For what it's worth, I do agree with you, it's not a good thing and I'd very much prefer it not to happen given the choice..... I just don't see it as that big of a deal with a game like this one.
Now if you told me in 10 years time all my Mario games would suddenly be unplayable I'd be devastated lol.
I've been doing a little bit of research in the case of this particular game.
The online only aspect only seems to apply to the My Career mode.
If there servers are down (or if indeed shut down altogether one day) then you can still play the game locally with a friend or against the AI
And there is every chance it may be patched in the future so that the My Career mode will still work
I agree it's obviously not good and it definitely shouldn't happen
The only thing I will say it that The Crew is a 10 year old game, so it's not quite the useless after 2 years that Psboxswitchowner was trying to claim.
In fairness I very much doubt that in 10 years time I'll still be wanting to play TopSpin 2K25, I'll probably be playing whatever the latest version is, so again I just don't see it as that big of a deal.
Just my opinion obviously, not suggesting that I'm right and your wrong.... just explaining why it doesn't bother me so much
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but at no point have I "not allowed you to have an opinion"
I've simply pointed out to you, that your logic of saying, "if somebody wanted a particular game they would already have it", could be applied to literally any game given away on PS Plus and I firmly stand by that point
I'm not a new kid though (unfortunately for me 🤣)
Born in 82 so grew up in the 90's you could say.
I get that the kidz of today probably wouldn't like it but I grew up playing them.
Don't get me wrong I love a bit of retro gaming, but football games in particular from back then just haven't aged very well I don't think.
The only Football game from back in the day that I can still play and enjoy is Sensible Soccer, always had a soft spot for that one, despite how terrible it looks 😃
I've read your post a few times and I'm still unsure if your agreeing or disagreeing with me.
Personally though, I don't mind COD games, I enjoy them but it's not something I enjoy enough to to shell out £70 a year on (basically because Im just not very good at it haha). I guess you could call me a casual COD fan.
So if and when one gets given away on PS plus, that suits me just fine.
And for me at least that's what PS plus is all about.
I don't expect every single game given away to by at the top of my shopping list but even if I get 5-6 games a year that I really like from it, then for me it's worth the subscription price
Whether there's a new game every 12 months or every 5 years is irrelevant.
My point was that you said if people want it, they'd already have it. Well you could say exactly the same thing about Horizon, or pretty much any game for that matter.
I'm going to assume you just don't like football in which case feel free to ignore what I'm about to say. lol.
If by chance you do though, I'd recommend giving EA Sports FC24 a try, I did coincidentally play ISS Pro 98 at a friend's house recently, my god it was awful compared to the new games. Just my opinion if course
Nostalgia is a great thing but sometimes you have to go back and play the older games to realise just how good the new ones are.
You don't have to buy them every year, just take this one as it's a freebie.
It's not great to be fair but I do think these always online stories get blown way out of proportion.
I used to get annoyed over the always online thing myself, but then I came to the realisation that my PS5 is always online anyway. If the servers are temporarily down for whatever reason then I'll just play something else for a while
I prefer to think of my subscription as a rental service , except instead of just renting one game I'm getting hundreds of them.
It gives me the opportunity to try lots of games I probably wouldn't look twice at under normal circumstances.
If I find something I really like that gets removed I can always buy it if I really want it. (The same as I would have had to do years ago when I took my rented game for the weekend back to Blockbuster)
I'm torn on it after being completely disappointed in the PS4 Pro.
The only good thing I can see is that we may start getting some actual PS5 exclusives and the PS4 can finally be left where it belongs....... in the past
I managed to get one a few weeks after it launched (right place right time, just happened to be in Smyth's just after they'd had a delivery)
I love the idea of it in principle, but I found it just glitches far too much for my liking.
Imagine playing a game of FIFA online and your opponent has a bad connection, unless I was in the house on my own and nothing else was putting a strain on the WiFi, it just didn't work very well.
We do have pretty decent fibre optic broadband as well.
Long story short, I sold it to a lad in work a week later, he's now sold it on again for the same reason
Nothing really for me this month but at the end of January, I did get 12 months of PS Extra for the price of Essential so anything I do get is Essentially (pun intended) a bonus
Nothing wrong with your opinion. if you don't like the games then you don't like them it's as simple as that, and that's absolutely fine... as I explained last time, it was more your choice of words that I took issue with
This sort of thing really used to trigger me and wind me up.
But then, as I've gotten (a bit) older I've come to the realisation that, when its switched on at least, my PS5 is always connected to the internet, literally always so I really don't see it as that big of a deal anymore.
If the servers are temporarily down for what ever reason, I'll just play something else. #1stworldproblems
I guess the only issue is years down the line when they turn the servers off. But the chances are I'll have no interest in playing it by then anyway.
Yeah if course everyone is entitled to an opinion.
I wasn't having a go.... I was just pointing out that what you may consider to be a terrible month might be considered to be absolute Gold to someone else.
I guess my issue was with your use of the word "terrible"
Nothing this month for you??? fair enough .......but to say it's terrible I thought was a bit harsh
I'd agree with you if this was for Xbox because EA play is included with Game Pass but for the majority of people on playstation who don't have it it's a nice bonus
Absolutely correct.... Sports games and Racing games are basically what my PS5 is for so the more of them we get the better value I get from my subscription.
I see what you're saying and if it was just a case of paying the difference between the price of the OG model and the Pro to be able to upgrade id completely agree with you
If you could trade your old model for full price and just pay the difference then yeah not a bad deal.
But they way I see it is I'll be probably paying £550 - £600 for the Pro version which basically has pretty minimal upgrades and doesn't justify it's price tag IMO
As much as I love my PS5 if there's one thing I've learnt from it's launch is that there wasn't really any need to dash out and get one straight away.
I've always been first in the queue whenever Sony or Nintendo launch a new console because I wanted to be able to play the latest games.
However if all the games are going to release as cross gen it kind of takes away that special new console feeling.
I get the argument of the last gen having a large install base that's too big to ignore and developers needed to see a return on their investments, but at the same time those of us who have paid out all that money on a shiny new console need to be rewarded for doing that.
As you said, I feel cheated.
Every time I see a game launching on PS4 & PS5 it really makes my blood boil
If it's available to everyone though, that would allow people who have already paid, to be able stack up their subscription (should they wish to do so). At least then they don't feel like they're being left out in the cold.
Personally I always tend to renew around Black Friday as there always tends to be a sale on then.
They could make their PS Plus Extra & Premium sales available to everyone for a start instead of cherry picking who can & can't take advantage of the offers when they're on sale.
I understand this obviously only effects existing PS owners rather than potential new buyers but still ..... a bit of goodwill goes a long way
We suspect it’ll drop once the developer’s done
Seriously??? do these people actually get paid for these predictions.
Obviously it'll drop once they've finished, it won't launch before it's finished and they sure as hell aren't going to just shelve it once they've finished
On the flip side it could be argued that it might make Nintendo up their game and create a more powerful console to Rival the Playstation.
At the moment they kind of do their own thing because there simple isn't a need to have 3 "High end" consoles. With Xbox potentially out of the way that could pave the way for a better rivalry between Sony and Nintendo
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Re: TopSpin 2K25 Is Being Slaughtered for Its Always Online Requirement, Even When Playing Solo
@Texaschainsaw83
For what it's worth, I do agree with you, it's not a good thing and I'd very much prefer it not to happen given the choice..... I just don't see it as that big of a deal with a game like this one.
Now if you told me in 10 years time all my Mario games would suddenly be unplayable I'd be devastated lol.
I've been doing a little bit of research in the case of this particular game.
The online only aspect only seems to apply to the My Career mode.
If there servers are down (or if indeed shut down altogether one day) then you can still play the game locally with a friend or against the AI
And there is every chance it may be patched in the future so that the My Career mode will still work
Re: TopSpin 2K25 Is Being Slaughtered for Its Always Online Requirement, Even When Playing Solo
@Flaming_Kaiser
I agree it's obviously not good and it definitely shouldn't happen
The only thing I will say it that The Crew is a 10 year old game, so it's not quite the useless after 2 years that Psboxswitchowner was trying to claim.
In fairness I very much doubt that in 10 years time I'll still be wanting to play TopSpin 2K25, I'll probably be playing whatever the latest version is, so again I just don't see it as that big of a deal.
Just my opinion obviously, not suggesting that I'm right and your wrong.... just explaining why it doesn't bother me so much
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
@Slippship
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but at no point have I "not allowed you to have an opinion"
I've simply pointed out to you, that your logic of saying, "if somebody wanted a particular game they would already have it", could be applied to literally any game given away on PS Plus and I firmly stand by that point
There's no need to be so defensive
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
@Slippship
I'm not a new kid though (unfortunately for me 🤣)
Born in 82 so grew up in the 90's you could say.
I get that the kidz of today probably wouldn't like it but I grew up playing them.
Don't get me wrong I love a bit of retro gaming, but football games in particular from back then just haven't aged very well I don't think.
The only Football game from back in the day that I can still play and enjoy is Sensible Soccer, always had a soft spot for that one, despite how terrible it looks 😃
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
@Uromastryx
I've read your post a few times and I'm still unsure if your agreeing or disagreeing with me.
Personally though, I don't mind COD games, I enjoy them but it's not something I enjoy enough to to shell out £70 a year on (basically because Im just not very good at it haha). I guess you could call me a casual COD fan.
So if and when one gets given away on PS plus, that suits me just fine.
And for me at least that's what PS plus is all about.
I don't expect every single game given away to by at the top of my shopping list but even if I get 5-6 games a year that I really like from it, then for me it's worth the subscription price
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
@Slippship
Whether there's a new game every 12 months or every 5 years is irrelevant.
My point was that you said if people want it, they'd already have it. Well you could say exactly the same thing about Horizon, or pretty much any game for that matter.
I'm going to assume you just don't like football in which case feel free to ignore what I'm about to say. lol.
If by chance you do though, I'd recommend giving EA Sports FC24 a try, I did coincidentally play ISS Pro 98 at a friend's house recently, my god it was awful compared to the new games. Just my opinion if course
Nostalgia is a great thing but sometimes you have to go back and play the older games to realise just how good the new ones are.
You don't have to buy them every year, just take this one as it's a freebie.
Re: TopSpin 2K25 Is Being Slaughtered for Its Always Online Requirement, Even When Playing Solo
@IslandLogic
What makes you so sure it won't?
As I say it's all Hypothetical
I prefer not to get stressed over something that may or may not happen
Re: TopSpin 2K25 Is Being Slaughtered for Its Always Online Requirement, Even When Playing Solo
@PsBoxSwitchOwner
No because the chances are that it will be patched by then so that it can be used offline.
in the same way Gran Turismo Sport was recently patched to work offline.
To say it will be useless in a few years time is a completely hypothetical situation that in all likelihood won't happen.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Sea of Thieves on PS5?
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Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
@Slippship
"C'mon Sony. If they wanted football they'd already have it."
What a ridiculous statement!!
You could literally apply that logic to every game thats given away on PS plus
Re: TopSpin 2K25 Is Being Slaughtered for Its Always Online Requirement, Even When Playing Solo
It's not great to be fair but I do think these always online stories get blown way out of proportion.
I used to get annoyed over the always online thing myself, but then I came to the realisation that my PS5 is always online anyway. If the servers are temporarily down for whatever reason then I'll just play something else for a while
#1stworldproblems
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
@Ainu20
If there's one thing the Internet has taught me it's that you will never, and I mean never be able to please everyone lol
Sony could give us 4 brand new AAA games every month and someone still would find a way to be unhappy with them.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
Pretty solid month to be fair.
I'm guessing there will be a big divide on whether this is a good month or not depending on which side of the pond you live on.
I know most Americans have zero to little interest in Football (sorry I refuse to call it Soccer)
Re: Huge PS Plus Clearout Confirmed for May, 25 Games Leaving
@Shepherd_Tallon
I prefer to think of my subscription as a rental service , except instead of just renting one game I'm getting hundreds of them.
It gives me the opportunity to try lots of games I probably wouldn't look twice at under normal circumstances.
If I find something I really like that gets removed I can always buy it if I really want it. (The same as I would have had to do years ago when I took my rented game for the weekend back to Blockbuster)
Re: Random: Lara Croft Tops Mario as the Most Iconic Video Game Character of All Time, Apparently
@PaperAlien
I'm British and I'm just as surprised as you are
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for April 2024 Announced
Erm........... Yeah........................ Hopefully May will be better
Re: Devs Allegedly Pondering the Point of Sony's PS5 Pro Upgrade
I'm torn on it after being completely disappointed in the PS4 Pro.
The only good thing I can see is that we may start getting some actual PS5 exclusives and the PS4 can finally be left where it belongs....... in the past
Re: PS Portal Is Proving Everyone's Predictions Wrong
I managed to get one a few weeks after it launched (right place right time, just happened to be in Smyth's just after they'd had a delivery)
I love the idea of it in principle, but I found it just glitches far too much for my liking.
Imagine playing a game of FIFA online and your opponent has a bad connection, unless I was in the house on my own and nothing else was putting a strain on the WiFi, it just didn't work very well.
We do have pretty decent fibre optic broadband as well.
Long story short, I sold it to a lad in work a week later, he's now sold it on again for the same reason
Re: TopSpin 2K25's Full Roster of Pro Players Is Missing Many Major Names on PS5, PS4
As long as it plays well, I'm willing to look past this.
I've always enjoyed tennis video games whilst not actually being a massive Tennis fan in real life.
If I'm honest I don't really know who the majority of people you listed are anyway 😂
Re: Mini Review: Taxi Life: A City Driving Simulator (PS5) - Taxi Sim Stalls on Arrival
Genuinely interested to play this, but probably not enough to actually buy it.
I'll more than likely wait till it inevitably gets given away on PS Plus at some point
Re: Sony Allegedly Pausing PSVR2 Production Due to Surplus of Unsold Stock
grabs box of popcorn ready to sit back and read all the comments
Re: Temporary PS5 Price Cuts Target Europe As Sony Makes Final Push for Goal
Sometimes I wish I didn't have a PS5 so I could take advantage of these offers and enjoy that New console excitement again
Re: 13 New Games Land on PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
Nothing really for me this month but at the end of January, I did get 12 months of PS Extra for the price of Essential so anything I do get is Essentially (pun intended) a bonus
Re: Reaction: What Is Happening to the Video Games Industry and Why Are There So Many Layoffs?
I blame Microsoft / Xbox
No particular reason..... I just don't like them
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for March 2024 Announced
@LazyLombax
Nothing wrong with your opinion. if you don't like the games then you don't like them it's as simple as that, and that's absolutely fine... as I explained last time, it was more your choice of words that I took issue with
Re: Test Drive Unlimited: Solar Crown Will Require an Internet Connection on PS5
This sort of thing really used to trigger me and wind me up.
But then, as I've gotten (a bit) older I've come to the realisation that, when its switched on at least, my PS5 is always connected to the internet, literally always so I really don't see it as that big of a deal anymore.
If the servers are temporarily down for what ever reason, I'll just play something else. #1stworldproblems
I guess the only issue is years down the line when they turn the servers off. But the chances are I'll have no interest in playing it by then anyway.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for March 2024 Announced
@LazyLombax
Yeah if course everyone is entitled to an opinion.
I wasn't having a go.... I was just pointing out that what you may consider to be a terrible month might be considered to be absolute Gold to someone else.
I guess my issue was with your use of the word "terrible"
Nothing this month for you??? fair enough .......but to say it's terrible I thought was a bit harsh
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for March 2024 Announced
@LazyLombax
You have to remember each person's perspective will be different to your own.
Personally I'd take the games we're getting this March over the games you listed all day long as they wouldn't interest me at all.
We all have different tastes in games, which is a good thing otherwise the world (and these forums) would be a pretty boring place
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for March 2024 Announced
@Arkham24601
I'd agree with you if this was for Xbox because EA play is included with Game Pass but for the majority of people on playstation who don't have it it's a nice bonus
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for March 2024 Announced
@Toilet_Goat
Absolutely correct.... Sports games and Racing games are basically what my PS5 is for so the more of them we get the better value I get from my subscription.
Re: PS Plus Essential Game for March 2024 Leaked
@Bunchesopuppies
Just because you personally dislike fighting games that doesn't make it "Lame"
Re: PS Portal Proving More Popular Than Sony Expected
I had one but I sold it due to our WIFI not being strong enough to run it properly.
It worked perfectly fine if I was home alone but as soon as other people were using other devices in the house it made it go all glitchy.
For it to only work when I'm in the house on my own kind of defeats the objective as I might as well just play on the TV or my monitor.
Re: Video: One Year Later, Is PSVR2 Doing Enough?
The short answer is No
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of PSVR2, One Year Later?
When it first launched I got shouted at on here by some of the VR diehards when I originally claimed it was over priced.
So I'll rephrase what I said and say that it's just too expensive.
I have what I'd call a passing interest in it but I just can't justify the price tag.
Could I afford one? Yes of course, but that isn't the point
Re: Upgraded PS5 Pro Planning to Be the Best Place to Play GTA 6
@SgtTruth
I see what you're saying and if it was just a case of paying the difference between the price of the OG model and the Pro to be able to upgrade id completely agree with you
If you could trade your old model for full price and just pay the difference then yeah not a bad deal.
But they way I see it is I'll be probably paying £550 - £600 for the Pro version which basically has pretty minimal upgrades and doesn't justify it's price tag IMO
Re: Upgraded PS5 Pro Planning to Be the Best Place to Play GTA 6
If we're talking the same type of upgrade as we got from PS4 to PS4 Pro (I'm going to assume that's the case) then I for one won't be bothering.
Never felt as cheated in my life with the PS4 Pro, a complete waste of money.
If my OG PS5 ever breaks then I'd be all over it but it certainly wasn't a worthy "upgrade"
Re: Xbox Is Bringing Four Exclusives to PS5, But It Won't Say Which
All they've done is create more questions than answers.
Seriously why not just name the games lol
Re: PS5 Is Entering the 'Latter Stages of Its Life Cycle', Says Sony
@Luigia
Definitely..... although I didn't like it at the time I could just about accept it at the start, maybe upto about 6 months into the cross over period.
But there is absolutely no excuse for it to still be happening now over 3 years down the line
Re: PS5 Is Entering the 'Latter Stages of Its Life Cycle', Says Sony
@itsfoz
I completely agree.
As much as I love my PS5 if there's one thing I've learnt from it's launch is that there wasn't really any need to dash out and get one straight away.
I've always been first in the queue whenever Sony or Nintendo launch a new console because I wanted to be able to play the latest games.
However if all the games are going to release as cross gen it kind of takes away that special new console feeling.
I get the argument of the last gen having a large install base that's too big to ignore and developers needed to see a return on their investments, but at the same time those of us who have paid out all that money on a shiny new console need to be rewarded for doing that.
As you said, I feel cheated.
Every time I see a game launching on PS4 & PS5 it really makes my blood boil
Re: 13 More Games Coming to PS Plus Extra, Premium This Month
Swish Swish
He's on fire
Re: PS5 Sales Touch 55 Million As Sony Breaks Records
@Herculean
If it's available to everyone though, that would allow people who have already paid, to be able stack up their subscription (should they wish to do so). At least then they don't feel like they're being left out in the cold.
Personally I always tend to renew around Black Friday as there always tends to be a sale on then.
Re: PS5 Sales Touch 55 Million As Sony Breaks Records
They could make their PS Plus Extra & Premium sales available to everyone for a start instead of cherry picking who can & can't take advantage of the offers when they're on sale.
I understand this obviously only effects existing PS owners rather than potential new buyers but still ..... a bit of goodwill goes a long way
Re: GTA 6 Is Unlikely to Release Before April 2025, Analysts Advise
We suspect it’ll drop once the developer’s done
Seriously??? do these people actually get paid for these predictions.
Obviously it'll drop once they've finished, it won't launch before it's finished and they sure as hell aren't going to just shelve it once they've finished
Re: Poll: Which Xbox Franchises Would You Buy on PS5?
Forza Motorsport and the Forza Horizon games
End of list
Re: Microsoft's Recent Layoffs Contradict Activision Blizzard Buyout Pledges, Says FTC
Xbox are turning into a complete laughing stock
long may it continue
Re: Poll: How Do You Feel About All of the Xbox Multiplatform Rumours?
@Fiendish-Beaver
On the flip side it could be argued that it might make Nintendo up their game and create a more powerful console to Rival the Playstation.
At the moment they kind of do their own thing because there simple isn't a need to have 3 "High end" consoles. With Xbox potentially out of the way that could pave the way for a better rivalry between Sony and Nintendo
Re: Poll: How Do You Feel About All of the Xbox Multiplatform Rumours?
I'd be happy to play the Forza games, but to be truthful, other than that they don't have a single exclusive that really interests me.
Which is basically why I sold my Series X
People worry that less competition is bad for the industry but as long as Nintendo is still around to keep Sony on their toes I'd be fine with that
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for February 2024?
One of the better months in recent times to be fair
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for February 2024 Announced
As a massive fan of the Tony Hawks series of games Rollerdrome is probably the highlight for me
Foamstars looks interesting so I'll certainly give that a try
I absolutely hate RPG games though so I'll probably pass on Steelrising
Re: Spanish Sales of PS Portal Are Gaining on PSVR2
@TrickyDicky99
Even the Scalpers thought it was too expensive 😄