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Companies do R/D projects all of the time so that they can be competitive. If Xbox seriously launched a handheld before Sony, Sony wouldn’t want to miss out. As Sony is a hardware company at its core. This could be a niche product for Sony just like the Pro. Assuming they can make a profitable SOC that can appease the fans multiple high demands. Developers already complain about the series s and x SOCs. They will complain even more if Sony has three. As the console developers haven’t optimized their workflows.

@djlard the switch has real physical media. Something that I hope the switch 2 has. A switch is the best handheld device IMO because one doesn’t need an internet connection down the line when one has an urge to play a game they bought physically.

@Friendly Sony isn’t a charitable organization. They are for profit. Like all for profit hobby vanity companies, shareholders appreciate it when consumers continually buy into their ecosystem. No one is forcing us to be gamers. Personally id save the anti-consumer tag for later. As these companies really want everything to be internet of everything with subscriptions and no ownership. No that really messes up the consumers.

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare yup plus their rising average salaries and middle class. If console gaming grows in that country western developers will have to step their game up as most of the world lives outside of the west. As the china market could become one of the top most significant markets just like the car market. We shall see mate.

I’m very glad for them about the sells! Social awards mean little. Their real award was a good reception worldwide by consumers and high profits from actual sells. I would like to see more console games from eastern developers with each passing year. More variety, creativity, and competition will be a good thing.

This game sold well enough because dragon age is a popular IP. Not surprised how it has done considering that most consumers blindly will buy a new release from [insert IP here]. As most people don’t do research or are in the know. I am one of those people whom don’t buy games or movies if they fail my standards, having the wrong ethos.

@Voltan Hopefully Sony understands that there are many of us whom still like our physical media. And the PS6 better have an option for a drive. I hope you can get a drive soon at the manufacturer suggested price.

@Bez87 yea and the hobbit was a relatively short book compared to the more in depth LOTR books.

@Wario_Waha Sony isn't a charity organization mate. Of course they are about making money. Hobbies cost money and we aren't entitled to whatever hobby we choose in life. Gaming is a hobby and the costs have increased for hardware makers and software makers. All while how much people want to spend remaining the same despite purchasing power decreasing. Anyways these issues are a developer issues.

@Neither_scene it is priced appropriately. Considering that Sony has to pay for another production line for the SOC, plus the R/D money for this new SOC which will lead in the PS6.

People keep saying we haven’t seen what the base consoles of the current generation can do. Yes we have albeit a few examples plus remasters. Alan wake 2 is new, Final fantasy 16 and a few others. Yes the base is good but it’s not as strong as many believe. As 4K gaming requires a lot of muscle and near 4k is what many desire. With six more tflops than a PS4 pro and a weak sauce CPU this isn’t enough to see massive “leaps” in graphical fidelity with high resolution and high frame rates for developers to leverage. Yes it’s true optimization plays a huge role for everything.

The point of the pro is that going forward is that for new games it will be able to run the base code better to achieve higher resolution and FPS. The next six years we will see that those that got an PRO will be able to enjoy both modes all in one for a new current generation game. I.e. KCD2 will likely be locked to 30 fps across the board but rumors are that the pro will be 60 fps.

With all of that said the PS5 and Pro still are great package deals for what they are. Considering the low costs. Consoles are good. Even the series consoles. Especially the series S.

@Dalamar that’s the thing that always bothered me about any game award. There are so many different types of games. Similar to how I feel about an RPG costing the same as a 90s style fighting game.

@breakneck no different than western award bodies promoting various mainstream western games. Ignoring popular eastern titles.

@TommyNL yes I do mate. At its core Sony is a hardware company. A significant portion of the entity is hardware based. From blu-rays, Sony Walkman's, Bravia TVs, music services, and movie production. I’m tracking what the entity offers. Hardware is a significant part of their business and they must manage it well.

@MrPeanutbutterz not nonsense. My point is that Sony and Nintendo will manage their IPs better because they need to sell software. Software keeps people in their ecosystems. Xbox is backed by an almost exclusive software company whom has dreamy profit margins because the software industry has lower overhead with more revenue than other industries. If Sony and Nintendo cannot move hardware they will be in huge trouble.

@zupertramp I also thought they would leverage all of these acquisitions to push out exclusives. They have so many studios even before buying Bethesda but their output schedule was/is horrendous.

@MysticWangForce that’s not how IPs work. Sony and Nintendo have hardware to move to keep their investors happy. As they are hardware companies. Both companies are under no obligation to share IPs just because people feel these days that we should all share so others shouldn’t be left out. That’s not how hobbies nor industries work. Companies exist to make money for their owners and keep their advantages no matter how big or small.

Sony and Nintendo are hardware companies. They need people into their ecosystems. Microsoft as a software giant can afford to be more liberal with how they manage their IPs. Even so IMO they shouldn’t exit the hardware space.

@zupertramp to be fair. Microsoft acquired multi-platform studios whom were already selling to other platforms. I think most of us expected that most games would still show up eventually. But not Xbox is giving up everything. As that doesn’t make sense.

@pyrrhic_victory I’m sure that will be next. As without their recent acquisitions, that game would have been multi-platform anyways.

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare I don’t understand the mindset that Sony isn’t consumer friendly. Sony is a for profit publicly traded company. They are a hardware company at heart too. So they need people to buy their physical products.

But yes i want the Xbox brand to stick around. As competition is good for any industry as that’s how innovation comes in faster.

The PS base isn’t necessarily the Nintendo base. It seems that many were expecting this game to sell way more. I think the reality is that there just isn’t as many PS gamers whom are interested in this type of game.

Not every Sony first party studio release has to be a knockout. That’s never really been the case. As long as Sony studios break even and make a profit. Then all is well. We all can hopefully get a variety like the great PS3 era. Was quite a few games for many.

@somnambulance the games you listed are completely different types of games. I don’t think Astro bot is a bad game but I had no interest in it on the PS4 nor do I now. There is a market for all types of games to be made by Sony. I’ve always found game of the year awards lame. As there are so many different categories that launch each respective year.

Not bad considering many of us couldn’t get a PS5 the first two years without jumping through hoops. I expect the generation to last longer. When the industry finally mostly supports the current generation of consoles with system sellers then we can expect overall PS5 sells to be high.
PS has the potential to grow even more due to east Asia. Lastly nice to see Sonys hardware doing well as they are a hardware company mostly at the end of the day.

@IOI the PS5 came out and was announced nearly 5+ years ago. Had big hype. Every time there is a mid life cycle product that is updated there will be coverage. It’s the same for other industries. I don’t see people getting so mad about their favorite phone brand releasing products quite often which they want people to update 8 months later.

I enjoyed watching people play this game online. I had no idea that Sony was involved and that it wasn't on xbox. Sony should have kept this IP under their umbrella if they spent some of their coin on it.

@ED_209 Sony won't port those games just like Nintendo won't port their games. As both Sony and Nintendo have hardware to sell as its a huge part of their business.

@Bobobiwan yes! I’m really curious about the Witcher 3 and cyberpunk.

It’s a PS4 game so nothing to really brag about. While pro owners will enjoy it no doubt. I hope the next Gran Turismo is for a current generation console and not developed for cross generation consoles. It would be very nice to get GT8 developed for the PS5 only.

@riceNpea the Series X was very forward thinking for its design. Firstly it’s well built and the form factor is great. MS really innovated with its chipset. MS was banking on developers leveraging certain things. As a none lead platform, developers naturally focused on the PS. As if a game can run on the PS5, it can easily run on the series X which can brute force its way. Which is why the series x hasn’t seen comparable or better performance for the same titles the last few years. I remember when reviewers used to roast the Xbox one for it being so down on GPU power compared to the PS4 which was also a lead platform. Now the XSX being more powerful doesn’t matter. Obviously the series s is weaker but it’s just a matter of detuning the graphics. The pro is a mid generation refresh for a six plus year old SOC which is the base PS5.

@OldGamer999 Sony’s highend TVs have always been competitive. The thing with electronics and one typically always gets more if they pay more. The only this is objectively if it is worth it to someone for any said product.

@zupertramp fair point mate. I just misinterpreted your original comment. Yes you are right that the Pro isn't next generation. Perhaps the informed people know this but perhaps those whom are less informed whom read into the marketing terms will be lured into getting a pro. Thinking its going to fundamentally change the same games out now. Then those could be the biggest people disappointed.

@thedevilsjester we are very similar in regard to console preferences. I only use my PC for RTS games, despite it being more capable than the current crop of consoles I own. For me I prefer to play in front of a big TV and sit on the couch.

RA2 is what got me into the C&C games. A great RTS.

@LogicStrikesAgain yea unfortunately there is no way to regulate this. As that would involve interference by the government or company. And we don’t need more oversight TBH. Sucks that there are those that seek to make a huge profit on every little thing because they are so money driven. Hopefully Sony has enough in production presently.

@get2sammyb I think they seriously underestimated the demand dir the disc drives. As it’s not good for accessory’s to accumulate in stock for any company. But I’m pleased that pro owners want the physical media.

@GeeForce I don’t think so man. The PS5 will still be able to play every game lunched for PS and likely 4 years until the PS6 lifecycle. Unless we get a real next generation. Sony won’t allow for the base PS5 to suffer. Just like MS doesn’t allow series s owners to be punished for not spending the money on the series x.

@kyleforrester87 ah man it’s definitely a shame! Zero hour was such a great add on that there was no reason to ever go back to the base game. Yes generals was very underrated. I didn’t like any of the follow projects in the C&C series. Yes the soundtracks were great!

I can only play these RTS games on a PC. I’m not sure how people play on consoles.

@kyleforrester87 C & C generals zero hour. My favorite of the series.

I’m really looking forward to KCD 2 next year.

@Weebleman also another thing too is that MS recently got rid of Xbox live. They forced Xbox live players to get subsidized gamepass recently. There are a decent percentage of people that only want to play online games and aren’t interested in GP. If Microsoft offered an online only tier that is cheaper I’m sure it would bring them some money too.

@Bionic-Spencer this generation unlike previous generations has focused so much on cross generation titles. A majority of the present library for PS5 and the Xbox Series titles is cross generation. So no real leveraging of the current generation of consoles. But the games there were developed for this generation of consoles look nice and justify the current crop of consoles. Hopefully the next four years of PS5 and Xbox series consoles we will see great games that define this generation.

No loss for those of us in the main gaming body.

@Lavishturtle I don’t feel sorry for them. Some lashed out at potential buyers as they didn’t take kind to feedback received. It was clear that the developers were proud of their work. But doesn’t matter in the world of business in which customers reject it.

@SoulChimera it wouldn’t be a special edition if it was so “easy” to access. Across all industries special edition anything usually has some shenanigans involved to get it. Part of the charm for special editions for human nature. Plus it builds brand marketing.

I wish less Sony studios were working on live service games. If more Chinese gamers bought a PS in the future and expressed interest in these types of games. Then sure a variety of live service would be good for such a large player base. However I think in the west the live service market is so saturated right now. Who does Sony think will be playing their multiple live service games? As people usually stay on one for a while to include the established ones. I haven’t been a fan of Bungie since Halo Reach which was an excellent title for those whom didn’t play it.

It will sell decent because the game has dragon age in the title. It’s a popular IP. But I’m sure most of the sells will be of fans whom feel duped and will have buyers remorse. I never care what critics have to say about a game or movie that interests me. BUT it’s always telling when a game is reviewed in a critical manner by those not within the “in” crowd and they don’t get review codes. It’s always the same when fans have legitimate criticisms then normie outlets like IGN praise something.