@nessisonett No it wasn't. The PS5 runs games at PS4 Pro settings and brute forces framerates to whatever the lock is meaning a game like Monster Hunter World that has an unlocked framerate can reach 60fps on PS5 or a game like Just Cause 3 that had an awful framerate is now a stable 30fps on PS5. The PS5 Pro is using its upscale tech to now increase the image of PS4 settings something the PS5 is incapable off doing.
@Robinsad Concord did release but it flopped hard and Sony spent a stupid amount of money on it and has lost over $200M on it. Are you suggesting Sony spent $200M on a game and studio just to close it?
A certain crowd won't be happy 😂 Wish i could join in on the fun but well the £700 came out yesterday for the Pro meaning no new games for me this month haha.
@KilloWertz Gaming is a luxury no one is making you buy anything gaming related.
Doom Eternal can run with great visuals at 120hz so by your logic FF7 Rebirth should run at 120hz with great visuals as well.
As for Horizon yeah sorry i confused you with the other person who brought it up. My point still stands with it though and its worth noting its Performance mode looked terrible at launch for it to the point they had to pretty much remake the mode months later to fix its issues.
@KilloWertz You don't understand engines and how games are made do you. The fact you're using a PS4 game as an argument doesn't help you. Wanna know something DD2 and MHW are doing more then what Horizon is doing, its not all about pretty visuals you know. Yeah 1st party games are almost always above 3rd party for the reasons i explained, GG and Insomniac know the PS5 better then Capcom ever does and they both use engines tailored made for the PS systems and the types of games they like to make. Capcom uses the RE Engine an engine originally used for linear "smaller" games like DMC and RE, clearly the engine is struggling with open world games and its why DD2 and MHW look the way they do. Finally a lot of games rely on CPU but both PS5 and Series have really small CPU, chances are GTA VI will also have some drawbacks on console because of the CPU limitations. Its why DD2 performs the way it does on console because its CPU heavy like MHW.
@WizzNL Horizon 2 is still a PS4 game its just running on "ultra" settings on PS5, its not pushing the console in anyway as everything about it is rooted in last gen. The DLC is PS5 only but remove the cloud tech and it could have been put on PS4. You're also missing the point about it being a 1st party game, 1st party devs for Sony usually have their own engine and have more knowledge and experience with the console then 3rd party devs. In fact this applies to all console 1st party devs and its why Spidey 2, Forza Horizon 5 and Tears of the Kingdom are able to do things 3rd party games can't. Capcom Devs have to make a game for 4 different machines now 5 with the Pro and have to use an engine that clearly is struggling with more open bigger games, GG has their own engine and only need to worry about PS when making Horizon.
@Uromastryx I basically played enough to unlock the pendent thing for the full game. Character creator aside (best in series) i was really underwhelmed by everything.
End of the day Helldivers 2 proved it can work. The trick though is not chasing trends but creating new ones or expanding on existing ones, Helldivers 2 was a success because it offers something no other game offers with those production values.
Really unimpressed to be honest. Performance and visual issues aside (both are awful) i'm not too thrilled with the focus on story and rubbish set pieces. The combat is good at least but so far i can see this being my least favourite entry based on what the beta offers.
Also its pretty clear the RE engine is struggling with "open world" games based on this and DD2.
@McTwist Games flop in every gen and Black Myth is only a success because of China and honestly the hype for Black Myth is pretty much dead now, the PS5 version is still a mess with zero noticeble fixes and the while the game is good its kinda just that 7/10 good. Concord flopped yeah but Helldivers 2 was a big success so 50/50 on that front. End of the day though 60M+ players and 90%+ of them don't comment online moaning so you don't really know how the vast majority feel. People are not going to stop buying PS consoles why because no one cares for Xbox anymore and the Switch is pretty much the 2nd console so unless you think people are giving up gaming next gen the PS6 will be a big success like every PS console.
@McTwist So many people? Lol a bunch of people on PQ and Reddit moaning are not most people. 60M+ players and you think most of them aren't happy because a bunch of redditors and PQ users moan about trivial things.
@BeerMonster Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say whatever and expect no consequences. This is PQ house you expected to follow their rules. Sure though go to work tomorrow and call the boss the C bomb and see how far "freedom of speech" takes you with there response.
@zhoont I mean a character not showing up in a sequel is not really a spoiler especially when its been known for a while how the game treats the previous game.
I guess Matt Reeves dropped a big spoiler for The Penguin when he confirmed Batman won't appear. I guess Ryan Reynolds dropped a spoiler by revealing Cable won't be in D&W.
@zhoont Not really a spoiler as it appears the game just glosses over what ever ending the first game ended on. Basically both are canon and both endings will end Max in the same spot what is this game, think how in Zelda every timeline ends up at Breath of the Wild.
@Fishnpeas Sony released 27 games in Year 4 of the PS4? Yeah i want a list of these games as i feel context is missing.
Yeah shocker games take longer to make nowadays. Look at Assassin's Creed we have only had 2 games this gen so far and both are on last gen consoles. Games cost too much money now and require a lot of time to make so pumping out endless titles is just impossible. I listed 5 AAA games that are either console exclusive or straight up exclusive and that's more then both Nintendo and MS have released. There's also Lego Horizon to come as well. You're expecting too much from Sony and well everyone else.
@JokerBoy322 So you would rather no new better RT? Performance Pro gives you everything Fidelity mode on base PS5 offers but at 60fps so you got what you wanted both modes combined. Fidelity Pro is just for those who really want to push the visuals to the absolute limits.
I swear console gamers really don't understand how taxing and expensive RT is.
Yeah ok MS were going to slow down because Xbox players were salty 🙄 MS knew full well Xbox players were never going to be ok with this so i doubt they care over how Xbox players feel especially when so far the ports have done well on PS5 especially Sea of Thieves.
@JokerBoy322 They were never getting rid if the modes as its just too unrealistic. Fact is though the new performance mode gives you the fidelity mode features of the base PS5 at 60fps, the new fidelity mode is for those who want better RT.
@TrickyDicky99 Nearly all AAA games and big releases have physical releases and digital sales are always greater. People just prefer digital now because that's the age we're in. Convenience trumps all most of the time and digital is just more convenient.
@Max_the_German There's a difference between your CoD/Fifa player and the players that buy games like Black Myth and Metaphor. I'm not talking about the casual player who doesn't even know Stars is a thing i'm talking about the players who got both SH2 and Metaphor this month.
@Max_the_German £125 got you enough for £5. Digital sales are far greater then physical so i expect anyone who buys at least 2 new games each month gets that £5.
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Re: PS5 Pro Could Seriously Improve the Quality of Your PS4 Games
@nessisonett No it wasn't. The PS5 runs games at PS4 Pro settings and brute forces framerates to whatever the lock is meaning a game like Monster Hunter World that has an unlocked framerate can reach 60fps on PS5 or a game like Just Cause 3 that had an awful framerate is now a stable 30fps on PS5. The PS5 Pro is using its upscale tech to now increase the image of PS4 settings something the PS5 is incapable off doing.
Re: PS5 Pro Could Seriously Improve the Quality of Your PS4 Games
@Anti-Matter No it won't because it can't bypass a framerate lock. Trust me if it could Sony would make sure we would know Bloodborne is 60fps on Pro.
Re: PS5 Pro Could Seriously Improve the Quality of Your PS4 Games
As expected it won't improve framerates but it will improve the image.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Comes Out Swinging, Already EA's Biggest Single Player Game on Steam
@MrMagic Show me a source of Steam deleting negative reviews for the game.
Re: Labour Union Blasts Sony for Looking to Further Monopoly with Studio Closures
@Robinsad Concord did release but it flopped hard and Sony spent a stupid amount of money on it and has lost over $200M on it. Are you suggesting Sony spent $200M on a game and studio just to close it?
Re: Labour Union Blasts Sony for Looking to Further Monopoly with Studio Closures
Interesting they didn't say anything when MS closed a bunch of studios earlier this year.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Comes Out Swinging, Already EA's Biggest Single Player Game on Steam
@MrMagic Source or are you just making up BS?
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Comes Out Swinging, Already EA's Biggest Single Player Game on Steam
@Victor_Meldrew Its at mostly positive on Steam so i highly doubt it.
Re: PS5 Pro was a '5-Year Project', In Development Before PS5's Launch
This is standard for consoles, the PS6 was already in development when the PS5 dropped.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Comes Out Swinging, Already EA's Biggest Single Player Game on Steam
A certain crowd won't be happy 😂 Wish i could join in on the fun but well the £700 came out yesterday for the Pro meaning no new games for me this month haha.
Re: Sony Says the Best Time to Get a PS5 Is Now
Baldur's Gate 3 was out last year so unless you own a PC then its been worth owning a PS5 for at least a year.
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds' Beta Is Prompting Fans to Reconsider PS5 Pro
@KilloWertz Gaming is a luxury no one is making you buy anything gaming related.
Doom Eternal can run with great visuals at 120hz so by your logic FF7 Rebirth should run at 120hz with great visuals as well.
As for Horizon yeah sorry i confused you with the other person who brought it up. My point still stands with it though and its worth noting its Performance mode looked terrible at launch for it to the point they had to pretty much remake the mode months later to fix its issues.
Re: Croc: Legend of the Gobbos Remaster's Trophy List Will Challenge Your Gamer Instincts
I'm dying to play this. Hopefully it sells well and we get a remaster of the sequel as well.
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds' Beta Is Prompting Fans to Reconsider PS5 Pro
@KilloWertz You don't understand engines and how games are made do you. The fact you're using a PS4 game as an argument doesn't help you. Wanna know something DD2 and MHW are doing more then what Horizon is doing, its not all about pretty visuals you know. Yeah 1st party games are almost always above 3rd party for the reasons i explained, GG and Insomniac know the PS5 better then Capcom ever does and they both use engines tailored made for the PS systems and the types of games they like to make. Capcom uses the RE Engine an engine originally used for linear "smaller" games like DMC and RE, clearly the engine is struggling with open world games and its why DD2 and MHW look the way they do. Finally a lot of games rely on CPU but both PS5 and Series have really small CPU, chances are GTA VI will also have some drawbacks on console because of the CPU limitations. Its why DD2 performs the way it does on console because its CPU heavy like MHW.
Re: Concord Cost Sony Over $200 Million, And Didn't Make a Single Cent
@get2sammyb Should have done that Bloodborne "Director's Cut".
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds' Beta Is Prompting Fans to Reconsider PS5 Pro
@WizzNL Horizon 2 is still a PS4 game its just running on "ultra" settings on PS5, its not pushing the console in anyway as everything about it is rooted in last gen. The DLC is PS5 only but remove the cloud tech and it could have been put on PS4. You're also missing the point about it being a 1st party game, 1st party devs for Sony usually have their own engine and have more knowledge and experience with the console then 3rd party devs. In fact this applies to all console 1st party devs and its why Spidey 2, Forza Horizon 5 and Tears of the Kingdom are able to do things 3rd party games can't. Capcom Devs have to make a game for 4 different machines now 5 with the Pro and have to use an engine that clearly is struggling with more open bigger games, GG has their own engine and only need to worry about PS when making Horizon.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing the Monster Hunter Wilds Open Beta?
@Uromastryx I basically played enough to unlock the pendent thing for the full game. Character creator aside (best in series) i was really underwhelmed by everything.
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds' Beta Is Prompting Fans to Reconsider PS5 Pro
@WizzNL FW is a PS4 game and a 1st party game designed with PS hardware in mind.
Re: After a Tough Few Months, Sony Says It'll Keep Making PS5 Live Service Games
End of the day Helldivers 2 proved it can work. The trick though is not chasing trends but creating new ones or expanding on existing ones, Helldivers 2 was a success because it offers something no other game offers with those production values.
Re: PS5, PC Flop Concord Never Returning, Studio Closed Down
Wow. Kinda awkward for Amazon and Blur studios considering they have episode dedicated to Concord with that CG series they made.
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds' Beta Is Prompting Fans to Reconsider PS5 Pro
@Pat_trick I would say its more current gen consoles can't keep up.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing the Monster Hunter Wilds Open Beta?
Yeah i played an hour and then deleted it.
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds' Beta Is Prompting Fans to Reconsider PS5 Pro
@Pat_trick Rise of Ronin, Black Myth, SW Outlaws, Rebirth and more. Its not just one game its many games and the list is growing.
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds' Beta Is Prompting Fans to Reconsider PS5 Pro
@Vaultboy81 World is 60fps on PS5.
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds' Beta Is Prompting Fans to Reconsider PS5 Pro
Really unimpressed to be honest. Performance and visual issues aside (both are awful) i'm not too thrilled with the focus on story and rubbish set pieces. The combat is good at least but so far i can see this being my least favourite entry based on what the beta offers.
Also its pretty clear the RE engine is struggling with "open world" games based on this and DD2.
Re: Indiana Jones PS5 Dev Going Very Well, No Comment on PS5 Pro Just Yet
Will be funny if it does support the Pro as it would mean PS5 has the best console version.
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@WiiWareWave Yeah the limits have kinda been reached and its why most games have subpar image now.
Re: Random: Forward-Thinking PlayStation Gamer Spends $2,000 on 24 Years of PS Plus
@belmont Not being funny but you're in the minority especially when FF isn't even a big seller anymore.
Re: Random: Forward-Thinking PlayStation Gamer Spends $2,000 on 24 Years of PS Plus
@McTwist Games flop in every gen and Black Myth is only a success because of China and honestly the hype for Black Myth is pretty much dead now, the PS5 version is still a mess with zero noticeble fixes and the while the game is good its kinda just that 7/10 good. Concord flopped yeah but Helldivers 2 was a big success so 50/50 on that front. End of the day though 60M+ players and 90%+ of them don't comment online moaning so you don't really know how the vast majority feel. People are not going to stop buying PS consoles why because no one cares for Xbox anymore and the Switch is pretty much the 2nd console so unless you think people are giving up gaming next gen the PS6 will be a big success like every PS console.
Re: Random: Forward-Thinking PlayStation Gamer Spends $2,000 on 24 Years of PS Plus
@McTwist So many people? Lol a bunch of people on PQ and Reddit moaning are not most people. 60M+ players and you think most of them aren't happy because a bunch of redditors and PQ users moan about trivial things.
Re: Random: Forward-Thinking PlayStation Gamer Spends $2,000 on 24 Years of PS Plus
@McTwist Downhill? How did you work that out when the PS5 is killing it.
Re: Life Is Strange: Double Exposure (PS5) - Hallmark Series Loses Its Charm
@BeerMonster Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say whatever and expect no consequences. This is PQ house you expected to follow their rules. Sure though go to work tomorrow and call the boss the C bomb and see how far "freedom of speech" takes you with there response.
Re: Life Is Strange: Double Exposure (PS5) - Hallmark Series Loses Its Charm
@zhoont I mean a character not showing up in a sequel is not really a spoiler especially when its been known for a while how the game treats the previous game.
I guess Matt Reeves dropped a big spoiler for The Penguin when he confirmed Batman won't appear. I guess Ryan Reynolds dropped a spoiler by revealing Cable won't be in D&W.
Re: Life Is Strange: Double Exposure (PS5) - Hallmark Series Loses Its Charm
@zhoont Not really a spoiler as it appears the game just glosses over what ever ending the first game ended on. Basically both are canon and both endings will end Max in the same spot what is this game, think how in Zelda every timeline ends up at Breath of the Wild.
Re: Here Are 10 Great PS5 Horror Games to Play This Halloween
Dead Island 2 for me as the new update dropped last week. Might also get on and finish Silent Hills 2 as well.
Re: Spider-Man 2, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart PS5 Pro Updates Include Ray Tracing Toggles
@Fishnpeas Sony released 27 games in Year 4 of the PS4? Yeah i want a list of these games as i feel context is missing.
Yeah shocker games take longer to make nowadays. Look at Assassin's Creed we have only had 2 games this gen so far and both are on last gen consoles. Games cost too much money now and require a lot of time to make so pumping out endless titles is just impossible. I listed 5 AAA games that are either console exclusive or straight up exclusive and that's more then both Nintendo and MS have released. There's also Lego Horizon to come as well. You're expecting too much from Sony and well everyone else.
Re: Spider-Man 2, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart PS5 Pro Updates Include Ray Tracing Toggles
@Fishnpeas Yeah Astro Bot, Helldivers 2, Stellar Blade, FF7 Rebirth and Rise of Ronin never happened this year.
Re: Spider-Man 2, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart PS5 Pro Updates Include Ray Tracing Toggles
@JokerBoy322 So you would rather no new better RT? Performance Pro gives you everything Fidelity mode on base PS5 offers but at 60fps so you got what you wanted both modes combined. Fidelity Pro is just for those who really want to push the visuals to the absolute limits.
I swear console gamers really don't understand how taxing and expensive RT is.
Re: Microsoft CEO Says More Xbox Games Will Come to PS5, Hours After Rumours Said Porting Project Was Paused
Yeah ok MS were going to slow down because Xbox players were salty 🙄 MS knew full well Xbox players were never going to be ok with this so i doubt they care over how Xbox players feel especially when so far the ports have done well on PS5 especially Sea of Thieves.
Re: Gotta Sell Fast! Sonic X Shadow Generations Has Already Surpassed 1 Million Copies Sold
@Balaam_ So buy this one then or Frontiers.
Re: Gotta Sell Fast! Sonic X Shadow Generations Has Already Surpassed 1 Million Copies Sold
The Shadow campaign has been excellent so far.
Re: Spider-Man 2, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart PS5 Pro Updates Include Ray Tracing Toggles
@JokerBoy322 They were never getting rid if the modes as its just too unrealistic. Fact is though the new performance mode gives you the fidelity mode features of the base PS5 at 60fps, the new fidelity mode is for those who want better RT.
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
@TrickyDicky99 Yet a lot of people do buy digital and sales of digital games are increasing all the time as this very sites reports all the time.
The Pro and Slim are digital consoles unless you pay more for an add on.
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
@TrickyDicky99 Aren't those leaks kinda dated though? The shift is getting bigger and bigger hence why the Pro is a digital console.
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
@TrickyDicky99 and didn't Sony say around 70%+ of sales on Playstation are digital now or something?
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
@TrickyDicky99 Nearly all AAA games and big releases have physical releases and digital sales are always greater. People just prefer digital now because that's the age we're in. Convenience trumps all most of the time and digital is just more convenient.
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
@AhmadSumadi Yeah worthless to you.
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
@Max_the_German There's a difference between your CoD/Fifa player and the players that buy games like Black Myth and Metaphor. I'm not talking about the casual player who doesn't even know Stars is a thing i'm talking about the players who got both SH2 and Metaphor this month.
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
@Max_the_German £125 got you enough for £5. Digital sales are far greater then physical so i expect anyone who buys at least 2 new games each month gets that £5.
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
@AhmadSumadi Not worthless for digital gamers and considering digital sales far outweigh physical i would say the majority get worth out of stars.