Whether or not the technology justifies the price tag is completely missing the point, exactly the same as it did with the PSVR2. The problem is Sony having the gall to rinse the whales of 700 quid upwards for very little tangible reward, even if that is a fair price for all the extra terryfloops. The whole sorry affair just reeks of arrogance and whatever the noun for being out of touch is.
@themightyant I begrudge them, I begrudge them plenty! I have two kids, I can't buy this nonsense. I already have to get my Lego purchases delivered to the office in case the wife finds out I've been splurging again. Imagine if I came home with this 700 quid white elephant. She would destroy me.
@themightyant I am. To go with my £530 PSVR2, my £180 Dual Sense Edge controller thingy, my £150 sony ear muffs or whatever and my £13 a month crazy pills prescription. Hell I'll add on the remote too while I'm at it.
And then play the whole damn thing on the £200 Portal so as not to benefit one tiny bit.
@tinCAT-zero The US pricing does not include tax as this depends on which state you purchase it, so once you factor that in it is essentially the same as other regions.
@themightyant How can you possibly compare Tetris, a game you pay for once and then own in its entirety forever, with a game that relies on you consistently shoveling money into it with no endpoint in order to see the whole game?
No one is complaining the gacha games are too much fun, we are complaining that the monetisation model relies on a small percentage being rinsed for all they are worth, whether they can afford it or not. It's grubby and I don't like it, same as all f2p stuff.
@TheAmbienWalrus Sorry to hear that mate, I can't speak with any authority here as it is not something I have experienced, unlike yourself. I just think it's important to point out that just because someone can in theory play these games paying very little that shouldn't excuse them because they rely on that small percentage of gamers paying way over the odds in order to sustain them.
You are quite right it is all F2P stuff, not just gacha games. And yes I certainly include Fifa like someone mentioned previously. That's even worse as it comes on the back of a full price game.
@themightyant And people are also free to raise concerns about games using a model that preys on those with an addictive nature in order to rinse them for as much and as long as possible.
"PlayStation is paring back production"? How can they possibly produce any less than they currently are!
Unless they start physically going into people's houses and taking away their copies of Call of the Mountain, it would be impossible to have any less output than the zero they are currently managing.
My understanding is that in order to survive more than 5 minutes in the DLC you need to have a character at a ridiculous level, like 150 or something. Therefore it's hardly surprising that it has reviewed so well as the only people able to play it are already Elden Ring superfans
@MikeOrator That Tallneck set was beautiful wasn't it, I almost got it and I've never played a Horizon game. After this and the Lego Deku Tree set they have just announced I am dreaming of a Lego Zelda game next but I can't ever see Nintendo allowing that to happen unfortunately.
Ghost of Tsushima had a lot of similar criticisms levelled at it, namely another generic open world game full of the usual tropes, however I absolutely adored that game. I guess because I haven't played any of the Ubisoft open world games everyone seems to hate but continue buying anyway, so I don't have that fatigue. Sounds like if you are like me and are not burned out yet on open worlds you can probably add a couple to the score.
Having said that the best thing about Breath of the Wild was the exploration and discovery was left up to you. I'm amazed that 7 years on games still aren't copying it but instead sticking to their guns and just cluttering maps with icons.
@Pinkman Wii U was abandoned by the players, not Nintendo. It had great first party games like Mario Kart 8, Breath of the Wild, Pikmin 3, Mario 3D world, Smash Bros, Mario Maker etc etc. First party support was actually the only thing going for it. The fact Sony has gone an entire year without so much as even announcing a game for the PSVR2 is absolutely criminal
I thought Stellar Blade looked really generic, but I don't mean that as an insult, I just want to point out that it's pretty incredible that we have reached a stage in gaming where something that looks as amazing as Stellar Blade does can now be considered as fairly unremarkable.
If I were WB I would get this on Game Pass/PS+ straight away. Eliminates the bad news stories about the inevitable poor sales and increases the initial player base considerably. Would also make the grubby microtransactions a bit easier to swallow.
@thefourfoldroot1 Unfortunately you are arguing the merits of the F2P model with someone who voted Honkai Star Rail as the best game released last year. No wonder he is defending this one too. And no wonder Sony are (were?) going all in on live service. Hopefully it is not too late for them to change course.
Switch sales up 39%? That's mad for a 6 year old console! What a phenomenal machine it has been. I really hope this doesn't delay the Switch 2 release though.
It's not a "snub" just because it didn't win. There are like 200 Emmy categories ("Outstanding Main Title Design" anyone?) and only half a dozen or so Golden Globe ones so it's hardly surprising. You can't complain of being snubbed if you were nominated at least.
2017 for the Switch's first year takes it for me. Two of the all time greats in Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey plus so many other brilliant titles like Hollow Knight, Cuphead Resi VII, Horizon, Nier Automata, Prey etc etc.
Looking at all the winners there it's a good thing that Sony are investing their future in story driven single player games and not some GaaS nonsense. Oh wait..........
@DrVenture69 Cheers pal and sorry for the spoilers! If it helps you are actually ahead of me on career mode - the golf course is in the bonus section. To make things worse I just know I'm going to buy the Back to the Future DLC. I don't have time for this - but I cannot stop!
@Kalime78 I was thinking exactly the same thing actually. Before I used to complain about these predatory type of practices but now if these idiots are the ones keeping the game price down then that's much better for me I guess. I'd rather some whales paid out hundreds whilst I just pay for the base game and nothing else. Same goes for these ridiculous Collector's Editions you get nowadays.
If you buy these then that's on you. People must be spending on this nonsense or they wouldn't do it. Personally I wouldn't buy these if they were £8 let alone £80 because I have never understood the appeal of cosmetic microtransactions, but clearly others feel differently or they wouldn't exist. If we all stopped paying money towards this nonsense then it will all go away (and be replaced by something newer and even more reprehensible).
Oh cool I have this? I had no idea it was on PS+ Extra. Nice one. Hopefully it hangs around longer than Stray, that came and went on the service before I got a chance to play it.
People seemed a little cool on GoT but I absolutely loved it. The setting was fantastic the combat was simple but fun and the platforming sections were extremely underrated - I thought it even outperformed Uncharted in this regard so I really hope they expand on it in the inevitable sequel.
I'd forgotten all about this, the name certainly doesn't help. It looked brilliant in the Playstation showcase though so really interested in giving it a go.
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Re: 'It Makes Sense Why the PS5 Pro Price Is So High,' Say Tech Experts
Whether or not the technology justifies the price tag is completely missing the point, exactly the same as it did with the PSVR2. The problem is Sony having the gall to rinse the whales of 700 quid upwards for very little tangible reward, even if that is a fair price for all the extra terryfloops. The whole sorry affair just reeks of arrogance and whatever the noun for being out of touch is.
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Add an Ultra HD Disc Drive to PS5 Pro
@Shalooda I make it in the office and then try and smuggle it home without her noticing. I am yet to be successful.
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Add an Ultra HD Disc Drive to PS5 Pro
@themightyant she's already got me on the waitlist for that too.
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Add an Ultra HD Disc Drive to PS5 Pro
@themightyant I begrudge them, I begrudge them plenty! I have two kids, I can't buy this nonsense. I already have to get my Lego purchases delivered to the office in case the wife finds out I've been splurging again. Imagine if I came home with this 700 quid white elephant. She would destroy me.
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Add an Ultra HD Disc Drive to PS5 Pro
@themightyant perhaps my original post needed more sarcasm because obviously I am not shelling or for this monstrosity.
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Add an Ultra HD Disc Drive to PS5 Pro
@themightyant I am. To go with my £530 PSVR2, my £180 Dual Sense Edge controller thingy, my £150 sony ear muffs or whatever and my £13 a month crazy pills prescription. Hell I'll add on the remote too while I'm at it.
And then play the whole damn thing on the £200 Portal so as not to benefit one tiny bit.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
@tinCAT-zero The US pricing does not include tax as this depends on which state you purchase it, so once you factor that in it is essentially the same as other regions.
Re: Wuthering Waves Officially Confirmed for PS5
@themightyant How can you possibly compare Tetris, a game you pay for once and then own in its entirety forever, with a game that relies on you consistently shoveling money into it with no endpoint in order to see the whole game?
No one is complaining the gacha games are too much fun, we are complaining that the monetisation model relies on a small percentage being rinsed for all they are worth, whether they can afford it or not. It's grubby and I don't like it, same as all f2p stuff.
Re: Wuthering Waves Officially Confirmed for PS5
@TheAmbienWalrus Sorry to hear that mate, I can't speak with any authority here as it is not something I have experienced, unlike yourself. I just think it's important to point out that just because someone can in theory play these games paying very little that shouldn't excuse them because they rely on that small percentage of gamers paying way over the odds in order to sustain them.
You are quite right it is all F2P stuff, not just gacha games. And yes I certainly include Fifa like someone mentioned previously. That's even worse as it comes on the back of a full price game.
Re: Wuthering Waves Officially Confirmed for PS5
@themightyant And people are also free to raise concerns about games using a model that preys on those with an addictive nature in order to rinse them for as much and as long as possible.
Re: Wuthering Waves Officially Confirmed for PS5
Hooray, another predatory gacha game! We almost went 10 minutes without one.
Re: Celebrate PowerWash Simulator's Second Washer-Versary with Free, Filthy Content
Hooray - time to punish myself and my free time once again! Why do I play this? I've no idea, but that's what I do.
Re: Sony Is Allegedly Pulling PSVR2 Funding, Report Claims
"PlayStation is paring back production"? How can they possibly produce any less than they currently are!
Unless they start physically going into people's houses and taking away their copies of Call of the Mountain, it would be impossible to have any less output than the zero they are currently managing.
Re: Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree Is the Highest-Rated DLC of All Time
My understanding is that in order to survive more than 5 minutes in the DLC you need to have a character at a ridiculous level, like 150 or something. Therefore it's hardly surprising that it has reviewed so well as the only people able to play it are already Elden Ring superfans
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Has a Meaty 30-Hour Main Story
Perfect, sounds spot on to me. I don't care what anyone says, I'm looking forward to this one.
Re: Reaction: You Said You Were Sick of PS5's Sad Dad Sims, So You Better Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is
@MikeOrator That Tallneck set was beautiful wasn't it, I almost got it and I've never played a Horizon game. After this and the Lego Deku Tree set they have just announced I am dreaming of a Lego Zelda game next but I can't ever see Nintendo allowing that to happen unfortunately.
Re: Reaction: You Said You Were Sick of PS5's Sad Dad Sims, So You Better Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is
Am I the only one excited by Lego Horizon? Not seeing much chatter about it but I thought it looked great.
I will also be getting Astrobot even though (whisper it) Astro's Playroom was a tad overrated.
Re: Rise of the Ronin (PS5) - A Safe, Outdated Open World Game
Ghost of Tsushima had a lot of similar criticisms levelled at it, namely another generic open world game full of the usual tropes, however I absolutely adored that game. I guess because I haven't played any of the Ubisoft open world games everyone seems to hate but continue buying anyway, so I don't have that fatigue. Sounds like if you are like me and are not burned out yet on open worlds you can probably add a couple to the score.
Having said that the best thing about Breath of the Wild was the exploration and discovery was left up to you. I'm amazed that 7 years on games still aren't copying it but instead sticking to their guns and just cluttering maps with icons.
Re: Random: Our Twitter Timeline Is All Tifa from Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth on PS5 Right Now
@Max_the_German Hey, that's my Ma you're talking about!
Re: Random: Our Twitter Timeline Is All Tifa from Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth on PS5 Right Now
I also like boobies
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of PSVR2, One Year Later?
@Pinkman Wii U was abandoned by the players, not Nintendo. It had great first party games like Mario Kart 8, Breath of the Wild, Pikmin 3, Mario 3D world, Smash Bros, Mario Maker etc etc. First party support was actually the only thing going for it. The fact Sony has gone an entire year without so much as even announcing a game for the PSVR2 is absolutely criminal
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of PSVR2, One Year Later?
Has there ever been a console so utterly abandoned by it's creator this quickly?
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced During Sony's State of Play Livestream for January 2024?
I thought Stellar Blade looked really generic, but I don't mean that as an insult, I just want to point out that it's pretty incredible that we have reached a stage in gaming where something that looks as amazing as Stellar Blade does can now be considered as fairly unremarkable.
Re: Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth (PS5) - The Best Yakuza Game Ever Made
@LiamCroft Nice review mate. How is this game for newcomers to the series?
Re: Lunar Lander: Beyond Is Atari's Latest Revival of a Classic on PS5, PS4
This looks amazing! Seriously, how did they manage to make Lunar Lander look this cool?
Re: 18 PS5 Predictions for 2024
It shows how terribly Sony have treated PSVR2 that predicting them just to release a single game for it counts as a long shot.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want from Sony and PlayStation in 2024?
No. More. Live. Service.
Re: Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League Previews Are Far from Positive
If I were WB I would get this on Game Pass/PS+ straight away. Eliminates the bad news stories about the inevitable poor sales and increases the initial player base considerably. Would also make the grubby microtransactions a bit easier to swallow.
Re: Immortality Brings Marissa Marcel's Lost Films to PS5, Out 23rd January
Worth pointing out that if you have Netflix then you already own this game on mobile so check it out there.
Re: Apex Legends Fans Are Absolutely Irate with the Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Event's Pricing
@thefourfoldroot1 Unfortunately you are arguing the merits of the F2P model with someone who voted Honkai Star Rail as the best game released last year. No wonder he is defending this one too. And no wonder Sony are (were?) going all in on live service. Hopefully it is not too late for them to change course.
Re: PS5's UK Sales End 2023 Down by 19%, But Still the Leading Console
Switch sales up 39%? That's mad for a 6 year old console! What a phenomenal machine it has been. I really hope this doesn't delay the Switch 2 release though.
Re: The Last of Us HBO Wins Eight Emmy Awards, Snubbed at Golden Globes
It's not a "snub" just because it didn't win. There are like 200 Emmy categories ("Outstanding Main Title Design" anyone?) and only half a dozen or so Golden Globe ones so it's hardly surprising. You can't complain of being snubbed if you were nominated at least.
Re: Poll: Was 2023 One of the Best Ever Years for New Game Releases?
2017 for the Switch's first year takes it for me. Two of the all time greats in Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey plus so many other brilliant titles like Hollow Knight, Cuphead Resi VII, Horizon, Nier Automata, Prey etc etc.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Wins Big in PS Blog Awards, Including PS5 Game of the Year
Looking at all the winners there it's a good thing that Sony are investing their future in story driven single player games and not some GaaS nonsense. Oh wait..........
Re: Major Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League Spoilers Break Containment
Is it possible to spoil a game that no one is looking forward to in the first place?
Re: The Last of Us' Cancelled PS5 Multiplayer Was 'More Fun' Than Any Other Online Game
@NotSoCryptic Could you put in a good word for Fenyx Rising and try to get the sequel resurrected? That would be great, cheers.
Re: PS Plus' PowerWash Simulator Just Got Free Festive DLC, Available Now on PS5, PS4
@DrVenture69 Cheers pal and sorry for the spoilers! If it helps you are actually ahead of me on career mode - the golf course is in the bonus section. To make things worse I just know I'm going to buy the Back to the Future DLC. I don't have time for this - but I cannot stop!
Re: PS Plus' PowerWash Simulator Just Got Free Festive DLC, Available Now on PS5, PS4
@DrVenture69 Sign me up. Just spent two hours cleaning the damn mini golf course - WHAT AM I DOING WITH MY LIFE?!
Re: 19 Amazing Games Join PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
Disappointed that the Mega Man collection is gated behind Premium but I'm delighted that Tinykin is in Extra, that's been on my wishlist for ages.
Also does anyone know why I already have GTA V on my PS5 even though I have never bought it? Did Sony already give it away before or something?
Re: PlayStation Blog Wants Your PS5, PS4 Game of the Year Votes
Pikmin 4 for all of them
Re: Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora (PS5) - A World We Don't Want To Leave
As big and successful as the Avatar franchise is I have never met anyone who confesses to be a fan of it.
Re: Hideo Kojima's Death Stranding Documentary Will Air Exclusively on Disney+
@WolfyTn And how can you know that if you haven't watched the programmes?
Re: Street Fighter 6's Awesome New Outfits Are Out Now, But Fans Are Fuming at the Prices
@Kalime78 I was thinking exactly the same thing actually. Before I used to complain about these predatory type of practices but now if these idiots are the ones keeping the game price down then that's much better for me I guess. I'd rather some whales paid out hundreds whilst I just pay for the base game and nothing else. Same goes for these ridiculous Collector's Editions you get nowadays.
Re: Street Fighter 6's Awesome New Outfits Are Out Now, But Fans Are Fuming at the Prices
If you buy these then that's on you. People must be spending on this nonsense or they wouldn't do it. Personally I wouldn't buy these if they were £8 let alone £80 because I have never understood the appeal of cosmetic microtransactions, but clearly others feel differently or they wouldn't exist. If we all stopped paying money towards this nonsense then it will all go away (and be replaced by something newer and even more reprehensible).
Re: More Classic PS Plus Premium Games Look to Have Leaked Early
I think I must have a different definition of the word "classic"
Re: PS Plus Extra Game Teardown Is Out Now on PS5
Oh cool I have this? I had no idea it was on PS+ Extra. Nice one. Hopefully it hangs around longer than Stray, that came and went on the service before I got a chance to play it.
Re: Guide: PS Portal FAQ - All Your Questions Answered
No Bluetooth is an astonishing decision. Absolutely unforgiveable in my book.
Re: Interest in Destiny 2 Reportedly at an All-Time Low
Good thing Sony hasn't invested its future in the live service sector ....oh wait.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima Movie Making Progress as Director Heaps Praise on the Game
People seemed a little cool on GoT but I absolutely loved it. The setting was fantastic the combat was simple but fun and the platforming sections were extremely underrated - I thought it even outperformed Uncharted in this regard so I really hope they expand on it in the inevitable sequel.
Re: Jusant (PS5) - Tactile Traversal in an Arid, Atmospheric World
I'd forgotten all about this, the name certainly doesn't help. It looked brilliant in the Playstation showcase though so really interested in giving it a go.