Ignore me - really frustrated at the lack of explanations, walking round in circles for hours, dying repeatedly etc - my first nintendo game, controls are frustrating and the graphics are bizarre compared to modern consoles. I've closed the game and bought the first one (Breath?) and am trying that in the hope that they explain the systems better.
8 hours later - it’s ok - it’s a big open world game.. but not that different to other open world games yet. Fun, sure, best game ever..? Not that I can see yet. The graphics really let it down though, and as I played Genshin (which I know took loads of ideas from it) its quite similar, without the beautiful graphics, cute anime chicks - but thankfully minus any upsell / gatcha
@deadfred77 Indeed - I played Doom/2 for many a late night on my mates offices networked 486s (was it 386s?) and whilst it was a blast, I have been glad for ever upgrade since of the genre. Going back might be “cool” with the youngsters (I.e anyone under 50) but personally it just feels lazy. I mean let’s be honest - GPT could probably knock out a doom clone using old shareware doom builder software in a day..
What I really want to see is a fully realised WH40k AAA MMO open universe game where hundreds of people play in massive battles. That’s the tech evolution I expected to see by 2023, not a Doom clone..
I’ve had to work with it a lot recently, and as it’s a prediction machine it tends to “fill in the blanks” with inaccurate information (which sone humans would call a fabrication of the truth).
All I’m saying is, don’t rely on the shop closing times it gives you..
I like an action RPG, but I dont like a "Walk to a room, door closes, button mash with giant numbers - EXCELLENT - door opens, walk to next room, repeat" gameplay like DmC tends to do. If its like that then I'll probably pass. But if its an action RPG in the "Heres a huge world, go explore in 3rd person and hit stuff as you go if you want.. or not.." then cool, I'm there!
I haven’t played Zelda, I don’t own a switch, so am unsure why it’s popular - it looks like it has fairly dated graphics, and continues the same open world game play that many non switch games have done for years.. so I presume the story must be outstanding?
First time I've seen it, loved the last one, clicked the trailer expecting it to look like the last one... wow... those graphics.. thats looks... excellent
@NEStalgia I play this and Orbus (another VR MMO on PC and Quest 2) and the voice chat is not "voice chat" or a "conference call" (both of which I also do all day at work). In these MMOs voice chat is part of the world. You can hear someone when you are stood next to them, but walk away and and they grow fainter. And you are not talking to a corporate ghost, you have a person, who comes up to you in in this new reality, looks at you, opens their mouth and says "hello there". And you look at them, and remain mute and they say "everything ok? you seem quiet? theres a quest just here" they point to a patch of land nearby "would you like to help?"
At which point its very hard not to just naturally reply.
I hate voice chat. But in VR MMOs I just find myself talking to people stood next to me because it just feels right, and very quickly you forget the reasons you mute.
Its the difference between being on a conference call and being stood at the water cooler.
@LifeGirl This is half the price of the best selling equivalent PC VR headsets, which also require a £1-2K PC on top of the £1K headset price. £550 is vastly cheaper for a superior piece of kit. So yes this site may give rave reviews, but so will many others.
And no, VR headsets do not cause migrains after half an hour. If they did the Quest 2 would not have sold in the massive quantities it has.
@Would_you_kindly The team who make a VR mod are not the same as the team who develop the maps or the team who make the art or the team who brew the teas.
I've been a PC gamer for 30 years since first playing Doom in 1993, been a PlayStation gamer for years, been an Xbox gamer for years, and I play on the Quest 2 most nights.
I also like Blur and Oasis.
Still no idea why there is some soft of bizarre invented rivalry between different set ups. If you like games you're a Gamer - forget the rest. No one is going to take your particular console from you just because someone else says another console is also fun.
I admit to not playing on the Steam Deck very much though.
Is it expensive? Yes, if you compare it to a Quest 2, which is effectively a mobile phone with lenses on (look at the Quest 2 release of Grid Legends) - albeit a very good one (I love my Q2)
Is it expensive if you compare it to equivalent VR setups?
Valve Index - £1200 plus a £1-2K PC (Good but not OLED, no HDR, and needs base stations mounted around the room to track it - wired) Vive Cosmos - £700 plus £1-2K PC (Also good, but also needs base stations mounted around the room - wired) HP Reverb - £599 plus £1-2K PC (note, on sale for £400) - Good - no base stations, wired - great resolution)
PSVR2 - £500 plus £400 console (£500 for disc version) Plus it has some of the highest specs of all of them
For VR enthusiasts this is bargain. For those who enjoy mobile gaming it might seem expensive but for what you are getting its an incredible price. The only real downside for me is that I cant stream PC games through it, or access the wealth of indie games and apps that make the PC version so appealing.
However - the Quest 2 and Pico 4 do allow you to play PCVR games without wires, and do it pretty well imho, but it does cut down on the resolution and framerate due to using wifi to send the pictures - but for £400 if you have a decent PC VR gaming setup I think the Pico 4 in particular gives the Vive and even the Index a run for its money if you use it with Steam and Virtual Desktop
@thefourfoldroot1 Hi thank you - do you know if Plex on ps4 or ps5 supports 3D? Then I could rip from my owned discs and play - this is what I have to do to play on Quest 2 using another video player.
I’m of course presuming Plex and the other video apps will work via Psvr2 big screen
So as someone new to PSVR (but not PCVR) should I hold off buying any titles on PS5 until the studio releases a "PSVR2" specific version?
I mean - Moss is announced as coming for PSVR2, but I dont want to buy it on launch then find I have to buy it again for an "Enhanced Version" 2 months later
Never played the game but have bought the new remasters version - should I watch the Tv show first or play the game first - literally no idea about it as have avoided spoilers
I have been playing for a long time, and it gets better and better. The forest and desert areas especially are stunning, deep and varied and reward exploration. I have spent money on some characters I liked the look of but no more than I would have spent playing WoW or EverQuest back in the day, and the loop is very satisfying. When you have tried to optimise your characters, gear and team for a while then pull off a huge damage crit against a boss it’s incredibly satisfying!
Just to note, this is FREE to Sky+ subscribers who have the movie channel in the UK, you just need to link your accounts on the website and enter the Sky code on your box, and you can then log in and stream Paramount on any device that has it, not just your Sky box (i.e. ipad etc).
@BoldAndBrash Well I don't know about you, but I buy games based on whether its a good game - not on whether the company who owns the console wanted to maximise sales in a time of economic troubles. But then I do own a PS5.
I love VR games but it seems developers feel they have to convert them to first person.
But Moss showed a 3rd person game worked in VR, so why not have the player watching over the character and able to move them around, with my head looking around instead of a camera stick - Horizon Zero for example, if I could be playing the same game but instead of a flat screen I’m watching within the world, able to see threats to my character from around them, that would be awesome!
@NoxusXIV I’m in no way jealous of someone who exploits a set of bugs to walk from the start of the game to the end in 3 minutes and then force a pop up to say it’s over. I’m sure it takes immersive skills to do this - but what I, and it seems most of the commentators, would like to see is someone actually playing the game in at least some semblance of an intended way. Most of us clicking play are thinking “gosh I wonder how he killed Magrit so quickly” or “He must be incredibly talented to run the length of the world, timing his jumps across that chasm so well” - fully prepared to be impressed.
To then see a chap find a bug and walk through to the end in 3 minutes takes away any further interest.
Imagine seeing the headline “athlete beats 2 minute mile” and then watching the starter pistol go as he steps back over the line and claims he finished, whilst looking smug.
@OrtadragoonX My apologies - I thought this was about Elden Ring. I must have skipped some of the article, sorry! I’m not aware of Super Mario, so certainly wouldn’t have commented without seeing it. Best of luck in your future attempts
Whilst I’m sure doing the equivalent of turning on “no clip mode” and dropping down to the boss and then claiming you beat the game is thrilling to some people, the vast majority expect to see an impressive play through of the game when sites plaster their news sections with headlines like this. So congrats to this bloke who found a way to skip the entire game then exploit a bug to get a message to pop up, but how about next time you champion an actual skilled player and we confine the cheats to the darker corners of the web where they can harmlessly lurk in peace.
Genshin is the free to play game that does everything it can to make you pay more money than all the pay to play games put together. I quit after I realised just how much you had to spend to play anything other than the base characters (with a few caveats). For those who think £90 for a new game is a lot - prepare to be astonished at how much it can cost to get a 5 star extra character which you will play for a few days before being bombarded to start buying (gambling) on a new one. If it was actually an MMO in terms of lots of people in the world together it may be forgivable, but as it’s essentially single player it’s really hard to justify the hundreds or thousands some fans plough into it.
Personally I didn’t enjoy it and regretted caving into the hype. Expected a sci-fi souls like experience with death being a cool story feature, instead felt it was a randomised game where the “return thing” was a gimmick to justify a lack of content. One of the few I wish I could have got a refund on.
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Re: Not Even Sony's Been Able to Avoid the Enormous Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Hype
Ignore me - really frustrated at the lack of explanations, walking round in circles for hours, dying repeatedly etc - my first nintendo game, controls are frustrating and the graphics are bizarre compared to modern consoles. I've closed the game and bought the first one (Breath?) and am trying that in the hope that they explain the systems better.
Re: Not Even Sony's Been Able to Avoid the Enormous Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Hype
Bought a switch yesterday to try it.
8 hours later - it’s ok - it’s a big open world game.. but not that different to other open world games yet. Fun, sure, best game ever..? Not that I can see yet. The graphics really let it down though, and as I played Genshin (which I know took loads of ideas from it) its quite similar, without the beautiful graphics, cute anime chicks - but thankfully minus any upsell / gatcha
Re: 900+ PS5, PS4 Games on Offer in New Bumper PS Store Sale
@Shokwave2 Thank you!
Re: Warhammer 40k's DOOM-Style PS5, PS4 Shooter Actually Looks Sick
@deadfred77 Indeed - I played Doom/2 for many a late night on my mates offices networked 486s (was it 386s?) and whilst it was a blast, I have been glad for ever upgrade since of the genre. Going back might be “cool” with the youngsters (I.e anyone under 50) but personally it just feels lazy. I mean let’s be honest - GPT could probably knock out a doom clone using old shareware doom builder software in a day..
What I really want to see is a fully realised WH40k AAA MMO open universe game where hundreds of people play in massive battles. That’s the tech evolution I expected to see by 2023, not a Doom clone..
Apologies for the rant! 😇
Re: 900+ PS5, PS4 Games on Offer in New Bumper PS Store Sale
@Shokwave2 ? Which game do you refer to?
Re: Random: Scary Skyrim Mod Uses AI Tool ChatGPT to Give NPCs Minds of Their Own
I’ve had to work with it a lot recently, and as it’s a prediction machine it tends to “fill in the blanks” with inaccurate information (which sone humans would call a fabrication of the truth).
All I’m saying is, don’t rely on the shop closing times it gives you..
Re: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor's PS5 File Size Is Ridiculous
Thankfully it will barely scratch the surface on my new 2TB SSD
Re: Poll: How Was Final Fantasy 16's State of Play Showcase?
David Beckhams in it?!
Re: Soapbox: Final Fantasy 16 Is the Most Excited I've Been for the Series in Almost 20 Years
I like an action RPG, but I dont like a "Walk to a room, door closes, button mash with giant numbers - EXCELLENT - door opens, walk to next room, repeat" gameplay like DmC tends to do.
If its like that then I'll probably pass.
But if its an action RPG in the "Heres a huge world, go explore in 3rd person and hit stuff as you go if you want.. or not.." then cool, I'm there!
Re: Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Delays Amnesia: The Bunker by One Week
I haven’t played Zelda, I don’t own a switch, so am unsure why it’s popular - it looks like it has fairly dated graphics, and continues the same open world game play that many non switch games have done for years.. so I presume the story must be outstanding?
Re: Resident Evil 4's Ada Wong Responds to Social Media Abuse
I couldn't get passed the first village attack scene, so never saw her. That said I am sure she was fine. That said I dont' know what else to put.
Re: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Offers a Final Glimpse of Gorgeous PS5 Gameplay
First time I've seen it, loved the last one, clicked the trailer expecting it to look like the last one... wow... those graphics.. thats looks... excellent
Re: Rumour: Sony's Allegedly Cut PSVR2 Production Plan by 20% in 2023
It’s great it just needs to be at least available on Amazon, and more games like walking dead
Re: Indie Not on PlayStation Beats PS5, PS4's Biggest Hits to BAFTA's Game of the Year
I tried it on steam deck - I prefer decent graphics and story and I’m not really into that style but it was only £3
6 months later I still play it - damn it’s addictive
Re: Site News: Love What We Do? Become a Push Square Supporter
Happy to support this site which is one of the very few I read daily. Keep up the good work!
Re: The Walking Dead PSVR2 Looks Generations Apart from Meta Quest 2
just a shame it will be practically unviewable due to the horrible oled fog that plagues any dark scenes on psvr2
Re: Mini Review: Zenith: The Last City (PSVR2) - VR MMO Is Heavy on Content, Light on Entertainment
@NEStalgia If you want to try it with an adult who also isn’t that into chatting just let me know happy for you to be muted
Re: Mini Review: Zenith: The Last City (PSVR2) - VR MMO Is Heavy on Content, Light on Entertainment
@NEStalgia I play this and Orbus (another VR MMO on PC and Quest 2) and the voice chat is not "voice chat" or a "conference call" (both of which I also do all day at work).
In these MMOs voice chat is part of the world. You can hear someone when you are stood next to them, but walk away and and they grow fainter. And you are not talking to a corporate ghost, you have a person, who comes up to you in in this new reality, looks at you, opens their mouth and says "hello there". And you look at them, and remain mute and they say "everything ok? you seem quiet? theres a quest just here" they point to a patch of land nearby "would you like to help?"
At which point its very hard not to just naturally reply.
I hate voice chat. But in VR MMOs I just find myself talking to people stood next to me because it just feels right, and very quickly you forget the reasons you mute.
Its the difference between being on a conference call and being stood at the water cooler.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Is Getting Trounced by PS5, Microsoft Weirdly Reveals
How can anything be worth $69 billion?? That’s insane
Re: Genshin Impact's Big 3.5 Update Promises Rewards and Reunions on PS5, PS4
@Constable_What ☝️
Re: PSVR2 Review: Is It Worth It?
@PushButtons It will be huge
Re: PSVR2 Review: Is It Worth It?
@Toypop The Steam chart stats say otherwise.
Re: PSVR2 Review: Is It Worth It?
@LifeGirl This is half the price of the best selling equivalent PC VR headsets, which also require a £1-2K PC on top of the £1K headset price. £550 is vastly cheaper for a superior piece of kit. So yes this site may give rave reviews, but so will many others.
And no, VR headsets do not cause migrains after half an hour. If they did the Quest 2 would not have sold in the massive quantities it has.
Re: PSVR2 Review: Is It Worth It?
Hi, how is the movie watching experience? I presume you can watch blurays on it? But can you watch 3D movies?
Does it allow you to use the existing apps such as Plex, Sky, etc?
Thank you
Re: Sony Appears to Have Leaked Several Unannounced PSVR2 Games
@thefourfoldroot1 Where can one find this mod?
Re: Resident Evil Village VR Mode Gets Demo Alongside PSVR2 Launch
@Would_you_kindly The team who make a VR mod are not the same as the team who develop the maps or the team who make the art or the team who brew the teas.
Re: Gallery: PSVR2's Unboxing Experience Is Uneventful, And That's a Great Thing
@SolarSpirit86 I bought a Valve Index for £1200, this is cheap as chips in comparison, and from all accounts, better specs too!
Re: Hogwarts Legacy PS5 DualSense Controller Sells Out Almost Immediately in UK, US
@Darylb88 mine has arrived and I chose free delivery… yes I’m fairly shocked 😂
Re: Hogwarts Legacy PS5 DualSense Controller Sells Out Almost Immediately in UK, US
@Darylb88 Ah! I miss read it! Thank you
Re: Hogwarts Legacy PS5 DualSense Controller Sells Out Almost Immediately in UK
Ordered at 10. Had a notification from DPD at 2pm it had shipped already and is due to arrive Monday .. not sure where the 28th date came from
Re: PS5's PSVR2 Outperforming Monster PC Rigs, Is the Pinnacle of Virtual Reality
I've been a PC gamer for 30 years since first playing Doom in 1993, been a PlayStation gamer for years, been an Xbox gamer for years, and I play on the Quest 2 most nights.
I also like Blur and Oasis.
Still no idea why there is some soft of bizarre invented rivalry between different set ups. If you like games you're a Gamer - forget the rest. No one is going to take your particular console from you just because someone else says another console is also fun.
I admit to not playing on the Steam Deck very much though.
Re: PS5's PSVR2 Outperforming Monster PC Rigs, Is the Pinnacle of Virtual Reality
I love VR and cant wait for PSVR2.
Is it expensive? Yes, if you compare it to a Quest 2, which is effectively a mobile phone with lenses on (look at the Quest 2 release of Grid Legends) - albeit a very good one (I love my Q2)
Is it expensive if you compare it to equivalent VR setups?
Valve Index - £1200 plus a £1-2K PC (Good but not OLED, no HDR, and needs base stations mounted around the room to track it - wired)
Vive Cosmos - £700 plus £1-2K PC (Also good, but also needs base stations mounted around the room - wired)
HP Reverb - £599 plus £1-2K PC (note, on sale for £400) - Good - no base stations, wired - great resolution)
PSVR2 - £500 plus £400 console (£500 for disc version)
Plus it has some of the highest specs of all of them
For VR enthusiasts this is bargain. For those who enjoy mobile gaming it might seem expensive but for what you are getting its an incredible price. The only real downside for me is that I cant stream PC games through it, or access the wealth of indie games and apps that make the PC version so appealing.
However - the Quest 2 and Pico 4 do allow you to play PCVR games without wires, and do it pretty well imho, but it does cut down on the resolution and framerate due to using wifi to send the pictures - but for £400 if you have a decent PC VR gaming setup I think the Pico 4 in particular gives the Vive and even the Index a run for its money if you use it with Steam and Virtual Desktop
Re: Hands On: PSVR2 Represents the Next Big Step for VR
@thefourfoldroot1 Hi thank you - do you know if Plex on ps4 or ps5 supports 3D? Then I could rip from my owned discs and play - this is what I have to do to play on Quest 2 using another video player.
I’m of course presuming Plex and the other video apps will work via Psvr2 big screen
Re: Hands On: PSVR2 Represents the Next Big Step for VR
Does anyone know if the PSVR2 will allow me to watch 3D Blurays if I have the disc version of the PS5?
Re: How Devs Are Massively Upgrading Their Old PSVR Games for PSVR2
So as someone new to PSVR (but not PCVR) should I hold off buying any titles on PS5 until the studio releases a "PSVR2" specific version?
I mean - Moss is announced as coming for PSVR2, but I dont want to buy it on launch then find I have to buy it again for an "Enhanced Version" 2 months later
Re: PSVR2 Demoed at CES, Horizon Call of the Mountain the Highlight
Psvr2 also has HDR which should make it much nicer to view
Re: Where to Watch The Last of Us TV Show
Never played the game but have bought the new remasters version - should I watch the Tv show first or play the game first - literally no idea about it as have avoided spoilers
Re: Soapbox: Help Me! I'm Hooked on Genshin Impact
I have been playing for a long time, and it gets better and better. The forest and desert areas especially are stunning, deep and varied and reward exploration. I have spent money on some characters I liked the look of but no more than I would have spent playing WoW or EverQuest back in the day, and the loop is very satisfying. When you have tried to optimise your characters, gear and team for a while then pull off a huge damage crit against a boss it’s incredibly satisfying!
Re: Paramount Plus Starts Streaming to PS5 in USA
Just to note, this is FREE to Sky+ subscribers who have the movie channel in the UK, you just need to link your accounts on the website and enter the Sky code on your box, and you can then log in and stream Paramount on any device that has it, not just your Sky box (i.e. ipad etc).
Re: God of War Ragnarok Goes Gold Ahead of November Release Date on PS5, PS4
@BoldAndBrash Well I don't know about you, but I buy games based on whether its a good game - not on whether the company who owns the console wanted to maximise sales in a time of economic troubles. But then I do own a PS5.
Re: UK Sales Charts: 92% of Sniper Elite 5 Sales Are on PS5, PS4
This is because its included free in the Xbox Game Pass
Re: Video: Please, Sony - We Need These PSVR2 Games
I love VR games but it seems developers feel they have to convert them to first person.
But Moss showed a 3rd person game worked in VR, so why not have the player watching over the character and able to move them around, with my head looking around instead of a camera stick - Horizon Zero for example, if I could be playing the same game but instead of a flat screen I’m watching within the world, able to see threats to my character from around them, that would be awesome!
Re: Portal Co-Writer 'Would Love to' Make Portal 3
Why doesn’t he make it then?
Re: By the Way, Elden Ring's Speedrun Record Is Now Less Than 7 Minutes
@NoxusXIV I’m in no way jealous of someone who exploits a set of bugs to walk from the start of the game to the end in 3 minutes and then force a pop up to say it’s over. I’m sure it takes immersive skills to do this - but what I, and it seems most of the commentators, would like to see is someone actually playing the game in at least some semblance of an intended way.
Most of us clicking play are thinking “gosh I wonder how he killed Magrit so quickly” or “He must be incredibly talented to run the length of the world, timing his jumps across that chasm so well” - fully prepared to be impressed.
To then see a chap find a bug and walk through to the end in 3 minutes takes away any further interest.
Imagine seeing the headline “athlete beats 2 minute mile” and then watching the starter pistol go as he steps back over the line and claims he finished, whilst looking smug.
None of us are jealous.
Re: By the Way, Elden Ring's Speedrun Record Is Now Less Than 7 Minutes
@Northern_munkey Exactly! It’s not a true speed run in the sense that the majority think of it.
Re: By the Way, Elden Ring's Speedrun Record Is Now Less Than 7 Minutes
@OrtadragoonX My apologies - I thought this was about Elden Ring. I must have skipped some of the article, sorry! I’m not aware of Super Mario, so certainly wouldn’t have commented without seeing it. Best of luck in your future attempts
Re: By the Way, Elden Ring's Speedrun Record Is Now Less Than 7 Minutes
Whilst I’m sure doing the equivalent of turning on “no clip mode” and dropping down to the boss and then claiming you beat the game is thrilling to some people, the vast majority expect to see an impressive play through of the game when sites plaster their news sections with headlines like this.
So congrats to this bloke who found a way to skip the entire game then exploit a bug to get a message to pop up, but how about next time you champion an actual skilled player and we confine the cheats to the darker corners of the web where they can harmlessly lurk in peace.
Re: By the Way, Elden Ring's Speedrun Record Is Now Less Than 7 Minutes
@ORO_ERICIUS best comparison I’ve read!
Re: Best Free Games on PS5
Genshin is the free to play game that does everything it can to make you pay more money than all the pay to play games put together.
I quit after I realised just how much you had to spend to play anything other than the base characters (with a few caveats). For those who think £90 for a new game is a lot - prepare to be astonished at how much it can cost to get a 5 star extra character which you will play for a few days before being bombarded to start buying (gambling) on a new one.
If it was actually an MMO in terms of lots of people in the world together it may be forgivable, but as it’s essentially single player it’s really hard to justify the hundreds or thousands some fans plough into it.
Re: Returnal Team Hopeful PS Plus Extra Members Will 'Dare to Try It'
Personally I didn’t enjoy it and regretted caving into the hype. Expected a sci-fi souls like experience with death being a cool story feature, instead felt it was a randomised game where the “return thing” was a gimmick to justify a lack of content. One of the few I wish I could have got a refund on.
I get I’m literally the only one though 😂