing is a bit of a mess.
Re: Demon's Souls PS5 Details Digital Deluxe Edition
I get that deluxe editions are nothing new, but the amount is still staggering. If you look at the most recent PS4 exclusives (GoT, LoU2) the standard and deluxe editions were at £55/£65. That has now jumped to £70/£90. Up to a tenner up for each, I'd probably stomach, but this seems a bit too much.
Re: Demon's Souls PS5 Details Digital Deluxe Edition
Sony's lost the plot if they're chucking in a couple of items and a soundtrack and charging £90.
Re: Destruction AllStars on PS5 Finally Detailed, But No Gameplay Trailer
This sounds awful. Don't get me wrong, that game would be straight up my alley, but full price and MTX for a rocket league battler is ludicrous.
Re: Poll: Has Xbox's Bethesda Buyout Made You Reconsider a PS5 Purchase?
I was always going to buy both, but now I'm getting both at launch. Not just because of this, but also in combination with game pass.
Re: Will Bethesda's Games Be Exclusive to Xbox From Now On? We Don't Know Yet
@Iroha Doom Eternal. The answer is Doom Eternal.
Re: PS5 Game Install Sizes Revealed, And They're Enormous
It's alright though, cause they did their research and decided 825GB is the perfect size 🙄
Re: FIFA 21 Won't Allow PS5 and PS4 Players to Interact with Each Other
What if you run the PS4 version of FIFA on the PS5 via back compat when you wanna play with PS4 pals? Considering it's a free upgrade, you should own both.
Re: Talking Point: The Last of Us 2 Spoilers Discussion
My only criticism is on length, I think the game would have benefited being a bit trimmed down and streamlined. I think a lot of the time it felt one or two encounters too many to get to the next story beat. Took me 25 hours to finish it, and I would rather have that be closer to 18, so not a huge amount.
Aside from that, loved everything else. Story was brave and great, liked the gameplay enough, and contrary to most people I've seen online, I didn't find it a complete harrowing downer. The game was serious, and dealt with dark themes overall, but I found plenty of moments of levity and fun, and ended on a positive note overall. I had a blast playing through this, 9/10 for me.
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Think the PS5 Will Cost?
@TheFinalBoss710 Okay pal 🙂
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Think the PS5 Will Cost?
@TheFinalBoss710 It's a games console mate, nothing premium about it. Funny you mention that 450 would be the PS4's price today as opposed to 400, because 450 is exactly what I'm saying the PS5 will cost.
Anyway, you're not changing my mind, and I clearly am not changing yours. As I said, get back to me when the prices are announced. We'll see who was right then 🙂
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Think the PS5 Will Cost?
My prediction is this:
Disc - $449
Digital - $399
Give or take $50, these will be the prices. I know a lot of you think I'm lowballing this, and you're welcome to come back to this thread with a big fat "I told you so" when that time comes. I'm quite convinced that's the region they'll go for.
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Think the PS5 Will Cost?
@IronMike 599 pounds?!?! So what, they're gonna launch at 699 dollars or over? That's madness
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Think the PS5 Will Cost?
@Ridwaano you've clearly not shopped for an SSD in a while mate. You can grab them easily at below £100/TB. This thing is 800 gig, and mass produced, so my guess is it will cost them around 100, if that.
And besides that, if they don't sell the thing, it doesn't matter. If the SeXbox comes out at 450, they will not want to be over 500.
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Think the PS5 Will Cost?
You're all mad if you think Sony will go anywhere near the 600 mark. They want to forget "599 US Dollars" ever happened, they are not going to do that again. I can't see them going over 499 in any version, it's absurd. Especially since they've got competition to consider. Reminder, both the PS4 and PS4 Pro launched at 399 new, they're not going to almost double that.
It would also explain why they're shipping with a tiny drive, they're keeping costs as low as possible.
Re: GTA 5 PS5 Will Be More Beautiful and Responsive Than Ever Before
It's pretty sad really. PS1-3 had 2-3 new GTAs each! PS4 didn't see a single new entry, just a remaster and PS5 is getting, yet again, the same one doubly remastered.
Re: Exclusive: PS5 to Receive Terafloppy Disks, Proprietary Hardware That Will Boost Teraflops Count
😂 exceptional!
Re: Platinum Games Sets Up Mysterious 'Platinum4' Teaser Site
Drakengard 4?
Re: Soundtrack of the Decade: #8 - Destiny’s Gameplay Provided the Canvas for Some of the Best Music of the Decade
If Nier Automata doesn't win this, I will flip a table. A small, unbreakable table probably, with nothing on it. But still.
Re: Futuristic PS5 Fan Design Is so Stylish
It looks very cool, however I don't think Sony would ever design a console even vaguely resembling a big X 😋
Re: Poll: Do You Still Want Ghost of Tsushima to Release on PS4?
@get2sammyb It's 2 minutes to midnight Sammy. Yes, if they built it with ps5 hardware specific in mind, they'd be able to push it as you say, but I don't think that can be done so last minute. If they did that now it would just look like a PS4 game that for some reason is a PS5 exclusive.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima's Graphics Are So Beautiful They Leave PlayStation Boss Mesmerised
What's the need for cross-gen release anyway? Assuming all the chat about PS5 being back compatted with PS4, you'll be able to play it on PS5 anyway.
Re: Rumour: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Release Date Leaked Ahead of Reveal
New Call of Duty launching this October?! What a surprising turn of events! 😁
Re: Official PS Plus May 2019 Videos Battered by Dislikes and Comments Section Outrage
@Dodoo eh, schematics.
Re: Official PS Plus May 2019 Videos Battered by Dislikes and Comments Section Outrage
How dare they give away one of the best games of the generation (Finch) for free!
Re: Talking Point: Should All Games Have an Easy Mode?
It's honestly a case by case scenario, I don't think a blanket "all games should have it" makes any sense. In the end, it should be up to the developer. If a game's difficulty/balancing is part of their creative vision, then they shouldn't feel forced to add easy modes just because some people want it.
Re: PS Plus Subscribers in Chicago Will Soon Have to Pay More
Chicago Bills.
Re: Rockstar Co-Founder Thankful He's Not Making Grand Theft Auto 6 in Trump Era
@nessisonett While I'm on your side buddy, the fact that DT was a sexual predator was out there during the campaign (grab em by the **** etc). The ugly truth is, unfortunately, that his voters don't care about that in the slightest. They seem to support him no matter what.
Re: Trine 4 Confirmed, Coming to PS4 in 2019
2D or not 2D? That is the question.
Re: Talking Point: What's the Background Behind Your PSN Username?
Same as my username here. Clayman is the title of my favourite album, but it felt a tad too simple for a gamer tag, plus a bit more likely to run into others already having it. I was reading the Thomas Harris trilogy at the time, where people constantly refer to Hannibal as Dr Lecter, and felt that gave it a bit more gravitas. And after all that, I also thought DrClayman sounded pretty cool. So no, I'm never changing that.
Re: Only a Handful of Senior Employees Worked 100 Hour Weeks on Red Dead Redemption 2, Rockstar Clarifies
@ShogunRok Oh definitely, we're both in agreement there.
Re: Only a Handful of Senior Employees Worked 100 Hour Weeks on Red Dead Redemption 2, Rockstar Clarifies
@ShogunRok You're right about the fact that if someone goes off on their own there's not much to do to stop them. A couple of things are up to them though as well.
For example, if one of those four writers didn't want to do the excessive hours, but the other three were willing, there's not much of a chance he'd just abandon them and go home. Even though he'd have every right to, he'd still feel like he's not pulling his weight, even if the other three were all fine with it.
I appreciate the fact, if true, that it was one instance of it, but even when that happens, they should still play it on the dl. Mentioning a fact like that off handedly, with no reservations, in an article that's supposed to profile your company is irresponsible at the very least. Did anyone really need to know about that? Especially in Rockstar's case, which hasn't had the best history with working conditions.
And as someone else said in the comments, even Houser's second statement equates hard work with insane hours, which is insulting to the hundreds of people that I'm sure work very hard, and go home when they're supposed to.
Yes, no one had a gun to their head, but there's way subtler ways to force someone to do long hours, and making them feel guilty if they don't. That's some of the reasons why management should step in and send people home if things are getting out of hand, it's not always about the person doing the overtime. In a case like the above, where it was an isolated incident by senior management only, they shouldn't have even mentioned it.
Re: Rockstar Worked 100 Hour Weeks to Get Red Dead Redemption 2 Done
@Neolit In that case you should know better. I've done my share of long hour weeks, in jobs that I fully well enjoyed, but there's no job in the world that's worth not seeing your family for 5 days a week.
Re: Rockstar Worked 100 Hour Weeks to Get Red Dead Redemption 2 Done
Absolute scumbags if they allowed that to happen. I get the odd overtime day to finish something, but 100 hour weeks should be outright illegal. And if there's truly no other way to make a game like this, then don't make it. Make something you can make under normal working hours. It's a freaking video game in the end, not the cure for cancer.
Re: Guide: Best Assassin's Creed Games Ranked
I'm still early in on Odyssey, but here's my list as it stands so far. The ones I've played anyway:
01. Black Flag
02. Syndicate
03. Origins
04. Odyssey
05. AC3
06. AC2
07. Brotherhood
08. Unity
09. AC1
10. Revelations
Odyssey could go one up or one down, not 100% sure on a final verdict.
Re: PSN Name Change Rumour Is a Load of Nonsense
I've never understood why people listen to Tidux. I've seen he's name mentioned way more times about getting something wrong than the other way around.
Re: FIFA 19 Is the Latest Game to Get a Battle Royale Mode
Kinda sad it ends at 7 players. Would love it to be able to just keep going till there's 2 goalies cutting about 😂