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I’m not surprised at all. People were roasting this on various social media platforms since it was announced.

@Max_the_German they did give it an identity mate. It just didn’t click with the main audience.

Depends on the type of game as not all games are equal. I always thought it was odd that games fighting games like tekken cost the same as a long RPG like Skyrim. I have no problem paying a high price for a quality and lengthy story driven game like the Witcher 3. But overall the cost of consoles and new games haven’t kept up with inflation like every other industry. The gaming hobby has remained mostly the same. But the backend costs have gone up for companies a part of this industry. No matter what the prices are. Gaming provides more entertainment hours per purchase than a movie per se.

@SlipperyFish as you know PC gaming is less optimized which is why consoles can look similar with less strength available. 1080p isn't bad with upscaling technology. The casual gamer won't really care unless the FPS foundry makes a deal out it. As long as a game is smooth is all that matters IMO. A series X is available if an xbox gamer wants a higher pixel count or better graphics.

@Zeke68 sorry I didn't explain it well! I meant that a digital code comes in the box as an insert along with the physical disks. This is common for the market I buy from.

@RagnarLothbrok it’s just laziness on the developers part in not wanting to develop for another SOC of the same family. Although this SOC is the same as it’s bigger brother but just weaker in raw graphical theoretical processing power. It would be different if the Series X was bespoke and the series s bespoke with different architectures.

@KundaliniRising333 if a game can run on the series X it can run on a series s. It’s just a matter of tuning the game to a lower setting. This game came out on PC so the developer has experience with making a game with minimal hardware requirements in mind. All of the negativity surrounding the series s is just laziness on the developers part. In the old days the consoles were more bespoke. Developers had a bigger learning curve. The problem is now, Xbox isn’t near PS in terms of units in the field. But the numbers aren’t small enough to ignore IMO. I fell bad a little for Xbox. Since PS5 is now the lead platform for developers. And it has been said that the series x power advantage isn’t a big deal. I think even FPS foundry even said so and praised the PS5. Yet I remember last generation Xbox one always getting roasted for being down on power in which the PS4 was more powerful and the lead console. And always was better in comparisons. So to sum it up, it really all comes down to developers. And they have shown they don’t really care for an optimized Xbox port as a whole. Since the series x is more powerful it can brute force its way, thus making the series s more annoying for developers.

I doubt Sony would waste money doing this especially since they are in the lead hardware wise against Xbox. Xbox has been poorly ran for a decade now so Sony has time to get itself together but they are running on previous prestige. Even if they did do it so what. It’s not like they have been on a major buying spree since they don’t have the money like their competitor.

@IOI Its not my type of game but I think it will be successful. I think its good for sony to have more of these "nintendo" like games on PlayStation. Plus judging by how we are all starved for exclusive PS5 content, I think it will sell reasonably well. But who knows what Sony has in mind as far as what good sells means for this title.

@Zeke68 Yea silly choice on your friends part. Besides when one buys a new blu-ray or 4k UHD there is often a digital code included in the box! And its not like the stand alone digital version is significantly cheaper for any movie. So why not buy physical and have all formats. Plus the physical copy can never be censored. Same for physical books. And most importantly all one needs is the physical medium for the physical content then it will always be available. No going through logins down the line if the account still exists.

@get2sammyb I hope you are right mate and there is indeed a connection for it. As this would be a total let down for me.

@dskatter well if Sony stuck with the bespoke cell engine for the PlayStation brand, PS3 wouldn't be stuck. Instead we got a cheaper and less impressive for present time "off the shelf" SOC for the PS4 and PS5. And to them it hasn't been worth it to really develop a native emulator that could brute force its way through PS3 games if one has a disc. Instead they prefer the half baked solution.

@Zeke68 Yup. I still buy blu-rays. Home theater is the only way I watch movies as I have a good system. If I'm lucky the movie I want comes on 4k UHD which isn't always the case. I refuse to accept "digital" based end user agreement ownership for the console space.

If there is no disc drive or the option to add the detachable disc drive, I will not be buying this as I had planned to. As I only buy discs for console games due to longevity as I hang on to consoles. Plus, I won't be able to play the disc PlayStation games I presently own. I refuse to "buy" AA and above digital console games.

@DETfaninATL specialized software or in other words AI is relatively new. AI wouldn’t help this game. AI codecs or software need copious amounts of data to assist with procedural generation. The pathetic player count for this game wouldn’t help create a good AI in which human players wouldn’t it. Now a game like COD with several years of data could help. However as far as I’m aware developers don’t have a “black” box to track our inputs when we play these games then steal it. Like every AI steals data that was already stolen (collected) by companies like google. But why would you want that mate? Paying to play online with bots? The masses would reject it but some would be okay. Just like some sign up for AI GF services.

A great game! I really miss the PS3/X360 generation!

@dskatter why sad? I liked those old days of PlayStation mostly being the place to play more serious eastern console games that weren’t Nintendo.

We shall see. I still prefer CIV 5 because of the excellent mod support. The idea of changing civs is odd to me. As that is not how things work throughout the ages. I know it’s a fantasy though. But ancient Egypt is well before the Songhai empire which is sub Sahara. Doesn’t make sense to me.

I’ll definitely be getting this PS5 pro. As when the PS6 comes out, The first five years of PS6 will be gross generation most likely. So i figure the pro will give me plenty of headway as I highly doubt PS6 will have exclusive next generation content upfront.

With more advertising to a wider modern audience I’m sure it can bring more players haha. Funny seeing this game on my FB ads and people roasting it. It is what it is.

Seriously, the F2P market being crowded isn’t the full reason that this game has failed.

Good for them! I support non-gelded developers! Hopefully more eastern content can come to the world market.

@ashipaw yup that’s the narrative in the Anglo realm. Which is why they have to ruin established IPs from yesteryear. Has been this way for a few decades. Fortunately east Asia and the rest of the world isn’t gelded. I hope to see more games from more corners of the world. As everyone has some interesting stories.

They just need to market it more to further reach out to the modern audience! I’m sure that will work haha.

@Rich33 many families that make up a large percentage of the console base aren’t going to switch to PC. PC gaming is still a niche market unlike the rest of gaming avenues. The only threat from the PC arena that could sway console gamers is the portable PCs or decks. Even so every deck owner I talked too is a typical PC guy in the know. Never have I encountered a gamer from the normal pool so to speak whom has one of those decks. To sum it up consoles will be fine. Console games going to PC is just a way for Sony to make more money while not messing up their console sells unlike Microsoft.

Nice! I'd like to see more eastern developers make games. As they don't cater to "modern audiences" for their entertainment.

@Drago201 PC isn’t a direct competitor for the console space and likely never will be. Many families aren’t going to invest in a gaming PC when there are other needs. Console games going to PC doesn’t mess up prospective console sells.

Yes the industry is changing indeed mate. Just not everyone will be so liberal with their IPs like Xbox under software rich Microsoft. Sony and Nintendo will manage their IPs better because they need people to buy into their hardware ecosystem. As if both companies don’t turn a profit on gaming they won’t survive. Nintendo is fully gaming and based in the vanity entertainment industry. Sony to some extent as well but profit margins for other Sony divisions are nothing like a software company. So PlayStation must have a reason for existing.

Maybe PC will attract more players. But I highly doubt it. There are plenty of games like this to play on PC. Or maybe the modern audience is bigger on PC than it is consoles and I'm solely mistaken haha!

Concord will still fail with its gross characters and lackluster player counts for the betas. Perhaps I'm wrong and the modern audience for concord will step up for this game!

@Savage_Joe To be fair, all data centers in the world are resource intensive. And judging by how many people support subscription services, data centers will continue to grow. As long as data centers are powered by nuclear or some other renewable energy all will be okay in the future. As normies are fully invested in this internet of everything world. So more data centers will come online. Servers are constantly on including the assets owned by your employer.

@Neither_scene PC gaming is a bit different. As for the gaming PC crowd there are many parts vendors in which all components will talk to each other in the windows environment. The consoles aren’t built like that as you know. Also the PC gaming community isn’t the console gaming crowd. So when a console game goes to the PC and not another console, it doesn’t mess up any prospective console buyer.

I understand where you are getting at with the GPUs. But they all play within the same PC environment which has standards. A PC gamer will have the same experience on which ever GPU vendor he chooses for his windows based machine. As PC games are coded to run in a windows environment and the hardware choices just help achieve whatever stats one is after. Which is all relative. The latest gimmicks the three GPU makers advertise to help brute force their way through unoptimized code doesn’t impress me. I say this as someone whom has a well built PC.

Corporate exclusivity is beneficial to Sony and Nintendo. Microsoft is a software company and wants to be everywhere. Sony and Nintendo are hardware companies and aren’t software rich. They need people to buy into their platforms physically, otherwise they will just shutter operations.

IMHO people need to get over this access for all mindset. As that only facilitates the rise of mega corporations across all industries. Gaming is a hobby and hobbies cost money.

@WhiteRabbit yea remember it vividly as I purchased a surface book at the time. And it took me forever to find a standalone version of Microsoft word. It was really buried on the store front. And even now they still seem to hid this option.

Imagine that, gamers want to play a game that is free of DEI and projection.

@Logonogo people need to stop listening to FPS DF whom only offers criticism and no real value. People should go back to enjoying games that suit their tastes. Now of course how cyberpunk launched was unacceptable but most games launch playable.

This game will fail except among the select few it appeals to.

@WhiteRabbit subscriptions are what corporations want to push on everyone at all echelons. They are even creeping into the automotive industry for hardware that is already on ones own car that they paid for lol! I detest this internet of everything push.

@breakneck agreed. As they are all existing IPs from the more creative 20th century. Indy isn’t as strong with the younger crowd as it is the older one. I wasn’t excited for Xbox when this was revealed because it’s an old IP. But I doubt Microsoft will want to make a new IP that is uncharted like. They haven’t since the PS3.

@nomither6 that’s not how IPs work mate. Sony doesn’t have to do anything. If one’s competitor wants to share their IPs on a platform then cool. Besides Sony cannot afford to prop up a service like subsidized gamepass. So they must keep an upper hand where they can.

@Neither_scene i disagree. Consoles are vanity toys for the gaming hobby. With that mindset all brands for each respective hobby should merge losing their uniqueness. No one is entitled to all IPs for every corporation. Microsoft should give DEIsney more money to keep it Xbox only.

I support this developer and wish them success with this title.

This game will fail.

@nomither6 cannot have attractive characters! Or a character creator like the Chinese game Mecha Break which is still in beta. Western developers are too busy pushing the “modern audience narrative.”

@Blofse Microsoft like all software companies has a high cash flow. Something only Sony and Nintendo can dream of ever having. Microsoft can afford subsidized gamepass. I don’t understand why people complain about price increases for subscription services. Then demand more content! As someone whom buys games and movies physically I think it’s very funny. As at the end of the day subscription services are good deals. And lastly people forgot that gaming is a hobby. Hobbies have a cost.

I’m probably in the minority but I hope the game isn’t about ciri. Good eye candy but that’s about it for me. I’d rather play as a guy for these types of games. So I hope we can get a cool mate again. Perhaps a younger lad on his ascend.

Or maybe they will do like cyberpunk and allow some type of creation. Since it’s a tough act to follow after Geralt.

@DennisReynolds the PS4 was underpowered because Sony knew people didn’t want to pay the price for an expensive system. Considering inflation the PS3 was a stout system. 600$ brand new was a lot of money over a decade ago. And the PS3 was designed as an impressive system for the time. Also Sony learned its lesson from the cell engine gamble which didn’t take off as expected. Hence the PS4 going the cheaper route in terms of SOC and chassis. I doubt we will ever receive a well built beast of a PlayStation again.

@AdamNovice to understand why college football is such a big deal in the USA. One has to visit or study abroad at a big American university. Saying the American college football atmosphere is very lively is an understatement honestly. American universities are more lively in general compared to how the rest of the world does it. Students really do take pride in their schools mascots and colors. Even big prestigious schools have this closeness about them. Hope that helps give some more context.

@GreatAuk understood. I did make a lot of assumptions there. And I projected based on my experiences. I’m not dismissing the entire west. My home country (USA) is very unhealthy. Both men and women statistically are larger than their worldly counterparts. People I know routinely will say someone is too small whom is fine in reality. So that’s my perspective. My apologies.

I’m glad that PS fans will have something exclusive to play this year. This game just isn’t for me. Just like little big planets weren’t for me. Despite being good games. From what they have shown it appears it will be better than the PS5 demo game.

@WhiteRabbit going public often changes a company for the worse. I defended the Microsoft price increases for subsidized gamepass because entities like you and are are beholden to inflation. Data centers aren’t free and upgrades cost money. Plus the deals that Microsoft makes behind the scenes for GP offerings will increase as well. As the IP owners will have increased costs and their own employees wanting more compensation. These employees are like you and I whom have life costs. So it’s all a cycle. I have no love for giant corporations. Just pointing out that there is no free lunch and modern gamers whom participate in this hobby seem to forget that.

@GeeEssEff I didn’t say it was selfish for a small company to go public. Just saying that going public often changes companies for the worse for any industry. And if you read my comments objectively on PX defending the price increase for subsidized gamepass, they are doing so because of the operating costs plus inflation. I have no love for corporations mate. People need to remember that gaming is a hobby.

The thumbnail got my attention!