I'm on the same page as most with this, it sounds like. Hugely disappointed but I can totally understand the reasoning. I was waiting on this news to know what to do with my VR1 and hadn't bought Moss 2 yet just in case news of a port came. Guess I'll hang onto my 1 until we know the full launch line up. If Moss 2 isn't there I'll buy it, play it, then sell my VR1.
I'll be 100% ok with all this if they can just port over Astrobot Rescue Mission, Moss 1 and 2, Rush of Blood, and maybe a few others. I'm positive Astro will get ported, maybe even be a launch title, and fairly confident the Moss games will be brought over too at some point but I wish they would just TELL US whats going on and what to expect!
@MattSilverado I hear ya on the wire initially being a bummer but to be honest its a massive plus in the end. The one other benefit of the wire you didn't mention is the most important one and the very thing that can potentially make it the best VR headset yet: processing power. Because of the wire it can fully utilize the power of the PS5 instead of needing to cram its own horsepower into the headset itself.
This is actually kind of big news. It really shows that Sony is doing all in thier power behind the scenes to make it as easy as possible for VR to go mainstream. To get as many devs (and thus games) as possible on the bandwagon. I really feel like PSVR2 will be a turning point for VR.
So glad I got mine already. Haha. People will complain but still get one anyway. Even though a PS5 is a luxury item, people have a way to get what they want regardless of budget. If their mind is determined to get something, it will happen somehow whether its considered affordable or not.
@Shepherd_Tallon Thats crazy you haven't played it! Haha. But its also exciting knowing you still get to do that for the first time. Heck, maybe if you keep waiting it will be at launch on VR2. I dont wanna be overly dramatic, but to me Rescue Mission was the Mario 64 of VR. The game that made me realize "Oooooh so THIS is what VR can be". Made me realize that VR doesn't just have to be gimmicky tech demos but actual full experiences.
YAASSSS. Even though Moss was one of my favorite PSVR games (and one of the best in general), I specifically avoided Moss 2 hoping I could play it somehow on the next gen set.
My wishes came true! Now I just pray VR2 is either backward compatible or they re-release Moss 1 on it.
I'm not too sure what the hype is all about for this one. I mean, it certainly looks impressive visually and whatnot but it just looks to me like another samey open world action RPG (which I'm frankly very burned out on). Is there something that sets this apart that I'm missing?
@freddquadros Exactly. Even if this battle system is well made, it has to be integrated well too. For example, FF7Rs balance between old and new was cool, but that games story and exploration was so broken you never got to actually use it. I feel like there were like, a dozen battles in that entire game. Haha. To me, to make an FF tick, it has to have these things in order of importance: 1) Deep characters that you love and that have a proper arc. 2) A compelling, comprehensive story 3) Satisfying exploration and party management (not linear) 4) A fun battle system
I 100% get where he is coming from. At the end of the day you have to make a product that will sell in the current climate but as a fan thats been with the series since FF2(4) on the SNES, it still makes me a bit sad to see this shift away from turn-based already completed in the industry. The RPGs of the Golden Era are long gone and won't be coming back. But you know, at the end of the day I play FF for STORY and CHARACTERS and that is precisely where the series has really fallen in my opinion since 10. That's what they should be focusing thier efforts on regardless of battle system. I still think 9 was the pinnacle of the series. Great story, great characters that had proper arcs, satisfying ending, etc. Anyway, if FF16 can deliver on a good story with good characters and satisfying exploration, I'll be happy. I've played my share of action RPGs and this style of combat can be really fun too so I'm willing to give it a solid chance.
As a side note, how freaking cool would it be if SE had two lines of FF games being developed at all times? Kind of like how Zelda and Mario both have 2D and 3D entries, both having different rules and expectations. One line could be new 3D FFs with all the newest gaming trends while the other line could be old school SNES or PS1 style turn based stories that were cheaper to develop?
Lunar Legacy of Kain 1 & 2 Legend of Dragoon Megaman Legends 1 & 2 Metal Gear Solid 1 & 2 All Final Fantasys Parrapa the Rappa
...to name just a few off the top of my head. I mean...PS1 and 2 are a near bottomless well of classics to pull from. For how much that tier costs, I'm still shocked they didn't do the "Netflix for games" setup everyone thought Nintendo would do with NSO. Am I crazy or is this a MASSIVE missed opportunity to do something revolutionary with legacy catalogs?
@Grimwood Had the exact same thought. I can appreciate the fact that Sony is being true to thier word and not leaving behind the PS4 players while stock is short but I'm still a little disappointed everytime I see that PS4 logo on the end of a trailer. I'm always like "oh, so this is last gen, then". Even Forbidden West, which looked and played amazing, I think could have been more if not held back to straddle both consoles. Ratchet and Clank and Returnal were both PS5 only but other than that...is there anything really big? Waiting for FF16 for this reason...
@themightyant Dang, sucks you had to pay so much for the import! I picked up an OG black label PS1 Japanese edition on one of my Japan trips a few years ago for 300 yen (roughly $3). Haha
Oh please...OH PLEEEASE be true!!! PLEASE!!! This is one of those lost gems Sony has sweped under the rug and ignored for decades. I'd never dare to dream for a remake or remaster...but am praying it comes to the PS Store even as just a ROM dump.
Hoping for a good price point obviously but I'd almost pay anything at this point. I'm so hyped! This is one of the main reasons I got a PS5.
My last hope is that it will be backward compatible and that the big VR1 games like Astrobot and Moss will have VR2 upgraded versions. No Mans Sky has already confirmed to be doing that so I don't think its too far fetched.
I just can't wait for a refreshed VR experience. VR1 was the last "magical" moment this aging gamer experienced but the tech is ancient now and I need this updated, high-res, feature-loaded headset in my life! Maybe it will even launch with another Astro Playroom which was a ball on VR1.
My wallet is ready, Sony. Throw it at me!
Yeah, not for me either. As cool as these game worlds look, I can't stand games that are hard just to be hard. I'll never touch a souls game. Any game that proclaims that its "souls-like" is an immediate pass for me.
I just need this thing to be backwards compatible. Pleeeease.
If it is...100% DAY 1. PSVR had its flaws, a few big ones in fact, but it was a revelation for what gaming can be. Hands down that Astro Bot, Moss, and No Mans Sky on VR are some of the most magical experiences a gamer can have right now.
I think its safe to assume that PSVR2 will resolve most, if not all of 1's flaws and if thats true its gonna be MIND BLOWING. Cannot wait.
Even though I'm fluent in Japanese, I still usually prefer the English tracks when I play RPGs. I mainly only play in Japanese to avoid strong language like frequent F-bombs (which I'm praying aren't featured here). Japanese doesn't technically have curse words the way we do.
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Re: Resident Evil Village's Visuals Still Stunning with PSVR2
Still waiting for a date and place to throw my pre-order money.
Re: PSVR2 Isn't Backwards Compatible with PSVR Games, Sony Confirms
I'm on the same page as most with this, it sounds like. Hugely disappointed but I can totally understand the reasoning.
I was waiting on this news to know what to do with my VR1 and hadn't bought Moss 2 yet just in case news of a port came. Guess I'll hang onto my 1 until we know the full launch line up. If Moss 2 isn't there I'll buy it, play it, then sell my VR1.
I'll be 100% ok with all this if they can just port over Astrobot Rescue Mission, Moss 1 and 2, Rush of Blood, and maybe a few others. I'm positive Astro will get ported, maybe even be a launch title, and fairly confident the Moss games will be brought over too at some point but I wish they would just TELL US whats going on and what to expect!
I need to go meditate.
Re: PSVR2 Hands-On Previews Praise Hardware and Games in Glowing Write-Ups
@Jbuggydroid I've literally never played NMS in 2D. Only VR. Its honestly one of the most magical gaming experiences I've ever had.
Re: PSVR2 Hands-On Previews Praise Hardware and Games in Glowing Write-Ups
Ready to pay up to 1000 bucks. Just give it to me now.
Re: PS5's Rise of the Ronin Is an Open World Action RPG, Team Ninja Confirms
I already have this game. Its called Ghost of Tsushima.
Re: Assassin's Creed Finally Goes to Japan as Ubisoft Takes on Ghost of Tsushima
Nearly done with my 2nd playthrough of Tsushima, this time on PS5 with the DLC. One of my top games of all time. No way Assassins Crap will touch it.
Re: It's Happening! PSVR2 Games Can Now Be Wishlisted on PS Store
@MattSilverado I hear ya on the wire initially being a bummer but to be honest its a massive plus in the end. The one other benefit of the wire you didn't mention is the most important one and the very thing that can potentially make it the best VR headset yet: processing power. Because of the wire it can fully utilize the power of the PS5 instead of needing to cram its own horsepower into the headset itself.
Re: It's Happening! PSVR2 Games Can Now Be Wishlisted on PS Store
Adding them all! I need this device NOW!
Re: Developers Should Have an Easier Time Porting Their Games to PSVR2
This is actually kind of big news. It really shows that Sony is doing all in thier power behind the scenes to make it as easy as possible for VR to go mainstream. To get as many devs (and thus games) as possible on the bandwagon. I really feel like PSVR2 will be a turning point for VR.
Re: Massive F2P Action RPG Phantasy Star Online 2: New Genesis Is Out Now on PS5, PS4
Maybe ill look into it though I don't have the time for an MMO.
Re: Why the PS5's Price Hasn't Changed in USA
So glad I got mine already. Haha. People will complain but still get one anyway. Even though a PS5 is a luxury item, people have a way to get what they want regardless of budget. If their mind is determined to get something, it will happen somehow whether its considered affordable or not.
Re: Deliver Us Mars Tugs on the Heart Strings in New Story Trailer
Its weird that we're at the point where I can watch a trailer like this and recognize the actors that did the mocap. Haha. Technology is crazy.
Re: PSVR2 Playable for the First Time at TGS 2022
I'm so hyped to get this day 1!!!
Re: Poll: How Much Would You Pay for the DualSense Edge PS5 Pro Controller?
I'd only pay $15 more than the normal one...haha. Never really understood the need for a pro controller, personally.
Re: Cute Platforming Sequel Moss: Book 2 Sniffing Around PSVR2
@dschons Dude, 100% me too. I remember chuckling out loud at certain points because I just couldn't believe what I was experiencing. Lol
Re: Cute Platforming Sequel Moss: Book 2 Sniffing Around PSVR2
@Shepherd_Tallon Thats crazy you haven't played it! Haha. But its also exciting knowing you still get to do that for the first time. Heck, maybe if you keep waiting it will be at launch on VR2.
I dont wanna be overly dramatic, but to me Rescue Mission was the Mario 64 of VR. The game that made me realize "Oooooh so THIS is what VR can be". Made me realize that VR doesn't just have to be gimmicky tech demos but actual full experiences.
Re: Sony Confirms PSVR2's Release Date for Early 2023
I've got the money. Just tell me where to throw it!!! HYYYPE!
Re: Cute Platforming Sequel Moss: Book 2 Sniffing Around PSVR2
@Shepherd_Tallon Dude...Rescue Mission remastered for VR2 is a MUST! Best VR game ever made imo.
Re: Cute Platforming Sequel Moss: Book 2 Sniffing Around PSVR2
YAASSSS. Even though Moss was one of my favorite PSVR games (and one of the best in general), I specifically avoided Moss 2 hoping I could play it somehow on the next gen set.
My wishes came true! Now I just pray VR2 is either backward compatible or they re-release Moss 1 on it.
Re: Yes, Black Myth: Wukong Continues to Look Utterly Sensational
I'm not too sure what the hype is all about for this one. I mean, it certainly looks impressive visually and whatnot but it just looks to me like another samey open world action RPG (which I'm frankly very burned out on). Is there something that sets this apart that I'm missing?
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Producer Knows That Its Combat System Won't Satisfy Everyone
@freddquadros Exactly. Even if this battle system is well made, it has to be integrated well too. For example, FF7Rs balance between old and new was cool, but that games story and exploration was so broken you never got to actually use it. I feel like there were like, a dozen battles in that entire game. Haha. To me, to make an FF tick, it has to have these things in order of importance:
1) Deep characters that you love and that have a proper arc.
2) A compelling, comprehensive story
3) Satisfying exploration and party management (not linear)
4) A fun battle system
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Producer Knows That Its Combat System Won't Satisfy Everyone
I 100% get where he is coming from. At the end of the day you have to make a product that will sell in the current climate but as a fan thats been with the series since FF2(4) on the SNES, it still makes me a bit sad to see this shift away from turn-based already completed in the industry. The RPGs of the Golden Era are long gone and won't be coming back.
But you know, at the end of the day I play FF for STORY and CHARACTERS and that is precisely where the series has really fallen in my opinion since 10. That's what they should be focusing thier efforts on regardless of battle system. I still think 9 was the pinnacle of the series. Great story, great characters that had proper arcs, satisfying ending, etc.
Anyway, if FF16 can deliver on a good story with good characters and satisfying exploration, I'll be happy. I've played my share of action RPGs and this style of combat can be really fun too so I'm willing to give it a solid chance.
As a side note, how freaking cool would it be if SE had two lines of FF games being developed at all times? Kind of like how Zelda and Mario both have 2D and 3D entries, both having different rules and expectations. One line could be new 3D FFs with all the newest gaming trends while the other line could be old school SNES or PS1 style turn based stories that were cheaper to develop?
Re: Pretty PS5, PS4 Platformer Kena: Bridge of Spirits Getting Massive Update
Great news! I started it on PS5 but felt bad that I didn't get far and kinda forgot about it. This is good reason to jump back in and start over!
Re: Poll: Is PS Plus Premium Good Enough?
Lunar
Legacy of Kain 1 & 2
Legend of Dragoon
Megaman Legends 1 & 2
Metal Gear Solid 1 & 2
All Final Fantasys
Parrapa the Rappa
...to name just a few off the top of my head. I mean...PS1 and 2 are a near bottomless well of classics to pull from. For how much that tier costs, I'm still shocked they didn't do the "Netflix for games" setup everyone thought Nintendo would do with NSO. Am I crazy or is this a MASSIVE missed opportunity to do something revolutionary with legacy catalogs?
Re: Team Asobi's Next Game Its Biggest Yet, Should Feel Japanese
Cannot wait! Team Asobi is world-class. Praying for Astro Bot Rescue Mission 2 for the VR2!
Re: Explore Genshin Impact's Massive 3.0 Sumeru Update on 24th August
@Nightcrawler71 Whoa...I didn't know it won't let you restart. Thats a total deal breaker for me.
Also...nice picture! Haha. Love that show.
Re: Explore Genshin Impact's Massive 3.0 Sumeru Update on 24th August
I really need to get back into this game. Its basically Breath if the Wild but with a story.
Re: Capcom Reveals Two TGS Events, One for Street Fighter 6
Megaman Legends on Switch please. I'm begging you Capcom...PLEASE.
Re: The First Descendant Looks Like a Graphical Powerhouse, Coming to PS5, PS4
@Grimwood Had the exact same thought. I can appreciate the fact that Sony is being true to thier word and not leaving behind the PS4 players while stock is short but I'm still a little disappointed everytime I see that PS4 logo on the end of a trailer. I'm always like "oh, so this is last gen, then". Even Forbidden West, which looked and played amazing, I think could have been more if not held back to straddle both consoles.
Ratchet and Clank and Returnal were both PS5 only but other than that...is there anything really big? Waiting for FF16 for this reason...
Re: Fans Think PS1 RPG The Legend of Dragoon Could Be Making a Comeback, Maybe on PS Plus
@themightyant Aaahhh that makes more sense. Thats epic!
Re: Fans Think PS1 RPG The Legend of Dragoon Could Be Making a Comeback, Maybe on PS Plus
@themightyant Dang, sucks you had to pay so much for the import! I picked up an OG black label PS1 Japanese edition on one of my Japan trips a few years ago for 300 yen (roughly $3). Haha
Re: Fans Think PS1 RPG The Legend of Dragoon Could Be Making a Comeback, Maybe on PS Plus
Oh please...OH PLEEEASE be true!!! PLEASE!!! This is one of those lost gems Sony has sweped under the rug and ignored for decades. I'd never dare to dream for a remake or remaster...but am praying it comes to the PS Store even as just a ROM dump.
Re: What if DOOM and Minecraft Had a Baby? Meet Your Maker for PS5, PS4 Is the Answer
Looks cool!
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Re: Sony Discontinuing PS5 Accolades As No One Used Them
Didn't even know this existed. Lol
Re: Sony to Take Action as PS5, PS4 Owners Play Less Than Anticipated
Just give me VR2 and FF16 and I promise I won't leave my couch for weeks, bro.
Re: It's Happening! PSVR2 References Unearthed in PS5 Firmware Update
ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN! LAST CALL! THIS TRAIN IS LEAVING THE STATION!
Re: PS5, PS4 Finally Go Portable with Officially Licensed PlayStation Backbone One
PS5 at home. Switch on the go. XBox nowhere to be seen. Life is good.
Re: Capcom's Winning Streak Continues as It Expects Tenth Consecutive Year of Income Growth
NOW PORT MEGAMAN LEGENDS TO THE SWITCH!
Re: Reaction: Meta Quest 2's Price Hike Will Have PSVR2 Relieved or Rubbing Its Hands
Hoping for a good price point obviously but I'd almost pay anything at this point. I'm so hyped! This is one of the main reasons I got a PS5.
My last hope is that it will be backward compatible and that the big VR1 games like Astrobot and Moss will have VR2 upgraded versions. No Mans Sky has already confirmed to be doing that so I don't think its too far fetched.
I just can't wait for a refreshed VR experience. VR1 was the last "magical" moment this aging gamer experienced but the tech is ancient now and I need this updated, high-res, feature-loaded headset in my life! Maybe it will even launch with another Astro Playroom which was a ball on VR1.
My wallet is ready, Sony. Throw it at me!
Re: Sony Unveils PSVR2 User Experience, Including See-Through View, Customisable Play Area
@Futureshark My thoughts exactly. It NEEDS to be backwards compatible.
Re: Sony Unveils PSVR2 User Experience, Including See-Through View, Customisable Play Area
GIVE IT TO ME NOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!
Re: The Lord of the Rings: Gollum Delays the Precious on PS5, PS4 a 'Few Months'
I still think this concept is awesome and I'm glad if they wanna take more time on it.
Re: The Messenger Dev's Retro RPG Sea of Stars Pushed Back to 2023
Noooooooo! Of course I fully support them in this but still sucks.
Re: First Stranger of Paradise DLC Brings More Chaos to PS5, PS4 on 20th July
Why wasn't the Hero of Light the original main character from the beginning? Man...this stupid game is so frustrating. Lol
Re: Soapbox: I Tried So Hard to Like Elden Ring, But I Just Couldn’t Do It
Yeah, not for me either. As cool as these game worlds look, I can't stand games that are hard just to be hard. I'll never touch a souls game. Any game that proclaims that its "souls-like" is an immediate pass for me.
Re: First Photo of PSVR2 in the Flesh Emerges
I just need this thing to be backwards compatible. Pleeeease.
If it is...100% DAY 1. PSVR had its flaws, a few big ones in fact, but it was a revelation for what gaming can be. Hands down that Astro Bot, Moss, and No Mans Sky on VR are some of the most magical experiences a gamer can have right now.
I think its safe to assume that PSVR2 will resolve most, if not all of 1's flaws and if thats true its gonna be MIND BLOWING. Cannot wait.
Re: Final Fantasy 16's English Cast Will Speak with British English Accents, Not American
@nicc83 Oh, absolutely. From my experience I would say 90% of the F-bombs are not justified from the Japanese track at all.
Re: Final Fantasy 16's English Cast Will Speak with British English Accents, Not American
Even though I'm fluent in Japanese, I still usually prefer the English tracks when I play RPGs. I mainly only play in Japanese to avoid strong language like frequent F-bombs (which I'm praying aren't featured here). Japanese doesn't technically have curse words the way we do.
Anyway, VERY excited for this game.
Re: Next Ys Game Teased with Artwork, May Have Soulslike Elements
I kinda hate how "souls-like" is a thing now. At least it tells me right away what not to buy. Lol
Re: Sony's Latest State of Play Has Been Watched More Times Than Any of Its E3 Conferences
Crazy what happens when you actually have good content in a presentation.