@pepsilover2008 If you already own them digitally it makes zero difference - not like you won't still be able to play them. Poor effort. Discs are on the way out, like it or not 😀
Hopefully it's better than the last day one to plus game, Stray. Despite the review hype for it and loving cats, I played for an hour before letting out a big 'meh', dropping it and never wanting to return.
So we might get a buggy version on console late 2024 if we're 'lucky' and then of course a myriad of DLC to follow. Doesn't look all that interesting anyway.
@KaijuKaiser I don't think making valid complaints about an enhanced edition of an old game being released in an unacceptable state in any way equates to 'hating gaming.'
More the opposite - people here are the ones who love gaming enough to engage in discussions about it rather than just buying FIFA and COD every year.
If no-one complained about anything, nothing would ever change. That applies to gaming and pretty much everything else in life.
@JamieO Memories! I had a Guncon back in the day. Was a magical experience - the precision was astonishing.
Sometimes technological progress (in this case the demise of CRT televisions in favour of LCD and OLED) is not a good thing. Feel sorry for those who will never experience a good light gun game.
I remember when people derided flat screens in favour of the amazing-until-they-very-quickly-weren't flops that were 3D TV's and the even worse curved TV's. I bet a lot of the VR crowd were rocking those marvellous innovations of technology back in the day. 'you have a FLAT tv? reaaallllyyy? poor you lol come to mine and put these silly goggles on and watch a 3d movie, it's the future don't you know...' It would be a spoiler to tell the ending to that story.
Somehow I don't think 'pancake' gaming is going to become toilet paper anywhere near as quickly as VR will.
Blimey, I'm nowhere near getting through (or even started) on a lot of the quality stuff from the past few months. I just know some will be removed before I get to enjoy them. Welcome to the first world problem of subscription gaming I suppose.
@thefourfoldroot1 I use psprices too. I used to use one called psdeals.net which has a few more filters and looks flashier, but it sometimes missed out games I was interested in which was very annoying. Never had a problem with psprices, and it has deals for all regions which suits me well for my Turkey account.
Not the same as with PS4 generation - the Pro model then was to do with cashing in on the tipping point of 4K TVs going mainstream. As others have said, not sure exactly what problem a PS5 Pro would solve.
I'm perfectly happy with the PS5 - a lot of my time is on back compat stuff anyway, where I'm benefitting from much faster loads and (on most of them) performance patches.
A refreshed PS5 with a detachable drive makes sense for consumers and Sony though, can see that one coming this year or next year.
Not bothered about a PS5 Pro, or even a PS6, for many many years.
How have I never heard of this?! Need to look into it more, but thanks for bringing it to my attention - with a few patches and a sale I suspect I'll be buying it.
I kind of wish the playtime figure wasn't present on the main screen, or at least with no apparent way to turn it off.
I know it's always been available via the options on your profile, but I'd prefer not to be reminded every single time now of just how many hours I've put into some of these games!
Big positive for me is that as someone who doesn't have to mess about with discs (Digital Console) and who keeps their console out of sight behind the TV, not now having to plug in the dualsense for updates is a handy QoL win.
With the obvious struggle the devs are having here, and MS not even being able to release some games at all because of the crappy Series S not being able to run some Series X stuff, it could mean that last gen is FINALLY coming to an end.
@get2sammyb @Robocod Pinball Arcade just feels 'right' on a lot of its tables. It's such a shame they lost a lot of the best tables when it was at its height. The challenges are fun too.
I still love the old Pinball Arcade by Farsight Studios. Might not be 4K, but very playable and very customisable too.
I accumulated a massive collection of tables for that, including all the Williams tables before they had to delete them for sale when they lost the license to this company. Always count myself very fortunate when I fire up absolute classics like Arabian Nights or Medieval Madness.
@Thumper yeah the dlc was nothing special. and once you've gone through the main game it's long enough and where the story finishes is the right point.
I bought and enjoyed Outer Worlds and the DLC in some deep sale or other, but it was couple years ago and f*** if I'm going to pay again for a remaster. I found it pretty much a one and done game anyway, despite the illusion of choice stuff with the dialogue.
It's even more insulting for them to try and make out like it's some kind of bargain for existing owners with this 'reduced price' crap.
I'm an amused bystander because I have zero interest in buying VR equipment of any kind, but the comments from some owners on here are a joke.
"Because I don't have a problem, there is no problem. It doesn't exist. Should have gone to spec savers." etc etc
It's like saying motion sickness with VR isn't a real problem just because YOU don't have it. Or there are no problems with positioning the headset just because you as an individual don't have problems. You can't extrapolate from your single use case to the entire set, in this or any other scenario. There's an entire world out there, you know?!
If you love VR and don't have any issues with the software or the hardware, fine. But don't try and pretend there are zero (widely reported) issues with it as a product because of that. That would be really really stupid.
Only decent part was the early reveal of some of the upcoming Extra games. Now those games look good, but as the highlight for a State of Play it's not good.
Having to jump through all these hoops to try and reduce a feeling of nausea from something that's supposed to be enjoyable?
I have my own foolproof method of avoiding VR motion sickness....I simply don't put on a VR headset in the first place. Can't remember the last time I got motion sickness from sitting in a comfy armchair with a controller and a cuppa.
Sickness from VR was one of the worst experiences I'd had for years...was like a bad hangover on top of a bad hangover, and it lasted for bloody hours.
I'm just relieved I don't ever have to endure it again!
I'm mildly interested in F1 22, but with Mass Effect LE now on PS+ essential, and the plethora of quality stuff on Extra, there's zero chance I'll sub to EA Play.
For the first time with one of these updates, there's so much good stuff I really don't know what I'm going to play first. 'Spoilt for choice' has never been so apt.
edit It's going to be Ace Combat 7, just because I've nearly bought it so many times over the years.
@Toypop Nearly as bad as the ones who bought it day one and pretend they're glad because they don't have to put the disc in anymore now when they want to play it 🤣🤣
@Th3solution same! The Quarry, Scarlet Nexus - interested in both, wouldn't have purchased. Ace Combat nearly bought loads of times. Haven't played HFW - got bored during HZD, but I'll take it for free any day of the week.
It's a tricky balance though. I can't stand the flow of a game being broken by obtuse puzzles when all you want to do is get on with the action and the story.
Having to play a game with a guide webpage open to solve often unintuitive 'puzzles' annoys me even more than the reverse scenario talked about here.
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Re: Final Fantasy 16 Dev Team Fields Fans' Snarkiest Questions in PAX East Panel
@GrimReaper enjoy that indefinite wait
Re: PS5, PS4 Arcade Racer LEGO 2K Drive Sounds Superb, And It's Out Soon
Pay top price for the base game but fork out again and again for the decent stuff?
Nah you're alright, I'll pass thanks.
Re: Spy This Launch Trailer as Deceive Inc Sneaks onto PS5 Today
Original Spy vs Spy did it better almost 40 years ago.
Re: A Bunch of EA Classics Are Getting Delisted from PS Store
@pepsilover2008 If you already own them digitally it makes zero difference - not like you won't still be able to play them. Poor effort. Discs are on the way out, like it or not 😀
Re: 17 More PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Available Now on PS5, PS4
Crazy good month
Re: Tchia (PS5) - Unique Island Adventure Is a Joyful, Creative Playground
Hopefully it's better than the last day one to plus game, Stray. Despite the review hype for it and loving cats, I played for an hour before letting out a big 'meh', dropping it and never wanting to return.
I'll give this a fair shot though anyway
Re: The Sims Veteran's Life by You Is a Living, Breathing Sandbox
So we might get a buggy version on console late 2024 if we're 'lucky' and then of course a myriad of DLC to follow. Doesn't look all that interesting anyway.
Re: PlayStation Studios: All Sony First-Party Developers and What They're Working On
Reading through this, you can see the problems MS have got, with or without Gamepass.
Re: Post-Apocalyptic Aussie CRPG Broken Roads Gets Gameplay Overview
Looks decent.
Re: The Outer Worlds' Rough PS5 Port Gets First Post-Launch Performance Patch
@KaijuKaiser I don't think making valid complaints about an enhanced edition of an old game being released in an unacceptable state in any way equates to 'hating gaming.'
More the opposite - people here are the ones who love gaming enough to engage in discussions about it rather than just buying FIFA and COD every year.
If no-one complained about anything, nothing would ever change. That applies to gaming and pretty much everything else in life.
Re: Ridge Racer Type 4 (PS1) - The Pinnacle of PS1 Ridge Racer Games
@JamieO Memories! I had a Guncon back in the day. Was a magical experience - the precision was astonishing.
Sometimes technological progress (in this case the demise of CRT televisions in favour of LCD and OLED) is not a good thing. Feel sorry for those who will never experience a good light gun game.
Re: The Dark Pictures: Switchback VR (PSVR2) - Lousy Rails Shooter Is a Supermassive Shame
I remember when people derided flat screens in favour of the amazing-until-they-very-quickly-weren't flops that were 3D TV's and the even worse curved TV's. I bet a lot of the VR crowd were rocking those marvellous innovations of technology back in the day. 'you have a FLAT tv? reaaallllyyy? poor you lol come to mine and put these silly goggles on and watch a 3d movie, it's the future don't you know...' It would be a spoiler to tell the ending to that story.
Somehow I don't think 'pancake' gaming is going to become toilet paper anywhere near as quickly as VR will.
Re: FPS Far Cry 5 Upgraded to 60fps with PS5 Patch
@Flaming_Kaiser they always give me a chuckle - fairly obvious compensatory actions for other....issues...in their lives.
Re: 17 New PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Revealed in Another Huge Update
Blimey, I'm nowhere near getting through (or even started) on a lot of the quality stuff from the past few months. I just know some will be removed before I get to enjoy them. Welcome to the first world problem of subscription gaming I suppose.
Great month though.
Re: PS Store Essential Picks Sale Offers Discounts on Thousands of PS5, PS4 Games
@thefourfoldroot1 I use psprices too. I used to use one called psdeals.net which has a few more filters and looks flashier, but it sometimes missed out games I was interested in which was very annoying. Never had a problem with psprices, and it has deals for all regions which suits me well for my Turkey account.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Game for April Revealed Early
Hard pass.
Next!
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Targeting Potential 2024 Release
Not the same as with PS4 generation - the Pro model then was to do with cashing in on the tipping point of 4K TVs going mainstream. As others have said, not sure exactly what problem a PS5 Pro would solve.
I'm perfectly happy with the PS5 - a lot of my time is on back compat stuff anyway, where I'm benefitting from much faster loads and (on most of them) performance patches.
A refreshed PS5 with a detachable drive makes sense for consumers and Sony though, can see that one coming this year or next year.
Not bothered about a PS5 Pro, or even a PS6, for many many years.
Re: Mini Review: No Man's Sky (PSVR2) - Explore an Infinite Universe on a Whole New Scale
Looks worse than base PS4.
Re: The State of The Outer Worlds on PS5 Has Players Calling for Refunds
Sucks for those who spent money on this trash.
Re: PS5 Sales Just Aren't Stopping in Japan as Sony's Console Is Still King
@ChrisDeku Yep. And if you never use discs anyway, then digital edition is 100% the cheaper choice!
Re: Transport Fever 2 (PS5) - Impressively Detailed Transport Sim Hits a Few Potholes
How have I never heard of this?! Need to look into it more, but thanks for bringing it to my attention - with a few patches and a sale I suspect I'll be buying it.
Re: Skywalker Saga-Style LEGO Harry Potter Reportedly En Route
@StrawberryWave The whole thing is much too amusing to do that. 😀
Re: Skywalker Saga-Style LEGO Harry Potter Reportedly En Route
Get ready for another (failed) boycott!
Re: Huge PS5 Firmware Adds Discord Voice Chat, VRR at 1440p, Much More
I kind of wish the playtime figure wasn't present on the main screen, or at least with no apparent way to turn it off.
I know it's always been available via the options on your profile, but I'd prefer not to be reminded every single time now of just how many hours I've put into some of these games!
Big positive for me is that as someone who doesn't have to mess about with discs (Digital Console) and who keeps their console out of sight behind the TV, not now having to plug in the dualsense for updates is a handy QoL win.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for March 2023 Available to Download Now
Will probably play Minecraft Dungeons for an hour or so but that's about it from this selection.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy PS4 Version Delayed to May 2023
With the obvious struggle the devs are having here, and MS not even being able to release some games at all because of the crappy Series S not being able to run some Series X stuff, it could mean that last gen is FINALLY coming to an end.
Thank F for that.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for March 2023?
@SilverShamrock Very good comment. Stupid amount of entitlement from some when it comes to Plus.
Re: First-Person Fortnite Could Be Coming to PS5, PS4 Next Season
Fortnite? Yawn. Was gonna say it's so last year, but even that would be generous.
Re: Pinball FX (PS5) - Messy Monetisation Overshadows Enormous Pinball Package
@get2sammyb @Robocod Pinball Arcade just feels 'right' on a lot of its tables. It's such a shame they lost a lot of the best tables when it was at its height. The challenges are fun too.
Re: Pinball FX (PS5) - Messy Monetisation Overshadows Enormous Pinball Package
I still love the old Pinball Arcade by Farsight Studios. Might not be 4K, but very playable and very customisable too.
I accumulated a massive collection of tables for that, including all the Williams tables before they had to delete them for sale when they lost the license to this company. Always count myself very fortunate when I fire up absolute classics like Arabian Nights or Medieval Madness.
Re: The Outer Worlds Remaster Coming to PS5 Next Week with Various Improvements, DualSense Support
Apparently its £5 to upgrade if you have the DLC and £7.99 if you just own the base game.
Re: The Outer Worlds Remaster Coming to PS5 Next Week with Various Improvements, DualSense Support
@Thumper yeah the dlc was nothing special. and once you've gone through the main game it's long enough and where the story finishes is the right point.
Re: The Outer Worlds Remaster Coming to PS5 Next Week with Various Improvements, DualSense Support
I bought and enjoyed Outer Worlds and the DLC in some deep sale or other, but it was couple years ago and f*** if I'm going to pay again for a remaster. I found it pretty much a one and done game anyway, despite the illusion of choice stuff with the dialogue.
It's even more insulting for them to try and make out like it's some kind of bargain for existing owners with this 'reduced price' crap.
Re: PSVR2 Early Adopters Are Struggling to Find the Sweet Spot
I'm an amused bystander because I have zero interest in buying VR equipment of any kind, but the comments from some owners on here are a joke.
"Because I don't have a problem, there is no problem. It doesn't exist. Should have gone to spec savers." etc etc
It's like saying motion sickness with VR isn't a real problem just because YOU don't have it. Or there are no problems with positioning the headset just because you as an individual don't have problems. You can't extrapolate from your single use case to the entire set, in this or any other scenario. There's an entire world out there, you know?!
If you love VR and don't have any issues with the software or the hardware, fine. But don't try and pretend there are zero (widely reported) issues with it as a product because of that. That would be really really stupid.
Re: Poll: Did You Love Sony's Latest State of Play Livestream?
Only decent part was the early reveal of some of the upcoming Extra games. Now those games look good, but as the highlight for a State of Play it's not good.
Re: PSVR2: How to Reduce Motion Sickness
Having to jump through all these hoops to try and reduce a feeling of nausea from something that's supposed to be enjoyable?
I have my own foolproof method of avoiding VR motion sickness....I simply don't put on a VR headset in the first place. Can't remember the last time I got motion sickness from sitting in a comfy armchair with a controller and a cuppa.
Re: PS5 Records Another Good Week of Sales in Japan, 2.5 Million Sold Since Launch
Man, those Xbox hardware sales figures! I know it's never been popular in Japan, but it's just embarrassing now.
Re: Mini Review: Chef Life: A Restaurant Simulator (PS5) - Fun But Not Quite Masterchef
I had been interested in this, but it sounds too much like hard work. One for PS+ for me
Re: PSVR2: How to Fix Blurry or Unclear Image Quality
Sickness from VR was one of the worst experiences I'd had for years...was like a bad hangover on top of a bad hangover, and it lasted for bloody hours.
I'm just relieved I don't ever have to endure it again!
Re: Tohru Okada, the Musician Behind PlayStation's Iconic Logo Sound, Has Passed Away
Ah....I too assumed this was about the epic, sonorous, boot jingle of PS1.
Re: Play F1 22 for Free with EA Play from 2nd March
I'm mildly interested in F1 22, but with Mass Effect LE now on PS+ essential, and the plethora of quality stuff on Extra, there's zero chance I'll sub to EA Play.
Re: Fans and Media Reflect on the PS4's PlayStation Meeting a Decade Later
I mainly remember their burn to Microsoft with the 'Used Game Instructional Video' after Xbox had tried to over complicate things with their DRM!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
Re: PS Plus Extra, Premium's Big 17 PS5, PS4 Game Refresh Available Now
For the first time with one of these updates, there's so much good stuff I really don't know what I'm going to play first. 'Spoilt for choice' has never been so apt.
edit It's going to be Ace Combat 7, just because I've nearly bought it so many times over the years.
Re: Mini Review: Akka Arrh (PS5) – A Psychedelic Curiosity from the Past
Welcome back Jeff Minter.
Iridis Alpha, how I loved you so....
Re: Atomic Heart (PS5) - Alt History Shooter with an Identity Crisis
pah. might try it when it's on plus.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for February 2023?
@Toypop Nearly as bad as the ones who bought it day one and pretend they're glad because they don't have to put the disc in anymore now when they want to play it 🤣🤣
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for February 2023?
@Th3solution same! The Quarry, Scarlet Nexus - interested in both, wouldn't have purchased. Ace Combat nearly bought loads of times. Haven't played HFW - got bored during HZD, but I'll take it for free any day of the week.
What a month.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for February 2023?
Best month ever 👍
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 464
Hogwarts Legacy.
Re: God of War Ragnarok Testers Weren't Bothered by Early Puzzle Spoilers
It's a tricky balance though. I can't stand the flow of a game being broken by obtuse puzzles when all you want to do is get on with the action and the story.
Having to play a game with a guide webpage open to solve often unintuitive 'puzzles' annoys me even more than the reverse scenario talked about here.