@nomither6 I miss the days where single player games would ship with a multiplayer mode. (Say, bioshock 2, that was a good one!) Some of them were really good fun. As far as live services, if they’re playable in single player then it’s not all bad. Destiny had a fun campaign and you could play alone without relying on other people, which was great.
Thing is, when you have something you pay for which is dependent on others it feels like you just don’t have any control over it, that’s not consumer friendly. Live service has its place, but if it’s done in the right way.
Oh joy another live service game. The acting on the trailer was painful too. They really need to stop getting actors to pretend to have fun playing these games. So fake.
It would be interesting to see which one out of global citizen, best mobile game, best esports thing, and games for impact people care the least about. It’s a pretty close thing personally.
Very mixed. I’m loving the ship design and enemies, but the whole guardians of the galaxy retrofuture thing is way overdone and the main character comes off as a bit arrogant. Still, it’s ND so I have faith it’ll be good.
I finally got around to Phantom Liberty a few weeks ago aince playing through the base game about six months after release. It’s staggering. The effort theyve put into fixing it has gone beyond what would be expected and it’s now excellent.
All well and good but how about a price cut on the existing dualsense? I have two which have developed stick drift, one making anything using the right stick unplayable now.
It definitely needs to end with a scrawled note on the screen that says “Concord died on the way back to its home planet”. It’s been the most entertaining game of 2024 and I’ve never even played it.
Guys a scumbag and should be consigned to obscurity. If they keep the mission and change the character to someone generic (like Mike Tyson being removed from Punch Out) then this is the right thing to do. If they get rid of the missions entirely it’s a shame but understandable.
@Starkei my 11 year old stepdaughter loves LOTR and animal crossing, so she’s well hyped for this. There’s your modern audience. I reckon it looks pretty good if you’re after something to chill with.
It’s nice to be able to say that a title that’s not really for me is doing so well, and that it absolutely deserves to. My stepson was telling me he liked the look of it so I said he should ask his dad to buy it for him.
I really hope that Astro Bot has done gang busters at retail as it’s a solid title with huge mass appeal. Not really my thing, but something I do think needs more representation on PS.
This hot, steaming, take reminds me of when I used to claim anything with multiplayer was a moba to wind people up. Good times. Upset some “real gamer” types a fair bit.
Sorry Sammy but I can’t disagree more, this is promotion and nothing more. By this definition any game receiving an update is a live service.
@MrPeanutbutterz we don’t have sales or preorder numbers on Astro bot, which is why I didn’t mention it. I’m sure it’ll do well, hopefully exceptionally so.
It’ll be another failure and deservedly so. Concord was bland, but the character design on this is woeful. Smug and arrogant, with the same tired cliches wrapped around paper thin gameplay. I actually don’t want to see it cancelled because I want to watch it die. There’s a certain irony about a game who’s plot is “old rich white people bad” being released by a company who’s shareholders are (in the west, at least) old rich white people. They want you to spend money on this so they can rake it in.
@Frmknst people are still playing Bloodborne. It’s 10 years old and still popular. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s sold more than Concord in the last year.
@Bentleyma no, but Sony invested in this instead of another game like Bloodborne. That’s the issue. I own Helldivers 2 and haven’t played in months, that’ll be dead in 18 months too.
Good. This godawful trend for live service nonsense has to stop, and hopefully Sony gets the message. We’ll happily wait for quality games like GoW or TLOU and don’t need another flop like this.
We don’t get bloodborne 2 but this and Destruction Allstars get heavily pushed? Dire move. Sh!tcan the damn thing now and give out refunds.
I enjoy games that I don’t need to rely on other, real, people to enjoy. If that’s the case and the audience isn’t there, I’ve pretty much rented it because once the servers go it’s done.
MAG Brink Drawn to Death Lawbreakers Radical Heights The Culling 2 Evil Dead Evolve
That’s just off the top of my head and I’m not even scratching the surface. It’s a minefield and I’m flabbergasted that Sony are still chasing that live service cash despite the risk, and knowing full well that their best games are all single player experiences. Helldivers 2 was an outlier, but look how the perception of it has changed since release? I actually bought it and haven’t played for months due to the various issues and lack of enthusiasm from the fanbase.
Compare that to Returnal, a roguelike with a modest budget and excellent multiplayer community which doesn’t even need an online connection to enjoy. It’s not even a close thing.
@GrimWillows this is the way my man. I only have maybe 3 or 4 bigger titles installed at a time, and a load of retro and indie titles for when I fancy something a little less involved.
Returnal is incredible, but I really wanted to vote for Nuclear Throne and it’s not on there! It’s a superb game and hugely addictive. Enter the Gungeon is missing too!
@CrashBandicoat almost as though if you try to write a female character with likeability and depth without making her infallible, people will like it. The Rings of Power I won’t even watch because I love Tolkien. It’s pointless and I refuse to see it as canon.
Hope it does well. Season 4 of The Bear was a total slog, just pretension all the way.
The Boys s4 however, was boss! I tried to explain THAT scene in Tek Knights basement to my girlfriend who looked absolutely horrified! Completely agree with all the Anthony Starr love as well. He’s so good as Homelander.
@Odium @SystemAddict One problem with Fortnite is that while it’s fun to run round as your Disposable Heroes and Fight Fire with Fire, Xbox players need to make sure they have a spare Battery for their controllers over longer play sessions. Running out must really tug at the Frayed Ends of Sanity and leave them with No Escape while their games Fade to Black. PlayStation and particularly PC gamers might think they’re Holier Than Thou over this, but even with rechargeable batteries It’s Electric, so if you’re playing Fortnite like Nothing Else Matters and That Was Just Your Life, you’re hardly Unforgiven.
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Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@LogicStrikesAgain it’s from this sketch; https://youtu.be/pfjVJEhqM7Q?si=1D5mKBu7t0gtGkY_
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@LogicStrikesAgain I HATE bald boys. Every time I see one I feel like I’m back in the pants.
Re: Warren Spector's Multiplayer Stealth Game Thick As Thieves Sneaks onto PS5 in 2026
@nomither6 I miss the days where single player games would ship with a multiplayer mode. (Say, bioshock 2, that was a good one!) Some of them were really good fun. As far as live services, if they’re playable in single player then it’s not all bad. Destiny had a fun campaign and you could play alone without relying on other people, which was great.
Thing is, when you have something you pay for which is dependent on others it feels like you just don’t have any control over it, that’s not consumer friendly. Live service has its place, but if it’s done in the right way.
Re: Warren Spector's Multiplayer Stealth Game Thick As Thieves Sneaks onto PS5 in 2026
Oh joy another live service game. The acting on the trailer was painful too. They really need to stop getting actors to pretend to have fun playing these games. So fake.
Re: Sifu Dev Is Making a Crazy Online Football Game Called Rematch, for PS5 in 2025
I’ll stick with Behold The Kickmen! Which is the only good soccer game, ever.
Re: All The Game Awards 2024 Winners
It would be interesting to see which one out of global citizen, best mobile game, best esports thing, and games for impact people care the least about. It’s a pretty close thing personally.
Re: Naughty Dog's New PS5 Game Is Finally Announced, Sci-Fi Action Title Intergalactic
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare I just woke up 😂
Re: Naughty Dog's New PS5 Game Is Finally Announced, Sci-Fi Action Title Intergalactic
Very mixed. I’m loving the ship design and enemies, but the whole guardians of the galaxy retrofuture thing is way overdone and the main character comes off as a bit arrogant. Still, it’s ND so I have faith it’ll be good.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.2 Announced as CDPR Promises New Features on Fourth Anniversary
I finally got around to Phantom Liberty a few weeks ago aince playing through the base game about six months after release. It’s staggering. The effort theyve put into fixing it has gone beyond what would be expected and it’s now excellent.
Re: Your 2024 PlayStation Wrap-Up Will Be Available Starting Next Week
My Spotify wrapped contained zero surprises (ween and pallbearer, occasional King Crimson and The Smile) so maybe this might change things up!
Re: DualSense Edge, Pulse Headphones Reportedly Getting Black Variant
All well and good but how about a price cut on the existing dualsense? I have two which have developed stick drift, one making anything using the right stick unplayable now.
Re: Secret Level's Concord Episode Has a Trailer, and It Feels Really Weird
It definitely needs to end with a scrawled note on the screen that says “Concord died on the way back to its home planet”. It’s been the most entertaining game of 2024 and I’ve never even played it.
Re: Hitman Studio Will Remove All Conor McGregor Content After Court Ruling
@Rob3008 having lived in Dublin for a while I can confirm that the Irish are indeed a lovely bunch of lads.
Re: Hitman Studio Will Remove All Conor McGregor Content After Court Ruling
Guys a scumbag and should be consigned to obscurity. If they keep the mission and change the character to someone generic (like Mike Tyson being removed from Punch Out) then this is the right thing to do. If they get rid of the missions entirely it’s a shame but understandable.
Re: Leaked Secret Level Trailer Reveals Anthology Series' Star-Studded Cast
@thechetearly those fifteen mins are surely close to being up now, right?
Re: See Mega-Man, Pac-Man, and Armored Core Like Never Before in Secret Level Official Trailer
If the Mega Man episode isn’t soundtracked by Protomen then they’ve missed a trick there.
Re: Hands On: The Crew Motorfest has Never Looked Better Thanks to the PS5 Pro
Is the PS5 Pro out? Would have thought this site would mention it somewhere….
Re: Metacritic Responds to Ongoing Dragon Age: The Veilguard Review Bombing Campaign
@Northern_munkey heard it’s mandatory. It means well but it’s so heavy handed that it comes off as patronising.
Re: Metacritic Responds to Ongoing Dragon Age: The Veilguard Review Bombing Campaign
I watched the “pulling a barve” clip and decided that I don’t really need this game. Loved BG3, love TLOU2, I’m in favour of diversity in games.
I’m just not in favour of bad writing and a grind. Don’t feel the need to review bomb it, I’ll just buy something else.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Lays the Foundation for a New Modern-Day Narrative
Playing an AC game for the modern day parts is like going to an orgy for the buffet.
Re: PS Plus Essential Provides 3 PS5, PS4 Games to Download Now
At least they didn’t try to push the Death Note thing as a full priced release.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for November 2024 Announced
An anime among us depending on other players and an online connection? Donald Duck right off. Cancel it now.
Re: Starship Troopers: Extermination Hits Ground Running on PS5, Roadmap Revealed
Well they’ve sent this out to die haven’t they?
Re: Lord of the Rings Life Sim Tales of the Shire Out for PS5 in March 2025
@Starkei my 11 year old stepdaughter loves LOTR and animal crossing, so she’s well hyped for this. There’s your modern audience. I reckon it looks pretty good if you’re after something to chill with.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Sales Trending Ahead of Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart in the UK
It’s nice to be able to say that a title that’s not really for me is doing so well, and that it absolutely deserves to. My stepson was telling me he liked the look of it so I said he should ask his dad to buy it for him.
Being a stepdad is great fun sometimes.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Astro Bot Barely Registers at Retail, PS5 Numbers Plummet After Price Hike
I really hope that Astro Bot has done gang busters at retail as it’s a solid title with huge mass appeal. Not really my thing, but something I do think needs more representation on PS.
Re: Soapbox: Astro's Playroom PS5 Did Live Service and You Didn't Even Notice
This hot, steaming, take reminds me of when I used to claim anything with multiplayer was a moba to wind people up. Good times. Upset some “real gamer” types a fair bit.
Sorry Sammy but I can’t disagree more, this is promotion and nothing more. By this definition any game receiving an update is a live service.
Re: Surging Space Marine 2 Early Access Numbers Portend a Golden Future
@Killionaire why not? Maybe his English isn’t at the level he would like before commenting.
Re: Surging Space Marine 2 Early Access Numbers Portend a Golden Future
@MrPeanutbutterz we don’t have sales or preorder numbers on Astro bot, which is why I didn’t mention it. I’m sure it’ll do well, hopefully exceptionally so.
Re: Concord Will Remain in Prime Video's Secret Level Anthology Series
Presumably it’ll end with a crayon scrawled note on screen reading “Concord died on the way back to its home planet”.
Re: Surging Space Marine 2 Early Access Numbers Portend a Golden Future
Oh look! Another single player game done well which is going to sell by the bucketload without gouging players for tat. TAKE NOTE, SONY.
Re: Internal Sony Fairgame$ Chatter Is Reportedly Quite Positive
It’ll be another failure and deservedly so. Concord was bland, but the character design on this is woeful. Smug and arrogant, with the same tired cliches wrapped around paper thin gameplay.
I actually don’t want to see it cancelled because I want to watch it die. There’s a certain irony about a game who’s plot is “old rich white people bad” being released by a company who’s shareholders are (in the west, at least) old rich white people. They want you to spend money on this so they can rake it in.
Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
@Frmknst people are still playing Bloodborne. It’s 10 years old and still popular. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s sold more than Concord in the last year.
Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
@Bentleyma no, but Sony invested in this instead of another game like Bloodborne. That’s the issue.
I own Helldivers 2 and haven’t played in months, that’ll be dead in 18 months too.
Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
Good. This godawful trend for live service nonsense has to stop, and hopefully Sony gets the message. We’ll happily wait for quality games like GoW or TLOU and don’t need another flop like this.
We don’t get bloodborne 2 but this and Destruction Allstars get heavily pushed? Dire move. Sh!tcan the damn thing now and give out refunds.
Re: Talking Point: Can PS5, PC Shooter Concord Be Saved?
I enjoy games that I don’t need to rely on other, real, people to enjoy. If that’s the case and the audience isn’t there, I’ve pretty much rented it because once the servers go it’s done.
MAG
Brink
Drawn to Death
Lawbreakers
Radical Heights
The Culling 2
Evil Dead
Evolve
That’s just off the top of my head and I’m not even scratching the surface. It’s a minefield and I’m flabbergasted that Sony are still chasing that live service cash despite the risk, and knowing full well that their best games are all single player experiences.
Helldivers 2 was an outlier, but look how the perception of it has changed since release? I actually bought it and haven’t played for months due to the various issues and lack of enthusiasm from the fanbase.
Compare that to Returnal, a roguelike with a modest budget and excellent multiplayer community which doesn’t even need an online connection to enjoy. It’s not even a close thing.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Gamescom Opening Night Live 2024?
Absolutely pony chod
Re: PS5 Gets a Staggering, Officially Licensed 8TB SSD
@GrimWillows this is the way my man. I only have maybe 3 or 4 bigger titles installed at a time, and a load of retro and indie titles for when I fancy something a little less involved.
Re: Poll: Rate Your Favourite PS5 Roguelike Games
Returnal is incredible, but I really wanted to vote for Nuclear Throne and it’s not on there! It’s a superb game and hugely addictive. Enter the Gungeon is missing too!
Re: Amazon's Excellent Fallout TV Adaptation Up for 16 Emmy Awards
@CrashBandicoat almost as though if you try to write a female character with likeability and depth without making her infallible, people will like it. The Rings of Power I won’t even watch because I love Tolkien. It’s pointless and I refuse to see it as canon.
Re: Amazon's Excellent Fallout TV Adaptation Up for 16 Emmy Awards
Hope it does well. Season 4 of The Bear was a total slog, just pretension all the way.
The Boys s4 however, was boss! I tried to explain THAT scene in Tek Knights basement to my girlfriend who looked absolutely horrified! Completely agree with all the Anthony Starr love as well. He’s so good as Homelander.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give The First Descendant?
Poll is missing “this garbage should not exist”
Re: Ubisoft Unveils Beyond Good & Evil: 20th Anniversary Edition's Physical Offerings
They really do love to flog this particular dead horse.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for July 2024?
I’ve already got BL3 and I’m not a sports fan or a child so nope. Not a great month for me.
Re: Metallica Fronts Musical PVP on Fortnite Festival's Battle Stage
@Odium @SystemAddict
One problem with Fortnite is that while it’s fun to run round as your Disposable Heroes and Fight Fire with Fire, Xbox players need to make sure they have a spare Battery for their controllers over longer play sessions. Running out must really tug at the Frayed Ends of Sanity and leave them with No Escape while their games Fade to Black.
PlayStation and particularly PC gamers might think they’re Holier Than Thou over this, but even with rechargeable batteries It’s Electric, so if you’re playing Fortnite like Nothing Else Matters and That Was Just Your Life, you’re hardly Unforgiven.
Re: Metallica Fronts Musical PVP on Fortnite Festival's Battle Stage
@Odium I haven’t much to say except that I love this comment and you win. That’s too adorable.
Re: Atomfall PS5, PS4's Apocalyptic UK Setting Will Be Familiar for All Those Unfortunate Enough to Live in Britain Today
This is EXACTLY my kind of thing. Like Everybody’s Gone to the Rapture but actually interesting!
Re: Random: What Happens to Your Digital PSN Library When You Die?
@Steel76 Putin knows what his boundaries are my friend. If he was going to do something to worry us then he’d have played his hand by now. Rest easy.
Re: Random: What Happens to Your Digital PSN Library When You Die?
@PerpetualBoredom STAND UP ALL VICTIMS OF OPPRESSION, FOR THE TYRANTS FEAR OUR MIGHT!
Re: Random: What Happens to Your Digital PSN Library When You Die?
Or I can just give my username and password to someone and they can keep using it. Suck it, capitalism!