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@UltimateOtaku91 Right? Gaming has been the best it's ever been for me these past couple years. I've found myself completely overwhelmed with great games and I'm struggling to keep up.

I still haven't played infinite wealth or Granblue Fantasy yet because I've been busy with Persona 3 and FF7 Rebirth which are also incredible and Dragons Dogma 2 soon as well? Holy hell games are good right now.

I've never really understood the "no good games anymore" argument. Maybe they don't play Japanese games? 🤔

@GilgaMax96 You're not fooling anyone, throwing insults around shows that you're upset. It's OK, I apologise. I'll make sure to contact you for your expert opinion before I make any purchases in the future OK?

@GilgaMax96 The same way a whole bunch of people have steam libraries full of games they've never played. They were cheap so I bought all of them as I kept hearing they were so great in Jrpg circles. Not really hard to understand is it?

But yes based on what others said, the series may not be for me but I also expressed my willingness to try if better games stop taking up my time.

You come across like I offended you or something. Should I apologise?

@Matroska That's the other thing that puts me off because I've seen it mentioned before. I've also seen people say that the characters are deeper than their tropes too so it's conflicting. Definitely not an easy series to get into either way considering how many games are connected within it.

@McBurn Usually I can get past a certain artstyle or bad graphics so It's usually not a problem. I think you're right though and I'll probably pass on it.

If I ever find myself with nothing to play then I'll give it a go.

I have the whole trails series sitting on my shelf waiting to be played but it's just such a big commitment. Not sure if I'll ever get round to it. I always find the artstyle in their games to be incredibly bland too. It's not the graphics but just bad art direction.

Cool to see a handful of Drakengard fans in here. I started with Drakengard and would give a kidney to have a proper remake or full on new game in the series.

Some say that Nier Reincarnation is the 3rd Nier game but I just can't get into all that gacha nonsense and to tell me that it's a sequel to Automata is just insulting.

Just buy Physical and you'll almost never pay full price for a game. Problem solved! 😋

@Nei Very well said, I came back to the comments to say something similar but you put it far better than I had intended too. I never even thought about the one sided angle of it.

It is strange that they compare the weak aspects of Jrpgs to Western ones but not the other way around. All in all, they're different beasts.

Their first mistake was having expectations at all.

The original FF7 has been and always will be my number 1 game and I'm so glad to see that rebirth has been recieved so well and even rates slightly higher than the original. More Cloud and Co is all I need to love it.

In regards to complaints about side quests for this and FF16, I feel JRPG's in general are far behind games like Witcher and Elder Scrolls etc. Doesn't mean that can't and shouldn't change but I honestly can't think of a JRPG with actual good side quests.

So many good jrpgs releasing this year and 3 of them from Atlus. I'm glad SMT is still going strong alongside Persona as I do prefer the overall tone of the former. Looking forward to this seemingly hefty re-release!

@nessisonett I like that section too, it's key for the development of a lot of characters too so I hope it doesn't get changed. I think part 3 could fit it all in though since they have a lot of the world and gameplay already established. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

@ShogunRok Ahh I see what you mean. It's probably something I won't have a problem with personally but I get why it would be a problem for some. Thanks for the explanation

@nessisonett It would be difficult for FF7R to learn anything from FF16 since they were being developed around the same time. Wasn't disc 3 super short? Like pretty much just north crater? It's been a while.

I played the Junon update yesterday and have already fallen in love with the gameplay. Can't wait for next week!

@ShogunRok If the bloat is optional, then it's not really bloat is it? Isn't Yakuza the most bloated series ever by that metric? Or am I understanding this wrong?

Great! Now release Tales Of Abyss on PS5 goddamnit!

That's an unfortunate day of release next to Elden ring but still I'm looking forward to it!

@McBurn Oh man do I agree with that so much. Especially when considering that most Persona protagonists clearly have an already defined personality underneath the silent treatment. P3, P4 and P5's MC's are very clearly not "me" so might as well go all the way and just voice them.

Even Digital Devil Sagas main character wasn't voiced, I just don't get it.

1st person is a big disappointment. I wanted to see my cool mando armor 😞

@McBurn How dare you. Nahobino looks cool AF.

Loved SMT5 so would 100% buy again for the upgrades. Wish they'd remaster 4 though.

@Blaze215 I was thinking the same thing. 1.3m across all platforms sounds pretty poor to me. Compared to something like FF16 selling 3m on just the PS5 or a more unfair comparison, Spider-man 2 at 10m.

Not saying Alan Wake 2 is a flop or anything but it just doesn't sound like the grand success some people in the comments are making it out to be.

Wow... This comments section is awful. Funny how this comes up so often. MJ, Aloy and now Lara Croft herself. They all look fine and saying that any of them look like men just proves how delusional you all are. Stay away from real women... Please.

Persona 3 has always been my favourite and this remake has just solidified that stance. So happy that all my favourite games are getting such great remakes these days.

A new FF title, especially anything to do with 7, will always be a day one for me.

@Uromastryx oh I know, I was just being sarcastic. I love the game and have always known that it's just a loud minority on the Internet. Glad to see it's still thriving.

Looking forward to both, assassin's creed japan has been a long time coming.

I thought no one liked this game? How odd.

Yuffie and Red Xiii is enough for me! Only 3 weeks to go, can't believe it's so close.

I've always been a big japan nerd. Jrpgs, manga and Anime are my dominant hobbies so this is nice to see.

@Splat To be fair, it was missing really simple features like replaying missions, changing the time of day and being able to listen to JJJ in your collectibles. These were all in the first game but oddly just completely missing in 2.

Not sure if I should play or wait for the full release... Leaning on the latter.

If only this was a good game, I could actually be excited.

Can't wait to play this wonderful game twice just like the first part. Hard mode was a fantastic addition, sure I'll love every second.

Reload is essentially Fes but without The Answer (the answer was so incredibly boring anyway.) so I would still consider this the definitive P3. I hope they add an improved Answer and FeMC in the future though.

Moving goal posts how? That wasn't all you stated, you literally said that FF16 was a flop and I asked for proof and only recieved proof for the 3rd thing I asked of which was Square Enix's financial struggles.

Yes FF7 needs to succeed but I see no reason why it shouldn't so why is this even a discussion? Why so much drama? A business is heavily promoting their product because they want it to sell, big surprise.

@Ray_Ray_Regasis Again, as much as that article tries to claim otherwise by stating "mixed reviews" despite reviews being overall very positive. FF16 had nothing to do with the 2 billion loss. Even in this article it states multiple factors including mobile games and big flops like Forspoken.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/16hdajl/square_enix_loses_2_billion_in_value_after_ff16/

People on reddit can explain it better than me. If you truly want to understand the situation of course. I've seen your comment history though and how you feel about FF16 so I'm sure you'd like to continue believing it's a failure.

@Matroska Did you read the article? FF16 couldn't make up for the losses of flops like forspoken and marvels avengers. The 2 billion has nothing to do with FF16 itself.

They've stated that they're satisfied with FF16's sales which is rare for Square who consider pretty much everything a failure.

Square Enix (idiots that they are) were hoping FF16 would sell so much that it would help pull them out of a hole dug by the likes of Forspoken, Avengers, Triangle Strategy, Star Ocean, Valkyrie Elysium and all the other underbaked games they churned out.

Of course though even a mainline FF title can't do that much heavy lifting so FF7 and FF14 will help do the trick.

However FF16 was NOT part of the losses, it's a part of the recovery.
Of course though, there will always be people who want to belive otherwise because it's an entry they didn't personally enjoy but sorry FF16 was succesful.

Can't wait! Really hope I can finish persona 3 before this drops.

I don't need a demo, I already know this is a day one buy for me.

@Ray_Ray_Regasis The only true thing in that paragraph is that FF7 is a gem. Do you just make things up as you go along? Got a source for FF16 being a flop? Or that FF7 would need to sell such ridiculous numbers? Any proof that Square Enix is struggling?

Is the DLC on the disc? Or as a code? I hate it when they do codes.

Looks really good besides some slightly janky facial animations. I'll definitely be getting it, looks like there's a lot in way of customization.

I keep on seeing the idea thrown around that FF7 remake would've been better off if it was remade 1:1 but this isn't true for one simple reason.

Look at the Shadow Of Colossus remake or the Demons Souls remake. Who still talks about these games? Exactly... No one. I'm not saying that the 2 remakes I mentioned are bad, far from it but they are played, enjoyed and then mostly forgotten.

By splitting the FF7 remake into multiple games that have expanded and transformed FF7 into its own series, they've guaranteed that people will still be talking about FF7 for decades more to come. I'm glad they've done it the way they have, means more Cloud and Co to enjoy and makes the discussion around it more exciting.

Where FF6 is concerned, I don't really care if they remake it or not or how they do it but 20 years sounds dumb as hell.

I literally don't care. Day one purchase for me.

I'm playing right now, I love Reina as my new main. I suck at fighting games but still enjoy playing them.

It's sitting on my shelf right now waiting to be played. I'm holding off because Persona 3 is right round the corner, followed by FF7. Not to mention Granblu Fantasy and Tekken and oh my god there are just way too many games this year!

It's about damn time this patch released. They release an "ultimate edition" with bugs because once again, they rushed the release to get it out before Christmas. CDPR clearly never learnt their lesson. The constant praise they recieve is undeserved IMO even if I do love Cyberpunk to death.