As a creative of any kind one of the most irritating things to hear from someone is “But think of the exposure!” Absolute bull***t. Most artists spend their entire lives getting screwed over, even many who ‘make it’, so he’s 100% right in refusing such a terrible offer for the use of such a famous song. It’s an insult. If Rockstar’s budget can’t stretch to a respectable offer they shouldn’t have approached them in the first place.
@GamingFan4Lyf For me personally it’s the lore and setting. I’m a sucker for any kind of Eldridge shenanigans, which BB handled masterfully. And much as I enjoy Demon Souls et al, knights and dragons were never my thing.
@get2sammyb I can’t help feel some of it’s to do with the Factions cancellation. That was probably the one gaas game PS players actually wanted and were looking forward to. Not saying it’s fair, of course, but if it is part of it I can see why some are salty about losing out on something that sounded genuinely unique and getting something totally generic instead.
Yep, definitely jumping on this. The Thing’s my all time no.1 film, but life events had me out of the gaming loop during the PS2 years so this one passed me by at the time. From other comments here sounds like I’m in for some fun!
@IamJT Quite. I’m no fan of corporations, but I’m not a fan of selective truth either. Sounds like WB’s only real dumb*** move was wanting it made live service partway through development. Everything else seems to have been down to the RS heads, the info on which comes from developers at RS, not WB suites. Sounds like development was a fluster duck from the outset.
The full Bloomberg piece is interesting reading and paints a slightly different picture than the simple one of ‘meddling money men’. Sounds like a lot of the issues were caused by the now-former studio heads themselves. For one thing, they were planning a multiplayer puzzle game before WB even approached them about Suicide Squad. So that alone kills the narrative they were forced away from their single player melee roots.
Whenever one of these Ellie knock-off stories turns up I’m reminded that ND had to change their initial design after Elliot Page accused them of the exact same thing. Oh Karma...you old rogue, you 😅
@gpimlott Only if the definition of propaganda was recently amended to “acknowledging something that exists in this world”. I’ll go out on a limb, though, and say that it hasn’t.
An excellent pair of games I’ve replayed many times over. Agree the second doesn’t quite reach the heights of the first, though, which goes for the soundtrack as well. The first game’s has to be up there as one of the greatest game OST of all time.
Lovely stuff. Will give Gotham Knights a bash and have been waiting forever for a decent sale on Disco Elysium, so that one’s ace. Only other one for my tastes would be Alien Isolation but I platinumed that a few weeks ago so 🤷🏻♂️
I really do miss the days of laser focused linear narrative games, when not everything had to be live service or icon littered open-worlds with RPG mechanics and menus stuffed with skill trees 😞
Reading these comments confirms what I’ve long suspected, which is that many of those obsessed with high frame rates don’t actually understand frame rates. More is not always good. Different rates serve different purposes depending on the desired effect. Fighters, sports games, COD, etc. benefit from high rates because they’re built around reaction times and the increased visual information aids that. AW2 and other survival horror games have a very deliberate pacing that simply doesn’t require it, especially if, as the case is here, you’re going for a cinematic feel. In fact, to be technically accurate even 30’s too high for this aim, since 24fps is the long established ideal for cinema. So there.
@naruball Right? I thought/hoped perhaps it was just that thing when you’re a teen and think anyone above 20’s old (as most of us probably did at that age) But nope, turns out they’re just incredibly messed up in the head. 🤷🏻♂️ Agree with you on Jennifer’s Body btw. An excellent and underrated satire.
“it's fair to assume that more casual gamers will be leaping at the chance to play Red Dead Redemption on current consoles”
I do wonder about this tbh. I would have thought the casual crowd would almost be more turned off by dated visuals than the hardcore, since they tend to be associated with COD, FIFA, AC etc. (i.e. high-end blockbuster stuff)
I just find the whole thing so incomprehensible. Almost the entire map is there in RDR2. Marsden and a bunch of other character models are there. They've got all the original dialogue tracks. So much of the work to update it's been done already. Why wouldn't you just go ahead and finish? People would likely pay more for that. And be happy to as well. Madness.
@Mitsui That isn’t rhetoric, just me saying I’m glad I’m not someone who bases the value and quality of something on financial figures. A little rudely in retrospect, sure, so apologies for that. But that is what your reply suggested given my post referred to the buggy, migraine-inducing mess the GTA trilogy remasters undeniably were, not how well they sold despite that. If that’s not what you meant then fair enough. Just a classic case of miscommunication 👍🏻
@Mitsui You’re kidding right? It’s well known what a colossal balls-up that release was. It’s even referenced in this very article. That said, if sales figures are all you judge the quality of something by I guess it’s no surprise we disagree. I’m glad I’m not you, though.
Besides agreeing with all of the above, I’ll say this as well - between this, the GTA trilogy fiasco, abysmal support for RDO, decade-long milking of GTO, the departure of Dan Houser and other key creatives from Rockstar’s history… I now have zero interest I GTA6. Absolutely none.
What’s funny to me is that no one who has an issue with this non-issue seems to factor in the aspect that the two are from different platforms. It’s blindingly obvious the PS5 will render models differently to the PS4, which makes it twice as amusing given these same people spend the rest of their time moaning PS5 graphics are being held back by cross generation releases. Humans, eh?
Why oh why did they not do this originally (or at least a lot sooner)? Hard not to think it would have reached a wider audience/userbase if they had ¯(ツ)/¯
@nessisonett halfway through the second season now and couldn’t agree with you more. Both of them are fantastic and I don’t think a show’s made me gut-laugh so often in years 😆
OT - Absolutely cannot wait for DS2. The first was utterly unique and compelling and, as I live on my tod, probably saved my sanity during Lockdown.
Also, it being Kojima, I think I’d only be mildly surprised if it ended up being a PS3 game tbh 🙃
@MoorePs4 @rjejr There’s zero evidence the EU have or would do anything like that. It’s a Daily Mail dog-whistle, the same baseless nonsense that got the UK in the dire situation we now find ourselves.
@tallythwack I hear ya 😂 Those things are generally overused or implemented poorly, it’s true. But they have their place if they’re done well. The Godfather Part 2’s a good example. Most of the film’s a flashback and it’s arguably better than the first.
@Matroska The thing is, by having the flashbacks after Joel’s death it softens the blow for the audience, almost as if he’s not actually dead.
Tarantino told a great story once about when he was pitching Pulp Fiction to studio execs. They couldn’t believe he wanted to kill off Vincent Vega halfway through, but then they found out the structure meant he was technically alive at the end of the film and they were happy again 😂
@XOF This all day and all night. If Joel’s death didn’t cut you up you’re dead inside, but if all you came away from the game with was being angry they killed your favourite character you don’t understand what good storytelling is.
Hopefully it features a PS5 slim announcement. I usually wait 2 years before upgrading but I’ve been holding out this time. Fortunately there’s not been a must-have new gen only release yet (imo), but Spider-Man 2 will change all that.
I’m surprised Humanity’s not getting more mentions tbh. Looked pretty dope to me. They rocked it with Tetris Effect so I’m definitely down with a surreal take on Lemmings.
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Re: PlayStation Preservation Expert Has Safely Stored Over Half a Petabyte of Sony's Gaming History
@HappyGamerGirl My guess would be it’s all stored on LTO tapes or something.
Re: Alien: Isolation Sequel Announced, in Early Development
I was going to write an excited comment but seems I’ve gotta change my flippin’ underwear first.
Re: Rumour: PS6 Could Span a Console and Handheld Device
Doesn’t matter to me. If the PS6 is £700+, which seems all but confirmed at this point, and they stick with their current games strategy, I’m out.
Re: Days Gone Director Roasts 'Small Game' Astro Bot PS5 for Deacon St John Cameo
The more I read about this guy the more Deacon being an absolute knob with his sudden outbursts of rage makes total sense 😂
Re: 80s Synthpop Stars Heaven 17 Resist the Temptation of PS5's GTA 6
As a creative of any kind one of the most irritating things to hear from someone is “But think of the exposure!” Absolute bull***t. Most artists spend their entire lives getting screwed over, even many who ‘make it’, so he’s 100% right in refusing such a terrible offer for the use of such a famous song. It’s an insult. If Rockstar’s budget can’t stretch to a respectable offer they shouldn’t have approached them in the first place.
Re: A New Day, a New Bloodborne PS5 Rumour
@GamingFan4Lyf For me personally it’s the lore and setting. I’m a sucker for any kind of Eldridge shenanigans, which BB handled masterfully. And much as I enjoy Demon Souls et al, knights and dragons were never my thing.
Re: PS5, PC FPS Concord's Poor Player Numbers Have Predictably Gone Viral
@get2sammyb I can’t help feel some of it’s to do with the Factions cancellation. That was probably the one gaas game PS players actually wanted and were looking forward to. Not saying it’s fair, of course, but if it is part of it I can see why some are salty about losing out on something that sounded genuinely unique and getting something totally generic instead.
Re: Gallery: PS5, PS4's The Thing Remastered Looks Gnarly as Ever in Fresh 4K Screenshots
Yep, definitely jumping on this. The Thing’s my all time no.1 film, but life events had me out of the gaming loop during the PS2 years so this one passed me by at the time. From other comments here sounds like I’m in for some fun!
Re: Woo One of Six Beauties in Acclaimed Chinese Dating Sim Love Is All Around
I can’t be the only one who misread the sub-header, right?
Anyone?
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Re: Genre Pivot, 'Toxic Positivity' Blamed for Suicide Squad's $200 Million Flop
@PsBoxSwitchOwner That’s what’s in the report, yes. Strangely it’s been left out of this second PS article as well.
Re: Batman: Arkham Dev Allegedly Enlisted to Work on Hogwarts Legacy After Suicide Squad Flop
@IamJT Quite. I’m no fan of corporations, but I’m not a fan of selective truth either. Sounds like WB’s only real dumb*** move was wanting it made live service partway through development. Everything else seems to have been down to the RS heads, the info on which comes from developers at RS, not WB suites. Sounds like development was a fluster duck from the outset.
Re: Batman: Arkham Dev Allegedly Enlisted to Work on Hogwarts Legacy After Suicide Squad Flop
The full Bloomberg piece is interesting reading and paints a slightly different picture than the simple one of ‘meddling money men’. Sounds like a lot of the issues were caused by the now-former studio heads themselves. For one thing, they were planning a multiplayer puzzle game before WB even approached them about Suicide Squad. So that alone kills the narrative they were forced away from their single player melee roots.
Re: New PS5 Firmware Update Adds Community Game Help Feature, Here Are All the Patch Notes
Personally I’d like to see them improve the media player that’s currently lacking almost every feature of the PS4 one.
Re: Random: That Sure Looks Like Ellie from The Last of Us in Mobile Game Doomsday: Last Survivors
Whenever one of these Ellie knock-off stories turns up I’m reminded that ND had to change their initial design after Elliot Page accused them of the exact same thing. Oh Karma...you old rogue, you 😅
Re: The Last of Us HBO Season 2 Announces Castings for Manny, Owen, Mel, and Nora
@GuttyYZ I believe they’ve said they’re splitting Part 2 over two seasons, yeah.
Re: Kojima's Bizarre PS5 Death Stranding 2 Trailer Gets the Meme Treatment
@Icey664 An acceptable trade-off for keeping our souls intact, though, I’d say.
Re: Soapbox: The Wait for GTA 6 on PS5 Will Be Excruciating
@kyleforrester87 Thank you for your service 🫡
Re: GTA 6 Could Be Announced Later This Week for PS5
@Yaycandy Oh yeah, of course. My mistake. Well I certainly hope you’re right and 6 won’t be the shadow of its former selves I fear it might 🤞🏻
Re: GTA 6 Could Be Announced Later This Week for PS5
@Yaycandy No, RDR2 was also written by Dan Houser. So GTA6 will be their first game without any of those original creatives.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Is a PS5 Masterpiece, According to Super Smash Bros Maker
@gpimlott Only if the definition of propaganda was recently amended to “acknowledging something that exists in this world”. I’ll go out on a limb, though, and say that it hasn’t.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Is a PS5 Masterpiece, According to Super Smash Bros Maker
@Darth_Stofi Even without having played it I’m willing to bet large amounts of cold hard cash this isn’t even remotely true.
Re: Hotline Miami Collection Brings Both Games to PS5, Available Now
An excellent pair of games I’ve replayed many times over. Agree the second doesn’t quite reach the heights of the first, though, which goes for the soundtrack as well. The first game’s has to be up there as one of the greatest game OST of all time.
Re: Gollum May Not Be the Worst PS5, PS4 Game of the Year After All
It’s pretty hard not to see that crab and reach the conclusion this is indeed a piss-take.
Other than that I can only say it takes a special kind of skill to make King bloody Kong feel small!
Re: Real Madrid Forward Vini Jr Is Designing a Spider-Man 2 Suit for PS5
This is excellent news. Footballers are well known for their impeccable taste and solid design backgrounds.
Re: 8 PS Plus Extra Games for October Leaked Early
Lovely stuff. Will give Gotham Knights a bash and have been waiting forever for a decent sale on Disco Elysium, so that one’s ace. Only other one for my tastes would be Alien Isolation but I platinumed that a few weeks ago so 🤷🏻♂️
Re: PlayStation's Push for Live Service Games Hasn't Been Going Smoothly
I really do miss the days of laser focused linear narrative games, when not everything had to be live service or icon littered open-worlds with RPG mechanics and menus stuffed with skill trees 😞
Re: Alan Wake 2 Has a Performance Mode on PS5, But It's Been Built as a '30FPS Experience'
Reading these comments confirms what I’ve long suspected, which is that many of those obsessed with high frame rates don’t actually understand frame rates. More is not always good. Different rates serve different purposes depending on the desired effect. Fighters, sports games, COD, etc. benefit from high rates because they’re built around reaction times and the increased visual information aids that. AW2 and other survival horror games have a very deliberate pacing that simply doesn’t require it, especially if, as the case is here, you’re going for a cinematic feel. In fact, to be technically accurate even 30’s too high for this aim, since 24fps is the long established ideal for cinema. So there.
Re: Megan Fox Lends Her Likeness to Nitara in Mortal Kombat 1 on PS5
@naruball Right? I thought/hoped perhaps it was just that thing when you’re a teen and think anyone above 20’s old (as most of us probably did at that age) But nope, turns out they’re just incredibly messed up in the head. 🤷🏻♂️
Agree with you on Jennifer’s Body btw. An excellent and underrated satire.
Re: Megan Fox Lends Her Likeness to Nitara in Mortal Kombat 1 on PS5
@Cashews Comments like this always crack me up. She’s 37. Literally the prime of her life 😂
Re: Three More PS Plus Essential Games Are Available to Download Now
Yeah not cluttering up my library more than it already is with these.
Re: Red Dead Redemption PS4 Trends on PS Store as $50 Port Attracts a Lot of Attention
“it's fair to assume that more casual gamers will be leaping at the chance to play Red Dead Redemption on current consoles”
I do wonder about this tbh. I would have thought the casual crowd would almost be more turned off by dated visuals than the hardcore, since they tend to be associated with COD, FIFA, AC etc. (i.e. high-end blockbuster stuff)
Re: Most PlayStation Fans Dead Against Buying Red Dead Redemption PS4 Port at Launch
I just find the whole thing so incomprehensible. Almost the entire map is there in RDR2. Marsden and a bunch of other character models are there. They've got all the original dialogue tracks. So much of the work to update it's been done already. Why wouldn't you just go ahead and finish? People would likely pay more for that. And be happy to as well. Madness.
Re: Broforce Forever Final Update Adds New Bros, More Freedoms, Fresh Patriotic Fervor on PS4
Absolutely love this game. 4-player bro-op is just total mayhem 😂
Re: Red Dead Redemption PS4 Announcement Gets Slaughtered by Fans
@Mitsui That isn’t rhetoric, just me saying I’m glad I’m not someone who bases the value and quality of something on financial figures. A little rudely in retrospect, sure, so apologies for that. But that is what your reply suggested given my post referred to the buggy, migraine-inducing mess the GTA trilogy remasters undeniably were, not how well they sold despite that. If that’s not what you meant then fair enough. Just a classic case of miscommunication 👍🏻
Re: Red Dead Redemption PS4 Announcement Gets Slaughtered by Fans
@Mitsui You’re kidding right? It’s well known what a colossal balls-up that release was. It’s even referenced in this very article. That said, if sales figures are all you judge the quality of something by I guess it’s no surprise we disagree. I’m glad I’m not you, though.
Re: Red Dead Redemption PS4 Announcement Gets Slaughtered by Fans
Besides agreeing with all of the above, I’ll say this as well - between this, the GTA trilogy fiasco, abysmal support for RDO, decade-long milking of GTO, the departure of Dan Houser and other key creatives from Rockstar’s history… I now have zero interest I GTA6. Absolutely none.
Re: Red Dead Redemption Out on PS4 This Month, Not a Remaster
@ShogunRok That does seem to be their MO these days.
Re: Veteran FromSoftware Composer Yuka Kitamura Departs to Begin Freelance Adventure
In the interest of the community’s mental health I really think you should stop using Bloodborne thumbnails 😂
Re: New Red Dead Redemption Logo Fuels More Remake Rumours
I’d be all over this like beans on toast.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Will Feature the Same Mary Jane Face Model, Insomniac Insists
What’s funny to me is that no one who has an issue with this non-issue seems to factor in the aspect that the two are from different platforms. It’s blindingly obvious the PS5 will render models differently to the PS4, which makes it twice as amusing given these same people spend the rest of their time moaning PS5 graphics are being held back by cross generation releases. Humans, eh?
Re: New Usage Terms Let You Use Creations Outside of Dreams as End of Live Service Approaches
Why oh why did they not do this originally (or at least a lot sooner)? Hard not to think it would have reached a wider audience/userbase if they had ¯(ツ)/¯
Re: Embattled Ubisoft Sailing Sim Skull and Bones Forces PS5 Beta to Walk the Plank
Spare a commiseratory thought for the PC crowd I guess? 😅
Re: Elle Fanning: People Say Death Stranding 2 Is The Coolest Thing I've Ever Done
@nessisonett halfway through the second season now and couldn’t agree with you more. Both of them are fantastic and I don’t think a show’s made me gut-laugh so often in years 😆
OT - Absolutely cannot wait for DS2. The first was utterly unique and compelling and, as I live on my tod, probably saved my sanity during Lockdown.
Also, it being Kojima, I think I’d only be mildly surprised if it ended up being a PS3 game tbh 🙃
Re: UK's Activision Buyout Block Prevents Microsoft from Trying Again for 10 Years
@MoorePs4 @rjejr There’s zero evidence the EU have or would do anything like that. It’s a Daily Mail dog-whistle, the same baseless nonsense that got the UK in the dire situation we now find ourselves.
Re: The Last of Us HBO Exec Touches on Joel's Fate in Season 2
@tallythwack I hear ya 😂 Those things are generally overused or implemented poorly, it’s true. But they have their place if they’re done well. The Godfather Part 2’s a good example. Most of the film’s a flashback and it’s arguably better than the first.
Re: The Last of Us HBO Exec Touches on Joel's Fate in Season 2
@Matroska The thing is, by having the flashbacks after Joel’s death it softens the blow for the audience, almost as if he’s not actually dead.
Tarantino told a great story once about when he was pitching Pulp Fiction to studio execs. They couldn’t believe he wanted to kill off Vincent Vega halfway through, but then they found out the structure meant he was technically alive at the end of the film and they were happy again 😂
Re: The Last of Us HBO Exec Touches on Joel's Fate in Season 2
@XOF This all day and all night. If Joel’s death didn’t cut you up you’re dead inside, but if all you came away from the game with was being angry they killed your favourite character you don’t understand what good storytelling is.
Re: Deep Rock Galactic's PS Plus Launch Was Instrumental to Success of IP
And herein lies the fundamental flaw with Suicide Squad, Avengers, etc. No one wants to spend money on a game they’ve already paid £60+ quid for.
Re: Rumour: Sony Saving PS5's Good Stuff for PS Showcase Prior to E3 2023
Hopefully it features a PS5 slim announcement. I usually wait 2 years before upgrading but I’ve been holding out this time. Fortunately there’s not been a must-have new gen only release yet (imo), but Spider-Man 2 will change all that.
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced During Sony's State of Play Livestream for February 2023?
I’m surprised Humanity’s not getting more mentions tbh. Looked pretty dope to me. They rocked it with Tetris Effect so I’m definitely down with a surreal take on Lemmings.