I feel for Capcom, and for people who didn't want to be spoiled but were anyway because it was all over the place. Personally I don't mind that much knowing the full roster in advance, I actively searched for the leak when I heard it was out there.
That being said, I think what's been leaked looks sick as hell. Love the design, the choices, the number of fighters (if this is base roster). I think it's done more good than bad, luckily.
Yeah, don't mind that being there. IMO the new control scheme will have you at a disadvantage at even low-to-mid level play (3 less normals, basic combos), but hopefully as you mention, it works as a gateway for folk. If you've not played before and get a taste because of the easier controls, and then you want to delve more seriously into it, it still brings new people in. Everybody wins.
Much to my disappointment, I find it very hard to believe that Sony cares at all about Killzone. Especially since they've not put a single Killzone title up on the new PS Plus tiers, can't see any legal issues with that considering they're first party.
I'd love a Tomb Raider classics collection. Don't think I'd want a remaster/remake treatment, I'd prefer something along the mega Man collections, just authentic as possible ports, with things like rewind features, museum galleries etc.
5 mil copies in 3 months, almost a decade from release is a staggering stat. GTA6 better be damn near flawless with all that money they're piling up. At the very least they can fix their controls (you'd hope!)
I still prefer the DS4, that's probably my favourite of all time. It's just a much better fit for my hands, I find the DualSense a bit too big and weirdly shaped. Can't believe they had the DualShock 2 and not the 4 on the vote though, that seems weird.
@PenguinL Huh, nice one! Might have a look, I've not paid any attention to it cause I was sure it was an MMO, I could swear that was the case at some point, maybe they changed it. Or maybe I just dreamt it 😂
@PapaGlitch Nah, that's a fair question to ask tbh. Can't say I know too much about the in game economies of Dreams or LBP, but I don't believe you can cash out, or monetise your creations in those games. Roblox is marketed directly at children, and makes a point of "you can make money" from this. You can directly sell your creations and Roblox earns a very significant chunk of it at every step of the process
That's not to say I agree completely with the games you brought up, there's issues there for sure in the grand scheme of things, although maybe a bit more indirectly? All that Dreams can do is sell more copies of the game, and yes, if there's a big community making creations in it, that collectively helps them, but it doesn't incentivise work for profit I guess? Definitely worth a discussion though.
@lolwhatno There's a lot to it, so I'd recommend either watching those docs or reading up on it. The gist of it is it doesn't happen directly on the platform, kids are recruited externally through Discord groups etc, so Roblox washes its hands off. There's multiple issues with that, recruiters profit directly from that and since nothing is official (contracts etc), they can be let go after months of work with nothing to show.
That's just one aspect of it, but it has other repercussions, The way creators and the in game economy works (basically scrip), means Roblox makes huge profits from every transaction, so while they say they provide a safe environment, they stop just short of enforcing anything of significance since it will hurt their pocket in the end.
Definitely worth looking into at the very least, there's a lot more to it, and I'm not as eloquent as actual journalists that have covered the subject!
@lolwhatno There's some pretty shady stuff around Roblox, was quite happy it was being kept away from PS platforms so far. People Make Games have done 2 excellent videos on the subject, and there's various articles covering the same points if you dig a little bit. Unfortunately it's something that's often overlooked
That doesn't surprise me in the slightest, JoJo has been literally exploding in popularity in the past few years. Also explains why they'd remaster this, don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a bad game at all, but not exactly one people have been screaming about to revive (hello MvC2).
I'm almost there, think I've only got 1 main quest left (or it certainly feels that way!). I'm about 55 hours in, so I really hope it wraps up soon 😂
@get2sammyb Is that confirmed about the Online, that if you claim it in the first three months you own it afterwards? I always assumed when they said "free for 3 months" that it's just that, free for three months and you'll need to buy it after that, kinda like those free weekends they do for some games but extended.
I'd be more surprised if there is an upgrade path than if there isn't. They did the same thing from PS3 to PS4. It's probably gonna top the charts regardless for a few more years, so they'll milk that all they can.
@get2sammyb I wouldn't go that far, the last two games they did were Nier: Automata and Astral Chain, both outstanding games in my opinion. They've misstepped in the past, I'm sure once Bayo 3 comes out we'll forget Babylon's Fall ever existed.
Will probably be on Horizon for a while, but planning to tackle this next. Although all the performance reviews might make me hold off a bit longer, either for a patch, or a decent mod on PC.
@KilloWertz Yeah, 100% loving the game. As bad as that shimerring issue is, and a lot of jankiness tbh, it doesn't take away from how good the game is. Even the 30fps mode, which I struggle sometimes with in other games, is rock solid and well handled in terms of motion blur and effects to make it less jarring.
@KilloWertz It's terrible, isn't it? I never, ever sacrifice framerates for resolution, but found that incredibly distracting, so playing on resolution mode until that's fixed.
Here's hoping, I played one of those betas, and boy did I bounce out. Combat felt awful, which was the one thing I expected to be good, but the usual Platinum fluidity was not there at all, everything felt so stiff. Might give it one last chance, but tbh there's not much in there anyway that catches my eye apart from the PlatinumGames logo.
If true, it's the best AC news in years for me. After AC Valhalla, I considered giving up on the series, as much as I enjoyed it, there was so much bloat. I paid for the season pass as well and didn't have any energy to dive back in.
Definitely up for a more streamlined experience, I loved it when you'd get one every year, spend 20 hours to finish it, another 5-10 to platinum it, and then move on with your life.
Sneakiest bit about Sony is that you can't buy the PS4 version from the Store on a PS5, you can only get it from the web/mobile store, or from a PS4. It was available before they announced the free upgrade, but then "magically disappeared"
Like, they had a first party studio doing that stuff, before Destiny and the likes took off (Sony Online Entertainment), and DC Universe Online didn't set the world on fire, but it was alright, and it's still going!
And what did they do? Sold off the company and cut all ties.
I wish them the best, but let's see where this goes.
This is not a new feature, right? I remember some PS4 games than asked you if you wanted to install single player or multiplayer first. Not exactly the same, but sounds like a similar feature.
I don't think it's all doom and gloom for Sony, imo Sony usually is at its best when being threatened and tends to rest on its laurels when it's on top. We've talked a lot about how distant they've been from their player base in the past few years compared to late PS3/early PS4 years (and that was when trying to catch up to the 360's success).
I think feeling the pressure will be good for them in the long run, hope we see new, original IPs from them, and who knows, maybe revivals of a few old ones.
If Sony is on the lookout to buy someone, they should look at smarter and more affordable options. Capcom and Squenix make a lot more sense for example, not only are they far cheaper than the likes of Acti and EA, but their output also feels more at home with PlayStation.
@get2sammyb It's more like, what else can they do? If it's either they allow it on, get a cut off game pass on their platform, and allowed to sell the games piecemeal for those not wanting game pass, or the alternative of not having any of these games on their platform at all? Not an easy place to be, but at least the first option they get a small piece of a big pie?
I mentioned this in the other thread as well, but I think that only happens if Sony allows Game Pass on PlayStation. And I bet that's what Microsoft's play is here (not just with Sony, Nintendo as well probably).
I honestly think the long term plan is Game Pass to be available everywhere, PlayStation, Nintedo, toasters etc. I think that's them brute forcing their way in.
If that's the only way Sony is able to get COD on their platform, along with Diablo, Elder Scrolls etc at some point they'll give in. And they'll let them sell them individually as well, they'll give the platform holders cuts from subs, but the hard line will be "Game Pass needs to be there". Just my thoughts.
@get2sammyb it's all on the pricing on how they navigate this, isn't it? Currently you can get GP Ultimate for about £100-120 a year, depending on deals. If Spartacus is, say, closer to £60 a year, and includes Plus, a decent and expanding library of PS1-3 games, plus older PS4-5 games, but not Day 1 releases, I think it will be fine.
If they get closer to that £100-120 pricepoint, and on the other side of the fence that price gets you Day 1 exclusives, EA Play, PC games etc, comparisons will be inevitable, and yeah, way more tricky to navigate.
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Re: Massive Street Fighter 6 Leaks Acknowledged by Capcom
I feel for Capcom, and for people who didn't want to be spoiled but were anyway because it was all over the place. Personally I don't mind that much knowing the full roster in advance, I actively searched for the leak when I heard it was out there.
That being said, I think what's been leaked looks sick as hell. Love the design, the choices, the number of fighters (if this is base roster). I think it's done more good than bad, luckily.
Re: Street Fighter 6 PS5, PS4 Introduces More Accessible Controls for Newcomers
Yeah, don't mind that being there. IMO the new control scheme will have you at a disadvantage at even low-to-mid level play (3 less normals, basic combos), but hopefully as you mention, it works as a gateway for folk. If you've not played before and get a taste because of the easier controls, and then you want to delve more seriously into it, it still brings new people in. Everybody wins.
Re: Rumour: Killzone VR Was in Development, Could Have Switched to PSVR2
Much to my disappointment, I find it very hard to believe that Sony cares at all about Killzone. Especially since they've not put a single Killzone title up on the new PS Plus tiers, can't see any legal issues with that considering they're first party.
Re: Tomb Raider, Deus Ex Remakes and Remasters Could Come to PS5, PS4
I'd love a Tomb Raider classics collection. Don't think I'd want a remaster/remake treatment, I'd prefer something along the mega Man collections, just authentic as possible ports, with things like rewind features, museum galleries etc.
Re: GTA 5 on PS5 Sells Even Better Than Expected
5 mil copies in 3 months, almost a decade from release is a staggering stat. GTA6 better be damn near flawless with all that money they're piling up. At the very least they can fix their controls (you'd hope!)
Re: Best FPS Games on PS5
You all are aware Quake is on PS5, right?
Re: PS3 Emulation Allegedly in Production for PS5
I only want to see this happen to see the reaction of all those that are banging on about architecture nonsense excuses.
Re: PS5's DualSense Dubbed the Best Controller of All Time in Public Vote
I still prefer the DS4, that's probably my favourite of all time. It's just a much better fit for my hands, I find the DualSense a bit too big and weirdly shaped. Can't believe they had the DualShock 2 and not the 4 on the vote though, that seems weird.
Re: New PS5 Firmware Update Available Now, Overhauls Parties, Lets You Pin Games, Much More
@Bu1ld0g Pretty much lol I wanna say PS4 took 3-4 years off the top of my head, but we're splitting hairs here, equally as ridiculous regardless
Re: New PS5 Firmware Update Available Now, Overhauls Parties, Lets You Pin Games, Much More
@thefourfoldroot Yes, half a decade later 😂
Re: Sony Acquires Haven Studios, the New Developer Led By Jade Raymond
Sony doubling down on live service games after Gran Turismo's stellar reception.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy Will Be Free of Microtransactions
@PenguinL Huh, nice one! Might have a look, I've not paid any attention to it cause I was sure it was an MMO, I could swear that was the case at some point, maybe they changed it. Or maybe I just dreamt it 😂
Re: Hogwarts Legacy Will Be Free of Microtransactions
@PenguinL Is it single-player? I always thought this was an MMO.
Re: Roblox Job Listing Suggests It's Finally Coming to PlayStation
@Martsmall yup, exactly, whoooooole other can of worms there.
Re: Roblox Job Listing Suggests It's Finally Coming to PlayStation
@PapaGlitch Nah, that's a fair question to ask tbh. Can't say I know too much about the in game economies of Dreams or LBP, but I don't believe you can cash out, or monetise your creations in those games. Roblox is marketed directly at children, and makes a point of "you can make money" from this. You can directly sell your creations and Roblox earns a very significant chunk of it at every step of the process
That's not to say I agree completely with the games you brought up, there's issues there for sure in the grand scheme of things, although maybe a bit more indirectly? All that Dreams can do is sell more copies of the game, and yes, if there's a big community making creations in it, that collectively helps them, but it doesn't incentivise work for profit I guess? Definitely worth a discussion though.
Re: Roblox Job Listing Suggests It's Finally Coming to PlayStation
@lolwhatno There's a lot to it, so I'd recommend either watching those docs or reading up on it. The gist of it is it doesn't happen directly on the platform, kids are recruited externally through Discord groups etc, so Roblox washes its hands off. There's multiple issues with that, recruiters profit directly from that and since nothing is official (contracts etc), they can be let go after months of work with nothing to show.
That's just one aspect of it, but it has other repercussions, The way creators and the in game economy works (basically scrip), means Roblox makes huge profits from every transaction, so while they say they provide a safe environment, they stop just short of enforcing anything of significance since it will hurt their pocket in the end.
Definitely worth looking into at the very least, there's a lot more to it, and I'm not as eloquent as actual journalists that have covered the subject!
Re: Roblox Job Listing Suggests It's Finally Coming to PlayStation
@lolwhatno There's some pretty shady stuff around Roblox, was quite happy it was being kept away from PS platforms so far. People Make Games have done 2 excellent videos on the subject, and there's various articles covering the same points if you dig a little bit. Unfortunately it's something that's often overlooked
Re: Roblox Job Listing Suggests It's Finally Coming to PlayStation
Hurray for child labour I guess...
Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure the Big Winner from Sony's State of Play
That doesn't surprise me in the slightest, JoJo has been literally exploding in popularity in the past few years. Also explains why they'd remaster this, don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a bad game at all, but not exactly one people have been screaming about to revive (hello MvC2).
Re: TMNT: The Cowabunga Collection Is Too Rad for PS5, PS4
I can't not buy this. Turtles 2 on the GameBoy was the very first videogame I ever owned (along with Double Dragon 2).
Re: 13 Per Cent of Horizon Forbidden West Players Have Finished the Story on PS5, PS4
I'm almost there, think I've only got 1 main quest left (or it certainly feels that way!). I'm about 55 hours in, so I really hope it wraps up soon 😂
Re: Latest PS5 Firmware Update Is Available to Download Now
Try stability, but hole.
Re: GTA 5 PS5 Price Is Looking Surprisingly Generous
@get2sammyb Nice, thanks! I actually didn't expect that, or not been paying enough attention.
Re: GTA 5 PS5 Price Is Looking Surprisingly Generous
@get2sammyb Is that confirmed about the Online, that if you claim it in the first three months you own it afterwards? I always assumed when they said "free for 3 months" that it's just that, free for three months and you'll need to buy it after that, kinda like those free weekends they do for some games but extended.
Re: Is GTA 5 on PS5 a Free Upgrade for PS4 Players? Probably Not
I'd be more surprised if there is an upgrade path than if there isn't. They did the same thing from PS3 to PS4. It's probably gonna top the charts regardless for a few more years, so they'll milk that all they can.
Re: PS5, PS4 Live Service Game Babylon's Fall Doesn't Look Good
@get2sammyb I wouldn't go that far, the last two games they did were Nier: Automata and Astral Chain, both outstanding games in my opinion. They've misstepped in the past, I'm sure once Bayo 3 comes out we'll forget Babylon's Fall ever existed.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy Elden Ring?
Will probably be on Horizon for a while, but planning to tackle this next. Although all the performance reviews might make me hold off a bit longer, either for a patch, or a decent mod on PC.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Takes the Most Trophies at DICE Awards 2022
@BRT15 Wow... just wow, I would not have noticed that if you hadn't pointed it out, that is awful!
Re: Playing Elden Ring's PS4 Version on PS5 Might Be Your Best Bet for a Stable Frame-Rate
Man, I was holding off for DF to see if I should get this on PS5 or PC. Looks like it's ass everywhere lol
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Update 1.05 Released, Here Are the Patch Notes
@KilloWertz Yeah, 100% loving the game. As bad as that shimerring issue is, and a lot of jankiness tbh, it doesn't take away from how good the game is. Even the 30fps mode, which I struggle sometimes with in other games, is rock solid and well handled in terms of motion blur and effects to make it less jarring.
Re: Sony Expanding Support for PS5 Screenshots, Videos on PS App
@Reeneman VRR?! Settle down pal, it took them almost 3 years to add folders last generation, I think we'll be lucky to get VRR by 2027 😂
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Update 1.05 Released, Here Are the Patch Notes
@KilloWertz It's terrible, isn't it? I never, ever sacrifice framerates for resolution, but found that incredibly distracting, so playing on resolution mode until that's fixed.
Re: Everyone's Trying to Guess What PS5, PS4 Games Shuhei Yoshida's Been Playing
Bluepoint's Bloodborne 2 😉
Re: Babylon's Fall Demo Makes or Breaks on PS5, PS4 Later This Month
Here's hoping, I played one of those betas, and boy did I bounce out. Combat felt awful, which was the one thing I expected to be good, but the usual Platinum fluidity was not there at all, everything felt so stiff. Might give it one last chance, but tbh there's not much in there anyway that catches my eye apart from the PlatinumGames logo.
Re: Rumour: New, Smaller Assassin's Creed Game Will Focus on Stealth in Late 2022 or 2023
If true, it's the best AC news in years for me. After AC Valhalla, I considered giving up on the series, as much as I enjoyed it, there was so much bloat. I paid for the season pass as well and didn't have any energy to dive back in.
Definitely up for a more streamlined experience, I loved it when you'd get one every year, spend 20 hours to finish it, another 5-10 to platinum it, and then move on with your life.
Re: Remember to Buy Horizon Forbidden West on PS4, And Not PS5
Sneakiest bit about Sony is that you can't buy the PS4 version from the Store on a PS5, you can only get it from the web/mobile store, or from a PS4. It was available before they announced the free upgrade, but then "magically disappeared"
Re: Soapbox: Sony Is Making More Live Service Games for PS5, PS4, And I'm Excited
Yeah, their track record is not great with GaaS.
Like, they had a first party studio doing that stuff, before Destiny and the likes took off (Sony Online Entertainment), and DC Universe Online didn't set the world on fire, but it was alright, and it's still going!
And what did they do? Sold off the company and cut all ties.
I wish them the best, but let's see where this goes.
Re: Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves PS5 Download Lets You Pick Which Game You Want to Play First
This is not a new feature, right? I remember some PS4 games than asked you if you wanted to install single player or multiplayer first. Not exactly the same, but sounds like a similar feature.
Re: Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection's PS5 Trophies Are a Complete Bust
WHYYYYYYY??? Why is this a thing?!?! Why is it not just PS5 versions of each game? Honestly, how hard is this omg 😂ðŸ˜ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜
Re: Poll: Does Sony Need to Take Action After Microsoft's Activision Buyout?
I don't think it's all doom and gloom for Sony, imo Sony usually is at its best when being threatened and tends to rest on its laurels when it's on top. We've talked a lot about how distant they've been from their player base in the past few years compared to late PS3/early PS4 years (and that was when trying to catch up to the 360's success).
I think feeling the pressure will be good for them in the long run, hope we see new, original IPs from them, and who knows, maybe revivals of a few old ones.
Re: PlayStation Wrap-Up 2021 Available Now, Share Your Gaming Stats
725 Hours, 39% PS5/61% PS4, 100 Games, 884 Trophies (9 Plats).
1. Tales of Arise - 90 HOURS
2. NieR Replicant - 53 HOURS
3. Guilty Gear -Strive- - 38 HOURS
4. 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim - 37 HOURS
5. Marvel's Spider-Man - 33 HOURS
Wow, lot more than I thought, didn't think I gamed much this year lol
Re: EA Is the Next Major Publisher Tipped for a Takeover
If Sony is on the lookout to buy someone, they should look at smarter and more affordable options. Capcom and Squenix make a lot more sense for example, not only are they far cheaper than the likes of Acti and EA, but their output also feels more at home with PlayStation.
Re: Dying Light 2 Has Found More Really Big Numbers to Boast About
Man, they more they say about this game, the more they put me off it. Hope folk enjoy it, but not for me.
Re: Cult PS4 Sequel Gravity Rush 2 Celebrates Its Fifth Birthday Today
Such a fantastic series. Now you reminded me Japan studio was shut down, what a shame. Some of the best and most unique exclusives came out of there.
Re: Will Call of Duty and Other Activision Blizzard Games Come to PS5, PS4?
@get2sammyb It's more like, what else can they do? If it's either they allow it on, get a cut off game pass on their platform, and allowed to sell the games piecemeal for those not wanting game pass, or the alternative of not having any of these games on their platform at all? Not an easy place to be, but at least the first option they get a small piece of a big pie?
Re: Will Call of Duty and Other Activision Blizzard Games Come to PS5, PS4?
I mentioned this in the other thread as well, but I think that only happens if Sony allows Game Pass on PlayStation. And I bet that's what Microsoft's play is here (not just with Sony, Nintendo as well probably).
Re: Microsoft Buys Call of Duty Publisher Activision Blizzard
I honestly think the long term plan is Game Pass to be available everywhere, PlayStation, Nintedo, toasters etc. I think that's them brute forcing their way in.
If that's the only way Sony is able to get COD on their platform, along with Diablo, Elder Scrolls etc at some point they'll give in. And they'll let them sell them individually as well, they'll give the platform holders cuts from subs, but the hard line will be "Game Pass needs to be there". Just my thoughts.
Re: Microsoft Buys Call of Duty Publisher Activision Blizzard
Jeez. I'd bet money on Game Pass coming to PlayStation by next year, or at least getting announced.
Re: Xbox Boss Reacts to PS Plus, PS Now Rumours, Says It's the 'Right Answer'
@get2sammyb it's all on the pricing on how they navigate this, isn't it? Currently you can get GP Ultimate for about £100-120 a year, depending on deals. If Spartacus is, say, closer to £60 a year, and includes Plus, a decent and expanding library of PS1-3 games, plus older PS4-5 games, but not Day 1 releases, I think it will be fine.
If they get closer to that £100-120 pricepoint, and on the other side of the fence that price gets you Day 1 exclusives, EA Play, PC games etc, comparisons will be inevitable, and yeah, way more tricky to navigate.
Re: Random: We Thought This T-Rex Made in Dreams Was a Shot from Jurassic Park
@lolwhatno Dreams would do fantastic on PC, don't think there's a better suited IP in Sony's portfolio for a PC port.