Is it just me or is there this sort of weird hate going on towards sony for no reason right now. I miss the more open communication days of PS4 but this is getting ridiculous. Everything they do or don't do seems to get hated. The whole helldivers psn thing, when literally so many others do it without much backlash, freaking Astro winning goty, the intergalactic reveal, etc. where is this coming from?
I wish they had revealed a bit more. It looks kinda generic without more details. We have a ship, we seem to be like a bounty hunter type, etc. Though to be fair i guess that's how the recent Naughty dog ips have looked, Uncharted was called dude raider while Tlou looked like a generic zombie game. Lets see how it looks the next time they drop some details.
@LifeGirl seriously it's ridiculous. I still use the 20th anniversary theme on my PS4. Honestly how they didn't see the backlash coming is beyond me, just how out of touch are the executives at sony nowadays. Maybe they will allow this and then be all, " see we listen to feed back".
@themightyant dunno about all that but "Ananta" quite literally means "without an end". "Ant" or how english speakers call it "Anta" literally means end while the "An" here is simply used to denote lack of what follows it kinda like in "unimportant". So "without an end", "endless" or "infinite". It does annoys me how english speakers add the "a" at the end of words for no reason, it always sounds so silly.
I don't mind that it's basic concept is similar to Horizon. What rubs me the wrong way is just how far they went to make sure it looks as close to Horizon as possible. Like you can make a tribal robot animal hunting game without it looking so similar to Horizon. Come on.
My biggest problem with Ubi has been their willingness to just leave the defining elements of thier franchises Behind way to easily. Now I am a huge AC fan. I love all the older games. In my opinion those games offered something that nothing else in the industry did. Their biggest issue was Ubi releasing those games way too close to each other thus there not being many changes from entry to entry but taken as a whole the AC franchise was very unique. If you wanted to play something like AC the only real option was AC. Now it's just another RPG. Why would I bother playing a mediocre version of that when there are countless better ones out there? What exactly does the AC franchise offers now that I can't find elsewhere? They still don't seem to have learned their lesson, talking about how they want to go for the broadest appeal possible, well more of the same is gonna happen in that case.
I could understand remasters as a concept last gen with the different architecture and lack of BC so I was hoping that this gen will kill them off for goo, especially the PS4 to PS5 ones, but here we are. Remakes of games from PS3 and before I can still stomach since they often look and feel very different but who really is asking for remasters of PS4 games?
@Ralizah absolutely can't wait to play it and Horizon Zero Dawn definitive remastered edition especially since poor sony doesn't have any IPs apart from tlou and Horizon.
Ngl I hope that they delay the next generation untill like 2029, so that some actual games actually release for the PS5 and so that the PS6 can have a much higher performance difference to the PS5 pro than it would of they launch in 2027.
@get2sammyb yeah this is the thing with all the reactions I am seeing everywhere. I 100% agree that this thing is ridiculously priced, especially in Europe, but people acting like they have to pay 800 or 900 $/£/€ for a PS5 now or that this is supposed to be a successor to the PS5 is just silly to me. I do fear what it implies for the PS6 but we'll see when that happens.
What a bizzare thing to say. No problem with creating new ips but this is just ridiculous in terms of playstation. PS has so many ips from so many different genres that they can easily create a bunch of lower budget titles with those instead of splooging all over the live service bandwagon or even the very high budget cinematic third person games, I like these ones but variety is clearly the way to go.
This is the way. Sony needs to focus on these smaller and shorter titles to fill the calander, it would also bring in a great variety in terms of genres and ips. Maybe revive some older ips with smaller budgets or maybe bring something completely new. It's less risk while at the same time, one of those games blowing up and becoming a darling is high reward.
Is it really surprising that this happened. People have been saying for years that this whole development of 10 live service games was dumb. In a time when they should have been doubling down on a variety of single player titles they are floundering right here. Just watch as these other live service games crash and burn. The fact that they decided to release this game, who nobody wanted, while cancelling Factions that was actually anticipated on the words of Bungie, who are also struggling, should tell you enough.
@CielloArc but just how more work would it be to just release it on PS5 anyway. What would they lose? Especially since it's by a section of sony anyway.
Now if they would only give us a next gen game built from the ground up with the unity style Parkour in mind. Just imagine how awesome, an actual polished version of those mechanics would be.
The PS4 pro was launched in 2016, about three years after the launch of the PS4 and we are already in the fourth year of PS5 and if, as sony said, we are past the peak sales of PS5 then if this PS5 pro gets pushed into 2025, what's the point of launching it. A PS6 would be in 2027 following the gap in the last 3 generations. Why bother when they themselves don't think that PS5 overall will have higher sales than before.
I wish sony were to start developing more AA games like they used to. There is always a chance for a cult success in those. Seriously though Naughty Dog needs to release something, the generation is more than half done and nothing from them.
I don't understand why is this even a topic of discussion. Not everything needs to be for everyone. It doesn't matter what anyone else think about accessibility, if the creator feels that providing those options tarnishes the artistic integrity, so be it. It's also not as straight forward implementing these options as people think it is especially when you want everything to gel well together. Just turning down hit boxes and life bars and whatnot is such a lazy way of doing it to begin with.
I always find the "reward outweighs the risk line" coming from executives. Of course they do, since they aren't taking them. If it fails the ones to take the fall is the devs.
I wouldn't be surprised if most of those cancelled games were the live service games. Almost all the ps studios seemed to be working on at least one. If this is the case then I can't help but say good riddance. A ***** situation either way though.
Honestly I hope this the live service game Sony has been looking for so they can stop throwing money at these kinds of projects in the future. I hope they realise that only so many of these types of games can succeed.
I know it takes a long time to develop games nowadays but naughty dogs output this generation has been disappointing. Literally nothing new to show more than 3 years into the console cycle.
I don't get it, they went through all this trouble with the governments and whatnot regarding the exclusivity, only to then release thier games on PlayStation anyway. I mean saying they were gonna do this back during those hearings would've really helped them.
I can only assume that the numbers for the whole Xbox division were disappointing to them or something, because there is clearly a shift in their act.
@GuyInDirtyShirt yeah I know but overhauling the whole ps5 gt7 campaign would mean different campaigns on ps4 and ps5. Effectively two different single player experiences. I am sure if pd wants to have that kind of differentiation because so far all the ps5 only stuff is additive.
@TrickyDicky99 i understand that but wouldn't implementing in the whole single player mean changing how the whole campaign progresses, since it's all built around the old ai. Also this a cross gen game, so maybe they might not be comfortable with revamping the whole sp just for the current gen players. I feel like this will properly be implemented only in the next game.
Honestly Sony deserves this. Literally nobody wanted these live service games and they kept jamming them down our throats.
You guys kept saying how those games don't take resources away from the sp games. Well we'll see if that turns out to be the case now do we. We don't even have mid budget Sony games to bulk up the line up anymore this generation. The next few years are gonna be intriguing.
Seriously they talk about how single player are their bread and butter and will be the focus and all that but all we got from them in terms of first party were ....... A few gaas titles cinematics and gameplay for the only major single player game everyone knows about.
Now I know that they have a lot of single player stuff in the oven but to show off to all the detractors and show your commitment to those sp games they bring this. Lip service can only take you so far.
I really hope the redesign is smaller. I finally physically saw a ps5 at a friend's house and boy, the thing's a beast. I had known it was big but it was far bigger than i was expecting, no way will it fit in my setup. I hope they shrink it down to about the original ps4 size somehow.
@cragis0001 dude playstation was not a thing when sony bought them, so no ***** they had no first party titles. The first ps came out in 1994 and they bought them in 93. How the hell are these situations comparable. People conveniently forget that xbox has been around for more than 20 years. Nd, suckerpunch, santa Mónica, London, japan, media molecule and a bunch of second party studios were a thing when ps was 20 years old.
@cragis0001 really you are comparing psygnosis to actiblizz. Not only that but also a purchase made when playstation was not even a thing to when xbox has been around for over 20 years and still have no first party to show for it so now they go out and buy a publisher.
@eduscxbox correct ms's hypocrisy. The director literally said that the game was coming to ps but ms scrapped it. Tbh if ms was upfront about it i wouldn't even mind this for Bethesda but no they gotta pretend to be these savior of gamers to appease the govts.
@cragis0001 you are delusion if you truly believe that ms buying actiblizz and Bethesda is in any way even close to what sony has ever done. Like do you even realise how big that actiblizz deal is. 70 billion. That's almost twice of what nvidia was gonna pay for arm. Ridiculous that you can put them on the same level.
Wasn't this the case before as well since they were developing uc3 and tlou simultaneously. I do hope that this news means that nd's output increases a bit.
SE has been one of those companies that just feels so out of touch with these bizzare decisions be it releasing games in a way that they caniballise each other or be it just insane expectations for games and not understanding the market for them.
Honestly if Sony does plans to acquire them, it's better to wait for these blockchain games to crash and burn first and then pull the trigger.
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Re: Helldivers 2 Dev Arrowhead Takes Blame for Killzone Pricing Blunder
Is it just me or is there this sort of weird hate going on towards sony for no reason right now. I miss the more open communication days of PS4 but this is getting ridiculous. Everything they do or don't do seems to get hated. The whole helldivers psn thing, when literally so many others do it without much backlash, freaking Astro winning goty, the intergalactic reveal, etc. where is this coming from?
Re: Naughty Dog's New PS5 Game Is Finally Announced, Sci-Fi Action Title Intergalactic
I wish they had revealed a bit more. It looks kinda generic without more details. We have a ship, we seem to be like a bounty hunter type, etc. Though to be fair i guess that's how the recent Naughty dog ips have looked, Uncharted was called dude raider while Tlou looked like a generic zombie game. Lets see how it looks the next time they drop some details.
Re: PS5 Users Are Begging for Themes, PS1 Startup Screen to Stay
@LifeGirl seriously it's ridiculous. I still use the 20th anniversary theme on my PS4. Honestly how they didn't see the backlash coming is beyond me, just how out of touch are the executives at sony nowadays. Maybe they will allow this and then be all, " see we listen to feed back".
Re: Massively Promising PS5 Gacha Project Mugen Renamed Ananta
@themightyant dunno about all that but "Ananta" quite literally means "without an end". "Ant" or how english speakers call it "Anta" literally means end while the "An" here is simply used to denote lack of what follows it kinda like in "unimportant". So "without an end", "endless" or "infinite". It does annoys me how english speakers add the "a" at the end of words for no reason, it always sounds so silly.
Re: Anime GTA-Style Game, Confirmed for PS5, Is Now Being Tested by Chinese Players
I am sick of gacha games
Re: Horizon Rip-Off Light of Motiram Will Actually Come to PS5
I don't mind that it's basic concept is similar to Horizon. What rubs me the wrong way is just how far they went to make sure it looks as close to Horizon as possible. Like you can make a tribal robot animal hunting game without it looking so similar to Horizon. Come on.
Re: Infinity Ward's Turn in 2026, Sledgehammer Games in 2027, Says Call of Duty Insider
Wait. Weren't they going to stop the yearly releases after the MS buyout?
Re: Fans Appear to Be Coming Around to PS5 Pro
I just hope the PS6 isn't this expensive.
Re: Ubisoft Board Orders Internal Investigation and Review into Company's Financial Woes
My biggest problem with Ubi has been their willingness to just leave the defining elements of thier franchises Behind way to easily. Now I am a huge AC fan. I love all the older games. In my opinion those games offered something that nothing else in the industry did. Their biggest issue was Ubi releasing those games way too close to each other thus there not being many changes from entry to entry but taken as a whole the AC franchise was very unique. If you wanted to play something like AC the only real option was AC. Now it's just another RPG. Why would I bother playing a mediocre version of that when there are countless better ones out there? What exactly does the AC franchise offers now that I can't find elsewhere? They still don't seem to have learned their lesson, talking about how they want to go for the broadest appeal possible, well more of the same is gonna happen in that case.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
I could understand remasters as a concept last gen with the different architecture and lack of BC so I was hoping that this gen will kill them off for goo, especially the PS4 to PS5 ones, but here we are. Remakes of games from PS3 and before I can still stomach since they often look and feel very different but who really is asking for remasters of PS4 games?
Re: PS6 Is Already Deep in Development, Backwards Compatibility of High Importance
@Ralizah absolutely can't wait to play it and Horizon Zero Dawn definitive remastered edition especially since poor sony doesn't have any IPs apart from tlou and Horizon.
Re: PS6 Is Already Deep in Development, Backwards Compatibility of High Importance
Ngl I hope that they delay the next generation untill like 2029, so that some actual games actually release for the PS5 and so that the PS6 can have a much higher performance difference to the PS5 pro than it would of they launch in 2027.
Re: Roughly 50 Games Ready for PS5 Pro Launch with Dedicated Patches
@get2sammyb yeah this is the thing with all the reactions I am seeing everywhere. I 100% agree that this thing is ridiculously priced, especially in Europe, but people acting like they have to pay 800 or 900 $/£/€ for a PS5 now or that this is supposed to be a successor to the PS5 is just silly to me. I do fear what it implies for the PS6 but we'll see when that happens.
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Add an Ultra HD Disc Drive to PS5 Pro
Ngl, it's pretty pathetic that they couldn't even include a disk drive when they are charging 700 and more for it.
Re: Sony Execs Seem to Think the Company Doesn't Have Enough Original IP
What a bizzare thing to say. No problem with creating new ips but this is just ridiculous in terms of playstation. PS has so many ips from so many different genres that they can easily create a bunch of lower budget titles with those instead of splooging all over the live service bandwagon or even the very high budget cinematic third person games, I like these ones but variety is clearly the way to go.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Is the Best Game of the Year So Far
This is the way. Sony needs to focus on these smaller and shorter titles to fill the calander, it would also bring in a great variety in terms of genres and ips. Maybe revive some older ips with smaller budgets or maybe bring something completely new. It's less risk while at the same time, one of those games blowing up and becoming a darling is high reward.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation Needs to Take a Long, Hard Look at Itself
Is it really surprising that this happened. People have been saying for years that this whole development of 10 live service games was dumb. In a time when they should have been doubling down on a variety of single player titles they are floundering right here. Just watch as these other live service games crash and burn. The fact that they decided to release this game, who nobody wanted, while cancelling Factions that was actually anticipated on the words of Bungie, who are also struggling, should tell you enough.
Re: Sony Subsidiary Aniplex Ignores PS5 for Fate/Stay Night Remastered
@CielloArc but just how more work would it be to just release it on PS5 anyway. What would they lose? Especially since it's by a section of sony anyway.
Re: Assassin's Creed Protagonist Infiltrates Paris 2024 Olympics Opening Ceremony
Now if they would only give us a next gen game built from the ground up with the unity style Parkour in mind. Just imagine how awesome, an actual polished version of those mechanics would be.
Re: Doubt Cast Over PS5 Pro Actually Releasing This Year
The PS4 pro was launched in 2016, about three years after the launch of the PS4 and we are already in the fourth year of PS5 and if, as sony said, we are past the peak sales of PS5 then if this PS5 pro gets pushed into 2025, what's the point of launching it. A PS6 would be in 2027 following the gap in the last 3 generations. Why bother when they themselves don't think that PS5 overall will have higher sales than before.
Re: PlayStation Studios: All Sony First-Party Developers and What They're Working On
I wish sony were to start developing more AA games like they used to. There is always a chance for a cult success in those. Seriously though Naughty Dog needs to release something, the generation is more than half done and nothing from them.
Re: Helldivers 2 Director Defends Elden Ring Difficulty: 'Always Cater to a Select Audience'
I don't understand why is this even a topic of discussion. Not everything needs to be for everyone. It doesn't matter what anyone else think about accessibility, if the creator feels that providing those options tarnishes the artistic integrity, so be it. It's also not as straight forward implementing these options as people think it is especially when you want everything to gel well together. Just turning down hit boxes and life bars and whatnot is such a lazy way of doing it to begin with.
Re: Embracer Claims Newly Adopted AI Policy Will 'Massively Enhance Game Development'
I always find the "reward outweighs the risk line" coming from executives. Of course they do, since they aren't taking them. If it fails the ones to take the fall is the devs.
Re: Yes, the Next Madden on PS5, PS4 Is Called Madden NFL 25 Again
Should've called it the new one Madden nfl 14
Re: Rumour: Assassin's Creed Red Is Starting to Sound a Lot Like Valhalla
Welp Guess I won't bother with this one then.
Re: Unannounced Games from PlayStation Studios Have Been Cancelled
I wouldn't be surprised if most of those cancelled games were the live service games. Almost all the ps studios seemed to be working on at least one. If this is the case then I can't help but say good riddance. A ***** situation either way though.
Re: Poor Suicide Squad Sales Disappoint Publisher Warner Bros
Gee what a surprise, I wonder why it didn't sell well. /s
Re: Helldivers 2 (PS5) - The Best Co-Op Shooter on PS5
Honestly I hope this the live service game Sony has been looking for so they can stop throwing money at these kinds of projects in the future. I hope they realise that only so many of these types of games can succeed.
Re: Sounds Like Naughty Dog's Next Game Won't Be The Last of Us 3
I know it takes a long time to develop games nowadays but naughty dogs output this generation has been disappointing. Literally nothing new to show more than 3 years into the console cycle.
Re: Rumour: A PS5 Remake of Uncharted: Drake's Fortune Is Possibly on the Cards
Have they completely run out ideas. Honestly I am getting quite sick of remakes, especially for games that are already available on that platform.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Console Exclusive Starfield Is Setting a Course for PS5
I don't get it, they went through all this trouble with the governments and whatnot regarding the exclusivity, only to then release thier games on PlayStation anyway. I mean saying they were gonna do this back during those hearings would've really helped them.
I can only assume that the numbers for the whole Xbox division were disappointing to them or something, because there is clearly a shift in their act.
Re: Ubisoft Is Committing to a Full Year of Skull and Bones Content
Lol, sure ubisoft sure.
Re: Gran Turismo 7's New Advanced PS5 AI Could Change Racing Games Forever
@GuyInDirtyShirt yeah I know but overhauling the whole ps5 gt7 campaign would mean different campaigns on ps4 and ps5. Effectively two different single player experiences. I am sure if pd wants to have that kind of differentiation because so far all the ps5 only stuff is additive.
Re: Gran Turismo 7's New Advanced PS5 AI Could Change Racing Games Forever
@TrickyDicky99 i understand that but wouldn't implementing in the whole single player mean changing how the whole campaign progresses, since it's all built around the old ai. Also this a cross gen game, so maybe they might not be comfortable with revamping the whole sp just for the current gen players. I feel like this will properly be implemented only in the next game.
Re: Interest in Destiny 2 Reportedly at an All-Time Low
It's about time they switched it up a bit. Perhaps make a single player game in the same world as destiny or something.
Re: PS5 Slim Doesn't Come with a Vertical Stand, Needs to Be Bought Separately
Just what is wrong with sony nowadays.
Re: Turns Out EA Sports May Never Have Needed FIFA After All
Of course they needed it to get well known. Now though it doesn't matter.
Re: PlayStation's Push for Live Service Games Hasn't Been Going Smoothly
Honestly Sony deserves this. Literally nobody wanted these live service games and they kept jamming them down our throats.
You guys kept saying how those games don't take resources away from the sp games. Well we'll see if that turns out to be the case now do we. We don't even have mid budget Sony games to bulk up the line up anymore this generation. The next few years are gonna be intriguing.
Re: Reaction: Sony Flubs First Proper PS5 Presentation in Over 18 Months
Seriously they talk about how single player are their bread and butter and will be the focus and all that but all we got from them in terms of first party were ....... A few gaas titles cinematics and gameplay for the only major single player game everyone knows about.
Now I know that they have a lot of single player stuff in the oven but to show off to all the detractors and show your commitment to those sp games they bring this. Lip service can only take you so far.
Re: Sony Patent Adds Weight to PS5 Redesign Rumours
I really hope the redesign is smaller. I finally physically saw a ps5 at a friend's house and boy, the thing's a beast. I had known it was big but it was far bigger than i was expecting, no way will it fit in my setup. I hope they shrink it down to about the original ps4 size somehow.
Re: Vampire FPS Redfall Was in Development for PS5, But Was Canned After Xbox Buyout
@cragis0001 dude playstation was not a thing when sony bought them, so no ***** they had no first party titles. The first ps came out in 1994 and they bought them in 93. How the hell are these situations comparable. People conveniently forget that xbox has been around for more than 20 years. Nd, suckerpunch, santa Mónica, London, japan, media molecule and a bunch of second party studios were a thing when ps was 20 years old.
Re: Vampire FPS Redfall Was in Development for PS5, But Was Canned After Xbox Buyout
@cragis0001 really you are comparing psygnosis to actiblizz. Not only that but also a purchase made when playstation was not even a thing to when xbox has been around for over 20 years and still have no first party to show for it so now they go out and buy a publisher.
Re: Lords of the Fallen Looks Ridiculously Good on PS5
@Logonogo well what can I say. A loord must loord.
Re: Vampire FPS Redfall Was in Development for PS5, But Was Canned After Xbox Buyout
@eduscxbox correct ms's hypocrisy. The director literally said that the game was coming to ps but ms scrapped it. Tbh if ms was upfront about it i wouldn't even mind this for Bethesda but no they gotta pretend to be these savior of gamers to appease the govts.
Re: Vampire FPS Redfall Was in Development for PS5, But Was Canned After Xbox Buyout
@cragis0001 you are delusion if you truly believe that ms buying actiblizz and Bethesda is in any way even close to what sony has ever done. Like do you even realise how big that actiblizz deal is. 70 billion. That's almost twice of what nvidia was gonna pay for arm. Ridiculous that you can put them on the same level.
Re: Interview: Octopath Traveler 2 Devs on Series Goals, the First Game Skipping PlayStation, and More
So from the looks of things the first one will also come to ps just a bit later. Great 👍.
Re: Talking Point: Is 2024 Too Soon for PS5 Pro?
What we need right now is not a ps5 pro but banger after banger taking advantage of the ps5 itself.
Re: The Last of Us' Naughty Dog Already Working on Next PS5 Exclusive
Wasn't this the case before as well since they were developing uc3 and tlou simultaneously. I do hope that this news means that nd's output increases a bit.
Re: Surprise! Forspoken and Other Square Enix Games Didn't Meet Sales Expectations
SE has been one of those companies that just feels so out of touch with these bizzare decisions be it releasing games in a way that they caniballise each other or be it just insane expectations for games and not understanding the market for them.
Honestly if Sony does plans to acquire them, it's better to wait for these blockchain games to crash and burn first and then pull the trigger.
Re: Japanese PS5 Hardware May Be Being Sent Overseas, Explaining Soft Software Sales
I feel like part of the sales might also be due to upcoming games like ffxvi. Sort of like a pre buying.