They've got nothing to fear. I get what you're saying about mindshare, but you might be underestimating how much mindshare Horizon already has. It has consistently been voted one of the most anticipated games from gamers since its announcement (so is Zelda, I know), but it also has the advantage of launching in a platform that has three times the user base of Nintendo's two consoles combined (rough estimates by the way, I'm assuming Wii U is around 15 mil atm, and Switch will be very lucky to sell a million at launch). If I don't own a platform, or have no plans of buying, I generally switch off on their exclusives, that's why I think Horizon will still have a lot of mindshare.
Then again, I could be utterly wrong and I will have to eat my shoe
Mixed feelings about this one. Loved the way it combines three different genres, and the gameplay is really good, but I'm quite disappointed from the visuals. It really looks like a PS3 game, and the colour pallette isn't doing it any favours either. Bayonetta 2 was a gorgeous game, and it was running on a Wii U. I'm hoping there will be a bit more variety in the final game.
I feel it might be the lack of innovation, not necessarily in IPs, but in game types. This generation feels so so similar to the last one, you've got you open world action, your shooters, your rpgs etc, which is almost the same as last gen, but bigger and more refined. I feel like every new gen before that had something new to offer, like mario 64, or gta 3 for example.
Personally, I'm alright, I've bought most of these games, but I can see why a lot of people might feel like we've been playing the same games for the past 10 years.
I wouldn't be surprised if Crystal D is working on a next gen Tomb Raider, kinda how Rocksteady kept working on Arkham Knight, while WB Montreal released Origins. We could see Eidos Montreal's TR around 2018, and then Crystal D's PS5 TR around 2020.
Meh, I don't think this affects me very much. If I'm unsure about a game, I'll wait for a few reviews to be out. Whether that's on day one or day ten, I couldn't care less, I can wait. If it's something I can't wait, and I was gonna buy anyway, reviews wouldn't dissuade me anyway.
@Rudy_Manchego No problem man! There's been very little advertising about it, I luckily stumbled upon it a few days ago. That's the kind of thing Sony should be shouting about, no idea why they haven't.
Just to give people a heads up, there will be opportunities to try out psvr across the uk over the next couple weeks, if you're undecided. You can just book a place at trypsvr.com, I've booked a slot for this Saturday, see whether I keep or cancel my launch pre-order.
Thanks for the review, I'm definitely getting this now. Honestly, I just wanted them to get the action right, and to relive the story once more, cause it's been a wee while since I watched it. Sounds like it ticks both boxes, so I'm happy
Quite excited for this. I abandoned Destiny shortly after launch, but TTK dragged me back in and has kept me busy for months and months. I hope the story and missions/strikes/raid are on the same level as that was.
This has got me even more excited about the game actually. The fact he's warning against spoilers tells me there's a lot more to it than what they've shown so far, whether that's plot-wise or gameplay. And I was already sold anyway.
@get2sammyb The physical Taken King version had everything, although the disk was just Destiny. Year 1 expansions and Taken King were all codes. Which is what I suspect will happen here with everything + Rise of Iron.
The Destiny universe is fantastic, and it's one that's screaming for an EU, and I have no idea why there's nothing. I'd devour any books, comics, cartoons, anything really that expands on that world.
As far as the in game storytelling goes, I think it stumbled at first, but The Taken King was really good, and the rumour is that the same team is in charge of Destiny 2. If that's true, I'm expecting great things in the future.
All DLC bundled and full price is my prediction, kinda like Mass Effect 2 that came to PS3 a year later. We'll see, I'd obviously prefer half price, but I don't see that happening.
I know Bethesda wasn't amazing, but it wasn't nearly as bad as EA. Prey and Dishonored looked very good, the fact that id is taking back doom multiplayer, even skyrim remastered looked great. And they didn't talk about bloody football for half an hour.
Did Ubi just "leak" ps4 backwards compatibility? There's no mention of a Stick of Truth remaster, yet they said it would be free for all pre orders, which works for One and PC, but what about ps4? Anyone else have their conspiracy hat on?
Wow, just wow. I mean, Overwatch is an amazing game, as far as gameplay is concerned. But the lack of modes seems to matter a lot less when "EA" is not written on the box. As light as the content was in vanilla Battlefront, it was still more than what's here.
About a year and a half ago I was told that Rockstar North was involved in two projects. They were doing some mocap work on some "western stuff", and there was something else called either "paradox" or "paradise" or something similar sounding like that. Dunno if that's a codename, or final title for a new IP, or maybe agent?
Western stuff is most likely RDR, which is San Diego's normally, but I wouldn't put it out of the question for them to help out a bit.
@DrJoeystein excellent write up, I'm glad to see a lot of people giving this game its due. I loved the game, but I was a bit worried that most people wouldn't, that the world might have moved on and I was just stuck in the past. I'm so glad this isn't the case, and I hope that means we get a lot more shooters like this. Now then, for a true sequel to Duke Nukem 3D
I've said it before and I'll say it again, platinumed this over the weekend and it's hands down the most fun I've had in a long while. The multiplayer might be lacking a bit, but the campaign is a pure gem, shooters like this do not exist anymore, period. And I'm already seeing some incredible stuff on SnapMap, less than a week from release. A truly special game.
I'm about halfway through and I'm loving every minute. Even though I was disappointed with the MP alphas/betas, the campaign is something special. And apart from the great gameplay, the biggest surprise for me is that the level design emphasises exploration, something that all shooters have abandoned. Even the good shooters, even the great ones, rely on point a to point b progression. FPS games started with maze-like levels, that required exploration to find keys, secret rooms, and backtrack a lot until you move on to the next level. Doom brings that all back, and that makes me extremely happy. The levels I've seen so far are getting better and better.
And you should really keep an eye on SnapMap. The degree you can customise anything, from designing a level, all the way to behaviour and logic settings for enemies, game types etc is mind blowing. This is the Mario Maker of FPS games imo, and if it catches on, we'll see some incredible stuff. Worth noting is that SnapMap was the last thing John Carmack was working on before he left id, and that man's a genius.
I still think the standard MP is not that great, but SnapMap could actually fix that, people might end up creating a better MP anyway.
@get2sammyb Just curious, why did the supernatural stuff feel out of place for you? Indiana Jones, Tomb Raider and a lot of games/films of that ilk have a supernatural element to them.
Personally, I missed it as well, I would have loved undead pirates, but then again, the game was incredible regardless, so by the end I didn't care that much.
I've seen this argument a lot though, and that's perfectly fine obviously, but it always seemed a bit weird that people don't mind supernatural elements in Indy, which clearly inspired Uncharted, but complain about it in these games.
@Neurotic_Biotic Sorry, that was the PSN price I was talking about. 42 is a bit more reasonable I guess, but I still feel like we should have the option to buy the base game. It kinda feels like releasing only a collector's /premium edition of the game, and the base game being exclusive to a platform.
@AyanamiReign @Boerewors it doesn't have to be free to play. PC players can buy a $40 version, and we can only get the $60 one, with the only extra thing being a bunch of skins, which I don't really care about. Here in the UK it's even more ludicrous, £30 for the base edition on PC, £45 for the Origins edition on PC, £55 for the Origins edition on PS4. It's almost twice the price.
That's my problem, this is a £30/$40 game, and we don't even have the option to buy it at that, with no explanation why. I wish more people would point that out, it's really unfair to console players.
I was living in a different country, studying for a degree that I was slowly losing interest in and never finished. In these 10 years, I moved across Europe, got into a new course, and graduated, spent a few years in a horrible customer service job, and for the past two years I've been working in my field in an amazing environment alongside people I never dreamed I'd ever meet.
Most importantly, I met a lovely young lady, who almost exactly a year ago, became my wife.
My personal issue with an episodic release, is that by the time the next episode rolls out, I've moved on to the next thing. Just the thought of trying to remember what the story was, who is everyone and re-acclimatising myself with the control scheme, puts me off diving back in. The controls are not much of an issue with telltale style games, but with something like hitman, assassin's creed, or anything with slightly deeper systems, I just don't know if I'd bother. And that is the main reason I haven't gotten the new Hitman, even though I thought the beta was really good.
I get that not everyone is like me though, and if companies want to release games like that, I'm all for it, it doesn't affect me in the least. Most of the time though, I will wait for the full game to be released.
That's perfect if that's true, we get a change of setting and we get to keep Kratos, can't imagine GoW without him personally, and can't get enough of his angry shouting.
As to how it makes sense, it seems pretty straightforward to me. He killed all the olympians, now he's gonna kill all the Norse ones. Simples
EDIT: Also, I'm totally digging the beard if that's the new look
-Hey, you know what will be fun? -What? -If we make them attack with circle, and dodge with square! -Lolz!
Seriously though, decent enough demo, although controls feel a bit stiff, combat doesn't flow great and frame rate is a bit of a dump fest. Very intrigued with the world/setting, just hope it will get a good level of polish before final release.
@Gamer83 Different developers. North does gta, San Diego does red dead. There is some overlap, but both titles should be in development at the same time.
They need almost 2 months for manufacturing? How many copies are they making? Fallout 4 went gold 2 or 3 weeks before it hit shelves, and that was a huge release. Just seems a bit weird.
I am racing through Shinovi atm, trying to finish it before this arrives, and I underestimated how long it is! I'm at 30 odd hours and I've only just started the last "school" storyline. Really impressed though, I wanted to check it out with all the controversy etc and I'm totally addicted to the gameplay loop.
Eh, last gen I would have cared more, but I know literally no one that owns an Xbox One. As in, real life friends, everyone I'm aware of has gone for a PS4 this time round.
Heads up all, they keep coming in and out, if you're still interested, keep refreshing and trying to add to basket, I got one about five minutes ago. I imagine it's people adding to basket and not going through with it.
Hey all, can someone that used amazon confirm whether they charge you now or on dispatch? I know it's usually dispatch, but the option on their website is "buy now" instead of "pre-order", which makes me a bit suspicious.
@KratosMD Yeah, I hope so anyway! Theoretically you could simulate a cinema sized screen, and couple that with some good headphones, that does sound incredible. Let's hope that's what it will end up being.
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Re: Site News: Welcome to the New Push Square
Ooft, do I have to take my shoes off now? Well done lads, quite snazzy!
Re: Talking Point: Should Sony Move Horizon: Zero Dawn's PS4 Launch Away from the Nintendo Switch?
They've got nothing to fear. I get what you're saying about mindshare, but you might be underestimating how much mindshare Horizon already has. It has consistently been voted one of the most anticipated games from gamers since its announcement (so is Zelda, I know), but it also has the advantage of launching in a platform that has three times the user base of Nintendo's two consoles combined (rough estimates by the way, I'm assuming Wii U is around 15 mil atm, and Switch will be very lucky to sell a million at launch). If I don't own a platform, or have no plans of buying, I generally switch off on their exclusives, that's why I think Horizon will still have a lot of mindshare.
Then again, I could be utterly wrong and I will have to eat my shoe
Re: Hands On: NieR Automata Seems Like Yet Another Must Have PS4 Exclusive
Mixed feelings about this one. Loved the way it combines three different genres, and the gameplay is really good, but I'm quite disappointed from the visuals. It really looks like a PS3 game, and the colour pallette isn't doing it any favours either. Bayonetta 2 was a gorgeous game, and it was running on a Wii U. I'm hoping there will be a bit more variety in the final game.
Re: PSN Down Ahead of the Thanksgiving Holidays
What is this, 2012?
Re: Talking Point: Why Are Fall's Biggest Blockbusters Flopping?
I feel it might be the lack of innovation, not necessarily in IPs, but in game types. This generation feels so so similar to the last one, you've got you open world action, your shooters, your rpgs etc, which is almost the same as last gen, but bigger and more refined. I feel like every new gen before that had something new to offer, like mario 64, or gta 3 for example.
Personally, I'm alright, I've bought most of these games, but I can see why a lot of people might feel like we've been playing the same games for the past 10 years.
Re: Don't Even Think About Getting Saucy with the Share Button in Watch Dogs 2
Pretty sure I saw people sharing dongles from The Order 1886 without any bans. Go figure
Re: Eidos Montreal May Be Making the Next Tomb Raider Game
I wouldn't be surprised if Crystal D is working on a next gen Tomb Raider, kinda how Rocksteady kept working on Arkham Knight, while WB Montreal released Origins. We could see Eidos Montreal's TR around 2018, and then Crystal D's PS5 TR around 2020.
Re: Don't Expect Reviews of Skyrim and Dishonored 2 Before Launch on PS4
Meh, I don't think this affects me very much. If I'm unsure about a game, I'll wait for a few reviews to be out. Whether that's on day one or day ten, I couldn't care less, I can wait. If it's something I can't wait, and I was gonna buy anyway, reviews wouldn't dissuade me anyway.
Re: Feature: PlayStation VR Has the Power to Elicit Real-World Reactions
@Rudy_Manchego No problem man! There's been very little advertising about it, I luckily stumbled upon it a few days ago. That's the kind of thing Sony should be shouting about, no idea why they haven't.
Re: Feature: PlayStation VR Has the Power to Elicit Real-World Reactions
Just to give people a heads up, there will be opportunities to try out psvr across the uk over the next couple weeks, if you're undecided. You can just book a place at trypsvr.com, I've booked a slot for this Saturday, see whether I keep or cancel my launch pre-order.
Re: Review: Attack on Titan: Wings of Freedom (PS4)
Thanks for the review, I'm definitely getting this now. Honestly, I just wanted them to get the action right, and to relive the story once more, cause it's been a wee while since I watched it. Sounds like it ticks both boxes, so I'm happy
Re: Destiny: Rise of Iron Details Creep Out of the Darkness
Quite excited for this. I abandoned Destiny shortly after launch, but TTK dragged me back in and has kept me busy for months and months. I hope the story and missions/strikes/raid are on the same level as that was.
Re: No Man's Sky Maker Urges Fans to Avoid Spoilers as $1,300 Copy Leaks Online
This has got me even more excited about the game actually. The fact he's warning against spoilers tells me there's a lot more to it than what they've shown so far, whether that's plot-wise or gameplay. And I was already sold anyway.
Re: Destiny's Challenge of the Elders Won't Be the Same Starting Next Week
I thought it was already randomised lol. I doubt that will make much of a difference, or add more variety, I bet most players won't even notice.
Re: Destiny: The Collection Is Supposedly Coming to PS4 in August
@get2sammyb The physical Taken King version had everything, although the disk was just Destiny. Year 1 expansions and Taken King were all codes. Which is what I suspect will happen here with everything + Rise of Iron.
Re: Soapbox: Destiny's Grimoire Cards Are Pretty Awesome
The Destiny universe is fantastic, and it's one that's screaming for an EU, and I have no idea why there's nothing. I'd devour any books, comics, cartoons, anything really that expands on that world.
As far as the in game storytelling goes, I think it stumbled at first, but The Taken King was really good, and the rumour is that the same team is in charge of Destiny 2. If that's true, I'm expecting great things in the future.
Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider PS4's Still Holed Up in Croft Manor
All DLC bundled and full price is my prediction, kinda like Mass Effect 2 that came to PS3 a year later. We'll see, I'd obviously prefer half price, but I don't see that happening.
Re: Soapbox: Let's Be Honest, E3 2016 Was Disappointing
They could have just shown that God of War demo and nothing else during the entire E3 and I'd still be happy. STOKED
Re: E3 2016: PS4 Architect Mark Cerny Is Working on Hideo Kojima's Death Stranding
Knack 2 confirmed.
Re: Feature: All the E3 2016 Press Conferences Rated and Reviewed
I know Bethesda wasn't amazing, but it wasn't nearly as bad as EA. Prey and Dishonored looked very good, the fact that id is taking back doom multiplayer, even skyrim remastered looked great. And they didn't talk about bloody football for half an hour.
Re: Talking Point: Did Ubisoft's E3 2016 Press Conference Impress You?
Did Ubi just "leak" ps4 backwards compatibility? There's no mention of a Stick of Truth remaster, yet they said it would be free for all pre orders, which works for One and PC, but what about ps4? Anyone else have their conspiracy hat on?
Re: E3 2016: EA Offers Update on New Star Wars PS4 Titles
2018 though... That's rough, whatever's taking so long at visceral better be worth it.
Re: Round Up: Overwatch PS4 Reviews Are Ridiculously Positive
Wow, just wow. I mean, Overwatch is an amazing game, as far as gameplay is concerned. But the lack of modes seems to matter a lot less when "EA" is not written on the box. As light as the content was in vanilla Battlefront, it was still more than what's here.
Re: Rockstar Games to Reveal Exciting Future Projects Soon
About a year and a half ago I was told that Rockstar North was involved in two projects. They were doing some mocap work on some "western stuff", and there was something else called either "paradox" or "paradise" or something similar sounding like that. Dunno if that's a codename, or final title for a new IP, or maybe agent?
Western stuff is most likely RDR, which is San Diego's normally, but I wouldn't put it out of the question for them to help out a bit.
Re: Review: DOOM (PS4)
@sub12 I wouldn't object to that, loved Shadow Warrior.
Re: Review: DOOM (PS4)
@DrJoeystein excellent write up, I'm glad to see a lot of people giving this game its due. I loved the game, but I was a bit worried that most people wouldn't, that the world might have moved on and I was just stuck in the past. I'm so glad this isn't the case, and I hope that means we get a lot more shooters like this. Now then, for a true sequel to Duke Nukem 3D
Re: Mass Effect Developer May Be Branching Out with an Action Game
Is that a third game then? They're working on a Star Wars game as well as far as I know.
Re: Video: Should You Buy DOOM on PS4?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, platinumed this over the weekend and it's hands down the most fun I've had in a long while. The multiplayer might be lacking a bit, but the campaign is a pure gem, shooters like this do not exist anymore, period. And I'm already seeing some incredible stuff on SnapMap, less than a week from release. A truly special game.
Re: Hands On: Dispatching Demons in DOOM on PS4
I'm about halfway through and I'm loving every minute. Even though I was disappointed with the MP alphas/betas, the campaign is something special. And apart from the great gameplay, the biggest surprise for me is that the level design emphasises exploration, something that all shooters have abandoned. Even the good shooters, even the great ones, rely on point a to point b progression. FPS games started with maze-like levels, that required exploration to find keys, secret rooms, and backtrack a lot until you move on to the next level. Doom brings that all back, and that makes me extremely happy. The levels I've seen so far are getting better and better.
And you should really keep an eye on SnapMap. The degree you can customise anything, from designing a level, all the way to behaviour and logic settings for enemies, game types etc is mind blowing. This is the Mario Maker of FPS games imo, and if it catches on, we'll see some incredible stuff. Worth noting is that SnapMap was the last thing John Carmack was working on before he left id, and that man's a genius.
I still think the standard MP is not that great, but SnapMap could actually fix that, people might end up creating a better MP anyway.
Re: Poll: Are You Enjoying Uncharted 4 on PS4?
@get2sammyb Just curious, why did the supernatural stuff feel out of place for you? Indiana Jones, Tomb Raider and a lot of games/films of that ilk have a supernatural element to them.
Personally, I missed it as well, I would have loved undead pirates, but then again, the game was incredible regardless, so by the end I didn't care that much.
I've seen this argument a lot though, and that's perfectly fine obviously, but it always seemed a bit weird that people don't mind supernatural elements in Indy, which clearly inspired Uncharted, but complain about it in these games.
Re: Wow, the Overwatch Beta Was Stupidly Popular
@Neurotic_Biotic Sorry, that was the PSN price I was talking about. 42 is a bit more reasonable I guess, but I still feel like we should have the option to buy the base game. It kinda feels like releasing only a collector's /premium edition of the game, and the base game being exclusive to a platform.
Re: Wow, the Overwatch Beta was Stupidly Popular
@AyanamiReign @Boerewors it doesn't have to be free to play. PC players can buy a $40 version, and we can only get the $60 one, with the only extra thing being a bunch of skins, which I don't really care about. Here in the UK it's even more ludicrous, £30 for the base edition on PC, £45 for the Origins edition on PC, £55 for the Origins edition on PS4. It's almost twice the price.
That's my problem, this is a £30/$40 game, and we don't even have the option to buy it at that, with no explanation why. I wish more people would point that out, it's really unfair to console players.
Re: Want to Feel Old? Final Fantasy XV was Announced 10 Years Ago Yesterday
I was living in a different country, studying for a degree that I was slowly losing interest in and never finished. In these 10 years, I moved across Europe, got into a new course, and graduated, spent a few years in a horrible customer service job, and for the past two years I've been working in my field in an amazing environment alongside people I never dreamed I'd ever meet.
Most importantly, I met a lovely young lady, who almost exactly a year ago, became my wife.
Don't know if FFXV can live up to that
Re: Respawn Entertainment Is Making a Third-Person Star Wars Action Adventure Game
Wonder what stage that Visceral game's at. It's been a while since we heard anything.
Re: Soapbox: Why Hitman Proves More Games Should Release Episodically
Definitely a good read, and a lot of good points.
My personal issue with an episodic release, is that by the time the next episode rolls out, I've moved on to the next thing. Just the thought of trying to remember what the story was, who is everyone and re-acclimatising myself with the control scheme, puts me off diving back in. The controls are not much of an issue with telltale style games, but with something like hitman, assassin's creed, or anything with slightly deeper systems, I just don't know if I'd bother. And that is the main reason I haven't gotten the new Hitman, even though I thought the beta was really good.
I get that not everyone is like me though, and if companies want to release games like that, I'm all for it, it doesn't affect me in the least. Most of the time though, I will wait for the full game to be released.
Re: Lichdom: Battlemage Runs Like a PowerPoint Presentation on PS4
60FPS PS4K exclusive
Re: Thor-ly Not! Sources Say God of War IV Leak Is Legit
That's perfect if that's true, we get a change of setting and we get to keep Kratos, can't imagine GoW without him personally, and can't get enough of his angry shouting.
As to how it makes sense, it seems pretty straightforward to me. He killed all the olympians, now he's gonna kill all the Norse ones. Simples
EDIT: Also, I'm totally digging the beard if that's the new look
Re: Naughty Dog Will Resurrect The Last of Us 2 Prototypes Soon
As much as I'd like another last of us, I'd much prefer they do a new IP first.
Re: People Will Argue Over Uncharted 4's Ending
Sopranos style...
Re: Final Fantasy XV Platinum Demo Will Be Available For Free Tonight on PS4
-Hey, you know what will be fun?
-What?
-If we make them attack with circle, and dodge with square!
-Lolz!
Seriously though, decent enough demo, although controls feel a bit stiff, combat doesn't flow great and frame rate is a bit of a dump fest. Very intrigued with the world/setting, just hope it will get a good level of polish before final release.
Re: Is This Another Hint We May See Red Dead Redemption 2 on PS4 Soon?
@Gamer83 Different developers. North does gta, San Diego does red dead. There is some overlap, but both titles should be in development at the same time.
Re: Is This Another Hint We May See Red Dead Redemption 2 on PS4 Soon?
Let's just say I'll be very, very surprised if it doesn't get announced this year. Possibly released as well.
Re: Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Is Finally Finished on PS4
They need almost 2 months for manufacturing? How many copies are they making? Fallout 4 went gold 2 or 3 weeks before it hit shelves, and that was a huge release. Just seems a bit weird.
Re: Review: Senran Kagura Estival Versus (PS4)
I am racing through Shinovi atm, trying to finish it before this arrives, and I underestimated how long it is! I'm at 30 odd hours and I've only just started the last "school" storyline. Really impressed though, I wanted to check it out with all the controversy etc and I'm totally addicted to the gameplay loop.
Re: Will Xbox One and PS4 Gamers Play Together? Sony's Looking into It
Eh, last gen I would have cared more, but I know literally no one that owns an Xbox One. As in, real life friends, everyone I'm aware of has gone for a PS4 this time round.
Re: Pre-Order Your PlayStation VR Headset Right Now
@get2sammyb Cheers, just managed to snap one!
Heads up all, they keep coming in and out, if you're still interested, keep refreshing and trying to add to basket, I got one about five minutes ago. I imagine it's people adding to basket and not going through with it.
Re: Pre-Order Your PlayStation VR Headset Right Now
Hey all, can someone that used amazon confirm whether they charge you now or on dispatch? I know it's usually dispatch, but the option on their website is "buy now" instead of "pre-order", which makes me a bit suspicious.
Re: PlayStation VR Launches in October for $399
@KratosMD Yeah, I hope so anyway! Theoretically you could simulate a cinema sized screen, and couple that with some good headphones, that does sound incredible. Let's hope that's what it will end up being.
Re: PlayStation VR Launches in October for $399
@get2sammyb It's Summer Lesson, isn't it?
Re: PlayStation VR Launches in October for $399
@KratosMD From what I've seen so far (not a lot mind you) it seems it's a display mode, so all games and video etc.