I hope all the ground floor devs keep their jobs as there is actual talent there seeing the graphics (not art style though), sound and gameplay more or less. The top people that were directing the game and making all the important decisions need to find a new home somewhere else.
I find the entire ordeal with Concord fascinating, I actually would like more articles covering the different aspects of how the project leads got it so wrong. Besides, these articles seem way more interesting and fun than playing the game.
@LifeGirl I can definitely see Astro Bot paying for itself and making a nice profit as it should! that being said you're expecting too much from little Astro if you think he will be able to fill that 100+ mil hole that Concord left π
@Dalejrfanfreak "Another woke title bites the dust."
Baldur's Gate 3 was "woke" and so was TLOU2, in Cyberpunk 2077 there was a trans character and you can make one... I think those games sold pretty well π€
Again woke is irrelevant and won't prevent a great game from dominating the charts. Concord was generic crap that would have flopped even if all the characters were sexy moaning bunny girls in thongs and high heels π€·
@Ralizah " I was thinking the same thing. If even 10,000 people bought it on Steam... where are they?"
That's exactly what I'm wondering, every single day the 24 peak players has gotten lower and lower (I check everyday because I'm fascinated by this trainwreck lol). So where are these people, did they buy the game but got buyers remorse after the 2 hours refund period?
I legit would really love Jim Ryan's opinion or reaction to this situation. He's the one who went to Firewalk Studios, took a look at Concord (which was 6 years in) and probably shouted "this is incredible! Not only do we need this for PlayStation but we need you to be part of our family asap!!"
Don't need to watch the trailer, very easy day one! Is going to feel good finally getting the stench of failure off of us that we had to endure for a whole week π
@dskatter She's not a hack obviously her work is very influential and I happily bought and enjoyed Hogwarts. That said you have to admit she's completely obsessed with a certain group of people, that's all she talks about to the point that her love ones should get her help because this obsession is not healthy.
"the original experience remains unchanged and intact."
It sure is other than you know the soundtrack π Can you imagine SE remade/remastered FF VIII and replaced all of the original soundtrack to something else and still called it the definitive VIII experience?
Was he divisive in the UK? Cause in the US he was probably the second most loved ranger only beaten by the white ranger (so basically we were all following JDF around π)
If this goes to PC then 100% of PS5's past and future library will make the jump in which case just release everything the same day on both platforms so we don't have to keep doing this same song and dance π€·
@WhensDinner @Realist "Push Square really getting mileage out of this game. Probably more than the actual players are."
The game just released, negative or positive why wouldn't they write more about a new PlayStation first party exclusive? If TLOU 3 had been the one released there rightfully would have been twice as many articles as Concord currently has.
"youβre not going to find any of the characters from Concord on PornHub"
Yikes what a disturbing visual with these characters π€’
But I say just pull the plug and use what you learn to make sure this doesn't happen again. This game couldn't even get as many players as Gollum, this will go down as PlayStation's biggest failure but luckily we got Astro Bot next month!
So it's classic Ubisoft then, It will be half off in two months tops! Anyway if you love the Ubisoft formula this is for you, everyone else move along.
@naruball I meant that the PS5 games would be patched to work on the portable like the rumors mentioned. The Steam Deck can already run several games PS5 games like Forbidden West perfectly so it's not impossible.
@B0udoir " Right now roughly 250 players on Concord. Thatβs still twice than Suicide Squad, so itβs not yet an epic fail."
Why you keep comparing a game released at the beginning of the year which started with 13,459 players (still awful) and slowly evaporated to nothing to Concord which died within minutes of release?
Yes Suicide Squad is a bomb but nothing has bombed harder than Concord in recent memory (not because of the quality because it looks solid). The game could not get past 697 people playing it and it looks like 200+ of those already refunded π
I'm guessing 200+ refunded the game so yeah this is soul crushing for the studio,
If we can play our entire PS5/PS4 library of games meaning we can take the games we buy on the console to go at no extra cost I don't see how anyone says no to that! It probably won't have its own exclusives but it doesn't need them.
@UltimateOtaku91 "they can't make it free to play as they would have to refund all buyers plus there's no MTX for them to make money off even if it was free to play."
If they don't want to throw the towel in just yet then making it f2p is their only available option, no point in adding mtx when there's not many people playing it.
Of course they would have to do refunds so they could potentially lose even more money. I'm with you though I say just call it a loss and move one, use this experience to ensure that the same doesn't happen to Fairgame$ (a name change is a good start π€)
@ashipaw Baldur's Gate 3 has all of those things and it ruled 2023 completely, it wasn't even close. If the game is great people will buy it regardless of the "woke" stuff, Concord is generic crap that would have flopped even if they took all those things away.
@LifeGirl "Graphics are meaningless to the average consumer"
But the Pro isn't aimed at the average consumer, they will just buy the cheapest option available (Series S sells way more than X). PS5 Pro is for the hardcore that want that extra power! Is like Samsung & Apple releasing a Ultra and Pro Max version of their phones with bells and whistles.
More than double to be exact and Redfall was considered the failure of all failures π
Unfortunately us PlayStation players have to take the L gracefully here, we might have to take another L with Fairgames too because of Jim panic buying studios.
It's still early Sony can still make some moves like making it f2p! but if things stay like this then Sony is looking at it's biggest financial bomb of the company's history. I do wish Firewalk well regardless and hope no one loses their jobs.
@WanderWhere Yeah those 697 people would be pretty upset! You're right though a F2P move now would potentially hurt the games reputation and effect it's sales β¨
Also of those 697 players that bought the game how many will or have ask for refunds because they didn't like it or they can't find players? If I was Sony I would just tell Firewalk to begin working on a patch to turn it F2P, what do you have to lose?
The fact that it couldn't even hit 700 players probably makes it one of if not the biggest flop for Sony. If we all knew this was the outcome why didn't Sony? The should have changed course in some way, at minimum they should have made it F2P.
So at no point in the game are the following words used in any form... I, me, my, myself, mine, we, us, our, ours, ourselves, you, your, yours, yourself, me, you, him, her, it, us, you, them.
I better not hear any of those words otherwise I might just call you a liar π
@Golem25 "Still more than 6-7 times as much as Suicide Squad!"
You're comparing an old game (which bombed) to a game that released today! Suicide Squad's all time peak is 13,459 which was considered a giant failure, I don't think Concord will even come close to that already low number π
Still early though, maybe somehow the game trends on social media and it picks up Steam (no pun intended) but as of now it's the worst case scenario.
As of this comment the all-time peak on Steam is 622 players π¬ maybe there will be a giant spike later but if things stand like this it will potentially be the biggest multiplayer flop of the year (or generation)!
In hindsight it was a very bad idea to release it a day after Black Myth: Wukong which is what everyone is focused on right now π
The game looks fantastic and I'll definitely buy it but I'll wait for a couple of patches! nothing I hate more than a game getting shiny new patches after I have finished and moved on from the game.
"I wonder what it says about our society that so many people are looking forward to starting an artificial life over living their actual one?"
It says nothing because there's billions of people living in completely different situations across the world. Some people may be experiencing a terrible home life and may look for something to escape into, better a game than something more permanent.
No kidding about The sims being stale, it looks like a relic from the past they haven't really updated it in any meaningful way (actually it has gone backwards in many ways!).
On the other hand inZOI looks incredible! I hope we don't have to wait too long. Big props to South Korea who has really been bringing it, they ain't playing games over there (maybe no pun intended).
@naruball Exactly this! It may look like is just a few negative people from this site bashing the game but all their YouTube videos are in the negatives and that's not counting all the negative videos of people covering the game.
They need to change something whether is your suggestion of adding characters from PlayStation or changing the marketing strategy but if they just try to ride it out like Suicide Squad then Suicide Squad is what they will get.
@naruball To be fair do you only read articles on games you like? I've opened plenty of articles on Fortnite and I've never played a second nor do plan to waste a second on it π€·
As a big fan of the game there's no way I would pay even half of that π if there's not even an upgrade path then this is one of the most obvious cash grabs of the year at least!
Didn't interest me on PS3 but would definitely like to play them now! I hope is remasters and not remakes as remaking 3 games would takes years, probably spilling into the PS6 cycle!
@DestructionAllstars Your username is exactly the energy this game is giving off! π ultimately Concord will suffer the same as your username although it might not last even that long!
I do wonder which game will bomb harder this or Fairgame$ π€ my money is on Fairgame$ as the trailer was worst received than Suicide Squad but time will tell.
If they released it now as is (with a few finishing touches) I have no doubt it will easily make it's make money back and beyond! Such a easy live service homerun yet they instead canned it and focus on a couple of other no name games that have bomb written all over them.
Yes to Tatsunoko vs Capcom! that game is rotting on the Wiii with the awful motion controls! and despite the controls the game was excellent with lots of charm.
"relive moments from the film and play as classic characters from one of the most iconic and important horror films of all time"
So they are single player games? I personally think the world has seen enough of asymmetrical multiplayer games based on horror ips, we don't need more garbage for the landfill π
@LifeGirl I finally agree with one of your takes lol
I myself don't understand why Japan of all places is censoring stuff like this, like there's Japanese games literally dedicated to just taking panty shots like the Gal Gun series so... π€·
The casting is absolutely horrid, almost everyone is too old for their character. I'm trying to understand who was this made for? Why not at least go with a young vibrant cast even of they are unknown actors instead of a couple of these washed up actors π
@Bamila "Idk, to me it looks like money grab attempt"
I would have happily bought the money grab if it had the original soundtrack π so yes after being too cheap (probably) to pay for the original songs this indeed is a cash grab!
"Thanks to Lionsgate for the opportunity to see the movie in advance, and all of the snacks"
I'm betting it's the first and last time you're ever invited to anything by them if they see this bloodbath of a review, at least you got tasty snacks π
@ShonenJump121 "I understand the co-founders left"
Don't let them off the hook! yes they jumped from the Titanic as soon as they saw the iceberg but they still steered the ship most of the way through π
Could you imagine after we all made fun of this game for so long it somehow catches fire and becomes hit! Maybe unlikely but weirder things have happened π€·
I liked the game just fine but I'm not interested in a sequel, I would prefer he make something new. However I wouldn't say no to a NMH 2 PS5 port, is the only one PlayStation didn't get.
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Re: Concord Devs Maintain Radio Silence, Which Isn't Helping Matters
I hope all the ground floor devs keep their jobs as there is actual talent there seeing the graphics (not art style though), sound and gameplay more or less. The top people that were directing the game and making all the important decisions need to find a new home somewhere else.
Re: How Long Does It Take to Find a Match in Concord on PS5, PC?
I find the entire ordeal with Concord fascinating, I actually would like more articles covering the different aspects of how the project leads got it so wrong. Besides, these articles seem way more interesting and fun than playing the game.
Re: PS5's Astro Bot Marketing Onslaught Starting in Busy Shopping Mall
@LifeGirl I can definitely see Astro Bot paying for itself and making a nice profit as it should! that being said you're expecting too much from little Astro if you think he will be able to fill that 100+ mil hole that Concord left π
Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
@Dalejrfanfreak "Another woke title bites the dust."
Baldur's Gate 3 was "woke" and so was TLOU2, in Cyberpunk 2077 there was a trans character and you can make one... I think those games sold pretty well π€
Again woke is irrelevant and won't prevent a great game from dominating the charts. Concord was generic crap that would have flopped even if all the characters were sexy moaning bunny girls in thongs and high heels π€·
Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
@Ralizah " I was thinking the same thing. If even 10,000 people bought it on Steam... where are they?"
That's exactly what I'm wondering, every single day the 24 peak players has gotten lower and lower (I check everyday because I'm fascinated by this trainwreck lol). So where are these people, did they buy the game but got buyers remorse after the 2 hours refund period?
Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
I legit would really love Jim Ryan's opinion or reaction to this situation. He's the one who went to Firewalk Studios, took a look at Concord (which was 6 years in) and probably shouted "this is incredible! Not only do we need this for PlayStation but we need you to be part of our family asap!!"
Re: Let the Astro Bot PS5 Launch Trailer Tide You Over Until Release
Don't need to watch the trailer, very easy day one! Is going to feel good finally getting the stench of failure off of us that we had to endure for a whole week π
Re: Harry Potter: Quidditch Champions' Snitch Has Been Dramatically Nerfed on PS5, PS4
@dskatter She's not a hack obviously her work is very influential and I happily bought and enjoyed Hogwarts. That said you have to admit she's completely obsessed with a certain group of people, that's all she talks about to the point that her love ones should get her help because this obsession is not healthy.
Re: PS4 Players Won't Have to Wait Long for Lollipop Chainsaw RePOP
"the original experience remains unchanged and intact."
It sure is other than you know the soundtrack π
Can you imagine SE remade/remastered FF VIII and replaced all of the original soundtrack to something else and still called it the definitive VIII experience?
Re: Green Ranger Tommy Oliver Joins the Roster of Power Rangers: Rita's Rewind on PS5, PS4
Was he divisive in the UK? Cause in the US he was probably the second most loved ranger only beaten by the white ranger (so basically we were all following JDF around π)
Re: Do You Want Astro Bot on PC? Creative Director Wants to Know
If this goes to PC then 100% of PS5's past and future library will make the jump in which case just release everything the same day on both platforms so we don't have to keep doing this same song and dance π€·
Re: Talking Point: Can PS5, PC Shooter Concord Be Saved?
@WhensDinner @Realist "Push Square really getting mileage out of this game. Probably more than the actual players are."
The game just released, negative or positive why wouldn't they write more about a new PlayStation first party exclusive? If TLOU 3 had been the one released there rightfully would have been twice as many articles as Concord currently has.
Re: Talking Point: Can PS5, PC Shooter Concord Be Saved?
"youβre not going to find any of the characters from Concord on PornHub"
Yikes what a disturbing visual with these characters π€’
But I say just pull the plug and use what you learn to make sure this doesn't happen again. This game couldn't even get as many players as Gollum, this will go down as PlayStation's biggest failure but luckily we got Astro Bot next month!
Re: Round Up: Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Reviews Are Hit and Miss
So it's classic Ubisoft then, It will be half off in two months tops! Anyway if you love the Ubisoft formula this is for you, everyone else move along.
Re: Rumour: Sony Paying Close Attention to Handheld Market After PS Portal's Shock Success
@naruball I meant that the PS5 games would be patched to work on the portable like the rumors mentioned. The Steam Deck can already run several games PS5 games like Forbidden West perfectly so it's not impossible.
Re: Things Are Getting Worse for Floundering PS5, PC FPS Concord
@B0udoir " Right now roughly 250 players on Concord. Thatβs still twice than Suicide Squad, so itβs not yet an epic fail."
Why you keep comparing a game released at the beginning of the year which started with 13,459 players (still awful) and slowly evaporated to nothing to Concord which died within minutes of release?
Yes Suicide Squad is a bomb but nothing has bombed harder than Concord in recent memory (not because of the quality because it looks solid). The game could not get past 697 people playing it and it looks like 200+ of those already refunded π
I'm guessing 200+ refunded the game so yeah this is soul crushing for the studio,
Re: Rumour: Sony Paying Close Attention to Handheld Market After PS Portal's Shock Success
If we can play our entire PS5/PS4 library of games meaning we can take the games we buy on the console to go at no extra cost I don't see how anyone says no to that! It probably won't have its own exclusives but it doesn't need them.
Re: Things Are Getting Worse for Floundering PS5, PC FPS Concord
@UltimateOtaku91 "they can't make it free to play as they would have to refund all buyers plus there's no MTX for them to make money off even if it was free to play."
If they don't want to throw the towel in just yet then making it f2p is their only available option, no point in adding mtx when there's not many people playing it.
Of course they would have to do refunds so they could potentially lose even more money. I'm with you though I say just call it a loss and move one, use this experience to ensure that the same doesn't happen to Fairgame$ (a name change is a good start π€)
Re: PS5, PC FPS Concord's Poor Player Numbers Have Predictably Gone Viral
@ashipaw Baldur's Gate 3 has all of those things and it ruled 2023 completely, it wasn't even close. If the game is great people will buy it regardless of the "woke" stuff, Concord is generic crap that would have flopped even if they took all those things away.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Was Allegedly Being Talked About Openly at Gamescom
@LifeGirl "Graphics are meaningless to the average consumer"
But the Pro isn't aimed at the average consumer, they will just buy the cheapest option available (Series S sells way more than X). PS5 Pro is for the hardcore that want that extra power! Is like Samsung & Apple releasing a Ultra and Pro Max version of their phones with bells and whistles.
Re: Concord (PS5) - Live Service Debut Beats the Hate with Stellar Presentation and Good Gameplay
@cburg "Redfall had more players than this game."
More than double to be exact and Redfall was considered the failure of all failures π
Unfortunately us PlayStation players have to take the L gracefully here, we might have to take another L with Fairgames too because of Jim panic buying studios.
Re: Concord (PS5) - Live Service Debut Beats the Hate with Stellar Presentation and Good Gameplay
It's still early Sony can still make some moves like making it f2p! but if things stay like this then Sony is looking at it's biggest financial bomb of the company's history. I do wish Firewalk well regardless and hope no one loses their jobs.
Re: PS5, PC FPS Concord's Poor Player Numbers Have Predictably Gone Viral
@WanderWhere Yeah those 697 people would be pretty upset! You're right though a F2P move now would potentially hurt the games reputation and effect it's sales β¨
Re: PS5, PC FPS Concord's Poor Player Numbers Have Predictably Gone Viral
Also of those 697 players that bought the game how many will or have ask for refunds because they didn't like it or they can't find players? If I was Sony I would just tell Firewalk to begin working on a patch to turn it F2P, what do you have to lose?
Re: PS5, PC FPS Concord's Poor Player Numbers Have Predictably Gone Viral
The fact that it couldn't even hit 700 players probably makes it one of if not the biggest flop for Sony. If we all knew this was the outcome why didn't Sony? The should have changed course in some way, at minimum they should have made it F2P.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Concord?
@rick1987 "Not a pronoun in sight too!"
What!! π
So at no point in the game are the following words used in any form... I, me, my, myself, mine, we, us, our, ours, ourselves, you, your, yours, yourself, me, you, him, her, it, us, you, them.
I better not hear any of those words otherwise I might just call you a liar π
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Concord?
@Golem25 "Still more than 6-7 times as much as Suicide Squad!"
You're comparing an old game (which bombed) to a game that released today! Suicide Squad's all time peak is 13,459 which was considered a giant failure, I don't think Concord will even come close to that already low number π
Still early though, maybe somehow the game trends on social media and it picks up Steam (no pun intended) but as of now it's the worst case scenario.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Concord?
As of this comment the all-time peak on Steam is 622 players π¬ maybe there will be a giant spike later but if things stand like this it will potentially be the biggest multiplayer flop of the year (or generation)!
In hindsight it was a very bad idea to release it a day after Black Myth: Wukong which is what everyone is focused on right now π
Re: Black Myth: Wukong (PS5) - A Spectacularly Creative Action Romp
The game looks fantastic and I'll definitely buy it but I'll wait for a couple of patches! nothing I hate more than a game getting shiny new patches after I have finished and moved on from the game.
Re: Photorealistic The Sims Rival inZOI Will Eventually Settle on PS5
"I wonder what it says about our society that so many people are looking forward to starting an artificial life over living their actual one?"
It says nothing because there's billions of people living in completely different situations across the world. Some people may be experiencing a terrible home life and may look for something to escape into, better a game than something more permanent.
Re: Photorealistic The Sims Rival inZOI Will Eventually Settle on PS5
No kidding about The sims being stale, it looks like a relic from the past they haven't really updated it in any meaningful way (actually it has gone backwards in many ways!).
On the other hand inZOI looks incredible! I hope we don't have to wait too long. Big props to South Korea who has really been bringing it, they ain't playing games over there (maybe no pun intended).
Re: PS5, PC Hero Shooter Concord Was in Development for 8 Years
@naruball Exactly this! It may look like is just a few negative people from this site bashing the game but all their YouTube videos are in the negatives and that's not counting all the negative videos of people covering the game.
They need to change something whether is your suggestion of adding characters from PlayStation or changing the marketing strategy but if they just try to ride it out like Suicide Squad then Suicide Squad is what they will get.
Re: Site News: Where's Our Concord PS5, PC Review?
@naruball To be fair do you only read articles on games you like? I've opened plenty of articles on Fortnite and I've never played a second nor do plan to waste a second on it π€·
Re: PS5 Gets a Staggering, Officially Licensed 8TB SSD
I bought a 4TB and I feel that's more than enough to finish the generation however this 8TB one will go great with the PS5 Pro!
Re: Concord's Platinum Trophy Looks Very Approachable on PS5
Very curious about the reviews and sales performance! Will it hit like Helldivers 2 or Suicide Squad? Perhaps somewhere in the middle π€
Re: Until Dawn PS5 Is Priced at $60 / Β£60
As a big fan of the game there's no way I would pay even half of that π if there's not even an upgrade path then this is one of the most obvious cash grabs of the year at least!
Re: Square Enix Has Got Fans Talking About a Final Fantasy 13 Remake, Not a Remaster
Didn't interest me on PS3 but would definitely like to play them now! I hope is remasters and not remakes as remaking 3 games would takes years, probably spilling into the PS6 cycle!
Re: Concord Pre-Load Available Now on PS5, Post-Launch Roadmap Revealed
@DestructionAllstars Your username is exactly the energy this game is giving off! π ultimately Concord will suffer the same as your username although it might not last even that long!
Re: Concord Pre-Load Available Now on PS5, Post-Launch Roadmap Revealed
I do wonder which game will bomb harder this or Fairgame$ π€ my money is on Fairgame$ as the trailer was worst received than Suicide Squad but time will tell.
Re: Cancellation of The Last of Us Online Was 'Not a Bloodless Endeavour'
If they released it now as is (with a few finishing touches) I have no doubt it will easily make it's make money back and beyond! Such a easy live service homerun yet they instead canned it and focus on a couple of other no name games that have bomb written all over them.
Re: Capcom Wants All of Its Legacy Fighting Games to Be Re-Released on PS5, PS4
Yes to Tatsunoko vs Capcom! that game is rotting on the Wiii with the awful motion controls! and despite the controls the game was excellent with lots of charm.
Re: Halloween Is Getting a Pair of Games, Including Unreal Engine 5 Title from John Carpenter
"relive moments from the film and play as classic characters from one of the most iconic and important horror films of all time"
So they are single player games? I personally think the world has seen enough of asymmetrical multiplayer games based on horror ips, we don't need more garbage for the landfill π
Re: Dead Rising's PS5 Remaster Will Strip Bonus Points for Erotic Photos
@LifeGirl I finally agree with one of your takes lol
I myself don't understand why Japan of all places is censoring stuff like this, like there's Japanese games literally dedicated to just taking panty shots like the Gal Gun series so... π€·
Re: Dead Rising's PS5 Remaster Will Strip Bonus Points for Erotic Photos
Me being more upset that the original voice actor is not returning π
Re: Movie Review: Borderlands - As Bland As the Brand It's Based On
The casting is absolutely horrid, almost everyone is too old for their character. I'm trying to understand who was this made for? Why not at least go with a young vibrant cast even of they are unknown actors instead of a couple of these washed up actors π
Re: Lollipop Chainsaw RePOP Pre-Orders Live Now on PS5
@Bamila "Idk, to me it looks like money grab attempt"
I would have happily bought the money grab if it had the original soundtrack π so yes after being too cheap (probably) to pay for the original songs this indeed is a cash grab!
Re: Movie Review: Borderlands - As Bland As the Brand It's Based On
"Thanks to Lionsgate for the opportunity to see the movie in advance, and all of the snacks"
I'm betting it's the first and last time you're ever invited to anything by them if they see this bloodbath of a review, at least you got tasty snacks π
Re: Suicide Squad the Villain Behind Warner Bros Gaming Revenue Drop
@ShonenJump121 "I understand the co-founders left"
Don't let them off the hook! yes they jumped from the Titanic as soon as they saw the iceberg but they still steered the ship most of the way through π
Re: Concord's Animated Freegunner Adventures Continue as PS5, PC Launch Draws Closer
Could you imagine after we all made fun of this game for so long it somehow catches fire and becomes hit! Maybe unlikely but weirder things have happened π€·
Re: Shadows of the Damned 2 Possible if PS5, PS4 Remaster Sells Well
I liked the game just fine but I'm not interested in a sequel, I would prefer he make something new. However I wouldn't say no to a NMH 2 PS5 port, is the only one PlayStation didn't get.