I can't stop myself from buying the deluxe edition of games anyway so it makes no difference to me.
On the other hand, I am getting better at waiting until games drop in price before I buy them. My backlog is so absurd that waiting won't really hurt me much even though I am really looking forward to this one. Who knows, maybe I will change my mind between now and the time it comes out.
I don't really care either way but my first reaction when watching it was that someone made a game and then decided to make it a "Prince of Persia" game after the fact.
The art style and the fact that you aren't even playing the prince but rescuing him make it feel not like a Prince of Persia game.
I don't really understand why people care so much what music is used in the trailer.
@ED_209 My point was not that co-op implies live service.
I am glad they are focused on the single player experience and separately I am hoping they don't make it a pseudo live service game as some other single player games have done.
Which service is better for an individual seems to depend on a mix of factors which include:
How important access to newly released games is
What types of games you play(Different genres are better represented on each platform)
How much time you spend playing games
How frequently you also buy games
The first two seem to be the biggest drivers.
I am currently still paying almost nothing(less than $4/mo) for game pass and honestly even at that price it isn't worth it to me.
On the other hand, from reading the comments, I can see how it would be completely worth it to others based on the types of games they play and the way they like to consume them.
I understand (well not really, but accept)_that PS will never launch their games day one, but would like at least a commitment for their games to all enter the service after a year, and stay there. Spider-Man leaving was not encouraging.
Yes, I agree with this entirely.
Even if they can, they shouldn't remove 1st party content.
As a side note, how did you indent that quote in your earlier response.
I get that Sony has contracts with publishers to keep games on the service for a fixed time and when that time ends the games need to leave the service.
What is their excuse for removing Sony published games from the service?
I think there is a market for a PS5 Pro but it will not be for everyone.
I think it will not be about resolution, it will be about support for more ray-tracing. As ray-tracing becomes increasingly baked into future titles as is likely to happen with ray-traced lightning, there will be people who are willing to pay for better performance/visuals.
@FatalBubbles I think that is a pretty fair comment.
Since I started not buying games on release, my gaming spend has dropped dramatically based on how the game market works for most publishers these days. As a result, I also don't get sucked into the new game hype and it saves me from buying some games altogether.
PS+ Extra is a great way for me to play those games that would otherwise be on the bubble for me. However, if I bought all the games I was interested in when they first came out, I probably wouldn't have much to play on the service.
I briefly thought that I was going to hear they finally but fixed Syndicate but, alas, it was not to be.
While it is good that the Chronicles titles were fixed, I wish they could get Syndicate working on PS5. I literally keep my PS4 Pro around just for this title.
It seems likely Ubisoft has determined it is not worth the effort.
There is nothing particularly interesting for me this month but there are still good games from prior months I haven't gotten to yet so I am still satisfied overall.
For me, it depends on 2 things. 1. The game itself, not all games heavily benefit from 60fps. 2. What the compromises would be. Often 60fps can be obtained with minor compromises such as RT being disabled or minor resolution compromises. However, I don't want to play at 720p to achieve 60fps.
@KidBoruto From the outside, it isn't clear to me who should be responsible for fixing it to be honest.
The game works as-designed on PS4, the platform Ubisoft made it for. It feels like the fact that it doesn't work on PS5 should be Sony's problem as much as Ubisoft's.
Since they seemed to have been working on it and have made other changes to enhance Assassin's Creed games for 60fps I am guessing it turned out to be more investment than they were willing to spend to make it work on PS5.
The chronicles games are no big loss but it is a shame they won't/can't fix Syndicate. Outside of PC, PS4 is the best Syndicate experience. It is one of the reasons I still have a PS4 connected to my TV even though I have a PS5.
Sony exists to make as much money for it's shareholders as possible. It isn't a public service.
With the state of supply and demand during the pandemic, they could have launched the console with a price a $700 and they would have sold just as many units. But....they didn't.
If the executives didn't increase prices and simply allowed profits to fall as costs increased they would all lose their jobs. Especially in a market where costs for everything else is increasing.
The PS5 is a luxury item to begin with. Nobody needs one.
I guess that is probably geared more towards collectors than game players. $300 is fairly steep but only a little more than similar collections for other games.
@dancingmind I won't stop buying games. I am probably different than some others in this regard. Since I have a tendency to replay games I am still likely to buy the games I genuinely enjoy.
However, playing it and having it available via PS Plus gives me the freedom to try it and find out if it is worth buying. It also provides the flexibility to wait until the price drops to something I am more comfortable with.
I am surprisingly impressed with PS Plus extra so far. I have been a game pass subscriber for over a year and while there is lots of content, there has been exactly one game I have wanted to play that I didn't already own.
Withe extra, there is already more than one game on the service I am interested in and since the service is new they are adding games to it at a pretty reasonable pace. I don't mind the fact that they are slowly adding games every month.
But, yes, premium is a joke unless you use the streaming side of it.
To be clear, I don't think that most people are saying that HFW is a bad game. I just think the statement that it is responsible for driving sales or that people prefer that bundle is silly. People are being forced to buy the game whether they want it or not in a bundle because that is how Sony is choosing to sell the PS5 right now. The PS5 sales have nothing to do with HFW, they are selling every unit they can make.
"Why is nobody happy that the PS5 outsold series X/S in July, regardless of bundles? More PS5 console sales than Xbox should be a good thing?"
@PSme Two reasons: 1. Console sales right now have nothing to do with demand, both consoles are selling every unit they can make. 2. Is one console selling more than another really something to celebrate?
@RSX901 I mean "I don't own it" in the sense that I claimed the PS4 version on PSPlus the same as many others but I don't own the PS5 intergrade version.
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Re: Indiana Jones Game Deal Amended to Exclude PS5, PS4
@number1024 I suppose that those who only have one platform are happy or sad based on which platform they have.
PS has had a wealth of great platform exclusives that XB owners have been locked out of so it works both ways.
Re: Indiana Jones Game Deal Amended to Exclude PS5, PS4
Sounds good to me. Since PS typically gets all the exclusives I am interested in, my XBOX mostly collects dust.
Some decent XBOX exclusives would make my investment worthwhile.
Re: Final Fantasy 16's Painterly Japanese Commercial Is Epic
@get2sammyb You can turn CC on and get English subtitles.
It was quite awesome but I don't think that ad would fly in many other parts of the world.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for June 2023?
Nothing super exciting for me this month. That being said, I still have titles from previous months to go through.
There is plenty of good content on PS Plus for me. I am enjoying the service overall.
Re: You'll Need Marvel's Spider-Man 2's Digital Deluxe Edition for Those Extra PS5 Suits
I can't stop myself from buying the deluxe edition of games anyway so it makes no difference to me.
On the other hand, I am getting better at waiting until games drop in price before I buy them. My backlog is so absurd that waiting won't really hurt me much even though I am really looking forward to this one. Who knows, maybe I will change my mind between now and the time it comes out.
Re: Poll: Was Capcom Showcase 2023 All Killer, or Mostly Filler?
This was the worse one I have seen so far this year. Completely underwhelming.
Re: Apparently Some People Hate the New PS5, PS4 Prince of Persia Game
I don't really care either way but my first reaction when watching it was that someone made a game and then decided to make it a "Prince of Persia" game after the fact.
The art style and the fact that you aren't even playing the prince but rescuing him make it feel not like a Prince of Persia game.
I don't really understand why people care so much what music is used in the trailer.
Re: Square Enix Allegedly 'Slightly Panicking' About Final Fantasy 16 PS5 Pre-Orders
I think pre-ordering is less common now in general.
Between frequent delays and games releasing broken I have more or less stopped pre-ordering games.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for June 2023?
There is nothing for me this month. That being said, I don't think it is a bad selection per se. Just nothing I am personally interested in.
Re: PS5 Remote Play Handheld Allegedly Has Just Four Hours of Battery Life
I don't understand why we would expect more than that on a device like this.
Personally, I would much rather have the device have less battery life than be heavier.
Re: The Lord of the Rings: Gollum's Dismal Reception Prompts Apology from Daedalic
It seems like this one is worse than the other problematic games releasing recently.
Even if they fix the bugs, I am not sure that would actually make it worth playing. It seems to be a bad game at a fundamental level.
The sad part is that it will probably still sell based purely on the IP.
Re: Sony Announces PlayStation AirPods with Lossless Audio and Low Latency
Yes! Finally some proprietary earbuds using non-standard technology.
Oh...wait...
Re: PS Plus Premium More Popular Than Extra, 30% of Subscribers Upgraded
I wonder how much of the premium volume comes from people who converted essential for a fixed price?
I subscribed to premium because it cost me less than 50 cents per month over extra.
If I was subscribing on month by month basis I would never choose premium.
Re: Claims of Co-Op in Spider-Man 2 Shot Down by Insomniac
@ED_209 My point was not that co-op implies live service.
I am glad they are focused on the single player experience and separately I am hoping they don't make it a pseudo live service game as some other single player games have done.
Re: Claims of Co-Op in Spider-Man 2 Shot Down by Insomniac
Thank you Insomniac.
I will be happy as long as it isn't a live service game.
Re: Soapbox: PS Plus Might Be Gaming's Best Subscription Service Now
The comments above are fairly interesting.
Which service is better for an individual seems to depend on a mix of factors which include:
The first two seem to be the biggest drivers.
I am currently still paying almost nothing(less than $4/mo) for game pass and honestly even at that price it isn't worth it to me.
On the other hand, from reading the comments, I can see how it would be completely worth it to others based on the types of games they play and the way they like to consume them.
Re: Soapbox: PS Plus Might Be Gaming's Best Subscription Service Now
@Tharsman
Yes, I agree with this entirely.
Even if they can, they shouldn't remove 1st party content.
As a side note, how did you indent that quote in your earlier response.
Re: Soapbox: PS Plus Might Be Gaming's Best Subscription Service Now
For me, PS Plus is orders of magnitude better.
I have had game pass for over 2 years. I can barely ever find anything I want to play there. When my sub expires, I won't be renewing.
With PS plus, I have a backlog of interesting games available to me.
There are a few reasons for the difference in my case.
That being said, there are still things I would like to see Sony improve on. The biggest ones are:
Re: 32 Games Will Be Taken Off PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Month
I get that Sony has contracts with publishers to keep games on the service for a fixed time and when that time ends the games need to leave the service.
What is their excuse for removing Sony published games from the service?
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for April 2023 Announced
Looks like a pretty reasonable lineup. I already own sackboy and nothing else really exciting for me but seems satisfactory.
Re: Talking Point: Is 2024 Too Soon for PS5 Pro?
I think there is a market for a PS5 Pro but it will not be for everyone.
I think it will not be about resolution, it will be about support for more ray-tracing. As ray-tracing becomes increasingly baked into future titles as is likely to happen with ray-traced lightning, there will be people who are willing to pay for better performance/visuals.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for March 2023?
Nothing here for me either.
Hopefully next month is better.
Re: Assassin's Creed Syndicate Patch Will Finally Fix PS5 Flickering Issue Tomorrow
I think that both Unity and Syndicate are completely underrated as they exist today.
The launch challenges with these games were totally unacceptable(Especially Unity) but these days both are great experiences.
Re: Assassin's Creed Syndicate Patch Will Finally Fix PS5 Flickering Issue Tomorrow
This is great news! I had more or less given up on this.
The PS4 Pro/PS5 is the best console platform to play Syndicate on.
I might be able to retire my PS4 soon.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for February 2023?
Nothing here for me this month. Could be better I think.
Of course, it is still vastly better than anything GwG has to offer so I can't be too disappointed.
Overall, I am still pleased with the service.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for January 2023?
@FatalBubbles I think that is a pretty fair comment.
Since I started not buying games on release, my gaming spend has dropped dramatically based on how the game market works for most publishers these days. As a result, I also don't get sucked into the new game hype and it saves me from buying some games altogether.
PS+ Extra is a great way for me to play those games that would otherwise be on the bubble for me. However, if I bought all the games I was interested in when they first came out, I probably wouldn't have much to play on the service.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for January 2023?
There is nothing terribly exciting for me this month on extra. But I still think it is a pretty good selection.
As for premium, I guess it isn't the worst month we have seen but that doesn't make it good.
Sadly, I continue to think the free demos are the best part of premium.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for January 2023?
There is nothing here I need/want but I still think it is a great selection.
Re: Two PS Plus Extra Games Patched to Run Properly on PS5
I briefly thought that I was going to hear they finally but fixed Syndicate but, alas, it was not to be.
While it is good that the Chronicles titles were fixed, I wish they could get Syndicate working on PS5. I literally keep my PS4 Pro around just for this title.
It seems likely Ubisoft has determined it is not worth the effort.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for November 2022?
There is nothing particularly interesting for me this month but there are still good games from prior months I haven't gotten to yet so I am still satisfied overall.
Re: Poll: Do You Care About 60fps on PS5?
I am firmly in the depends crowd.
For me, it depends on 2 things.
1. The game itself, not all games heavily benefit from 60fps.
2. What the compromises would be. Often 60fps can be obtained with minor compromises such as RT being disabled or minor resolution compromises. However, I don't want to play at 720p to achieve 60fps.
Re: Poll: Will You Buy the DualSense Edge PS5 Controller, Now We Have a Price?
@gavin_is_gavin Me too. $150 would be the most I would pay.
Re: Trio of PS Plus Assassin's Creed Games Won't Be Playable on PS5
@KidBoruto From the outside, it isn't clear to me who should be responsible for fixing it to be honest.
The game works as-designed on PS4, the platform Ubisoft made it for. It feels like the fact that it doesn't work on PS5 should be Sony's problem as much as Ubisoft's.
Since they seemed to have been working on it and have made other changes to enhance Assassin's Creed games for 60fps I am guessing it turned out to be more investment than they were willing to spend to make it work on PS5.
Either way, it is disappointing.
Re: Trio of PS Plus Assassin's Creed Games Won't Be Playable on PS5
The chronicles games are no big loss but it is a shame they won't/can't fix Syndicate. Outside of PC, PS4 is the best Syndicate experience. It is one of the reasons I still have a PS4 connected to my TV even though I have a PS5.
Re: Talking Point: Is Assassin's Creed Moving in the Right Direction?
I think it too soon to say. It actually sounds pretty great on paper.
Different experiences for different audiences.
It will depend on the details and the execution. For the former, we have no information yet. For the latter, we will have to wait and see.
Re: Reaction: PS5 Price Hike a Sobering Sign of the Times
Sony exists to make as much money for it's shareholders as possible. It isn't a public service.
With the state of supply and demand during the pandemic, they could have launched the console with a price a $700 and they would have sold just as many units. But....they didn't.
If the executives didn't increase prices and simply allowed profits to fall as costs increased they would all lose their jobs. Especially in a market where costs for everything else is increasing.
The PS5 is a luxury item to begin with. Nobody needs one.
Re: Get a Floating Magic Wand in the Hogwarts Legacy Collector's Edition
I guess that is probably geared more towards collectors than game players. $300 is fairly steep but only a little more than similar collections for other games.
Re: PS Plus Extra Games for August 2022 Available to Download Now
@dancingmind I won't stop buying games. I am probably different than some others in this regard. Since I have a tendency to replay games I am still likely to buy the games I genuinely enjoy.
However, playing it and having it available via PS Plus gives me the freedom to try it and find out if it is worth buying. It also provides the flexibility to wait until the price drops to something I am more comfortable with.
Re: PS Plus Extra Games for August 2022 Available to Download Now
I am surprisingly impressed with PS Plus extra so far. I have been a game pass subscriber for over a year and while there is lots of content, there has been exactly one game I have wanted to play that I didn't already own.
Withe extra, there is already more than one game on the service I am interested in and since the service is new they are adding games to it at a pretty reasonable pace. I don't mind the fact that they are slowly adding games every month.
But, yes, premium is a joke unless you use the streaming side of it.
Re: PS Plus Premium, Deluxe Subscribers Bemused by August Update
Sadly, the playable demos seem to be the best feature of the premium tier.
My upgrade to premium cost me $5.88/yr and I am not sure it was worth it.......
Re: Half of All Recent PS5 Sales Bundled with Horizon Forbidden West in UK
To be clear, I don't think that most people are saying that HFW is a bad game. I just think the statement that it is responsible for driving sales or that people prefer that bundle is silly. People are being forced to buy the game whether they want it or not in a bundle because that is how Sony is choosing to sell the PS5 right now. The PS5 sales have nothing to do with HFW, they are selling every unit they can make.
None of that makes a HFW a bad game.
Re: Half of All Recent PS5 Sales Bundled with Horizon Forbidden West in UK
"Why is nobody happy that the PS5 outsold series X/S in July, regardless of bundles? More PS5 console sales than Xbox should be a good thing?"
@PSme Two reasons:
1. Console sales right now have nothing to do with demand, both consoles are selling every unit they can make.
2. Is one console selling more than another really something to celebrate?
Re: Half of All Recent PS5 Sales Bundled with Horizon Forbidden West in UK
" The official bundle from Sony has proven incredibly popular in the region"
It is popular because people don't have a choice. Either get the bundle or get nothing.
This is Sony pumping a bit of extra money out of the customer.
Re: Press X for Trophies Is a Sad Indictment of PS5, PS4 Today
I fail to see how this is even a problem. If someone want to buy a bunch of meaningless trophies, let them.
It has no meaningful impact on anyone other than the person doing it.
Re: Poll: Did You Ever Use PS5 Accolades?
Not even once.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy With Your PS Plus Essential Games for August 2022?
This is a solid month. Two legit and somewhat recent AAA titles.
It has been a while since we have seen a month this good.
Re: Sony Fixes Final Fantasy 7 Remake Intergrade PS Plus Issues
Yes. It is fixed here as well!
Seems like they figured it out.
Re: Sony Remains Silent on Final Fantasy 7 Remake Intergrade PS Plus Issues
@RSX901 I mean "I don't own it" in the sense that I claimed the PS4 version on PSPlus the same as many others but I don't own the PS5 intergrade version.
Re: Sony Remains Silent on Final Fantasy 7 Remake Intergrade PS Plus Issues
The article state to take a screenshot of the error.
Is there an error people are getting? For me, there is just no option to download it.
Re: Sony Remains Silent on Final Fantasy 7 Remake Intergrade PS Plus Issues
Yes, hugely disappointing.
This is actually one of the few games on PS Plus Extra that I want to play and don't already own. But I can't......