@Bez87 The thing is that CoD probably don't actually make it money from people buying the game. They make their money through skins, battle passes, and stuff. So yes, they could potentially lose out on people buying the game for $70 every year but that doesn't matter if you have more people to sell battle passes to. Plus, Warzone is what matters, not the $70 games.
@JAMes-BroWWWn A lot of the game budget is also marketing. Remember that Sony was putting up life size statue in cities across the globe for Forbidden west. This is why you don't see Microsoft and Nintendo doing crazy marketing for their games.
@NotSoCryptic Believe it or not, Xbox is probably a better place for niche games like this to market. Xbox isn’t over crowded with multiple games fighting for marketing space. Which allows games to actually stand out cause they’re more likely to grab people’s attention due to the limited amount of games coming to the platform. People was actually listing this as a major reason to pick up a Series X. Lmao.
Microsoft also can’t picky and choosy with games, so they far more likely to fund development and handle marketing vs Sony who would have far better games to pick from.
Microsoft buying Sega would be interesting given the wealth of Strategy Game franchises and companies Sega own. CA is need in order to make a Halo Wars 3. Sega also just bought Rovio Entertainment.
@HonestHick Another game “causing” overheating issues… If the PS5 overheating, it not the game. It people having their system shoved in a dusty cramp entertainment center without ventilation.
@Gaia093 The issues with just buying exclusivity for this one game is that the return guarantee isn’t there. It also opens the gate of Microsoft getting in a bidding war over exclusivity for other Bethesda/Zenimax titles since publishers are always going to offer Sony a better deal. Better to just say f it, and buy the company out right.
@Kevw2006 They may not watch the stream, but they’ll browse through YouTube and see that Xbox dropped trailers, and not PlayStation/Nintendo (they still don’t have trailers dropped on their channels, and the Altus West channel still only mentions Xbox and PC in their release videos)
@UltimateOtaku91 It not about rushing out to buy consoles in 48 hours… These people may never buy the console at all. But it make the Xbox brand look like it gets more “exclusive” games then it does. Which may sway them to buy it in the future. Why do you think PlayStation paid so much money for marketing rights for stuff like Destiny and CoD. It make the game looks exclusive to their platform.
@UltimateOtaku91 It not a waste of money. There plenty of people that pay so little attention to gaming that 1 trailer can easily sway them into thinking a game is exclusive to a single platform. For these kinds of people, the first few days of a game announcement is very crucial as most of them won’t do any further research until a month before the game comes out.
@Triumph741 Not many. They released one game on 360 most likely due to the simplicity of porting PC games to the platform. But consoles are clearly an after thought after the PC versions. Hell, they had announced a MacOS version of Baldurs Gate 3 prior to even thinking about a console version. Console versions should have been announced day 1 even if they teased it for next gen only. PC platforms are clearly their priority.
@Triumph741 The purchase of nixxes is from the prospective of buying a support/tech studio, not buying a game development studio. As they’ve done more than just port games to PC… They’ve have assisted on multiple game projects like Killzone Shadow fall.
@Gamerintent55 “ Obsidian's output now seems to be moving away from their staple isometric rpg's which were fantastic and moving to the 1st person efforts mess that Avowed looks”
I don’t know where you’re getting that their staple is isometric rpgs? Literally Obsidian biggest game have been stuff like Fallout new Vegas and Outer Worlds. Avowed is right up their alley
@Marquez Yeah. The amount of content is crazy. I was worried that there wasn't going to be enough content to keep me entertain since I'm not an endgame player.
@TheArt Even tho I’m American since I put $ instead of £… I can still easily tell you that isn’t true as Jedi Survivor was 70, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 was 70… The list goes on. Yes something like Dead island 2 was 60. But most game especially next gen only game are pushing that 70 price tag.
Losing Rod Fergusson as the studio head for The Coalition was a massive loss for Microsoft. The guy can clearly lead a team/studio.
Anyway, I am absolutely hooked on Diablo 4. None of the past 3 games was able to grab me in such a way that this one has. If It wasn't for the fact that i still have to eat, sleep, and go to work... I would never leave my computer screen.
Damn. I’ve been looking for new vr headset cause while I love my index… It’s a lot of work to get into late at night after work. I need quick and simple that I can pop on and off. My choices was between the PSVR2, Quest 2, or Vice focus 2…So this looks like it
@Titntin While that is a possibility. I very much expect Microsoft to clean house after this purchase is through. There is no way Microsoft and Phil aren’t looking at the stuff Bobby and this team has done and not thinking “These people got to go”. If they aren’t, then it massively explains their issue to release games.
@NEStalgia I mean... Amazon has already left Netflix behind. Amazon had already had their hands in multiple big game development, and they are published/publishing Lost Ark and Blue Protocol.
@NEStalgia The thing is that I would expect Netflix to start small with more indie titles. Developing more unique stuff like Oxenfree since they own the studio. But it seems that they are jumping straight into the deep end... These aren't some small no name developers. They are some big names with some pedigree behind them.
Hopefully Netflix knows what they are doing. Game development isn't cheap, and they aren't exactly in a good financial position. Considering that they like to cancel stuff after one season if it aint an instant hit. The price of development has scared off giants like Google.
@Deoxyr1bose I mean… Capcom and Square Enix aren’t clean either. It simply how the game industry works. All the sins of the past gets swept away the moment you release a good game.
@Tharsman Xbox digital code most likely adhere to the same restriction as physical. Where a minimum number of physical copies needs to be produced in order to have a physical copy. So only the bigger games or games from big publisher are going to have digital codes available.
@Tharsman I saw, but Final Fantasy VII Reunion as an example for Xbox isn’t good. As Final Fantasy sell poor on that system, so they don’t offer many digital codes… Something more mainstream would be a better example. Jedi Survivor which you can buy a digital code for Xbox and not PlayStation.
@Tharsman I know you can buy digital code for Xbox and Switch. I bought my digital copy of Tears of the kingdom through Amazon, and digital copy of Mario kart through humble bundle… I have seen some codes for PlayStation on super gray market site, but never on any site I trust.
@Green-Bandit I guessing that even tho it a big franchise. It true fan base is still very much on PC, and Sony isn’t see enough engagement from it on their store to make it worth fighting for. Where as something like CoD is a vastly more popular especially for console gamers.
@Northern_munkey I know it has nothing to do with seasonal ladders… etc. It the fact that people was saying that Blizzard should hold off on the event till season 1 to give everyone fair footing due to the season not beginning till July. So you would have a month to prepare taking away the unfair edge for people who played the beta and preordered the deluxe edition. It’ll also give people time to enjoy the story without rushing through content.
@Texan_Survivor I don’t think it has anything to do with the PS5 being a weaker console. We’re heading into an era where cloud gaming is gonna take up much of the casual space. Only the core gamers are going to still see interest in owning local hardware. Also I don’t see this generation lasting as long as the PS4. I mean we’re already hearing talks of a PS5 Pro.
@Northern_munkey I don’t really get this issue that people have… Any one “sweaty” enough to attempt something like this are usually the content creators, the people who pre order the fancy deluxe edition to get it a couple days early, and most likely already played the beta… The people who would want it to wait till the 6th or season 1 are the casual, and they wouldn’t have a chance anyway.
@Martijn87 It cheaper on PC most likely cause it an epic exclusive due Epic publishing the game. Epic store doesn’t take the 30% hit like Sony/Microsoft/Valve does.
@Shad361 Whatever device Nintendo releases next wouldn't even be in the same market. Unless Nintendo plans to release an actual next gen home console on the same power level as a PS5, and not another glorified tablet.
@Nem Sony is a smart company, and I am sure they made sure to consider way to get out of this deal if it doesn't suit them. Plus any bad press isn't going to affect Sony. It going to affect Embracer Group as it is still their game, and it their decision making and studios that lead to the poor state of the game that it currently in.
But we'll see in 10 years when this finally releases.
@Green-Bandit "release on PC there day one and still release games on PS possibly"
I mean... If Sony bought them. They could still release on PC and on Xbox. Bungie games are still multiplatform as part of the purchase agreement. But let's hope does games make it of oven as the recent news about the spin-off games being reboots, multiple lay off of developers, and talent leaving is not a good sign...
@RudeAnimat0r I wouldn’t even Dragon Dogma and Monster hunter in the same market. One is more of WRPG similar to Fallout 3, Elder Scrolls, and Fable 2… While Monster hunter you just fight and capture monsters.
@Nem There is no such thing as “not possible”, anything possible at this point. As there is nothing stopping Sony from pulling funding if the game doesn’t release in a timely fashion or it doesn’t eventually meet their quality standards. It also heavily depends on the contract. It also already been stated that Sony is unhappy with the state of the remake.
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Re: Call of Duty Netted Almost $1 Billion in Revenue for PlayStation in USA Alone
@Bez87 The thing is that CoD probably don't actually make it money from people buying the game. They make their money through skins, battle passes, and stuff. So yes, they could potentially lose out on people buying the game for $70 every year but that doesn't matter if you have more people to sell battle passes to. Plus, Warzone is what matters, not the $70 games.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Cost $220 Million to Make, Horizon Forbidden West Cost $212 Million
@JAMes-BroWWWn A lot of the game budget is also marketing. Remember that Sony was putting up life size statue in cities across the globe for Forbidden west. This is why you don't see Microsoft and Nintendo doing crazy marketing for their games.
Re: PS5 Port of Body Horror Scorn Potentially Teased in Series of Cryptic Tweets
@NotSoCryptic Believe it or not, Xbox is probably a better place for niche games like this to market. Xbox isn’t over crowded with multiple games fighting for marketing space. Which allows games to actually stand out cause they’re more likely to grab people’s attention due to the limited amount of games coming to the platform. People was actually listing this as a major reason to pick up a Series X. Lmao.
Microsoft also can’t picky and choosy with games, so they far more likely to fund development and handle marketing vs Sony who would have far better games to pick from.
Re: SEGA and Bungie Were On Microsoft's Shopping List in 2020, Xbox Emails Show
Microsoft buying Sega would be interesting given the wealth of Strategy Game franchises and companies Sega own. CA is need in order to make a Halo Wars 3. Sega also just bought Rovio Entertainment.
Re: Blizzard Dev Sets the Record Straight on Diablo 4's Rarest Item Drops
@HonestHick Another game “causing” overheating issues… If the PS5 overheating, it not the game. It people having their system shoved in a dusty cramp entertainment center without ventilation.
Re: Xbox Insinuates It Bought Bethesda to Block Starfield PS5 Console Exclusivity
@Gaia093 The issues with just buying exclusivity for this one game is that the return guarantee isn’t there. It also opens the gate of Microsoft getting in a bidding war over exclusivity for other Bethesda/Zenimax titles since publishers are always going to offer Sony a better deal. Better to just say f it, and buy the company out right.
Re: Xbox Insinuates It Bought Bethesda to Block Starfield PS5 Console Exclusivity
@daveofduncan There is actually no guarantee that FFXVI will end up on Xbox. The six months exclusively only pertains to the PC version.
Re: Embattled Ubisoft Sailing Sim Skull and Bones Forces PS5 Beta to Walk the Plank
@Enuo Not even Microsoft would spend money on this. At least it will be day one on Uplay +
Re: Xbox Had Embargoed Persona Dev's Metaphor: ReFantazio After All, as Fantasy RPG Is Confirmed for PS5, PS4
@Kevw2006 They may not watch the stream, but they’ll browse through YouTube and see that Xbox dropped trailers, and not PlayStation/Nintendo (they still don’t have trailers dropped on their channels, and the Altus West channel still only mentions Xbox and PC in their release videos)
@UltimateOtaku91 It not about rushing out to buy consoles in 48 hours… These people may never buy the console at all. But it make the Xbox brand look like it gets more “exclusive” games then it does. Which may sway them to buy it in the future. Why do you think PlayStation paid so much money for marketing rights for stuff like Destiny and CoD. It make the game looks exclusive to their platform.
Re: Xbox Had Embargoed Persona Dev's Metaphor: ReFantazio After All, as Fantasy RPG Is Confirmed for PS5, PS4
@UltimateOtaku91 It not a waste of money. There plenty of people that pay so little attention to gaming that 1 trailer can easily sway them into thinking a game is exclusive to a single platform. For these kinds of people, the first few days of a game announcement is very crucial as most of them won’t do any further research until a month before the game comes out.
Re: Sony Says Not Making PS5, PS4 Exclusives Free with PS Plus on Day One Is a Strategy That's Working
@UltimateOtaku91 Most don’t come to Gamepass cause publishers would rather put it on their subscription service first.
Re: No New Game Announcements to Celebrate The Last of Us' Tenth Anniversary
@Green-Bandit A full PS5 port would be interesting simply due to the fact it gives them reason to port to PC.
Re: Rebuilding the City of Baldur's Gate was Larian Studios' Greatest Fear; Now Its Proudest Achievement
@Triumph741 Not many. They released one game on 360 most likely due to the simplicity of porting PC games to the platform. But consoles are clearly an after thought after the PC versions. Hell, they had announced a MacOS version of Baldurs Gate 3 prior to even thinking about a console version. Console versions should have been announced day 1 even if they teased it for next gen only. PC platforms are clearly their priority.
Re: Rebuilding the City of Baldur's Gate was Larian Studios' Greatest Fear; Now Its Proudest Achievement
@Triumph741 The purchase of nixxes is from the prospective of buying a support/tech studio, not buying a game development studio. As they’ve done more than just port games to PC… They’ve have assisted on multiple game projects like Killzone Shadow fall.
Re: Rebuilding the City of Baldur's Gate was Larian Studios' Greatest Fear; Now Its Proudest Achievement
@Gamerintent55 “ Obsidian's output now seems to be moving away from their staple isometric rpg's which were fantastic and moving to the 1st person efforts mess that Avowed looks”
I don’t know where you’re getting that their staple is isometric rpgs? Literally Obsidian biggest game have been stuff like Fallout new Vegas and Outer Worlds. Avowed is right up their alley
Re: Rebuilding the City of Baldur's Gate was Larian Studios' Greatest Fear; Now Its Proudest Achievement
@Sil_Am Yeah… Not happening. They’re not a match for Sony at all. Way too PC focus and enjoy releasing early access games
Re: Persona 5 Tactica Launches 17th November, Persona 3 Reload Early 2024
@KaijuKaiser "Without big daddy Windows I don't think they'd even be around today or for the past decade."
RRoD would have killed the brand without Microsoft money
Re: Yes, Diablo 4 Is Blizzard's Fastest Selling Game of All Time
@Marquez Yeah. The amount of content is crazy. I was worried that there wasn't going to be enough content to keep me entertain since I'm not an endgame player.
Re: Two Diablo 4 Expansions Are Already in the Works at Blizzard
@TheArt Even tho I’m American since I put $ instead of £… I can still easily tell you that isn’t true as Jedi Survivor was 70, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 was 70… The list goes on. Yes something like Dead island 2 was 60. But most game especially next gen only game are pushing that 70 price tag.
Re: Random: Thought PSVR2 Was Expensive? Apple's Vision Pro Is Here to Hold Your Beer
@naruball I mean… No one watches an Apple event for games. I’m still surprised that Death Stranding is coming to Mac.
Re: Two Diablo 4 Expansions Are Already in the Works at Blizzard
@TheArt I sure had Elden Ring released this year and was next gen only. It would have been a $70 game as even ToTk is $70...
Re: Two Diablo 4 Expansions Are Already in the Works at Blizzard
Losing Rod Fergusson as the studio head for The Coalition was a massive loss for Microsoft. The guy can clearly lead a team/studio.
Anyway, I am absolutely hooked on Diablo 4. None of the past 3 games was able to grab me in such a way that this one has. If It wasn't for the fact that i still have to eat, sleep, and go to work... I would never leave my computer screen.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Dev Progressing Smoothly, Release Date Being Nailed Down
@NEStalgia Wasn't it announced in 2015 and not 2014
Re: Diablo 4 PS5, PS4 Early Launch Faces Invalid License Issues
@Jey887 Playing it just fine on PC. Like the article said it only a Sony issue.
Re: Meta Quest 3 Revealed as Cheaper, All-In Rival to PS5's PSVR2
Damn. I’ve been looking for new vr headset cause while I love my index… It’s a lot of work to get into late at night after work. I need quick and simple that I can pop on and off. My choices was between the PSVR2, Quest 2, or Vice focus 2…So this looks like it
Re: Activision Boss Bobby Kotick Blames 'Outside Forces' for Firm's Poor Reputation
@Titntin While that is a possibility. I very much expect Microsoft to clean house after this purchase is through. There is no way Microsoft and Phil aren’t looking at the stuff Bobby and this team has done and not thinking “These people got to go”. If they aren’t, then it massively explains their issue to release games.
Re: God of War Art Director Joins Netflix for AAA Project
@NEStalgia I mean... Amazon has already left Netflix behind. Amazon had already had their hands in multiple big game development, and they are published/publishing Lost Ark and Blue Protocol.
Re: God of War Art Director Joins Netflix for AAA Project
@NEStalgia The thing is that I would expect Netflix to start small with more indie titles. Developing more unique stuff like Oxenfree since they own the studio. But it seems that they are jumping straight into the deep end... These aren't some small no name developers. They are some big names with some pedigree behind them.
Hopefully Netflix knows what they are doing. Game development isn't cheap, and they aren't exactly in a good financial position. Considering that they like to cancel stuff after one season if it aint an instant hit. The price of development has scared off giants like Google.
Re: God of War Art Director Joins Netflix for AAA Project
First Joseph Staten and now him. What is Netflix planning?
Re: Poll: Which PS5 Blockbuster Will You Be Playing in June?
@Deoxyr1bose I mean… Capcom and Square Enix aren’t clean either. It simply how the game industry works. All the sins of the past gets swept away the moment you release a good game.
Re: Sony Underfire for Allegedly Abusing Its Dominance in the Industry
@Tharsman Xbox digital code most likely adhere to the same restriction as physical. Where a minimum number of physical copies needs to be produced in order to have a physical copy. So only the bigger games or games from big publisher are going to have digital codes available.
Re: Sony Underfire for Allegedly Abusing Its Dominance in the Industry
@Tharsman I saw, but Final Fantasy VII Reunion as an example for Xbox isn’t good. As Final Fantasy sell poor on that system, so they don’t offer many digital codes… Something more mainstream would be a better example. Jedi Survivor which you can buy a digital code for Xbox and not PlayStation.
Re: Sony Underfire for Allegedly Abusing Its Dominance in the Industry
@Tharsman I know you can buy digital code for Xbox and Switch. I bought my digital copy of Tears of the kingdom through Amazon, and digital copy of Mario kart through humble bundle… I have seen some codes for PlayStation on super gray market site, but never on any site I trust.
Re: PS5 Showpiece Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Jumps to the PC Dimension in July
@belmont "Seems like Final Fantasy 16 is now the one and only true PS5 exclusive"
You mean console exclusive. Cause that is also coming to PC at some point.
Re: Diablo 4 (PS5) - Blizzard's Best in Years Is a Violent Delight for Infernal Types
@Green-Bandit I guessing that even tho it a big franchise. It true fan base is still very much on PC, and Sony isn’t see enough engagement from it on their store to make it worth fighting for. Where as something like CoD is a vastly more popular especially for console gamers.
Re: Diablo 4 (PS5) - Blizzard's Best in Years Is a Violent Delight for Infernal Types
@JB_Whiting There early access
Re: Want to Be Immortalised in Diablo 4? Just Hit Level 100 on Hardcore Before Virtually Anyone Else
@Northern_munkey And I’m not talking about not season ladder, only about the people playing vanilla hardcore.
Re: Want to Be Immortalised in Diablo 4? Just Hit Level 100 on Hardcore Before Virtually Anyone Else
@Northern_munkey You clearly don’t get the point…
Re: Want to Be Immortalised in Diablo 4? Just Hit Level 100 on Hardcore Before Virtually Anyone Else
@Northern_munkey I know it has nothing to do with seasonal ladders… etc. It the fact that people was saying that Blizzard should hold off on the event till season 1 to give everyone fair footing due to the season not beginning till July. So you would have a month to prepare taking away the unfair edge for people who played the beta and preordered the deluxe edition. It’ll also give people time to enjoy the story without rushing through content.
Re: Sony Expects to Sell Over 108 Million PS5 Consoles This Generation
@Texan_Survivor I don’t think it has anything to do with the PS5 being a weaker console. We’re heading into an era where cloud gaming is gonna take up much of the casual space. Only the core gamers are going to still see interest in owning local hardware. Also I don’t see this generation lasting as long as the PS4. I mean we’re already hearing talks of a PS5 Pro.
Re: Want to Be Immortalised in Diablo 4? Just Hit Level 100 on Hardcore Before Virtually Anyone Else
@Northern_munkey I don’t really get this issue that people have… Any one “sweaty” enough to attempt something like this are usually the content creators, the people who pre order the fancy deluxe edition to get it a couple days early, and most likely already played the beta… The people who would want it to wait till the 6th or season 1 are the casual, and they wouldn’t have a chance anyway.
Re: THQ Nordic Is Trying to Convince Remedy to Release Alan Wake 2 Physically
@Martijn87 It cheaper on PC most likely cause it an epic exclusive due Epic publishing the game. Epic store doesn’t take the 30% hit like Sony/Microsoft/Valve does.
Re: Sony Expects to Sell Over 108 Million PS5 Consoles This Generation
@Shad361 Whatever device Nintendo releases next wouldn't even be in the same market. Unless Nintendo plans to release an actual next gen home console on the same power level as a PS5, and not another glorified tablet.
Re: Despite Facing Huge Hurdles, Star Wars' PS5 KOTOR Remake Is Still in Development
@Nem Sony is a smart company, and I am sure they made sure to consider way to get out of this deal if it doesn't suit them. Plus any bad press isn't going to affect Sony. It going to affect Embracer Group as it is still their game, and it their decision making and studios that lead to the poor state of the game that it currently in.
But we'll see in 10 years when this finally releases.
Re: Sony 'Not in Talks' with CD Projekt RED About an Acquisition
@Green-Bandit "release on PC there day one and still release games on PS possibly"
I mean... If Sony bought them. They could still release on PC and on Xbox. Bungie games are still multiplatform as part of the purchase agreement. But let's hope does games make it of oven as the recent news about the spin-off games being reboots, multiple lay off of developers, and talent leaving is not a good sign...
Re: No, Dragon's Dogma 2 Isn't Adding Co-Op Multiplayer
@RudeAnimat0r I wouldn’t even Dragon Dogma and Monster hunter in the same market. One is more of WRPG similar to Fallout 3, Elder Scrolls, and Fable 2… While Monster hunter you just fight and capture monsters.
Re: Despite Facing Huge Hurdles, Star Wars' PS5 KOTOR Remake Is Still in Development
@Nem There is no such thing as “not possible”, anything possible at this point. As there is nothing stopping Sony from pulling funding if the game doesn’t release in a timely fashion or it doesn’t eventually meet their quality standards. It also heavily depends on the contract. It also already been stated that Sony is unhappy with the state of the remake.
Re: Autobot Icon Optimus Prime Will Roll Out in Fortnite's Chapter 4, Season 3 on PS5, PS4
@BeerIsAwesome I would pay top dollar for Gandhi. At least getting killed by Gandhi will be better than getting killed by goku black #8664
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Was Planned for PS5 and PS4, But the Last-Gen Version Would Have Taken Too Long
@KundaliniRising333 I was going to say the exact same thing. Lmao
Re: Despite Facing Huge Hurdles, Star Wars' PS5 KOTOR Remake Is Still in Development
By the time this comes out… We’ll be talking about the PS6 and the game will be day 1 on Xbox at release.