@NEStalgia I’m just having a bit of fun hypothesizing gaming’s horrific future 😂 For me, when it comes to the arts, A.I. is a scourge, and when I start playing these scenarios out to the fullest extent, I fully share your cynicism as to where A.I. is taking things.
@NEStalgia It might be the wrong word but I was thinking ‘democratized’ in the sense of rather than experiencing a linear, carefully crafted singular vision, one’s experience would be generated on the fly, completely reactive to their unique parameters and input, resulting in a far more personal adventure.
‘Democratized’ in the sense of the internet celebrity of the day casting dignity to the wind to have their followers subject them to whatever experience can be conjured up amongst the crowd in some dystopian version of a let’s play.
The human is still the catalyst of the story as nothing is generated without input, and anything that is generated is meaningless eithout an audience to receive it.
@NEStalgia I think the big difference between 2013 and now is the advent of A.I. I’m looking well in to the future here but when the public can live out their own entirely personalized dynamic experience crafted through prompts by A.I., I’d argue that storytelling will have been democratized. It pains me to think of mediums such as film becoming niche remnants of a bygone era.
I think I understand what he’s getting at and taken for exactly what it is, “Could redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming” is a pretty broad statement and not all that hyperbolic. Most people in my world still view gaming as either a children’s pastime or a way to pass time on your phone and largely as a meritless waste of that time. Organized Esports are only just being introduced into the school system. There is absolutely massive growth potential for gaming and especially the type of games Naughty Dog makes, which have already been bridging this gap for some time.
I really enjoyed the first one and thought it was a very memorable experience. I was hoping this sequel would take the A Plague Tale route and build and expand on everything the first did, without losing any of what made it special. I have to say I’m a little disappointed by what it sounds like we ended up with.
@SuperJag86 Not many games can compare favourably to Ghost of Tsushima’s presentation! From my perspective, the two games are driven by completely different design philosophies. How I see it:
GoT aims for immersion, blending cinematic spectacle and straightforward, easily digestible systems in a gorgeously rendered world. Everything works in service of the player connecting directly with Jin and introspectively ruminating on the themes resulting from his inner conflict while stylistically paying homage to a specific genre of film. Its dynamite for what it is.
RotR is first and foremost a video game and has far more going on in it than GoT. It’s a direct open world translation of Team Ninja’s dopamine drip of systems driven, highly customizable, incredibly responsive action heavy gameplay. Everything works in service of player expression, with its “bond” system being the engine underneath it all. Without going on too long here, not everything it attempts fully comes together, thus I’d be hard pressed to call it the better game, but it comes together where I think it matters most as an action rpg.
Edit: also, since I don’t believe they get near enough credit, RotR’s audio design and score are phenomenal.
Nice update! I enjoyed this one enough to get the platinum for it. It takes too long to settle into itself but once it does, it offers a deeply satisfying gameplay experience.
The power of this brand is a real force. Whether to whet the appetite for Shadows or to get away from the nonsense, I recommend the excellent Rise of the Ronin, a historically beholden Assassin’s Creed style samurai sim in which you can create any protagonist you fancy and developed by a passionate Japanese developer.
After getting the platinum for Rise of the Ronin, I’ve traded in cats for cans (the cylindrical aluminum kind) and am playing through Stellar Blade. Really enjoying it! Happy gaming!
Sounds fascinating! I think ambiguity is a very smart approach here in effectively challenging and engaging the player to think on their beliefs. As a believer in Christ with a very real distaste and distrust of religious institutions, I’m already drawing my own interpretations and arguments on the material just based off of the examples provided in this review. I genuinely hope it can spur on some healthy introspection and discussion amongst the community.
It’s hard to comment on anything definitively without the data but putting that aside, I think it’s a great idea and I’d actually like to see more select games release between the two platforms with parity day and date.
The harsh reality of consolidation rears its ugly head yet again. We should be cheering on partnerships, not acquisitions; independent wealth, not corporate greed. Brutal news but unfortunately not surprising.
A corporation is an entity conceived and designed for the sole purpose of generating as much profit as possible - and here’s the caveat- within a given market. To do this effectively, a human touch is required and folks are paid big bucks to make what works on paper actually work in practice. This is not a market that Sony can waltz into and dictate their status quo, that much is clear. You can’t take your golden calf into the lions den and expect to make it out alive without respecting the lions’ nature. This whole thing’s been mildly fascinating to watch unfold.
This is great! If the end result of this fiasco is a tongue in cheek cape, I’d say Sony and Arrowhead have sailed through this potential disaster brilliantly.
At this point in the situation, was there really any other option? Sony ultimately brought this on themselves and at the end of the day, arrived at a pretty democratic resolution.
@Deityjester Well, between you and I, that’s two, and I think we could safely add many zeroes to that number just from folks on this site alone if engagement on past Days Gone articles is anything to go by. The passion is real 😄
First party: Demon’s Souls, Astrobot, Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart, Returnal and Spider-Man 2.
Third party exclusive: Final Fanrasy XVI, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade.
That’s 10 PS5 games. Combine that with not insignificant cross-gen releases such as God of War Ragnarok, Horizon Forbidden West and Sackboy, I see a varied menu of high quality releases only found within the PlayStation ecosystem. I haven’t even touched third party or indie.
PS5 also launched (successfully) in the midst of a world altering pandemic, of which the effects are still being felt in the supply chain, labour force and economic climate. In order to develop games at the fidelity players expect, and without crunch, in a situation where they are more expensive and take longer to make than ever before, I think Sony’s strategy is working out just fine all things considered. It’s fair to say that some mistakes with resource management have been made behind the scenes but it’s precisely this strategy of diversity that has kept these mistakes from becoming critical.
A lot of PS4’s biggest titles, such as Ghost of Tsushima, released far into its lifespan and beloved titles such as Days Gone and The Order 1886 reviewed far lower across the board than the current “ugly duckling”, Rise of the Ronin.
I think Sony has bought the time they need to get their ducks in a row and are going to smash the latter half of this console’s lifespan out of the water.
Game development is such an iterative creative process, it’s especially primed for just about every pitfall imaginable. Shipping any game is a minor miracle. Should be a good watch!
I chose to support Remedy and purchased this at full price digitally, something I rarely do. I did my part. Unfortunately, I also felt the game was a real step back for Remedy. Perhaps the product just isn’t resonating with enough players to justify such high development costs. It’s hard to manufacture an audience.
@Rich33 If you’re sensitive to it, I’d recommend holding off a bit longer. Performance is all over the place. Sometimes it’s a rock solid 60fps and other times it’s just not. A shame as the world is extremely well crafted.
I’m loving my time with it. Not everything lands but it’s a really fun game that I also happen to think is quite beautiful. Hope it does well, Team Ninja is onto something with this formula.
Sounds like a lot of fun! I’m hoping the dodge mechanic has improved since the demo as I personally felt it bordered on broken. The parry and blink were rock solid though.
@get2sammyb How is the environmental variety? Are there lots of diverse locations or is it mostly ‘broken down city lost to nature?’
I like how the title looks like it was slashed into place by a sword. The angular font adds so much depth and dimension to the piece, while the overtly symmetrical composition communicates a sense of power and control: you have the means to keep chaos at bay. It’s fantastic box art.
I’ve put Rise of the Ronin on the back burner in order to rip through the two FF XVI DLC’s. Happy Gaming!
@HeavymetalGordon Not only will I also be watching NHL playoffs but I’m also playing through Unravel 2 with my son and also missed the same trophy as you on my Elden Ring play through. I feel very understood right now 😂 Cheers!
@Ravix Loading up your ‘complete’ save file puts you back to the point of no return, which is where you need to be to start the DLC. 😄
Edit: Just to add to this, even if you didn’t save after completing the game for some reason, you’d still have your save before the point of no return. There’s basically no way to miss this unless you’ve deleted your saves.
Kairos gate sounds really neat, I had no idea it was a thing. I’m glad to see they’re all in on the wonderful combat system. I loaded up my ‘Origin Complete’ save last night, only to see that I had to complete a few quests in order to access the DLC (I had skipped most side quests on my FF run). It worked out though, as I needed to familiarize myself with everything again anyway. Hope to start both DLC’s proper tonight!
NieR: Automata is a masterwork of video game storytelling. At this point, I don’t see the comparison but I’ll wait to pass judgement. Still, those are some big stilettos to fill.
Great interview, thanks! Can’t wait to fully wrap this journey up. I will be forever grateful for this black sheep of a Final Fantasy and they should be really proud of what they made.
This is excellent news. Final Fantasy mode felt like the way the game was intended to be played, it’s just such a fun combat system when it’s balanced properly.
I hope Final Fantasy never loses its penchant for doing things differently with each entry. Each one has its unique ups and downs. At the very least, it’ll provide endless fodder for fans to argue about what Final Fantasy REALLY is. Loved XVI and can’t wait for the DLC.
I was really hoping this would have the gameplay to match its incredible visual style. This review reads pretty much how I felt about Alan Wake II but this time I think I’ll steer clear until it’s on a sale.
Rise of the Ronin and Unicorn Overlord. Gaming life is good.
@LikelySatan The Amulet series has been a big stepping stone for our kids. Definitely worth looking into, plus the final volume recently released so it’s a complete story.
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Re: Key Sony Exec Gives Eye-Opening Quotes on the Future of PlayStation and Gaming
@NEStalgia I’m just having a bit of fun hypothesizing gaming’s horrific future 😂 For me, when it comes to the arts, A.I. is a scourge, and when I start playing these scenarios out to the fullest extent, I fully share your cynicism as to where A.I. is taking things.
Re: Key Sony Exec Gives Eye-Opening Quotes on the Future of PlayStation and Gaming
@NEStalgia It might be the wrong word but I was thinking ‘democratized’ in the sense of rather than experiencing a linear, carefully crafted singular vision, one’s experience would be generated on the fly, completely reactive to their unique parameters and input, resulting in a far more personal adventure.
‘Democratized’ in the sense of the internet celebrity of the day casting dignity to the wind to have their followers subject them to whatever experience can be conjured up amongst the crowd in some dystopian version of a let’s play.
The human is still the catalyst of the story as nothing is generated without input, and anything that is generated is meaningless eithout an audience to receive it.
Re: Key Sony Exec Gives Eye-Opening Quotes on the Future of PlayStation and Gaming
@NEStalgia I think the big difference between 2013 and now is the advent of A.I. I’m looking well in to the future here but when the public can live out their own entirely personalized dynamic experience crafted through prompts by A.I., I’d argue that storytelling will have been democratized. It pains me to think of mediums such as film becoming niche remnants of a bygone era.
Re: The Next Naughty Dog Game Its 'Most Thrilling Yet', Says Neil Druckmann
I think I understand what he’s getting at and taken for exactly what it is, “Could redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming” is a pretty broad statement and not all that hyperbolic. Most people in my world still view gaming as either a children’s pastime or a way to pass time on your phone and largely as a meritless waste of that time. Organized Esports are only just being introduced into the school system. There is absolutely massive growth potential for gaming and especially the type of games Naughty Dog makes, which have already been bridging this gap for some time.
Re: Soapbox: Once a PS4 Console Exclusive, PS5 Players Are Missing a Visual Stunner in Hellblade 2
I really enjoyed the first one and thought it was a very memorable experience. I was hoping this sequel would take the A Plague Tale route and build and expand on everything the first did, without losing any of what made it special. I have to say I’m a little disappointed by what it sounds like we ended up with.
Re: Rise of the Ronin Update Coming This Week, Adds Missions and Features
@SuperJag86 Not many games can compare favourably to Ghost of Tsushima’s presentation! From my perspective, the two games are driven by completely different design philosophies. How I see it:
GoT aims for immersion, blending cinematic spectacle and straightforward, easily digestible systems in a gorgeously rendered world. Everything works in service of the player connecting directly with Jin and introspectively ruminating on the themes resulting from his inner conflict while stylistically paying homage to a specific genre of film. Its dynamite for what it is.
RotR is first and foremost a video game and has far more going on in it than GoT. It’s a direct open world translation of Team Ninja’s dopamine drip of systems driven, highly customizable, incredibly responsive action heavy gameplay. Everything works in service of player expression, with its “bond” system being the engine underneath it all. Without going on too long here, not everything it attempts fully comes together, thus I’d be hard pressed to call it the better game, but it comes together where I think it matters most as an action rpg.
Edit: also, since I don’t believe they get near enough credit, RotR’s audio design and score are phenomenal.
Re: Rise of the Ronin Update Coming This Week, Adds Missions and Features
Nice update! I enjoyed this one enough to get the platinum for it. It takes too long to settle into itself but once it does, it offers a deeply satisfying gameplay experience.
Re: Boss Rush Mode, Better Fast Travel in New Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown Update
Sweet! This game just so happens to be on deck for me.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Reveal Trailer Is Already the Most Disliked in Series History
The power of this brand is a real force. Whether to whet the appetite for Shadows or to get away from the nonsense, I recommend the excellent Rise of the Ronin, a historically beholden Assassin’s Creed style samurai sim in which you can create any protagonist you fancy and developed by a passionate Japanese developer.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 529
After getting the platinum for Rise of the Ronin, I’ve traded in cats for cans (the cylindrical aluminum kind) and am playing through Stellar Blade. Really enjoying it! Happy gaming!
Re: Indika (PS5) - A Bleak, Beautiful, Bewildering Rumination on Faith and Free Will
Sounds fascinating! I think ambiguity is a very smart approach here in effectively challenging and engaging the player to think on their beliefs. As a believer in Christ with a very real distaste and distrust of religious institutions, I’m already drawing my own interpretations and arguments on the material just based off of the examples provided in this review. I genuinely hope it can spur on some healthy introspection and discussion amongst the community.
Re: GreedFall 2 May Not Be the Game You Think It Is
I’ll definitely play this off the back of the first, though I was hoping for less of a reinvention and more of an evolution. Hope it comes together!
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Dated for 15th November in First Trailer
I wish the stellar production values of Assassin’s Creed could be paired with the stellar combat and progression of Rise of the Ronin.
Re: Poll: Years Later, How Do You Feel About PlayStation's PC Strategy?
It’s hard to comment on anything definitively without the data but putting that aside, I think it’s a great idea and I’d actually like to see more select games release between the two platforms with parity day and date.
Re: Random: Get Crafty with These Cool Horizon Forbidden West Papercraft Models
This is awesome! I’ll definitely be doing this with the kids.
Re: Tango Gameworks, Arkane Austin, More Closed in Brutal Bethesda Restructure
The harsh reality of consolidation rears its ugly head yet again. We should be cheering on partnerships, not acquisitions; independent wealth, not corporate greed. Brutal news but unfortunately not surprising.
Re: Helldivers 2 Blasted with Over 200,000 Positive User Reviews Following Sony's PSN Backtrack
A corporation is an entity conceived and designed for the sole purpose of generating as much profit as possible - and here’s the caveat- within a given market. To do this effectively, a human touch is required and folks are paid big bucks to make what works on paper actually work in practice. This is not a market that Sony can waltz into and dictate their status quo, that much is clear. You can’t take your golden calf into the lions den and expect to make it out alive without respecting the lions’ nature. This whole thing’s been mildly fascinating to watch unfold.
Re: Hades 2 in Early Access Has Critics Raving, Big Jump Over First Game
I had a lot of fun with Hades and felt the writing in particular was exceptional. Sounds like it’s shaping up to be a great sequel!
Re: Helldivers 2 May Turn Negative Steam Reviews into a Fashionable In-Game Cape
This is great! If the end result of this fiasco is a tongue in cheek cape, I’d say Sony and Arrowhead have sailed through this potential disaster brilliantly.
Re: Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement Backtracked on PC After Brutal Review Bombing Campaign
At this point in the situation, was there really any other option? Sony ultimately brought this on themselves and at the end of the day, arrived at a pretty democratic resolution.
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
Sony might want to look this word up:
Blunder - A gross error or mistake resulting usually from stupidity, ignorance, or carelessness.
Followed immediately by the words ‘Effective’ and ‘Communication’
Yikes
Re: Talking Point: Have Sony's Third-Party PS5 Deals Made Up for Its Lack of First-Party Games?
@amatmulisha Yeah it really is, though I’m excited to see what Bend is cooking up next!
Re: Talking Point: Have Sony's Third-Party PS5 Deals Made Up for Its Lack of First-Party Games?
@Deityjester Well, between you and I, that’s two, and I think we could safely add many zeroes to that number just from folks on this site alone if engagement on past Days Gone articles is anything to go by. The passion is real 😄
Re: Talking Point: Have Sony's Third-Party PS5 Deals Made Up for Its Lack of First-Party Games?
First party: Demon’s Souls, Astrobot, Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart, Returnal and Spider-Man 2.
Third party exclusive: Final Fanrasy XVI, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade.
That’s 10 PS5 games. Combine that with not insignificant cross-gen releases such as God of War Ragnarok, Horizon Forbidden West and Sackboy, I see a varied menu of high quality releases only found within the PlayStation ecosystem. I haven’t even touched third party or indie.
PS5 also launched (successfully) in the midst of a world altering pandemic, of which the effects are still being felt in the supply chain, labour force and economic climate. In order to develop games at the fidelity players expect, and without crunch, in a situation where they are more expensive and take longer to make than ever before, I think Sony’s strategy is working out just fine all things considered. It’s fair to say that some mistakes with resource management have been made behind the scenes but it’s precisely this strategy of diversity that has kept these mistakes from becoming critical.
A lot of PS4’s biggest titles, such as Ghost of Tsushima, released far into its lifespan and beloved titles such as Days Gone and The Order 1886 reviewed far lower across the board than the current “ugly duckling”, Rise of the Ronin.
I think Sony has bought the time they need to get their ducks in a row and are going to smash the latter half of this console’s lifespan out of the water.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 527
I’ll be making a hard push towards finishing up and maybe collecting the platinum for Rise of the Ronin. It’s been an absolute pleasure. Happy gaming!
Re: Feature: Final Fantasy 16 Expansion Pass Review: Is It Worth Buying?
“It serves up a series of replayable combat trials, and unlocks yet more Eikonic abilities for Clive.”
What’s this I read? Now I’m really itching to get to Kairos Gate!
Re: Sony's Shuhei Yoshida, Greg Rice Will Headline Brighton Dev Expo
Game development is such an iterative creative process, it’s especially primed for just about every pitfall imaginable. Shipping any game is a minor miracle. Should be a good watch!
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
I’ve been looking forward to Ghostrunner 2 but just haven’t picked it up yet. I’m pretty happy with this.
Re: Alan Wake 2 Yet to Recoup Dev, Marketing Expenses as Tencent Raises Stake
I chose to support Remedy and purchased this at full price digitally, something I rarely do. I did my part. Unfortunately, I also felt the game was a real step back for Remedy. Perhaps the product just isn’t resonating with enough players to justify such high development costs. It’s hard to manufacture an audience.
Re: Rise of the Ronin PS5 Sales Beating the Nioh Series
@Rich33 If you’re sensitive to it, I’d recommend holding off a bit longer. Performance is all over the place. Sometimes it’s a rock solid 60fps and other times it’s just not. A shame as the world is extremely well crafted.
Re: Rise of the Ronin PS5 Sales Beating the Nioh Series
I’m loving my time with it. Not everything lands but it’s a really fun game that I also happen to think is quite beautiful. Hope it does well, Team Ninja is onto something with this formula.
Re: Stellar Blade (PS5) - A Stellar PS5 Debut Destined to Become a Fan Favourite
@get2sammyb Thank you! I’m pretty excited for this after reading the review.
Re: Stellar Blade (PS5) - A Stellar PS5 Debut Destined to Become a Fan Favourite
Sounds like a lot of fun! I’m hoping the dodge mechanic has improved since the demo as I personally felt it bordered on broken. The parry and blink were rock solid though.
@get2sammyb How is the environmental variety? Are there lots of diverse locations or is it mostly ‘broken down city lost to nature?’
Re: Random: We're In Awe of Metaphor: ReFantazio's Box Art
I like how the title looks like it was slashed into place by a sword. The angular font adds so much depth and dimension to the piece, while the overtly symmetrical composition communicates a sense of power and control: you have the means to keep chaos at bay. It’s fantastic box art.
Re: Fear Not, PS5 Exclusive Stellar Blade Remains Uncensored in All Regions
I would assume this is mostly in reference to the game’s violence. Regardless, the double standard is real.
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/ea-japan-exec-criticises-japanese-rating-board-for-banning-dead-space-but-passing-stellar-blade/
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 525
I’ve put Rise of the Ronin on the back burner in order to rip through the two FF XVI DLC’s. Happy Gaming!
@HeavymetalGordon Not only will I also be watching NHL playoffs but I’m also playing through Unravel 2 with my son and also missed the same trophy as you on my Elden Ring play through. I feel very understood right now 😂 Cheers!
Re: Final Fantasy XVI: The Rising Tide (PS5) - A Fantastic Sendoff for Square's Action RPG
@Ravix Loading up your ‘complete’ save file puts you back to the point of no return, which is where you need to be to start the DLC. 😄
Edit: Just to add to this, even if you didn’t save after completing the game for some reason, you’d still have your save before the point of no return. There’s basically no way to miss this unless you’ve deleted your saves.
Re: Final Fantasy XVI: The Rising Tide (PS5) - A Fantastic Sendoff for Square's Action RPG
Kairos gate sounds really neat, I had no idea it was a thing. I’m glad to see they’re all in on the wonderful combat system. I loaded up my ‘Origin Complete’ save last night, only to see that I had to complete a few quests in order to access the DLC (I had skipped most side quests on my FF run). It worked out though, as I needed to familiarize myself with everything again anyway. Hope to start both DLC’s proper tonight!
Re: It Looks Like Kena: Bridge of Spirits Is Heading to New Platforms
Really impressive debut for Ember Lab. I actually forgot this was exclusive to PlayStation. Glad to see them expanding their audience.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Final Fantasy 16: The Rising Tide?
I lent out my copy but will be picking it up today 😄 Very excited to polish this off.
Re: Fresh PS5 Pro Report Reiterates Sony Demands for Upgraded Games
I just want to say that the picture accompanying the article rocks!
Re: Stellar Blade Is a Better Game Than NieR: Automata, Yoko Taro Reckons
NieR: Automata is a masterwork of video game storytelling. At this point, I don’t see the comparison but I’ll wait to pass judgement. Still, those are some big stilettos to fill.
Re: Mini Review: Planet of Lana (PS5) - A Gorgeous, Serene Platform Puzzler
Well, I’m sold. Sounds wonderful.
Re: Interview: Final Fantasy 16's DLC Director on The Rising Tide, 16's Success, and What Makes a Great Expansion
Great interview, thanks! Can’t wait to fully wrap this journey up. I will be forever grateful for this black sheep of a Final Fantasy and they should be really proud of what they made.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Patch 1.31 Brings Big Damage Buffs for Clive, Better Side Quests, and Much More
Much needed photo mode improvements!!!
Re: Final Fantasy 16: The Rising Tide DLC Is Designed to Be More Challenging
This is excellent news. Final Fantasy mode felt like the way the game was intended to be played, it’s just such a fun combat system when it’s balanced properly.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Successfully Expanded the Series to New, Younger Players, Says Square Enix
I hope Final Fantasy never loses its penchant for doing things differently with each entry. Each one has its unique ups and downs. At the very least, it’ll provide endless fodder for fans to argue about what Final Fantasy REALLY is. Loved XVI and can’t wait for the DLC.
Re: Harold Halibut (PS5) - Great Style, Little Substance in Fishy Sci-Fi Adventure
I was really hoping this would have the gameplay to match its incredible visual style. This review reads pretty much how I felt about Alan Wake II but this time I think I’ll steer clear until it’s on a sale.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 524
Rise of the Ronin and Unicorn Overlord. Gaming life is good.
@LikelySatan The Amulet series has been a big stepping stone for our kids. Definitely worth looking into, plus the final volume recently released so it’s a complete story.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Helldivers 2 Dominates Once Again, Dragon's Dogma 2 in Third
I’m just glad to see Rise of the Ronin hanging in there!