I would be playing it right now but the collectors edition (which you can only buy from GAME) has not yet arrived. The woes of buying physical. Although usually my games arrive early due to ordering from ShopTo who put GAME to shame.
@CielloArc It's funny isn't it? FF16 and Rebirth sales are better even when being sold on one platform and Square still aren't happy. Wish they'd give us more updates because FF16 must be far past 4 million by now after the DLC's and steam release.
@ShogunRok Sure, I understand that. I guess they just sound like big negatives, dull dungeons and repetitive enemies have been big problems in other games for me. It's all subjective though. The early game is fantastic and I just hope that carries all the way through.
Strange to see 4 negatives only reduce the score by 1 point. Can't help but feel like if these same negatives were applied to another Jrpg it would've lowered the score more. Still, the game is amazing from what I've played of the demo. I preordered it way before that though, as I knew I'd love it anyway.
@Fishnpeas Lies Of P, Stellar Blade, Remnant 2, Wo Long, Rise Of The Ronin, Midnight Suns, A Plague Tale Requiem, Baldurs Gate 3, Metaphor Refantazio, Fate Samurai Remnant, Black Myth Wu Kong, Hogwarts Legacy, Kena Bridge Of Spirits, Lost Judgment, Tales Of Arise, Hades, Returnal, Scarlet Nexus, Granblue Fantasy Relink, Dragons Dogma 2 etc
I excluded a few others as I wasn't sure they fit what you were asking for. Like Resident Evil 8,Yakuza 8, Final Fantasy 16 and other games from long running series. There's probably more too that I'm forgetting as I don't play every single game ever.
@Fishnpeas I don't think so personally. There's plenty of great new games coming out alongside great remakes and the industry has proven we can have both. I don't see the problem.
Remakes always get this kind of negative attention don't they? The original will always be there, there's no need for things like this to happen but there are some truly sad people out there.
I just finished Legend Of Dragoon this morning as I've been working through the backlog recently. It was OK? A 6/7 out of 10 type game. I'm playing the Metaphor Demo now, ready for the release on Thursday and I love it already.
Feels like Atlus meets FF and I'm just soaking in as much of the atmosphere as I can.
I was on the fence a lot with this one and decided if the reviews were good then I'd give it a chance and to be sure, the reviews have been glowing. So I will be dipping into this one with somewhat low expectations still and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
@tameshiyaku Just wanted to add as well that Star Wars is so big and pushes out so much content that there is always going to be something that you may not like. I love Star Wars but there are plenty of Comics and Books that I haven't read and some shows that I didn't like or some Films that I liked more than others.
I've never understood the Star Wars fans that can't just take the good and leave the bad. I also find it funny that a lot of them must be grown men in their 40's by now and they still can't let it go.
Seeing all the 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro's on Ebay really gets under my skin. Went out of stock literally a few minutes before I got on there. Sonuvabitch.
@PloverNutter @Deityjester It's a good enough comparison because both games/IP's are far bigger than their controversies.
The average consumer of Assassin's Creed isn't going to care about any of the things you mentioned. If they did then the series would've started selling less after Origins but they just keep selling more and more with each entry.
@PloverNutter Shadows will be on all platforms day one and the controversy won't have any impact at all just like Hogwarts Legacy was unaffected.
Meanwhile Yotei will only be releasing on PS5 so I severely doubt it will sell more than Shadows. I'll be getting both anyway as I don't have a side in this and I find this whole Assassins Creed vs Ghost's thing really weird.
@Kingsleyx This is my problem too. The games always had this really serious plot with silly undertones and wacky side plots. I remember the most outlandish things were underground castles with tigers and rubber bullet murder plots.
Now the series is leaning way too far into its wacky side and I'm a bit apprehensive about the series' future. It might be heading in a direction that I'm not really interested in. Another problem for me is that they release new games a little too often and I'm starting to get burnt out.
Surprising that it's only a little bit higher than FF16 which released on Tuesday. I wonder if both will get a little bump up on the weekend?
Still, this means sales could be anywhere up to a million. I think FF15's peak player count was 29000 when it released and that still sold somewhere between 1 and 2 million Iirc.
I don't want it to end but if it does end with 4, I hope it's made to be as spectacular as possible! I have a lot of respect for Nomura and how much he's contributed to my favourite games ever.
FF7 Part 3 and Kingdom Hearts 4 will definitely be one hell of a swan song if he retires after that.
@Flaming_Kaiser If I could, I'd avoid LRG altogether but unfortunately, they're always the ones releasing physical games that I really want 😔 and I suppose without them, I wouldn't get it at all.
@Judal27 It's true that we still just don't really know the whole picture so there's a lot of assumptions going on. I would be interested to know the actual hard numbers for both FF16 and Rebirth, sales numbers won't affect my enjoyment of either game of course but I'd really like to know out of curiosity.
He is a brilliant artist, I'm looking forward to reading Choujin X one day.
@Judal27 Yep. Don't know what the deal is but FF really gets blasted a lot these days. People always just assume it's FF they're talking about so they get to have fun taking their own dunks on the games and why they believe they're "failing".
That's why these articles always have some of the most comments on this site.
From what I've researched, the only Jrpg's that sell better than FF are From's titles, Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Zelda and sometimes, funnily enough Kingdom Hearts... Out of all these, only Pokemon is turn based and we all know that isn't it's main selling point.
FF's problem is that it's budget isn't equal to the audience it's trying to sell to anymore. Games are just too expensive to make. If it was any of the other problems people in the comments are mentioning then Dragon Quest and Persona should be some of the best selling games ever but they're not.
Why do people think turn based would make FF sell better? What turn based Jrpg sells better than FF? Even Persona and Yakuza just barely surpass 2m when they release but anyway...
I want to mention one reason that I haven't seen brought up and I do believe there is a combination of issues as to why FF doesn't see the success that Square wants to see or what I personally feel it deserves.
Final Fantasy has a problem with having the reputation of being THE high budget jrpg series that delivers a graphical quality that other Jrpgs can't match. This obviously puts a huge cost on development and increases the need to sell more copies, especially for what is their flagship series.
The problem is though, I don't think the audience is there. No matter how good the Jrpg is (unless it's FromSoft... Maybe a soulslike FF would sell more? 😅) they just don't sell the 10m+ numbers that Square is hoping to see and I'm not sure they ever will.
I think it might be time to take a different approach and make FF games a little easier on Squares wallet to develop. I just don't think the Jrpg audience is big enough and clearly they feel the same by trying to attract fans of other genres to the series.
@AdamNovice I've never been into mods either. I dont mind using some that fix bugs or adds clothing and cosmetic items but I've never liked user made content that adds story and new areas no matter how well they may fit contextually.
Of course if people do like that then that's fine but it's just not for me personally.
@Arnna I agree with you. Whenever I see Skyrim thumbnails on YouTube and they're playing a character with modded boobs and butt, supermodel looks and while wearing a bikini too (for maximum defence I presume) I lose a bit more faith in humanity every time.
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Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Silent Hill 2?
Much better than I expected. Bloober really proved me wrong with this one. Still playing and loving every second!
Re: AI Limit PS5 Demo Available for One Week Only
Game looks awesome. Will definitely be giving this a go on the weekend. Asia is singlehandedly keeping the gaming world afloat.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Metaphor: ReFantazio?
I would be playing it right now but the collectors edition (which you can only buy from GAME) has not yet arrived. The woes of buying physical. Although usually my games arrive early due to ordering from ShopTo who put GAME to shame.
Re: Metaphor: ReFantazio Immediately Tops 1 Million Sales at Launch
@CielloArc It's funny isn't it? FF16 and Rebirth sales are better even when being sold on one platform and Square still aren't happy. Wish they'd give us more updates because FF16 must be far past 4 million by now after the DLC's and steam release.
Re: Metaphor: ReFantazio Immediately Tops 1 Million Sales at Launch
I was a little worried this would undersell so I'm glad to see I was wrong.
Re: Random: Hideo Kojima's Chronic Back Pain Symptom of Carrying Video Game Industry, Fans Say
I'm sure Kojima's ego is big enough already.
Re: Making Metaphor: ReFantazio, Persona's Immaculate Menus Is 'Really Annoying', Says Director
Metaphor's menus are truly beautiful. Atlus is definitely the best in this regard.
Re: Alien: Isolation Sequel Announced, in Early Development
This is the best gaming news this year for me. Let's goooo!
Re: Metaphor: ReFantazio (PS5) - Brilliant, Memorable RPG Is One of Atlus' Finest Works
@ShogunRok Sure, I understand that. I guess they just sound like big negatives, dull dungeons and repetitive enemies have been big problems in other games for me. It's all subjective though. The early game is fantastic and I just hope that carries all the way through.
Re: Metaphor: ReFantazio (PS5) - Brilliant, Memorable RPG Is One of Atlus' Finest Works
Strange to see 4 negatives only reduce the score by 1 point. Can't help but feel like if these same negatives were applied to another Jrpg it would've lowered the score more. Still, the game is amazing from what I've played of the demo. I preordered it way before that though, as I knew I'd love it anyway.
Re: Random: Internet Trolls Tried to Downgrade Our Silent Hill 2 PS5 Review Score
@Fishnpeas Lies Of P, Stellar Blade, Remnant 2, Wo Long, Rise Of The Ronin, Midnight Suns, A Plague Tale Requiem, Baldurs Gate 3, Metaphor Refantazio, Fate Samurai Remnant, Black Myth Wu Kong, Hogwarts Legacy, Kena Bridge Of Spirits, Lost Judgment, Tales Of Arise, Hades, Returnal, Scarlet Nexus, Granblue Fantasy Relink, Dragons Dogma 2 etc
I excluded a few others as I wasn't sure they fit what you were asking for. Like Resident Evil 8,Yakuza 8, Final Fantasy 16 and other games from long running series. There's probably more too that I'm forgetting as I don't play every single game ever.
Re: Random: Internet Trolls Tried to Downgrade Our Silent Hill 2 PS5 Review Score
@Fishnpeas I don't think so personally. There's plenty of great new games coming out alongside great remakes and the industry has proven we can have both. I don't see the problem.
Re: Random: Internet Trolls Tried to Downgrade Our Silent Hill 2 PS5 Review Score
Remakes always get this kind of negative attention don't they? The original will always be there, there's no need for things like this to happen but there are some truly sad people out there.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 549
I just finished Legend Of Dragoon this morning as I've been working through the backlog recently. It was OK? A 6/7 out of 10 type game. I'm playing the Metaphor Demo now, ready for the release on Thursday and I love it already.
Feels like Atlus meets FF and I'm just soaking in as much of the atmosphere as I can.
Re: Silent Hill 2 (PS5) - The Horror Great Remains So in This Excellent Remake
I was on the fence a lot with this one and decided if the reviews were good then I'd give it a chance and to be sure, the reviews have been glowing. So I will be dipping into this one with somewhat low expectations still and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
Re: Report Finds Lack of Star Wars Outlaws Sales Disturbing
@tameshiyaku Just wanted to add as well that Star Wars is so big and pushes out so much content that there is always going to be something that you may not like. I love Star Wars but there are plenty of Comics and Books that I haven't read and some shows that I didn't like or some Films that I liked more than others.
I've never understood the Star Wars fans that can't just take the good and leave the bad. I also find it funny that a lot of them must be grown men in their 40's by now and they still can't let it go.
Re: Upcoming PS5 Games for October and November 2024
Metaphor, Alan Wake 2 and Dragon Age for me. Can't wait! Would've been Assassin's Creed Shadows too but yknow...
Re: Report Finds Lack of Star Wars Outlaws Sales Disturbing
While the sales are definitely poor, it's hilarious to see people in the comments thinking this will be the downfall of Ubisoft.
Re: Sony Fights Scalpers in Japan By Demanding PS5, PS4 Playtime
Bit too late for me unfortunately but thanks anyway Sony.
Re: Dynasty Warriors: Origins Actually Looks Awesome in Live PS5 Gameplay Demo
I don't think I've played a dynasty warriors game since DW4 so maybe I'll jump back in with this one.
Re: PS5 Pro's 30th Anniversary Bundles Are Getting Flipped for $5,000
@jrt87 Doing gods work right there 👍🏻
Re: PS5 Pro's 30th Anniversary Bundles Are Getting Flipped for $5,000
If it weren't for scalpers I probably would've been able to snag one. I hate them on a deeply personal level now 🥲
Re: The Last of Us Season 2 Debuts in 2025, Here's Your First Look
I'm not looking forward to the renewed hate and controversy this will bring.
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
Seeing all the 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro's on Ebay really gets under my skin. Went out of stock literally a few minutes before I got on there. Sonuvabitch.
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
Keeps jumping between 8 and 11 mins 😭
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
Been in a waiting room since 8:30... This is really difficult to do while at work. (couldn't pass up that anniversary edition)
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed on PS5 Until 14th February
@PloverNutter @Deityjester It's a good enough comparison because both games/IP's are far bigger than their controversies.
The average consumer of Assassin's Creed isn't going to care about any of the things you mentioned. If they did then the series would've started selling less after Origins but they just keep selling more and more with each entry.
Re: Tekken 8 Heihachi Looks Like an Absolute Beast in First Gameplay Reveal
@MrPeanutbutterz Sure, I just thought they might have finally done something interesting for once. My mistake really.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed on PS5 Until 14th February
@PloverNutter Shadows will be on all platforms day one and the controversy won't have any impact at all just like Hogwarts Legacy was unaffected.
Meanwhile Yotei will only be releasing on PS5 so I severely doubt it will sell more than Shadows. I'll be getting both anyway as I don't have a side in this and I find this whole Assassins Creed vs Ghost's thing really weird.
Re: Tekken 8 Heihachi Looks Like an Absolute Beast in First Gameplay Reveal
I wish he stayed dead personally. I hate when video game plots have no real weight.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed on PS5 Until 14th February
What the heck!? Man... I was looking forward to this. Ah well, more time to play Metaphor and Alan Wake 2 I guess!
Re: Soul Reaver 1 & 2 Remastered Leaks for PS5, PS4
I really hope these sell well. I need my boys Raziel and Kain back!
Re: A Massive 75% of UK Game Sales Were Digital Last Month
@jrt87 I have 1 bookshelf and it holds all 600 of my physical games with space to spare. It's not that hard lol.
Re: Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii Might Be the Series' Most Insane Game Yet, Sailing to PS5, PS4 in February
@Kingsleyx This is my problem too. The games always had this really serious plot with silly undertones and wacky side plots. I remember the most outlandish things were underground castles with tigers and rubber bullet murder plots.
Now the series is leaning way too far into its wacky side and I'm a bit apprehensive about the series' future. It might be heading in a direction that I'm not really interested in. Another problem for me is that they release new games a little too often and I'm starting to get burnt out.
Re: Final Fantasy 16's Outstanding Soundtrack Finally Available on Music Streaming Services
I have the whole cd soundtrack but this will be fantastic for convenience!
Re: The Novelty of PlayStation's PC Ports Does Appear to Be Dampening
Surprising that it's only a little bit higher than FF16 which released on Tuesday. I wonder if both will get a little bump up on the weekend?
Still, this means sales could be anywhere up to a million. I think FF15's peak player count was 29000 when it released and that still sold somewhere between 1 and 2 million Iirc.
Re: Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii Might Be the Series' Most Insane Game Yet, Sailing to PS5, PS4 in February
I love Yakuza and all but I'll be passing on this one, doesn't really feel like an important entry.
Re: Here's Your First Good Look at Netflix's Devil May Cry Anime Series
Wasn't it a bit stupid to put Bosch as Dante? What if they introduce a Nero Anime at some point?
Re: Tetsuya Nomura Considers Retirement, and How to End Kingdom Hearts
I don't want it to end but if it does end with 4, I hope it's made to be as spectacular as possible! I have a lot of respect for Nomura and how much he's contributed to my favourite games ever.
FF7 Part 3 and Kingdom Hearts 4 will definitely be one hell of a swan song if he retires after that.
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
Goddamnit... This is going to ruin my self control.
Re: Mini Review: Lollipop Chainsaw RePOP (PS5) - A Sweet Return with a Bittersweet Bite
@Flaming_Kaiser If I could, I'd avoid LRG altogether but unfortunately, they're always the ones releasing physical games that I really want 😔 and I suppose without them, I wouldn't get it at all.
Re: Mini Review: Lollipop Chainsaw RePOP (PS5) - A Sweet Return with a Bittersweet Bite
By the time I get mine from Limited Run, hopefully it'll be in a better state!
Re: PS5 Exclusives Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Failed to Meet Expectations
@Judal27 It's true that we still just don't really know the whole picture so there's a lot of assumptions going on. I would be interested to know the actual hard numbers for both FF16 and Rebirth, sales numbers won't affect my enjoyment of either game of course but I'd really like to know out of curiosity.
He is a brilliant artist, I'm looking forward to reading Choujin X one day.
Re: PS5 Exclusives Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Failed to Meet Expectations
@Judal27 Yep. Don't know what the deal is but FF really gets blasted a lot these days. People always just assume it's FF they're talking about so they get to have fun taking their own dunks on the games and why they believe they're "failing".
That's why these articles always have some of the most comments on this site.
(cool profile pic of Ken BTW)
Re: PS5 Exclusives Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Failed to Meet Expectations
From what I've researched, the only Jrpg's that sell better than FF are From's titles, Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Zelda and sometimes, funnily enough Kingdom Hearts... Out of all these, only Pokemon is turn based and we all know that isn't it's main selling point.
FF's problem is that it's budget isn't equal to the audience it's trying to sell to anymore. Games are just too expensive to make. If it was any of the other problems people in the comments are mentioning then Dragon Quest and Persona should be some of the best selling games ever but they're not.
OK I'm done now.
Re: PS5 Exclusives Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Failed to Meet Expectations
Why do people think turn based would make FF sell better? What turn based Jrpg sells better than FF? Even Persona and Yakuza just barely surpass 2m when they release but anyway...
I want to mention one reason that I haven't seen brought up and I do believe there is a combination of issues as to why FF doesn't see the success that Square wants to see or what I personally feel it deserves.
Final Fantasy has a problem with having the reputation of being THE high budget jrpg series that delivers a graphical quality that other Jrpgs can't match. This obviously puts a huge cost on development and increases the need to sell more copies, especially for what is their flagship series.
The problem is though, I don't think the audience is there. No matter how good the Jrpg is (unless it's FromSoft... Maybe a soulslike FF would sell more? 😅) they just don't sell the 10m+ numbers that Square is hoping to see and I'm not sure they ever will.
I think it might be time to take a different approach and make FF games a little easier on Squares wallet to develop. I just don't think the Jrpg audience is big enough and clearly they feel the same by trying to attract fans of other genres to the series.
Re: Yoshi-P Pleads for Modder Restraint Ahead of Final Fantasy 16 PC Launch
@AdamNovice I've never been into mods either. I dont mind using some that fix bugs or adds clothing and cosmetic items but I've never liked user made content that adds story and new areas no matter how well they may fit contextually.
Of course if people do like that then that's fine but it's just not for me personally.
Re: Yoshi-P Pleads for Modder Restraint Ahead of Final Fantasy 16 PC Launch
@Arnna I agree with you. Whenever I see Skyrim thumbnails on YouTube and they're playing a character with modded boobs and butt, supermodel looks and while wearing a bikini too (for maximum defence I presume) I lose a bit more faith in humanity every time.
Re: PS5 Pro Shows Real Promise in First Expert Analysis
@nedbvai @get2sammyb It was a joke guys, calm down. No need to get so triggered.
Re: PS5 Pro Shows Real Promise in First Expert Analysis
I think I'll need another 100 Push Square articles before I can decide if I want one or not 🤔