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@K1LLEGAL Still plenty of cheap PSN codes online though, which is where most would buy from.

And for those who know what they're doing, the Turkey store game prices laugh in the face of discs. 👍

@stu123 That's like saying remote controls were invented because people were too lazy to get off their sofa to change TV channels.

I mean, it's true, but it's also abundantly clear one is more convenient than the other.

For a lot of these, the pattern will probably be few months on the store, with a couple of ever larger sale discounts, then dumped on Plus Essential. Which is not too bad, as at least you know they don't get rotated out of that.

No Sackboy Big Adventure?

Nah, if this is for anyone it's for the helmet-wearing tools. not the rest of us.

People expect a bunch of amazing (to them) games every month?

Can't ever happen, whatever Sony put on, because games people REALLY want, they've probably already bought day one or in a sale.

And if those appear, then that's wrong too because people moan that they already own everything good, so it's a 'crap' month.

Sounds good - should be some super cheap prices for those of us lucky enough to be able to buy on the Turkey store 👍

@GoodGame The issue is that if you purchase Premium with discounted PSN credit and during a sale, it's more like £62 a year, and if you purchase Essential on the same basis it's £31 a year. Harder to argue Premium isn't worth an additional £31, and if you compare Extra against Essential, then that difference drops to just £21 a year on the same basis.

For me, the problem with these higher tiers hasn't turned out to be price related, rather that it's caused me to play more 'good' or 'interesting' games on the service that I'm not particularly invested in (but feel I should play because I'm paying a sub for it all), rather than getting back to my library of unplayed or partially played purchased stuff.

Opportunity cost is a real thing, unfortunately.

I also wasn't expecting to feel disconnected from the Extra and Premium games in the way I do. Not owning them really has changed the way I feel about them, just can't get into them the same way. Even the PS+ Essential games I don't suffer from that mindset, because as long you keep your basic sub going, which we pretty much all do, then those games aren't going anywhere. The Extra and Premium ones, on the other hand, who knows when they drop in and out of availability.

It's a weird one, and I'm sure most people aren't bothered by the above, because more choice is good, right?!

Turns out not always.

Admittedly I'm a long time fan of twin stick shooters, but I really loved The Ascent.

@johncalmc I found the original characters both incredibly annoying and incredibly boring. I ploughed through to the end of the game because of all the hype, but imo it was all a bit 'is that it?'

This won't be making it into my backlog, for sure.

$1.2M fine?

Damn...he's probably down to his last $17M or something now.

Grabbed Octopath Traveller for around £15 on the Turkey store, that'll do for me on this sale.

@Smiffy01 Absolutely, same here. Final Fantasy XVI cost me £26.

@mrbone Yep, I share with a friend on other side of country. Good luck to those trying to do that trick with discs.

@tomassi I guess it's like if you see a dog poo on the ground whilst out on a walk. It's there, it's 'free', but would you pick it up because of that?

@Snake_V5 Plenty of us don't use physical (and increasing every year) so it makes perfect sense. Keep the drive as an add-on for the minority for the rest of this gen. Then, in all likelihood, digital only for PS6.

I was looking forward to F1 Manager 22 for a long time....ended up being pretty disappointing. Lots of bugs, expected features missing, weird mis-application of F1 processes (IE sign a new driver in the game and they always start immediately, not at start of next season) and not-fun parts such as set-up 'mini-game' during practices.

So only a deep sale would get me buying this year's iteration.

A lot of these comments remind me of the ones that always pop up when discussing motion sickness in VR.

Namely, that individuals who don't suffer from a certain issue proclaim the issue doesn't exist, or that it's always the user's fault. 🤣

So not much point at all buying FM24 then.

Excited for Alan Wake.

Goes and reads Pushsquare review.

Not so excited. 6/10 and reads like lower than that

@Mintie in this post-truth world, he'll just describe all those clips as 'fake news' from 'haters'

Ah, Microsoft.....it's almost like the word hubris could have been invented especially for you.

@sanderson72 PS4 is now last-gen, and PS5 is current-gen. There is no next-gen now.

A lot of the issue is with media outlets, including Pushsquare, incorrectly still referring to PS5 upgrades as 'next-gen'. You'd think that they at least would get their terminology correct. They should just say 'game x is getting a PS5 upgrade'

@JustPlainLoco had vertigo for the first time a month or so ago, so can sympathise.

I had two days of constant nausea, vomiting, room spinning if I turned my head more than a few degrees. Unable to keep food or even much drink down without throwing it up shortly after.

Anyone who thinks it just means you feel a little dizzy (myself included until I had it) are way off. It was a vile experience.

I've gone from 'Because of backlog and all the stuff on Extra, I'll probably pick this up in a sale or wait for it to reach PS+' to 'OK, I pre-ordered.'

@PsBoxSwitchOwner £27 on Turkey store.

Just pre-ordered for £27 via the Turkey store.

Bargain!

I have Premium until 2031, but only because I grabbed a load of PS Now to gain from the conversion to Premium when it started.

If I hadn't used that loophole then would have gone for Extra.

How do I decide what to play and when from the masses of good stuff on Extra?

Nice problem to have, but still a problem.

@Darude84 Starfield is a hard no after the revelation that it only runs at 30, even on the X. I'm done with 30.

Looking forward to this though.

@Old-Red So people who have accumulated enough wealth to not be bothered or remotely affected by what you describe as 'inflated costs' are fools huh?

Not sure about that logic. 🤣

They're a business. Believe it or not, they'll have already done the numbers and factored in the foot stampers who want their discs back and who would rather spite themselves than buy a game they otherwise would have.

If this is confirmed then, like Alan Wake 2, they simply don't GAF, so digital refuseniks can piss into whatever wind they like.

@ATaco Indeed, but let them die on whatever hill they want to.

@Athrum wow, you're really sticking it to the man aren't you? I'm swooning.

I've saved loads through Extra, and the games I do buy I save loads on by getting them off the Turkey store.

Perfectly happy with the current situation!

Looking at this price, Dragon's Dogma gonna be coming to
some form of PS+ soon then.

I loved the part where they said you could use this contraption to record video: "Relive a memory as if you're right back in the exact moment."

Yes, relive that memory whilst all your family/friends ask why you have a pair of oversized diving goggles covering most of your face, and laugh at your ridiculous appearance.

@Exerion76 Not really cheaper on disc if you use the right PSN store, especially when combined with these sale prices.

Ragnarok for £25, for example. Dead Island 2 for £23. Not interested in either of those right now, but I did pre-order FFXVI for £32 the other day, so it's all good.

@Ravix I thought everyone did that?! Anyone who pays full PSN price for subs or games are doing it wrong.

For games, I don't even use the UK store. Pre-ordered FFXVI for £32 the other day from the Turkey store.

Great savings out there if you look in the right places.

Loads of people won't ever use VR because of the motion sickness.

And it doesn't matter how many people who don't get motion sickness try to claim you can 'train' yourself out of it or, even worse, imply that because they don't get it, it isn't even a real thing.

If you get badly sea sick, would you go out on a boat for pleasure? If you get dizzy from spinning around, would you pay money to go on a Waltzer for fun, just because other people say that they don't throw up and that eventually you might get used to it?

Nah. Even if it had a clear software roadmap, I prefer that lovely clear headed feeling.

"You hear that Mr. Anderson?...That is the sound of inevitability..."

Digital only future is coming, and not buying specific games because of it won't change anything, but hey, one can choose to die on any hill they like.

Am I crazy to be trying to wait until all three parts of FFVII remake are out before playing them all?

So far so good, but it might get tougher when Rebirth comes out and I know I still have years to wait.

Disc buyers: "When digital takes over, we won't ever ever ever buy any games again, we pwomise."

Rest of world: 🤣

@AndyKazama yeah apart from Cats Quest, I also liked Dragons Dogma 2 and the new game from Night in the Woods dev.

@KaijuKaiser Indeed! The almost pathological hatred of digital here (and it's definitely more here than most other sites) is weird.

It's not even properly informed. It's easy to buy cheap PSN credit that takes around 15% off the store price, sales are plentiful, and if you want even cheaper prices (far cheaper than physical, in fact) then there is the Turkey store. FF XVI £32, anyone? That's what I paid for my pre-order the other day, and I look forward to playing it on my UK account on release day. Some people even still seem to believe disc games take up less space than digital (!)

Now to be fair, I'm someone who hasn't used discs for any form of media for many years, and wouldn't ever go back to them for any reason.

But regardless of all that, people complaining and pretending that they won't ever buy games in a digital future are basically pissing in the wind at this point anyway.

@AndyKazama haha when Cat Quest 3 was the highlight of the show for me too....it's maybe not the best look.

I'll be interested to see how it turns out, but the crazy hype I used to join in on with Rockstar games has long gone.

Also, how on earth do they deal with woke, which wasn't a thing for previous releases? If they 'lean into it' even one iota, I'm leaning out entirely.

Hardly ever preorder games, but £33 quite the bargain for this one so made an exception. Can't wait.

@Palleon "they have been trying to brake into the US..."

I see what you did there.😀