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whatever, I think the PS4 is awesome. Better than Xbox One imo.

I want to eat that cake

I honestly think this is a forever work in progress, the game will never get done.

you mean a 1TB sku?

They should be releasing this all over Europe. wtf?

@thedevilsjester It's pretty clear this system isn't for you as you already have your mind set on cancelling it. Either way, there is always a downer no matter what Sony does. They could give away Fallout 4 on PS+ for free and there will still be "that guy". In this case, you are that guy.

@HeroOfCybertron It turns into a Psfourasaurus

So basically, the game and network division is currently recouping the loss they are having at the moment, with a few hundred million profit. Okay, so even at a $2 billion loss, the profit is still $700 million if those numbers stay the same. They need to cut that fat to make that $2 billion turn around.

I kind of think Capcom is behind this, even though their name won't be on the box, I think they are more behind the scenes on this. He's doing exactly what Capcom would do, but this is a bit more tricky. Yea, Capcom is definitely behind this whole thing.

If they make a second watchdogs, I'll get it. I liked this game, watchdogs was solid.

Sammy, you make a good point here.

I kind of think this guy is looking for nothing more than free cash for the privilege of making the game. I doubt all of it will be used, I think he is going to pocket some of that. Be it illegal, I doubt anyone will know because all they'll see is the game, but not how much money actually went into it. This guy is like any other developer, always wanting more money before all is said and done. meh. I'm glade I didn't give this "gump" a cent.

If DICE is involved, I'm not that excited for it. They proved their incompetence with all of their Battlefield games that they released in an unfinished manner.

overpriced. Bungie is nothing more than a sellout. $200+ million my butt, whatever. I think they are full of crap. 10 years, pfffffffffffffffffft!

I'm very glad I traded this game in to get most of my money back. Such a disappointment and I gave the game the benefit of the doubt. Never again, Bungie is really a one trick pony and to even cut content from the original game to sell it for more money turns me off of bungie completely. I won't even get hyped for any more games with their name on it.

yep, they really choked on this game, a complete disaster. I was thinking of buying it, but I'm going to pass. They need to revamp that studio because this was a horrible mess that shouldn't have happened.

I believe it's suppose to feel dated, it's a retro RPG. o.O that's the whole point of retro. LOL

The fact that this Playstation TV doesn't even have netflix, it makes no sense and Sony basically created playstation TV, without the TV. LOL Time to fire some people.

@WARDIE in a way I agree with competition, but I don't think that is really the case in this situation. What we are witnessing right now is Sony trying to do a little to much at once which slows down other things. Now, I understand that people like the Vita, but I honestly don't blame Sony for the lack of interest in it. In my opinion, Sony should be looking at the 3 most important things for the PS4 right now which is of course the PS4, The Move, and VR.

I hated that Sony went with a handheld, I never liked the idea because it creates competition for their own console system. They tried to tie it with the PS4 as remote play, but I don't see it working that great. In this case I would agree with Sony to cut it's losses with the Vita as it is pretty late to kick it up at this point. I personally hate handhelds though, I don't mind tablet games, but never got into handheld games and I would hate playing something like CoD on a handheld, it isn't right. LOL

Besides that stuff though, competition between both Microsoft and Sony is okay, but like I Said, I think it's Sony having a bit to much on their plate which kind of creates a cluster@#$@ tangling mess of "whatever". They really need to streamline their ideas without doing to much. Playstation TV is just one more mess that is thrown in and it's half-arsed since it doesn't even support netflix. I like the idea, but it's executed poorly, this is the type of execution Sony needs to avoid. Whoever thought of executing the Playstation TV as it is right now should be fired because right now there is no room for incompetence. Sony can afford billions of more losses, they are still fine considering the amount they have saved up over the years, but they need to get rid of the rich swine and get people competent enough and bettering the company and the playstation brand at the same time as having passion for creating positives for the playstation brand. In shorter words, creating that fanbase they are wanting. PS4, Move, VR, PS TV, they have to get rid of PS TV or just release it in a more proper way with support.

I personally think they should push the Playstation TV back and release it a little bit later, like after the VR headset release. Coming out with stuff to fast you are going to compete against yourself and if it's to overwhelming people will just say @#$% it, it's to confusing. This happened with their HDTV's, they release 1080p, then they start talking 4k and people already forked over thousands for a new 1080p TV set, even I did.

Sometimes to much is to much, know what I mean vern.....

I'm wondering if this is more on Shawn Layden and not so much Kaz.

@Reverandjames There were atari games like that and some of them didn't end but kept getting harder.

Sony needs to stop doing this overpriced crap otherwise they are going to be right back to the PS3 which I hope never happens.

The issues were based on other branches of Sony, not playstation, but a loss is definitely a loss, however, the playstation side is doing quite good. I think what we are seeing here is patcher wanting Microsoft to get ahead. In any of his so called analysis, it's pretty clearly it's his want rather than an actual analysis.

@Gamer83 You show me a launch that was as big. Everything from Atari all the way to the PS4 and Xbox One never had an amazing launch in terms of games, it's never happened. People are forgetting the fact that all console launches have been pretty lame. The PS3 was the worst, the PS4 was by far better compared to other launches out there. High expectations plays a roll in this factor because people are becoming extremely impatient for those big hitters. I have yet to see a launch that matches that of a 3rd year console.

@rastamadeus If they mess things up all the time then blaming them is just fine and reasonable. It doesn't make things any better though and it never will, I was just pointing at that factor. Regardless though, it's everything including high expectations. But the people cheering for their platform are going to do a lot to try and make the other bad and it's usually the people on the defensive. I mean, go read some of those reviews. Ignore the score itself and just read them, it's just as bad as the score on some of them.

WIth that being said. The games really don't disappoint, it's just that people are wanting that Fallout 4 game or the next Skyrim which clearly isn't here yet nor have we heard about it. All it is, is people being impatient, the PS4 is rocking right now, but we all want those big games and it sucks that we don't have them, I get that. People do forget how console launches are and the PS4 launch was quite good compared to the PS1, PS2, and of course the PS3 which was an awful launch.

I really like this game. I would give it a 4/5.

I'm not really into racing games much, but I really do wish that this game supported logitech wheels as this is a racing game. I would probably play racing games more if I could get an awesome wheel for it.

@mitcHELLspawn what are you on about or did I happen to hit a magical nerve. You are honestly going to tell me that there isn't a console war and that bias doesn't happen at all in gaming? Sorry bub, but your so far out there if you can't even see that some sites are indeed bias as well as fanboys within Microsoft are in fact in huge defensive mode right now. If you can't see that, then I honestly don't know what to tell you. I'm just keeping it real here, there is no silver lining or little fluffy white clouds for god sakes.

Also, it does have to do with high expectations also, but I shouldn't have to say everything here, I think you are smart enough to figure this out, aren't you? as for my previous comments, we are in a playstation site here, I'm not dense by any means, I just understand what is going on.

Fanboy wars, console wars, review sites wanting more clicks, bias review sites (they are out there, it's not a secret), high expectations, low expectations etc etc. Both sides of course have bias to them. Your bias, if you say your not, you're a liar, there is a system that you side with the most and there isn't equality in this at all. You will always lean to one side more than the other, that's the reality and not padded lard like some try to make it.

I notice a huge problem with how you actually read things and take in things. You're a grump, geezes, I looked at your posting history you grump. O.O ROFL you just need to calm down.

nah, it's fine. What is happening and more so on Metacritic reviews and scores is we are seeing a huge console fanboy war. You have fanboys marking scores down, same goes with fanboy reviews. Honestly, no one can tell me that there aren't biased reviews going on here and while I see a lot of PS fanboys, there are A LOT of Xbox fanboys out there right now playing defense that also have buddies reviewing these other games for playstation while marking them down. To be honest, I see the majority of this happening on the defensive side of Xbox while with playstation is just comment after comment. Like I said before, the internet can sound like thousands of people when in reality it is probably only a dozen people that really don't like the game while the other dozen is really taking a crap on the games. 5 people creating accounts and voicing their opinions or bias can sound like 5,000 people.

Polygon is no stranger to being bias regardless if this or that game on playstation got a good score, it doesn't matter, bias is bias and if it walks like a talk and quacks like a duck, well, it's a freakin duck. Same can be applied to IGN as they want clicks and people to comment to create pop up commercializing profits. IGN has been known to really take sides with Microsoft and they do this to feed the console wars.

The closest you can get to watching unbiased reviews is to watch user reviews for those games created by a user and not some youtube video made by Giantbomb, IGN, or whoever else is quite known. You have to get the actual users/gamers reviews where they are actually playing the game while talking about it.

@Faruko I don't believe that for a second. I think it's just something that people say for the console their cheering for. It's not like Microsoft never created a monopoly before. To be perfectly honest, if Microsoft wasn't in the console business, I actually think it would be better for gamers. Sucks to hear I'm sure, but it is what it is.

It's really a good thing I traded this game in. All that content being cut actually surprises me and I really do hope that Bungie feels the impact for what they've done. They had such a great game when talking about it at E3 and they @#$#ed it. With the end results of Destiny, I will be very hesitant to purchase another game made by Bungie. Just think, that $200+ million budget and this is all they had to show for the base game is so freaking ridiculous. Honestly, I would be on a firing rampage in that company for these horrible decisions made. I would have to be mass producing walking papers. O.O

Here's the thing though, If Microsoft wants to keep throwing money, don't expect a new system next time as investors will talk and those are what counts in big business. Microsoft threw around money with the 360 and look how good that turned out. I hope Microsoft keeps tossing money around, because all they're doing is screwing themselves.

yeah, I played it on the PS3 and it was awesome, but I see no need for me to buy it again. Is the Definitive version equal to the PC? Because on the PC version, the city was loaded with signs and stuff like that, but in the PS3 version they took out a lot of that. I think this may have been half-@#$ed

I think all that content that was cut is to make it so you buy the expansions. They are trying to make the full game more expensive by doing it this way, which is most likely going to backfire as they probably will get lower than expected sales on those expansions. The base game sold a lot but of course that was hype.

I traded in Destiny to get my $43.50 back at least. ugh, it was a good game at the start, but even after lvl 24, it clearly has shown a lack of content in everything. For a game based on $250+ million dollar budget, it should have had much more content. I'm sure the expansions are going to be smaller compared to the base game, so for me, this was a good trade and Destiny won't be missed. In my eye's, Bungie is showing me they are nothing more than a one trick pony. I also remember Activision's Bobby Kotick saying how games should be more expensive and I think if you add the next two expansions to Destiny, that should have really been the base of the game right there. So basically you are paying close to $90 just for the base of the game when all is said and done.

So House is doing a voice in LBP :X

@crazykcarter nope, sounds more like wishful thinking there o.O

@get2sammyb really though, if you think about it, Driveclub is/was still a close to launch game, but it was pushed back a year. I think graphically the game looks good, control wise I heard no problems, it's a racing game so I really wonder what the agenda is with IGN and their half-@#$ score. I mean, it's the same website that scored Alien Isolation due to it being hard while playing it on hard o.O

I have to shy away from any website giving this game a 5 or 6 out of 10. That just seems like an agenda more than anything. Even though I haven't played it yet but I've watched live feeds, the game is solid. 8/10 seems more like a fair score. ROFL @ IGN 7.9, get the @#$% out of here IGN. o.O

900p or 1080p on the PS4, I'll still play the hell out of this game. With that being said, they really should do more on the PS4, meaning, if they can do 1080p/30fps, they should do it. There isn't a reason for those people at Ubisoft to be "paper pushing pansy's"

The rare loot system doesn't bother me at all, it's the lack of loot and the differences between loot, at the same time the lack of content all around the game. If it takes a week to get a few legendary pieces or even longer, that part doesn't bother me, but there just isn't enough in this game to keep me interested. It's very barebones imo, I was hoping for more but yea, I think this is the last time I get a game developed by bungie.

update: just traded in my Destiny and got $43.00 back o.O putting it on CoD, at least with that game I know what to expect.

I've always hated Paul in the Tekken series, I can't stand the character. ugh

Well, I'm quite not into the game anymore as from what they said during E3 most certainly doesn't match the final product. Now, they did say closer to release it's only 3 players per server or whatever, but they didn't say that during E3. The big turn around was near the release, however, I did ignore that part thinking the game would be awesome. While I did like the game when playing it, this is certainly not going to last even 2 years, no way in hell, there is just way to little content on the base game to be worth anything at all. I'm starting to think Bungie is nothing more than a one trick pony.

In the end, the game is good, but for the base game it's nothing more than butchered to make room for expansions to make more money, that's all this game is basically. Basically, after the 2 other expensions come out, that is what the base game should have been. With that being said, I'm trading this in on monday for getting at least $40 back and putting all that on another game.

Who cares about the rollover, I'm watching the driving part and it is looking awesome. Looks a lot better than forza. Also, I'll take another Burnout Paradise game over Forza.

All I know is that the online part on both LBP 1 & 2 when it released were the worst I've ever seen as the lag was rewinding and fastforwarding my character when playing with others, it was horrible and that problem was on both LBP games. I won't pre-order this game until I know for sure that problem is gone and to be quite honest, I don't think it is.

@Karltellis91 You can blame that season pass on Bobby Kotick from Activision. He stated a few times that he wanted to make games more expensive, but instead of just jacking up prices for activision games only, he decided to go with a stealth option of buying a season pass, so the game is a total of $90. Then the other game development companies followed that type of plan for games. Now I don't know of Activision was the first to put out those season passes, but he were the main company to make it stick out more.

In the end, for Call of Duty sake, I will buy the season pass because I know what I'm getting. It's the only game I will buy a season pass for. I won't do it for any other company. Since EA/DICE Battlefield series went to @#$%, I won't be getting that game anymore as Hardline looks more like DLC and the police thing on it doesn't make sense to what the game is actually designed for. CoD all the way for me, I like the CoD games.

I'm not really worried, this stuff does happen. You get things that are online, it's bound to happen at some point.

I want to buy this game, I really do, but in reality I'm not going to buy every game that is awesome that comes out. I'm quite sure this game isn't going to disappoint at all.

for racers I think Driveclub is going to be awesome. I would say my favorite open world racer is certainly not Forza, it's burnout paradise, that game was awesome.

I had this game on the PS4 and the servers were nothing more than a rubberband fest. Then a patch comes out and some EA employee's get on saying it's all fixed, so I read other users and the problem is still their. I really have no faith in the battlefield series anymore. Both EA and DICE as well as the other branch doing BF:Hardline have done nothing more than cheapen the series. yuck!

Sony needs to get on the ball with that. They should have added support for logitech steering wheels as well as others for the PS4 before this game came out. I understand there is still a lot on Sony's plate, but steering wheel support on the PS4 as well as Driveclub isn't that hard to do.