The style looks really nice and definitely has that Bleach feel but I'm not sold on the gameplay yet. Anime games are extremely hit and miss these days.
@Carck If you're only 10 hours into IW, your opinion might change. I think it's a good game but I found it incredibly slow and the story really didn't pay off. I just expected better after Yakuza 0,Yakuza 7, Gaiden, Judgement and Lost judgement which were all fantastic.
I do hope you continue to enjoy it more than I did though
I think review bombing is pathetic but I do think the DLC has some issues that people ignore because it's Elden Ring. The lands of Shadow is incredibly empty in the southern part of the map. No dungeons, bad loot, a handful of enemies and a few world bosses, it's pitiful.
@LikelySatan Yeah, I think they mean that due to the time limit, you won't be able to see everything in one run which is incredibly disappointing. I'm not necessarily a one and done type guy but I do like to get to as close to 100% as possible on my first playthrough so this is sad news.
Unless the game is only like 30 hours long or something but I doubt it. Atlus and their final super duper complete editions are definitely taking their toll as well. I hope Atlus learns their lesson eventually, their games are profitable enough now that they really can't justify pulling stunts like that anymore.
Everyone knows the right way to play the game is Bare handed, level 1, no armor, no healing, no dodging (because dodging is OP) no blocking, no Co-op, no Ashes, hands tied behind your back and blindfolded otherwise you're just another filthy casual.
Analysts have been saying this for years and haven't been right so far so... I don't really care. By that point, I'll have so many games that I can just replay them all till I die anyway.
1 million seems low but hey, if its within budget and it turned a profit? Then congrats to shiftup and I look forward to what they do next. Maybe just hire some better writers
@PuppetMaster That's fair. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the main reason you should be playing games is for fun. Plain and simple. If the only positive aspect of a game is that it feels rewarding then I don't think that's a good thing.
I don't play Elden Ring to feel accomplished. I play it to have fun and the achievement of beating a hard boss is just a sidenote to me. Honestly most of the time I just feel relief after beating a hard boss 😅
I feel like the people mentioning a sense of accomplishment are missing something in their lives. You shouldn't need a video game to feel accomplished especially because it's a false sense of achievement. Beating a video game isn't really something you can brag about to anyone.
Like, "Everyone! I just beat Malenia!" OK congrats? No one cares.
It depends. I do think FromSoft are going to hit a wall at some point, you can only make a game so hard yknow? I didn't like Nioh because it was too hard for me but I don't think it was a bad game, I just didn't have the patience to put in the amount of practice it wants me to. I just don't have that sort of time anymore.
I've been playing Souls games for nearly 15 years so I'm familiar enough with the games themselves that I've never reached that point of feeling like I'm wasting my time but with some brutally hard games, it can certainly feel that way and I imagine it feels that way for some who try Elden Ring for the first time too.
Do I think these games should have an easy mode though? No. I think the games are fine as they are. Some games just aren't for everyone and besides Elden Ring has an easy mode.
@Porco If it took people years to warm up to 8 and 12 then aren't you judging 16 too soon?
So, judging games by comments you see on the Internet is somehow a better metric than critic and user scores? How do you justify that logic? Seems like you just have a bias you want confirmed. Your argument against 15 is essentially "I don't like it so reviews must be wrong".
Ps5 exclusives as a whole don't sell that well except Spider-Man, it's not just FF16. You only need to look at the other exclusives to see this.
You're really going to quote another Push Square article at me? This site isn't the best for genuine articles on Squares sales considering they use bloomberg as their source.
You're going to have to do better than this to "prove" the game is a failure worth worrying about because this evidence is shoddy at best.
Even the poll on this very site is against you, I don't even know what to say at this point.
@Porco You haven't been paying very good attention then. A FF release hasn't been 100% celebrated by the community since FF7. Just because you see the reception on the Internet as divisive, it isn't the whole picture and to claim it is based on some articles on Push Square and posts on Reddit is ridiculous.
Look at opencritic or metacritic. How is an 80+ score divisive? That's overwhelmingly positive. It's just silly to see comments on the Internet and thinking "this must be representative of the entire fanbase". Only a small fraction of any fanbase is on the Internet discussing it and that's a fact.
They also said FF16 would meet their longterm goals so I don't know where you're getting the disappointing sales angle from either. It's in the top 5 best selling PS5 games.
Shadow Of The Erdtree is going through a bit of divisive arguments on the Internet itself at the moment. People claiming it's too hard and too inaccessible etc. I guess based on that I should be worried about FromSofts future? Come on bro.
@fluffiethesock Right but some of these comments are implying they haven't liked the series for decades so why are they still here? It's bizzare. I can't imagine holding onto something for that long and still thinking you're going to get your "return to form".
Ever since 7 this sort of conversation around what is or isn't FF has reared it's ugly head and it's so tiring.
You couldn't have enjoyed them that much when you called the games after 10 an unrecognisable imitation. I've genuinely enjoyed every FF mainline game except maybe the first 3 and FF5? And I would say all of them despite their differences in gameplay all have that distinct FF flavour.
I see these takes a lot "what if the next ones a racing game" "what if the next one is like Tekken". It's disengenuine. The series identity hasn't completely changed because they decided to go from turn based to action combat. If that was the case then Yakuza died after 6 or Mario died as soon as it started going 3D or Resident Evil when it ditched tank controls etc.
@Porco Please don't make the mistake of seeing 5 people comment and then thinking that's a representation of the entire fanbase. I mean no disrespect, it's just not a good analysis.
Edit: There are also just as many fans praising the game in the comments as there are hating on it so I don't see how you came to the conclusion you did anyway if I'm being completely honest.
These kinds of comments sections are always so predictable. Why are some people on here still commenting about the series if they've hated it for over 20 years? Absolutely baffling.
It looks very nice but gameplay wise it's not something I'm looking for. I hope it does well though. We need more unique games like this, just a shame it's not one I'm personally interested in.
Gotta love gamers sometimes, if it's something they don't agree with "must've been paid to say it because I haven't played it but it looks ***** so it must be *****, therefore he must be lying"
Same thing happened when Sakaguchi said he liked FF16.
There's no way it's better than Shivering Isles but then again... Nothing on that list is better than Shivering Isles so just goes to show how much score matters.
@QiaraIris I feel like if you compare every game to what is essentially the gold standard then you're always going to be very disappointed. Why not just play BG3 forever?
Edit:Lmao they blocked me. Here I thought comments were for discussion!
After seeing more, I'm looking forward to it! I'm waiting for pre-orders to go up now and I can't wait to finally get back to Thedas. It's been way too long.
Still think it would've done them a lot of favours if they released a Dragon Age Legendary Edition though and I won't shut up about it until it happens!
@ShogunRok I just finally got around to playing infinite wealth and being the petty person that I am, I had to come back and say that you straight up lied to me.
The mini-games in Yakuza are far more intrusive and distracting than anything in Rebirth. Dondoko Island? I have to play animal crossing before I can get back to playing the game I paid for? Or how about the bicycle mini game? Where I had to play it despite the game even admitting to my face that I had the money already, but it's going to force me to do it anyway.
The amount of times Infinite Wealth derails the main game for some whacky misadventures is staggering compared to Rebirth which just makes the conversation we had months ago completely baffling to me.
If Rebirth is padding it's main story with mini-games (which a majority of can be skipped, like the queens blood tournament) then Yakuza is doing it in spades. Can't believe you defended that the way you did. Yakuza's mini-games don't "exist alongside the main story" they literally are part of the main story at times.
@J2theEzzo FF fans have cried about every entry since 8. Something will be wrong with everything Square Enix does, even if the fans have to dig to the earth's core to find their favourite nitpick to hang onto for the rest of their lives.
Not unlike Star Wars, the FF fanbase is a cesspit.
@Nei Yep. Definitely going to be seeing a lot of "This is what REAL fans wanted for FF7! This is a true remake!" kind of comments. I can't wait! 🫠
I do love FF9 though and so will definitely play it and enjoy it but as with other 1:1 remakes like Shadow Of The Colossus and Demons Souls etc it'll be a one and done "That was nice" kind of feeling. No remake has hit like FF7's for me, I like that they tried making it fresh y'know?
Star Wars Outlaws Dragon Age Veilguard Metaphor Assassin's Creed Shadows Space Marines 2
So yeah, pretty busy! Especially considering I'm currently making my way through Yakuza 8 and still need to play Baldurs Gate 3 and Rebirth Hard mode... God I need time off work so bad.
So more like Dragon Age Origins then? Picking places on the map and going there kind of thing? I dig it. I did prefer the more linear approach of Origins and 2 compared to Inquisition.
Eh. I'll make my own judgement. Not only is it Star Wars which is always judged harshly by itself but it's also by Ubisoft and so I tend to take previews and reviews of such things with a pinch of salt as they get judged far more strongly than others.
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Re: Panned PS5 Survival Horror Silent Hill: The Short Message Has Topped 3 Million Downloads
Certainly no P.T but it was OK. Definitely not the worst thing ever, especially considering it was free.
Re: Dragon Quest Creator Says Silent Protagonists Look Like Idiots
I hate silent protagonists when done poorly like Persona 3, 4 and 5 and Dragon Quest 11 where they don't even react emotionally they just nod like 😶.
But there are games where it works, in Crpgs like Baldurs Gate where it allows for more unspoken dialogue options and such.
Re: Bleach: Rebirth of Souls Gets First Real Look at Explosive Gameplay
The style looks really nice and definitely has that Bleach feel but I'm not sold on the gameplay yet. Anime games are extremely hit and miss these days.
Re: Feature: The 10 Best PS5 Games of 2024 So Far
Rebirth in at number 1 where it belongs. 😎
Re: Next Like a Dragon Title a Surprise for Fans, RGG Studio Teases
@Ryne-Gaia Lol most definitely. I didn't even say I don't like IW, just that it was disappointing but apparently that was all it took!
Re: Next Like a Dragon Title a Surprise for Fans, RGG Studio Teases
@Carck If you're only 10 hours into IW, your opinion might change. I think it's a good game but I found it incredibly slow and the story really didn't pay off. I just expected better after Yakuza 0,Yakuza 7, Gaiden, Judgement and Lost judgement which were all fantastic.
I do hope you continue to enjoy it more than I did though
Re: Next Like a Dragon Title a Surprise for Fans, RGG Studio Teases
@Czar_Khastik I wish more people would so they could understand what a mess actually looks like.
Re: Next Like a Dragon Title a Surprise for Fans, RGG Studio Teases
@DarkHitman82G And so are you with yours. Who cares? I don't need everyone to agree with me, infinite wealth was mid.
Re: Next Like a Dragon Title a Surprise for Fans, RGG Studio Teases
@DarkHitman82G Crazy how opinions work isn't it?
Re: Next Like a Dragon Title a Surprise for Fans, RGG Studio Teases
Infinite Wealth was extremely disappointing so hopefully it's better than that! Even a disappointing Yakuza title is still at least a 7/10 though.
Re: Random: You've Been Pronouncing Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree's 'Scadutree' Wrong
Nah, it'll always be scadoo now. There's no going back!
Re: Bleach: Rebirth of Souls Announced for PS5, PS4, and Yes, It's an Arena Fighter
Actually looked pretty sick. Definitely better than JJK cursed trash anyway!
Re: Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree Update Available Now, Here Are the Patch Notes
Rebuild database won't fix a damn thing lol sounds like BS.
Re: Golden Order Restored as Elden Ring's Shadow of the Erdtree Recovers from Review Bombing
I think review bombing is pathetic but I do think the DLC has some issues that people ignore because it's Elden Ring. The lands of Shadow is incredibly empty in the southern part of the map. No dungeons, bad loot, a handful of enemies and a few world bosses, it's pitiful.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Most Anticipated PS5 Game for the Second Half of 2024?
Metaphor Rephantazio, Assassin's Creed Shadows, Star Wars Outlaws, Dragon Quest and Dragon Age for me!
Slitterhead was probably the biggest disappointment for me.
Re: Players Won't See Every Dungeon in Metaphor: ReFantazio, JRPG Offers a 'Lot More Freedom'
@LikelySatan Yeah, I think they mean that due to the time limit, you won't be able to see everything in one run which is incredibly disappointing. I'm not necessarily a one and done type guy but I do like to get to as close to 100% as possible on my first playthrough so this is sad news.
Unless the game is only like 30 hours long or something but I doubt it. Atlus and their final super duper complete editions are definitely taking their toll as well. I hope Atlus learns their lesson eventually, their games are profitable enough now that they really can't justify pulling stunts like that anymore.
Re: Players Won't See Every Dungeon in Metaphor: ReFantazio, JRPG Offers a 'Lot More Freedom'
This is pretty disappointing, I don't have the time to replay a 100+ hour game 2-3 times to see all of it's content.
Re: FromSoftware Boss Uses Every Elden Ring Advantage: 'I Absolutely Suck at Video Games'
Everyone knows the right way to play the game is Bare handed, level 1, no armor, no healing, no dodging (because dodging is OP) no blocking, no Co-op, no Ashes, hands tied behind your back and blindfolded otherwise you're just another filthy casual.
So disappointed in you Miyazaki.
Re: PlayStation Likely to Go All-Digital By PS7, Analyst Predicts
Analysts have been saying this for years and haven't been right so far so... I don't really care. By that point, I'll have so many games that I can just replay them all till I die anyway.
Re: PS5 Fan Favourite Stellar Blade Sold Over 1 Million Copies, Dev Estimates
1 million seems low but hey, if its within budget and it turned a profit? Then congrats to shiftup and I look forward to what they do next. Maybe just hire some better writers
Re: Poll: Can a Game's Brutal Difficulty Put You Off Playing It?
@Logonogo No worries man. Honestly I think it was pretty deserved after I thought about it for a while.
Re: Poll: Can a Game's Brutal Difficulty Put You Off Playing It?
@Logonogo Yeah, I think we've already confirmed I was out of line. Thanks though.
Re: Poll: Can a Game's Brutal Difficultly Put You Off Playing It?
@PuppetMaster That's fair. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the main reason you should be playing games is for fun. Plain and simple. If the only positive aspect of a game is that it feels rewarding then I don't think that's a good thing.
I don't play Elden Ring to feel accomplished. I play it to have fun and the achievement of beating a hard boss is just a sidenote to me. Honestly most of the time I just feel relief after beating a hard boss 😅
Re: UK Sales Charts: Still Wakes the Deep and Elden Ring Share a Top 10
Damn. Hogwarts Legacy is still crushing it huh? I hope the sequel is good.
Re: Poll: Can a Game's Brutal Difficultly Put You Off Playing It?
I feel like the people mentioning a sense of accomplishment are missing something in their lives. You shouldn't need a video game to feel accomplished especially because it's a false sense of achievement. Beating a video game isn't really something you can brag about to anyone.
Like, "Everyone! I just beat Malenia!" OK congrats? No one cares.
Re: Poll: Can a Game's Brutal Difficultly Put You Off Playing It?
It depends. I do think FromSoft are going to hit a wall at some point, you can only make a game so hard yknow? I didn't like Nioh because it was too hard for me but I don't think it was a bad game, I just didn't have the patience to put in the amount of practice it wants me to. I just don't have that sort of time anymore.
I've been playing Souls games for nearly 15 years so I'm familiar enough with the games themselves that I've never reached that point of feeling like I'm wasting my time but with some brutally hard games, it can certainly feel that way and I imagine it feels that way for some who try Elden Ring for the first time too.
Do I think these games should have an easy mode though? No. I think the games are fine as they are. Some games just aren't for everyone and besides Elden Ring has an easy mode.
It's called Mimic Tear 😉
Re: Poll: One Year Later, What Are Your Thoughts on Final Fantasy 16?
@Porco If it took people years to warm up to 8 and 12 then aren't you judging 16 too soon?
So, judging games by comments you see on the Internet is somehow a better metric than critic and user scores? How do you justify that logic? Seems like you just have a bias you want confirmed. Your argument against 15 is essentially "I don't like it so reviews must be wrong".
Ps5 exclusives as a whole don't sell that well except Spider-Man, it's not just FF16. You only need to look at the other exclusives to see this.
You're really going to quote another Push Square article at me? This site isn't the best for genuine articles on Squares sales considering they use bloomberg as their source.
You're going to have to do better than this to "prove" the game is a failure worth worrying about because this evidence is shoddy at best.
Even the poll on this very site is against you, I don't even know what to say at this point.
Re: Poll: One Year Later, What Are Your Thoughts on Final Fantasy 16?
@Porco You haven't been paying very good attention then. A FF release hasn't been 100% celebrated by the community since FF7. Just because you see the reception on the Internet as divisive, it isn't the whole picture and to claim it is based on some articles on Push Square and posts on Reddit is ridiculous.
Look at opencritic or metacritic. How is an 80+ score divisive? That's overwhelmingly positive. It's just silly to see comments on the Internet and thinking "this must be representative of the entire fanbase". Only a small fraction of any fanbase is on the Internet discussing it and that's a fact.
They also said FF16 would meet their longterm goals so I don't know where you're getting the disappointing sales angle from either. It's in the top 5 best selling PS5 games.
Shadow Of The Erdtree is going through a bit of divisive arguments on the Internet itself at the moment. People claiming it's too hard and too inaccessible etc. I guess based on that I should be worried about FromSofts future? Come on bro.
Re: Poll: One Year Later, What Are Your Thoughts on Final Fantasy 16?
@fluffiethesock Right but some of these comments are implying they haven't liked the series for decades so why are they still here? It's bizzare. I can't imagine holding onto something for that long and still thinking you're going to get your "return to form".
Ever since 7 this sort of conversation around what is or isn't FF has reared it's ugly head and it's so tiring.
You couldn't have enjoyed them that much when you called the games after 10 an unrecognisable imitation. I've genuinely enjoyed every FF mainline game except maybe the first 3 and FF5? And I would say all of them despite their differences in gameplay all have that distinct FF flavour.
I see these takes a lot "what if the next ones a racing game" "what if the next one is like Tekken". It's disengenuine. The series identity hasn't completely changed because they decided to go from turn based to action combat. If that was the case then Yakuza died after 6 or Mario died as soon as it started going 3D or Resident Evil when it ditched tank controls etc.
Re: Poll: One Year Later, What Are Your Thoughts on Final Fantasy 16?
@Porco Please don't make the mistake of seeing 5 people comment and then thinking that's a representation of the entire fanbase. I mean no disrespect, it's just not a good analysis.
Edit: There are also just as many fans praising the game in the comments as there are hating on it so I don't see how you came to the conclusion you did anyway if I'm being completely honest.
Re: Poll: One Year Later, What Are Your Thoughts on Final Fantasy 16?
These kinds of comments sections are always so predictable. Why are some people on here still commenting about the series if they've hated it for over 20 years? Absolutely baffling.
Re: Round Up: We're All Sleeping on Capcom's Kunitsu-Gami, as Super Positive Previews Drop
It looks very nice but gameplay wise it's not something I'm looking for. I hope it does well though. We need more unique games like this, just a shame it's not one I'm personally interested in.
Re: Series Stalwart Mark Darrah Says Veilguard Is the 'Best Dragon Age Game' He's Ever Played
Gotta love gamers sometimes, if it's something they don't agree with "must've been paid to say it because I haven't played it but it looks ***** so it must be *****, therefore he must be lying"
Same thing happened when Sakaguchi said he liked FF16.
Re: Feature: Top 10 Best PS5 Games of 2024's Summer Showcases
I'd throw my vote at Metaphor. That game looks absolutely amazing.
Re: Bandai Namco Confirms Summer Showcase Stuffed with Announcements and Reveals
A new tales game please or better yet, Tales Of The Abyss Remaster! (why hasn't this happened yet!?)
Re: Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree Is the Highest-Rated DLC of All Time
There's no way it's better than Shivering Isles but then again... Nothing on that list is better than Shivering Isles so just goes to show how much score matters.
Re: Final Fantasy Creator's Mobile RPG Fantasian Is Journeying to PS5, PS4 This Year
All those Sakaguchi worshippers better put their money where their mouth is.
Re: Poll: So, What Are Your Thoughts on Dragon Age: The Veilguard?
@QiaraIris I feel like if you compare every game to what is essentially the gold standard then you're always going to be very disappointed. Why not just play BG3 forever?
Edit:Lmao they blocked me. Here I thought comments were for discussion!
Re: Poll: So, What Are Your Thoughts on Dragon Age: The Veilguard?
After seeing more, I'm looking forward to it! I'm waiting for pre-orders to go up now and I can't wait to finally get back to Thedas. It's been way too long.
Still think it would've done them a lot of favours if they released a Dragon Age Legendary Edition though and I won't shut up about it until it happens!
Re: Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (PS5) - Strong Sequel Seeks a New Direction
@ShogunRok I just finally got around to playing infinite wealth and being the petty person that I am, I had to come back and say that you straight up lied to me.
The mini-games in Yakuza are far more intrusive and distracting than anything in Rebirth. Dondoko Island? I have to play animal crossing before I can get back to playing the game I paid for? Or how about the bicycle mini game? Where I had to play it despite the game even admitting to my face that I had the money already, but it's going to force me to do it anyway.
The amount of times Infinite Wealth derails the main game for some whacky misadventures is staggering compared to Rebirth which just makes the conversation we had months ago completely baffling to me.
If Rebirth is padding it's main story with mini-games (which a majority of can be skipped, like the queens blood tournament) then Yakuza is doing it in spades. Can't believe you defended that the way you did. Yakuza's mini-games don't "exist alongside the main story" they literally are part of the main story at times.
Re: Final Fantasy 9 Remake Is Almost Certainly Real as Another Database Leak Appears
@J2theEzzo We have an... Ever Crisis within the fanbase you might say. 🧐
Re: Final Fantasy 9 Remake Is Almost Certainly Real as Another Database Leak Appears
@J2theEzzo FF fans have cried about every entry since 8. Something will be wrong with everything Square Enix does, even if the fans have to dig to the earth's core to find their favourite nitpick to hang onto for the rest of their lives.
Not unlike Star Wars, the FF fanbase is a cesspit.
Re: Final Fantasy 9 Remake Is Almost Certainly Real as Another Database Leak Appears
@Nei Yep. Definitely going to be seeing a lot of "This is what REAL fans wanted for FF7! This is a true remake!" kind of comments. I can't wait! 🫠
I do love FF9 though and so will definitely play it and enjoy it but as with other 1:1 remakes like Shadow Of The Colossus and Demons Souls etc it'll be a one and done "That was nice" kind of feeling. No remake has hit like FF7's for me, I like that they tried making it fresh y'know?
Re: The Rest of 2024's PS5 Release Schedule Is Finally Filling Up, and It's Looking Good
I'm interested in 5 of these.
Star Wars Outlaws
Dragon Age Veilguard
Metaphor
Assassin's Creed Shadows
Space Marines 2
So yeah, pretty busy! Especially considering I'm currently making my way through Yakuza 8 and still need to play Baldurs Gate 3 and Rebirth Hard mode... God I need time off work so bad.
Re: Final Fantasy 9 Remake Is Almost Certainly Real as Another Database Leak Appears
I'm sure people will whinge and cry about this one too.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Is Very 'Mission-Based', Not Unlike Mass Effect
@Maubari Fenris too! I miss him 😔
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Is Very 'Mission-Based', Not Unlike Mass Effect
@Rmg0731 I wish they'd do a Dragon Age Legendary Edition like Mass Effect.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Is Very 'Mission-Based', Not Unlike Mass Effect
So more like Dragon Age Origins then? Picking places on the map and going there kind of thing? I dig it. I did prefer the more linear approach of Origins and 2 compared to Inquisition.
Re: Preview: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Leans Hard into Companions, Choices, and Consequences
I'm liking it more the more I see of it which is a good sign! Looking like I'll go for the Harding romance, she a fine Dwarf 😏
Re: Scathing Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Previews Unfavourably Compare Gameplay to PS Vita's Uncharted: Golden Abyss
Eh. I'll make my own judgement. Not only is it Star Wars which is always judged harshly by itself but it's also by Ubisoft and so I tend to take previews and reviews of such things with a pinch of salt as they get judged far more strongly than others.