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Since playing the game I have gradually warmed to it. It's not great but it is slightly above average. I have a feeling the end game will be a slog but the basic game and story has held my attention so far and I think I am halfway through.

This time of year I bet a lot of kids play cards with the family. Report them all to social services. They are not old enough to play these games. Get them on their phones ASAP so they can spend their parents' money.

People are still buying the game despite it not winning Game of the Year. Why aren't they buying Astro Bot instead? It's almost like the award is fairly pointless in the grand scheme of things.

@nomither6 Let's see if he is still on the same horse in 12 months time.

Still need to finish the series on the Vita. Got about half way through the second one ages ago and just haven't gone back.

Considering I bought Forspoken for a tenner, it was only a matter of time before it came to PS Plus.

The fact that browsing the web is easier on Xbox makes this statistic even more amusing.

@Barryburton97 Fat Bottomed Girls.

A certain Queen song springs to mind.

Why do they do a wrap up in December? Does it include last December or does your December gaming end up in a void feeding the PlayStation monster who will come.and devour us all before the PS6 arrives?

If you would rather watch more than play wouldn't that mean you are primarily a watcher rather than a gamer?

I still have my original PS1 in the box from 28 years ago. The box is a bit battered and not sure if it still works but remember getting it in a bundle from Toys R Us for an early Xmas present back in the day.

@JustCameHereToSay Microsoft probably will do it as they are less concerned with co soles these days and more with Game Pass. It's the people who will feel that their 100s of hours on the game on Xbox has been a waste of time as it is no longer the best version despite being the only console version at the time they played it.

@JustCameHereToSay If it does turn up I can't see PSVR2 support but can see them adding Pro support. That would ruffle a few feathers for those that get upset by such things though.

@JustCameHereToSay So you now only play PS5 Pro patched games or PSVR2 games is what I was really asking?
I still play PS4 games on my PS5 and will do the same on the PS6 if Sony let me. Too many good games locked to previous gens to miss out because they aren't up to current standards. Just my opinion of course.

@JustCameHereToSay Is that for all games or just this particular one that you have that stipulation for?
If it came out 6 months ago would you have played it on a regular PS5 or would the lack of VR have stopped you in that instance?

Will it make the Bloodborne remaster happen any quicker?

The number is conveniently round as I assume they made 5 million more units in that final year and they were all shipped out to retailers so I can't see them raising the number again unless they forgot about that other factory that made a few million units.

I got the 30% off continuing Premium sub and mine current one doesn't lapse until 24th Feb next year. With discounted credit it cost me just over £73 for the year. Not sure why I got the offer but I'll take it.

They should have done DLC for the PS5 Pro and then released part 3 with DLC to follow for the PS6.

The problem with price cuts so close to launch is that, if the general public are aware, they may struggle to sell any at full price in future. More tine on sale at a discounted price than full price will not do them any favours.

Stupid skins or trophies/achievements are the only reason I change the default skins. I would never pay for them though.

@JokerBoy322 I've already saved myself £700 from not purchasing the Pro so I already have 7% of the price saved.

I'll wait and run it on the PS6 then.

We barely started the PS5 era with the PS4 lurking in the background. Maybe with a new iteration we can finally leave the 11 year old wedge behind.

If I played Fortnite I would want to deck out my character in Primark gear for 200 V Bucks and that would be the end of my spending. No one can see what I was wearing after they have killed me anyway.

Now I know Empire of Ants is being enhanced for the PS5 Pro I will be selling my kid's organs to get the Pro.

Probably so they can charge more for the Pro plates compared to the slim. If you can afford the console you can afford an extra tenner on the plates think Sony.

@Strikke Definitely Square being Square. They could have let them make a Forspoken or Balan Wonderworld episode.

At least we will still have the episode about it on Amazon later this year.

I got caught up in the hype and picked the game up and played for about 30-40 mins and gave up. I may give it another go after the update but I think this game is not for me.

@CurryPowderKeg79 Polyphia did a song called GOAT.

Ooh had a comment removed for using too obvious of an example. I'll use a less obvious one this time. Just saying that you are your own worst critic or you blow your own trumpet way too much. I prefer people of the former. We had a lad at school who my mate called "dogs b******s" because he thought he was all that and more.
Back to Bloober's games and I think their games are not bad prior to Silent Hill 2 myself.

Complain if it gets DLC and complain if it doesn't. You can't win on the internet.

Be interesting to know what percentage of Pro purchasers also buy the disc drive. I would think the person who buys the top tier console is the sort of person that has a bit of a physical collection.

The abysmal brigade from the polls on here have moved on to Wikipedia. What's in their sites next? Trying to take over the world?

@AgentGuapo I am not disputing that but if you are travelling at 100 mph you are not really taking in the scenery around you.
If it played PS3 games natively I would be there day one but for shiner games that I won't really notice unless I pause the game doesn't really justify the outlay for me. Each to their own though..I'll wait for a PS6 and hope there is more to it than just flashier graphics and exclusives to get me on board straight away.

@AgentGuapo No one is doubting it is better but is almost double the cost better? I understand the 60 FPS but if you are playing a game requiring lightning reactions that really benefits from the frame rate are you really stopping to look how shiny it all looks.

@idiotthechef Andor was very good and I preferred Rebels over the other animated series. The rest has been pretty meh although the books and comics I have read have generally been better.
I enjoyed Fallen Order but Survivor was just too much of the same for me. I will play Outlaws when they have fixed the game and all the content is done. If they shipped complete games day one I may be more inclined to purchase day one.

The Star Wars label does not immediately grant sales like it used to. The general decreasing quality of the Disney output doesn't help either.

The pleasure we can take from this is that scalpers are going to be out of pocket if they snapped some up hoping to make money.

@Shalooda For me this gen has been about the load times. That was the main reason for the upgrade as the exclusives themselves are rather limited. The DualSense is a nice bonus. The PS6 needs to justify its price with more that just graphics and frame rates to justify a price that high. A disc drive for starters and if it can play all your old discs for PS5, PS4 as well as PS3 then I would be there day 1 for a higher price than the PS5 Pro.

I think the investment in this for the 3-4 years before it is replaced by the PS6 don't really justify the outlay for me. The second hand market for these will be weak unless the cost of the PS6 is ridiculous and not backwards compatible.

I will wait until the PS6 in a few years. They will probably stop making games for the PS4 by then. I'll use my money for a Switch 2 in the meantime. Seems like Sony rush out their Pro consoles a few months before the Switch and Switch 2. That combo this time is going to be approaching double the price of the PS4 Pro plus Switch combo.

@Hundred_Hand_Slap They didn't employ him for his sense of humour, obviously.

Should have made it available to accounts that had at least 5 years PS Plus subs. That would stop the scalpers.

I don't care about the character I play in a game as long as it is enjoyable.
On character creation screens I just cycle through 3 or 4 random creations and roll with it. I do like them to have blue hair if that is an option though.

12394 would have been a better number for the PS5 Pro consoles bundles.

Hoping for a Bloodborne remaster reveal so everyone can move on to the next remaster we are all hankering for, the Knack duology!