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If Sony is going to charge $700 for an "enthusiast" console (with less features than the original) then I can imagine they would charge $1500 for a PS6 that includes a handheld that can play the entire library. Probably closer to $2000 honestly.

Just wanted to say it's been 15 months since I downgraded from Extra to Essential, and NOT ONCE has a game come or gone that even made me consider going back up to Extra.

I know it's a hot take, but I thought Shadow of the Erdtree was trash, and I loved Elden Ring so much that I platinumed both the PS5 & PS4 versions within 3 months of release. I freaking loved me some Elden Ring. But the DLC I found boring, felt like I was forcing myself to play it, and gave up after a dozen hours or so.

I want more RPG's that aren't Soulslike or trying to ape Persona. More stuff like Rayman Legends and Prince of Persia TLC. Perhaps a high-quality GTA alternative (not Saints Row). Native PS5 versions of the first 2 Dragon Age games, TES IV Oblivion and both Fallout games from the PS3 era. That's what I want.

I'm genuinely surprised that the headline of this wasn't "Australia's Planned Social Media Ban Even Better On PS5 PRO!" considering this site's output lately.

I've said it many times, and I'll say it again, I'll never pay $700 for a "premium" console that requires me to buy additional (and out of stock) peripherals just to have all the features that my old, base-level console had. It's left such a bad taste in my mouth that I haven't touched my PS5 in over 2 months and just been playing PC.

If it was $700 with a drive and a stand, there would be one in my living room right now.

I'm dead serious about to stop coming to this site because they're blowing the PS5 Pro so hard

"However, the headline graphical upgrades aren’t truly groundbreaking and if you’re not a PlayStation fanatic or graphics obsessive then YOU CAN LIKELY SKIP THE PRO. Plus, the exclusion of a disc drive and stand, despite its position as an enthusiast console, is disappointing..."

He sounds like somebody I know...oh yeah, me. And that came from the review with technically the highest score.

It's so weird to me that there are people WHO HAVE NOT PLAYED THE GAME YET who are still crapping on it and saying they hope it fails...like are you serious? That's pathetic.

Is it really necessary to have a separate article for EACH game that will be "PS5 Pro Enhanced"?! And not trying to be overly critical, your "article" is 3 short paragraphs just repeating information already stated elsewhere.

Every time I see "PS5 Pro Enhanced" or whatever, I remember the box of my "old & inferior" PS5 said 8K on it...

@Ceridane yeah I remember grinding for literal months to get that last trophy for platinum, that would be my only criticism about Legends, otherwise fantastic game.

The "Pro" console is supposed to be premium, right? Top of the line? So it should include everything INCLUDED WITH THE BASE MODEL AT LEAST. So yeah, PS5 Pro without a disc drive is a f'n downgrade from my base PS5, and I don't care that the Pro will give me 2 extra TFlops and will tell me I'm pretty. I'm not buying a downgrade (in my eyes) for a premium price. Ever.

Edit: I own zero PS4 or PS5 games on disc. It's not about that for me. It's about Sony thinking we're stupid.

@Bagwag82 I agree with everything you said

@Deoxyr1bose okay my bad, not Persona clones exactly I suppose, just remakes and remasters and spinoffs of every Persona game ever, at least what it seems like from my point of view.

Just what we need, a Soulslike RPG! Now, if we could just have another Persona clone, cause there aren't enough of those either...

I couldn't care less, had my attention not been brought to it I would likely not have noticed that it had even changed.

I don't give a good goddam if it rubs my back and makes me warm milk before bed...no disc drive, no stand, no sale.

So it's a cash grab because their stupid hero-shooter live service game failed. Not because they had great ideas for Hogwarts Legacy, but because they needed to make back their money. Yeah, I'll pass.

PS5 is still unchallenged in the regions Xbox is staying put. But in all seriousness, I've been predicting this exact thing for some time now. There is not going to be a successor to the Series consoles.

Less competition is not a good thing. Somebody (Sega come on, make the comeback everyone wants) needs to step into the ring with Sony and Nintendo.

It already feels like there are a dozen versions of Persona floating around out there, honestly I'm not really excited for basically another version of a Persona game with a different skin.

It's not a bad selection, but I can't imagine anyone who doesn't already have Extra or Premium seeing anything that would make them subscribe. I quit Extra 13 months ago and in that time nothing has come or gone that made me consider going back up.

I don't know, forcing me to find a disc drive (and a stand) for my new "upgraded" console, while my "old and inferior" console came with both kinda feels like being nickeled and dimed, and I don't like it. The Pro is supposed to be a premium console, right? Well a premium console should come fully loaded, not barebones and good luck hunting down the accessories.

@Perturbator I feel the same way. Oblivion, 2 Fallouts, Dragon Age Origins, GTA IV off the top of my head, all just wasting away on the PS3, none are playable on PS4/5 other than cloud streaming, which is yeah no thanks. For some reason though it seems like they want to remake things from the middle of the PS4 gen, like come on guys 2017 wasn't even that long ago...

I wouldn't touch this with a 10ft pole, and I platinumed the PS4 version years ago. But after playing some of the Dark Pictures games (which were trash) there is no way I'm giving anyone anymore money for these games, especially a graphical upgrade / FPS downgrade, and not for a 6/10 game. Did this even need a remake/remaster or whatever it is technically? Who is greenlighting this crap?

I just want a new Rayman platformer, I can't be the only one.

@Blaze215 we've done this dance before, I'm still waiting for the "8K" that my PS5 box advertised lol

Perhaps the day will never come, but I'm waiting for a Pro with a disc drive. I refuse to play the scalping game trying to hunt one down now, and I'm not buying a PS console without one. Your move, Sony.

It's insanely frustrating that this turd is getting a sequel, considering the game itself is a reboot of the original turd they crapped out in 2014...we don't need a third one.

You don't need a private investigator to figure this one out, it obviously has to do with the fact that PlayStation outsells Xbox 3:1 and they want to maximize potential revenue. Not to mention the lack of GP means that people are actually buying games on the PS side as well.

I hope every scalper gets bunions, like really bad ones that you need surgery to correct. I'm going to speak it into existence. Enjoy your shoes never fitting right scalpers!

@get2sammyb You're got a brilliant idea there friend. Some combination of time played, trophies as well as a certain amount of PREVIOUS PURCHASES (games, DLC, etc) would pretty much solve the problem.

Yeah, not going to "settle down" over you trying to brute force subliminal marketing content on my console to shove down my throat in the comfort of my own home.

I'm glad it's not selling out, simply for the fact that scalpers will have to go get a real job instead of being able to victimize people with it. So in that sense, I see it as a good thing.

@Fiendish-Beaver You make an excellent point, I feel the same way.

It's almost as if Sony is saying "we've got too many people supporting us, how can we piss off our player base?" and have been making decisions the past month with that mindset. I haven't touched my PS5 in over 2 weeks, and I'm a guy who usually plays like 30-40 hours a week no BS. They're really alienating me right now though.

Yeah, sorry but it's definitely a joke at this point, just ask Concord...oh wait, too soon?

Can someone explain the benefit of pre-ordering? And I mean literally, like how does paying for a game months before it releases help you or better your life in any way? I'm genuinely curious.

I will never buy a console that doesn't include a disc drive by default.

Capitalism is terrorism, just in a different form.

Well, when you crap out "gems" like Skull & Bones, you can't blame people for running the next time you say your stomach hurts...

Banishers was good (I rented it from GameFly) but I ended up returning it before I finished it...it's decent, but after a while it just felt like I was doing the same thing over again, and the story wasn't engaging enough and the gameplay loop not fun enough to get me to carry on...it's a quality game, but definitely wait for sale type.

N64 is still the worst controller design I've ever seen for what it's worth

How the hell did they think Concord was the future of PlayStation?!?!? There were literally superior, extremely similar games available for FREE. Did nobody in the board room bother to figure out that 1+1=2? It's disgusting they spent that much chasing a trend basically. Man, I used to really love gaming but lately I don't know anymore...

So we will have games in 2025 still releasing on PS4. Tell me again how badly we need a mid-gen refresh Sony?

Anyone paying attention isn't surprised by this, Xbox never really recovered from the disaster that was the reveal of the XBone. Unfortunately for them, that was the gen where people established digital libraries in their respective ecosystems, making it VERY unlikely (and financially punitive) to "switch sides."

This is the last generation of Xbox consoles.

As critical as I have been of the Pro, I have to admit that bundle looks tempting DEPENDING ON THE PRICE. If it's $1100-1200 then they can piss off

Because it's less of a financial risk than a new IP is the short answer.

Makes it even more appalling that it's taken so long to get a follow up. I mean, we know it was because they were chasing the live-service gravy train, but still, it's frustrating as all hell.

@DennisReynolds I REALLY hope you're right