Is the narrative of peeps playing a remastered version of these renditions without knowing it Day One still on-going? ๐คญ
Personally, didn't get on these games yet not until I get a 699 in my hands ๐ฑ๐ฑ
I must be out of loop to miss this, will watch it later after the dailies. Thanks @get2sammyb
@themightyant Does feel that way here, Hollow is getting pretty daunting to deal with after a while. Crammed deadlines are usually the culprits for Hoyo games. What others do you play by the way?
PS5 community: Can't wait to see extra blades of grass ๐ฑ
PS5 Pro community: Can't wait to see more strands of hair๐
Pushsquarians: Can't touch them grasses and losing hair over every kerfuffle ๐คจ
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Brainrot living rent free is beautifully amusing. โจ๐ฟ
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Not sure what's with Predecessor rebranded from Paragon and its changes that differentiated them apart, after from what I remembered was a long hiatus..
For this case, don't know how the project can be salvaged at this particular time, given even going free model together with characters recast going forward..
At least the developers will be given a second chance moving forward is my take on all this, whatever they will be working on next ๐ค
ใ ค Things I'm okay with:
1. If the digital games price revamp and more frequent addition/subtraction to Plus benefits
2. Option to upgrade ๐ฎ
3. Forward compatibility disc drive (cross-gen)
4. Identical pricing as launch slim models
5. Bring back PS Plus Collection for newcomers + more for everyone
6. More quality live service games
7. ๐คญ
Things to look out :
1. Better and frequent showcases without cramming hype (๐ overwhelm & underwhelm)
2. Let us choose our own PS Plus Essential titles (e.g. 3/5 selector)
3. Try not to gate-keep DLCs especially / next-gen games from current-gen through marketing contracts under pretense of technological divide if can be helped
4. Don't be afraid to try new things/genres with expendable income, as a company
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These would be my genuine feedback.
Now let me go back and read some of the comments ๐ฟ๐ฟ
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End of Service? out of the blue didn't see this one coming NGL
Had always remembered this first and foremost an MMO than a Jenshin contender.
Project Mugen on the other hand ...
In other news, Nikki has gained yet another million of grown men since PushSquare's article, easy does it ๐ช๐๐คญ
I don't think an article like this will go well with dwellers on the site here because they are not real fans ahem ahem - I mean 4 years of lost context within the sphere.
Evolution taken place when people gave positive feedback over the course of the game they love turned into not-so-positive feedback.
They produced multiple games and at the same time mails in-game surveys (more than every game in the industry, with total clarity of the issues of the game events listed upfront somehow) ... goes ahead and repeat/design those pitfalls.
Every casual gamer has their limits.
QOL on that/their other game doesn't even compare, yes?
I would only say, before all these debacle ended, the team done suspicious things in tldr.
The most important thing is . . . It's not "Dev Listened".
It's "Devs Learned". That's all to it ๐
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I've yet to experience current gen let alone worry about storage issues ๐๐ can't help but wonder if GTA6 would top the storage charts once again ๐ค
Just so we're clear, both they're live service games.
If we're talking about ''that'', everyone oh so worried about how much revenue cod are losing out/sustainability instead of their real long term strategy of revenue making before making bank on another sequel after the milk runs out . . . just mind boggles me.
Comparing a chocolate factory versus a diamond artisan.
Both equally successful in their own way.
MS bought Bethesda & the likes and let's be honest, they had plans like these coming after contractual obligations fulfilled. They bought the company and it's resources, so it's fair game for their money.
TL;DR: too much speculating in some comments from T2's one neutral remark.
At the end of the day,
only they have their own financial revenue, we can only speculate.
On a side note, I'm looking forward to Tomb Raider news without unhinged expectations.
People always want the Neuvillette of all things and bench every obsolete unit "by their standards".
When significant amount still using decade old Oppa Xiangling until Natlan comes out, either or the contents inevitably power creep the units.
I will say, .. not every investment always brings value.
Whether that value comes late on, you can always look back and say, '"hey why would I need a PS6 this soon when I could still run medium Ray Tracing on The Witcher 4?"
Ahem anyways, yes price reduction will always definitely happen if the competitors wills it.
Originally a PVE expansion to Part II would do fan service very well, but I guess they tried too hard to find success in capitalizing beyond single player baseline audience.
They still could, just with a better unique new IP that could showcase their live service/vision novelty.
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Ooff.. I honestly miss Gravity Rush 2's live service aspect.
Enjoyed those fun little treasure huntings.
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It'll release next year, trust me bro.
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They could've found an in with the live service way imo, Star Citizen and NMS, even Genshin could..
If they had so much content like they said..
LSA left most people the impression of combat foremost, not the story. Story can always be continued in a live service way, not another 5 years mind you!
When done right, with their scale of ambition I don't think it cannot be done.
Most games market them in Part 1 into Part 2 to make cash, doesn't always mean it's always going to be one-and-done or waiting for another full blown sequel.
They are indie, they can be flexible. It's not corpa.
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That being said, PS5 Pro could not be a better time for it to ride along with.
Come to think of it, I've always treated my gacha games as a ''souls experience'' (if you will), and how is that even souls you might ask..?
If I must explain, well, resources. They come and go if you're not prudent. Skill whereas can manifest in different forms, not just reaction, but understanding of the landscape.
Now if someone comes along with the obligatory ''g word", then clearly didn't read between the lines on how some of us play our games.
Food for thought!
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Just adding (very, very late) this here, Elden etc is considered a live service at least to me. Traditionally, games as a service is heavily reliant on 'version updates', and nowadays, even offline games are going to be semi-live, just not to the degree of No Man Sky .. just yet.
Live service is very prevalent in everyone's lives, in fact, so to speak.
Certainly do! Doesn't hate them though.
Bloodborne might the only one I ever gone through and enjoyed, and that's fine, because I know I'm more of a gacha gamer than anything else.
If the Phantom Blade Zero I've seen feels anything near like Zenless Zone Zero, I'd welcome it any day.
It's good for the rewards you get compared to other similar genre, especially on anniversaries updates like this.
It's not free lunch is the only downside (events grind), but hey, it's enough for me to keep me playing it.
Each to it's own, always.
@BIG3
Wished Kuro devs would support PS4 rendition because UE can be very flexible if they want it to.
There's a whole audience like me still waiting on that, waiting to jump from Pro to Pro.
Granted, it would take time and expertise for every patch porting but it should be profitable if there is ongoing demand from the get-go.
Personally, I'd still hold this opinion even when I do get a Pro.
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Re: Big Tech Cuts Made to Get Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Running on PS4
Sure took EA a good while than Hogwarts Legacy.
Is the narrative of peeps playing a remastered version of these renditions without knowing it Day One still on-going? ๐คญ
Personally, didn't get on these games yet not until I get a 699 in my hands ๐ฑ๐ฑ
Re: Sony Priming 'Even Less Exciting' PS5 Remaster for State of Play
All of the intern-kuns working on remasters while boomer veterans working on live services. Sounds about right ๐
Re: Biker Babes and Minigames Front PS5 Favourite Zenless Zone Zero's New Update
I must be out of loop to miss this, will watch it later after the dailies. Thanks @get2sammyb
@themightyant
Does feel that way here, Hollow is getting pretty daunting to deal with after a while. Crammed deadlines are usually the culprits for Hoyo games. What others do you play by the way?
Re: Feature: PS5 Pro's Been Clowned on By the Entire Internet, and the Memes Will Make You Laugh
PS5 community: Can't wait to see extra blades of grass ๐ฑ
PS5 Pro community: Can't wait to see more strands of hair๐
Pushsquarians: Can't touch them grasses and losing hair over every kerfuffle ๐คจ
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Brainrot living rent free is beautifully amusing. โจ๐ฟ
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Re: Don't Worry, You Can Add an Ultra HD Disc Drive to PS5 Pro
In regards to all-digital doom-posting, I urge you to come back after next-generation launches.
I'd more than happy to see my disc drive to be reusable for next-gen. . . unless ... you're not?
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Add an Ultra HD Disc Drive to PS5 Pro
Ray tracing is expensive, but PS5 Pro is still cheaper at 699. ๐
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
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PS4 mains, it's time.
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That's right, no one knows we exist. Let's keep it that way. Carry on ..๐ฟ
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Re: Soapbox: Astro's Playroom PS5 Did Live Service and You Didn't Even Notice
@get2sammyb
Sammy, PSN is a live service that everybody use.
No point going any further my chad ๐คซ
Re: Soapbox: Astro's Playroom PS5 Did Live Service and You Didn't Even Notice
Live service is amazing in the right hands ๐ค
Re: PS5, PC Disaster Concord Is Now Officially Offline Indefinitely
Not sure what's with Predecessor rebranded from Paragon and its changes that differentiated them apart, after from what I remembered was a long hiatus..
For this case, don't know how the project can be salvaged at this particular time, given even going free model together with characters recast going forward..
At least the developers will be given a second chance moving forward is my take on all this, whatever they will be working on next ๐ค
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Dead on Arrival, Is Being Taken Offline This Week as Dev 'Explores Options'
@naruball
How could you forget Infinity Nikki, I'm fairly disappointed.
Live service for people like you and me is known for content delivery, instead of some stereotypical genre.
My days with live service multiplayer ended with Overwatch and started with that pepega live service SP, Jenshin Impact.
Needless to say, trends are very volatile when the games made today, might probably age like milk, 8 years later.
But hey, one thing that always age like fine wine is the schadenfreude pick-up lines๐
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Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Dead on Arrival, Is Being Taken Offline This Week as Dev 'Explores Options'
General population at large: Unprecedented! ๐
Gacha gamers: First time? ๐ค
Also me: This Changes Everything!
Re: PlayStation Fans Think Hideo Kojima's Teasing PS5 Pro, But It's One Hell of a Reach
Actually all I could see is a ripped man with very nice shoes is low-key flexing on his love for Lego sets ๐ช๐คณ
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for September 2024?
Real question, would Quidditch sell better than Conc...
๐Just jesting ๐ , I'm down to taste testing everything except the sim
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Design Seemingly Leaked
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Things I'm okay with:
1. If the digital games price revamp and more frequent addition/subtraction to Plus benefits
2. Option to upgrade ๐ฎ
3. Forward compatibility disc drive (cross-gen)
4. Identical pricing as launch slim models
5. Bring back PS Plus Collection for newcomers + more for everyone
6. More quality live service games
7. ๐คญ
Things to look out :
1. Better and frequent showcases without cramming hype (๐ overwhelm & underwhelm)
2. Let us choose our own PS Plus Essential titles (e.g. 3/5 selector)
3. Try not to gate-keep DLCs especially / next-gen games from current-gen through marketing contracts under pretense of technological divide if can be helped
4. Don't be afraid to try new things/genres with expendable income, as a company
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These would be my genuine feedback.
Now let me go back and read some of the comments ๐ฟ๐ฟ
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Re: Genshin Impact's Sequel-Sized Natlan Expansion Is Out Now on PS5, PS4
@Enuo selector runs for another 40 days, take all the time you need
As for me, it's C3 Flame Mane and C0 Forrest Ranger. Got my yearly Zombie quota out of the way from Mualani banner ๐ฉ๐
Re: Online RPG Blue Protocol Shutting Down, Western Release Cancelled
End of Service? out of the blue didn't see this one coming NGL
Had always remembered this first and foremost an MMO than a Jenshin contender.
Project Mugen on the other hand ...
In other news, Nikki has gained yet another million of grown men since PushSquare's article, easy does it ๐ช๐๐คญ
Re: PS5, PC FPS Concord's Poor Player Numbers Have Predictably Gone Viral
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Concord - agreement or harmony between people or groups
๐ฟ Thanks, Google.
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Re: Photorealistic The Sims Rival inZOI Will Eventually Settle on PS5
Seems like era of AAAA has just really begun ๐
Re: Over 12 Million Fans Have Pre-Registered to Play PS5 Fashion RPG Infinity Nikki
Not gonna lie. Kind of impresses me knowing that a lot of those same people are playing Love and Deepspace.
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Re: Genshin Impact Boss Cries on Stage Following Harsh Fan Feedback
That Furina music in the BG I just can't ๐
I don't think an article like this will go well with dwellers on the site here because they are not real fans ahem ahem - I mean 4 years of lost context within the sphere.
Evolution taken place when people gave positive feedback over the course of the game they love turned into not-so-positive feedback.
They produced multiple games and at the same time mails in-game surveys (more than every game in the industry, with total clarity of the issues of the game events listed upfront somehow) ... goes ahead and repeat/design those pitfalls.
Every casual gamer has their limits.
QOL on that/their other game doesn't even compare, yes?
I would only say, before all these debacle ended, the team done suspicious things in tldr.
The most important thing is . . . It's not "Dev Listened".
It's "Devs Learned". That's all to it ๐
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Re: Borderlands 4 Announced, Coming to PS5 in 2025
The ray tracing in that trailer is so good that I don't know what I'm looking at ๐
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds Continues to Look Incredible Ahead of PS5 Release in 2025
Feels like yesterday (2018) when I bought my Pro just for MHW.
Impeccable timing once again, Capcom โจ
Re: Xbox's Indiana Jones and the Great Circle Comes to PS5 in Spring 2025
Came here & stop by because Indiana Tunes was playing in my head as I saw this article ๐ถ
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Gamescom Opening Night Live 2024?
Best live service impression?
MH Wilds.
imo, people who isn't acquainted w/ ZZZ will be just as confused of that teaser at the end ngl.
Jenshin news on Xbox bewildered me.
Overall, only Infinity Nikki and Wilds are already right up my alley.
Re: Fashion Fantasy RPG Infinity Nikki Nabs a Musical PS5, PS4 Trailer
yes.
Also ngl, news to me this isn't current gen exclusive since I've been eyeing this one since first debut.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong Is Another Game Over 100GB on PS5
I've yet to experience current gen let alone worry about storage issues ๐๐ can't help but wonder if GTA6 would top the storage charts once again ๐ค
Re: GTA 6 Won't Be on Subs Like PS Plus at Launch Because Take-Two Makes 'Rational' Decisions
Just so we're clear, both they're live service games.
If we're talking about ''that'', everyone oh so worried about how much revenue cod are losing out/sustainability instead of their real long term strategy of revenue making before making bank on another sequel after the milk runs out . . . just mind boggles me.
Comparing a chocolate factory versus a diamond artisan.
Both equally successful in their own way.
MS bought Bethesda & the likes and let's be honest, they had plans like these coming after contractual obligations fulfilled. They bought the company and it's resources, so it's fair game for their money.
TL;DR: too much speculating in some comments from T2's one neutral remark.
At the end of the day,
only they have their own financial revenue, we can only speculate.
On a side note, I'm looking forward to Tomb Raider news without unhinged expectations.
Re: Reaction: PS5 Needs a Price Cut
Proud to be that 25 %.
People always want the Neuvillette of all things and bench every obsolete unit "by their standards".
When significant amount still using decade old Oppa Xiangling until Natlan comes out, either or the contents inevitably power creep the units.
I will say, .. not every investment always brings value.
Whether that value comes late on, you can always look back and say, '"hey why would I need a PS6 this soon when I could still run medium Ray Tracing on The Witcher 4?"
Ahem anyways, yes price reduction will always definitely happen if the competitors wills it.
Re: Naughty Dog Allegedly Found Bungie's Feedback on Binned The Last of Us 2 Multiplayer Extremely Helpful
Originally a PVE expansion to Part II would do fan service very well, but I guess they tried too hard to find success in capitalizing beyond single player baseline audience.
They still could, just with a better unique new IP that could showcase their live service/vision novelty.
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Ooff.. I honestly miss Gravity Rush 2's live service aspect.
Enjoyed those fun little treasure huntings.
ใ ค
Re: Gorgeous PS5 RPG Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Promises to Take Turn-Based Combat to the Next Level
All I see is Star Rail with realistic graphics and big bad looking bosses
Rip to those cursed to make this game happen
Imagine if the expedition 33 broke the turn-based at the end to break the fourth wall
Re: Quidditch Champions Is the PS5, PS4 Harry Potter Sports Sim You've Been Waiting For
@get2sammyb
Nice touch with that PTSD on He Who Must Not be Named haha
Or should I say also ... she who must not be named . . .
I'm hopeless hreheeh :'P
Re: Long-Awaited PS5 Game Lost Soul Aside Grabs a Few Minutes of Gameplay as Fans Beg for a Launch Date
It'll release next year, trust me bro.
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They could've found an in with the live service way imo, Star Citizen and NMS, even Genshin could..
If they had so much content like they said..
LSA left most people the impression of combat foremost, not the story. Story can always be continued in a live service way, not another 5 years mind you!
When done right, with their scale of ambition I don't think it cannot be done.
Most games market them in Part 1 into Part 2 to make cash, doesn't always mean it's always going to be one-and-done or waiting for another full blown sequel.
They are indie, they can be flexible. It's not corpa.
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That being said, PS5 Pro could not be a better time for it to ride along with.
Re: Poll: Are You Sick of Soulslike Games?
hhmm, what makes a souls a souls experience?
Come to think of it, I've always treated my gacha games as a ''souls experience'' (if you will), and how is that even souls you might ask..?
If I must explain, well, resources. They come and go if you're not prudent. Skill whereas can manifest in different forms, not just reaction, but understanding of the landscape.
Now if someone comes along with the obligatory ''g word", then clearly didn't read between the lines on how some of us play our games.
Food for thought!
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Just adding (very, very late) this here, Elden etc is considered a live service at least to me. Traditionally, games as a service is heavily reliant on 'version updates', and nowadays, even offline games are going to be semi-live, just not to the degree of No Man Sky .. just yet.
Live service is very prevalent in everyone's lives, in fact, so to speak.
Re: Poll: Are You Sick of Soulslike Games?
@Savage_Joe
Now that reminds me of what GenDesign and Kojima is cooking on the other end, and when can we finally get a look-see
Re: Poll: Are You Sick of Soulslike Games?
Certainly do! Doesn't hate them though.
Bloodborne might the only one I ever gone through and enjoyed, and that's fine, because I know I'm more of a gacha gamer than anything else.
If the Phantom Blade Zero I've seen feels anything near like Zenless Zone Zero, I'd welcome it any day.
Re: Tower of Fantasy Targets Lapsed Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball Players with Saucy PS5, PS4 Update
It's good for the rewards you get compared to other similar genre, especially on anniversaries updates like this.
It's not free lunch is the only downside (events grind), but hey, it's enough for me to keep me playing it.
Each to it's own, always.
@BIG3
Re: Wuthering Waves Officially Confirmed for PS5
Wished Kuro devs would support PS4 rendition because UE can be very flexible if they want it to.
There's a whole audience like me still waiting on that, waiting to jump from Pro to Pro.
Granted, it would take time and expertise for every patch porting but it should be profitable if there is ongoing demand from the get-go.
Personally, I'd still hold this opinion even when I do get a Pro.