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It's funny, after playing HZD in 2017 (and again after DLC) I felt like it was one of the best games of the PS4 gen. Forbidden West was quality, but kind of redundant, and unlike it's predecessor I have no urge to play it a 2nd time or check out the DLC. I guess I'm not the only player the franchise hasn't aged particularly well for. I could make a list of 10 potential future games I'd love to be able to play right now, and a new Horizon game wouldn't be on it.

People do realize that it's not just the price that has people feeling some type of way about this, right? The fact that half of new games are still being released on PS4 sends a pretty strong message, to me, that an upgrade is NOT NECESSARY. Which essentially renders the PS5 Pro as what, an idiot test? I don't care how inexpensive the machine would be, it's mere existence is what I find insulting.

Yeah, I'm passing on the 32X Pro, thanks.

At this point, the PS5 Pro could welcome me home, make me a drink and rub my feet and I still wouldn't be interested honestly.

This is why we have to wait decades for entries in single-player franchises. This is why everyone is trying to make a live-service, money-printing game.

I can't tell you all how to waste your money, but...

@Fiendish-Beaver what was the mid-gen refresh on the 360? I know the had the original fat, the S and the E, but they were the same hardware in each, nothing was upgraded as far I can recall.

Am I the only one getting old-school Sega flashbacks here? They just announced the PS5 Pro, and now suddenly there's rumors of the PS6? So that makes the Pro, what, a 32X basically? Why buy that when I can just wait for the Saturn!

Yes, I'm old.

I would have rather they used the time and resources to make a good Watch Dogs game honestly. I really enjoyed 2 but I was super disappointed by Legion.

You guys going on about how it's a great value because every game will be 60fps, you DO realize that there is no guarantee of 60fps on every game, right? Those are your EXPECTATIONS, not the reality. I mean the OG PS5 box says "8K" on it and we all know how laughable that is.

For me, it's not about the price point, it's about feeling gouged by a company that I have supported for decades. Those stands cost peanuts to produce and removing them from the package is indefensible. Not including the disc drive is another decision motivated by the desire to milk as much $$$ out of us as they can. For that, Sony can go to hell.

$550-600 with a disc drive and a stand would have probably gotten me after a year or so, even before I knew the price and what was missing I wasn't particularly excited for a PS5 Pro though so maybe, maybe not.

Xbox has released their last console, outside of Series X/S revisions we aren't going to see a "next-gen Xbox" or anything like that. If the PS5 Pro included a disc drive and a stand for $700, I wouldn't be angry at all. But removing those things, selling them for extra, and THEN selling the Pro for $700 is a dick move, and I hope it sells worse than that Rob & Fab CD those guys made after they got kicked out of Milli Vanilli or whatever.

Anyone curious about Road 96, it is excellent and well worth your time!

@nedbvai you probably should talk to a mental health professional about your need to feel superior over others, it's really not healthy. It's insane to me that I read a grown up say "I don't want everybody to have this" as if it affects you one bit whether 1 or 1 billion other people have the console. Whoever hurt you, I'm sorry mate, I really am.

I already thought it was unnecessary before I saw the price point, but now knowing the price AND that it ships without a disc drive, I've gone from general apathy to actually feeling some type of way towards Sony and thinking maybe it's time to cultivate a new hobby or two.

$700, and then I have to pony up an extra $100 for a disc drive. Sony can go to hell.

I think it's the wrong move honestly. How is Sony going to argue that the full potential of the PS5 has been realized, when they're still releasing a substantial amount of new games for PS4? I'm a diehard PlayStation fan, but I'm not going near a PS5 Pro, there's no point in my eyes.

Truthfully it was DOA the moment they decided to charge for it, when there were very similar, and superior, alternatives available for free.

First, whoever greenlit the name "Fairgame$" should be fired. Secondly, after the Concord disaster, nobody is going near this game. Not anyone paying attention at least.

The first is a solid foundation, with a quality reputation/faction system and some re-working of spell mechanics a bit, I think it could be really cool.

@riceNpea omg love the TPS-L2 reference!

I believe exactly zero words out of the mouth of Microsoft.

I would be up for anything that has PvE content and isn't a hero shooter honestly.

I'm actually happy for once. Most months, to me anyway, it seems we get some indie title I couldn't care less about or some garden variety online shooter. For once, there are not one, but two, games that could see myself spending a lot of time with (Quidditch and MLB) I know a lot of you are pissed but I'm just happy to have what I consider a good month for once.

I'll never say I'm happy to see a game fail, because a team of dedicated people worked hard on it and they don't deserve that. But I will be happy if this game's failure results in less emphasis on live-service titles like this one.

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

@Bamila yeah, sports titles are a niche genre that consistently top best-seller lists, is that where you were going with that?

Hogwarts Legacy is a steal at that price. At first I thought it was a 7/10 but I came back about a year later and thought it was brilliant, ended up getting the plat it was that much fun!

And I also don't check notifications until weeks later lol

@WiiWareWave uh I'm in my mid-40's, got my first NES in 1987. It's odd to me that you immediately assumed I was a Zoomer.

I'm beyond tired of the GaaS nonsense, so I'm glad that it's failing while concurrently a single player game is ruling the world. Get the hint, Sony. Sure, a tiny handful of those games reach the level of Fortnite, PUBG, Apex, but they're the outliers, the ones in a million. And I've never even played those games either. GaaS BS is also why the new Dragon Age has taken a decade.

I hope it sells barely better than an Xbox, because it's not even close to being necessary.

What was Xbox's alternative? To die quietly? Their only option to turn into Sega at this point, and it starts by releasing their games on PS5.

By the end of 2025, every first-party Xbox game will either be announced, or released already, for PS5, as well as confirmation that there will not be a follow-up to the Xbox Series consoles.

It literally feels like anything even remotely action-RPGish is a bloody soulslike and I'm beyond over it.

Comparing it, negatively, to Lords of the Fallen concerns me, since that game was a stinker, hell both versions of LOTF are stinkers. So yeah, I'll probably wait for a deep sale.

Even if you're not thrilled with the PS5 library, what exactly is the alternative? I would advise selling, not buying, an Xbox at this point, and the Switch is a completely different animal. If you are dedicated to console gaming with full third-party support, the PS5 is the only viable option in 2024 imo

My friend just offered me a choice between punching myself in the face and listening to Vanilla Ice's To the Extreme album start to finish, or seeing the Borderlands movie with them.

Turns out it's not a bad album.

The only reason Microsoft is sticking to the day 1 GP nonsense is because they literally have no other option, other than just outright killing off GP altogether. This is what it looks like when companies make decisions based on hubris, and pride, instead of rational thought and logic. Of course nobody expects GTA VI to launch on PS Plus or GP, are you kidding me? It's already proven the model doesn't work, Xbox is just going down with the ship.

People on the internet like to complain about meaningless things, news at 11.

In theory, a good idea.

In practice, most people suck, and it will be mostly trolling nonsense.

It's really hard to take the potential PS5 Pro seriously after reading this. They wouldn't go to the trouble of spending a year's (probably over) worth of time and resources to port this game to PS4 if they had sold enough on PS5, you smell what I'm cooking? Anyone who's chomping at the bit to spend money on a PS5 Pro needs a timeout.

I rented it from GameFly, and it's bad, like BAD. Let's be real, if it was that great of a game to start with...it wouldn't have required an overhaul. Hopefully it improves the experience for people who have already purchased it, but I'm not going near it again.

@Frmknst difference of opinion, to me Valhalla was WAY more bloated. I loved Elden Ring so much that after I got the platinum, I turned it right back on and platinumed the PS4 version 2 months later. When I finished AC Valhalla, I never wanted to see it, or any AC game ever again. To the point that I skipped Mirage. See the difference?

There is such a thing as too big, AC Valhalla I'm looking at you.

I mean, are they wrong? Xbox is a sinking ship, and anyone who doesn't think so, I hope you enjoy the bottom of the ocean.

What was he expecting? As far as I'm aware this is the exact same game that was released a couple generations ago, one that is still easily playable on PC and Xbox at the very least. This wasn't exactly going to set the world on fire.

I just don't see myself ever caring about VR. The financial barrier to entry is too high for it just being a niche product I'll use a couple times in the beginning and then never again. I already went through that with Guitar Hero, though those gits were cheaper admittedly.

@Dom_31 I think you and I have differing tastes, which means by rules of the internet we must be sworn enemies now...in all seriousness I'm glad that you've had a positive experience with it. FromSoft games are not my cup of tea usually, and I used Save Wizard to neuter the hell out of Elden Ring, so there's a good chance I'm simply not the target audience for it as well.

I had been forcing myself to play through Shadow and was really not enjoying it. Can't really figure out why, because Elden Ring is one of my favorite games ever. But Shadow of the Erdtree is just so off-putting to me that I quit before finishing Belurat Tower. Hopefully this patch improves the experience somehow.