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@Legend_Au Aang is coming in the mini-pass later on.

Sony got lucky with the PS4. They were able to support the expensive single player adventures with HD ports of older quirky portable titles to maintain that unique indie feel the PS3 brought to things.

But the PS5 era has seen Japan Studio shuttered and an over-investment in obviously now-cancelled live service titles that the market never asked for. Hoyo pull in the money by meeting players where they are on the hardware they already own rather than needing a dedicated console and the markets are very different.

In other words Sony need to keep spending the money on the big single player titles, which Nintendo have proven can be evergreen with solid update support. Who knows how much they’ve raked in by supporting Mario Kart 8 with ongoing DLC? But they need smaller, cheaper titles to fill in the gaps and remind us why we love PlayStation in the first place.

There goes the live service investments. Let’s hope they refocus on the single player titles that made the PS4 such a winner.

“We over hired during the pandemic on live service titles which we have since canned after realising players don’t want them.”

@Ooccoo_Jr The PS5 or the VR? The answer to both was Sony investing money in now-cancelled live service titles instead of the single player adventures that kept it on top last gen.

It’s alright: Microsoft are here to fill in the gaps!

So, at the very least give people an option to download and store those purchases.

I reckon this isn’t as innocent as made out. If Microsoft do stop making consoles it means Sony could be claimed to be a monopoly on high-end consoles and the EU might get the platform to open up to 3rd party stores.

Now having the Epic Store or Steam on PS5 would be pretty great but it would also allow Microsoft to bring Game Pass to PlayStation with impunity.

This is the best bit! Arguably Midgar, despite being the most iconic part of VII is actually the worst bit in the game. Finally getting to the world map is up there with Hyrule Field!

Gamers: “We hate the live service business model. Give us everything up front!”

Also Gamers: “Where are our constant updates?!?”

A handheld that could play 100% of your existing digital PS4 library out of the box that was about the same dimensions as the Switch OLED would do gangsters

PSVR2 WipEout.

That is all.

They had one job. Honestly.

Cool cyborg ninja with backwards sword technique vs whiny blonde ring pull and they go with the rug pull.

Come on Epic, nobody wants Raiden in a world Gray Fox exists in.

@starbuck2212 @LifeGirl I was being satirical…. 😅

Sounds like something they’d do though!

As from their website:

“To change their appearance, Guardians must hunt down Isha Torus in the Tower. From here they will be able to pick up a new series of quests which will grant them ‘image marks’. Players get 10 marks per quest and it costs 200 per edit. To initiate an edit players must also have harvested 500 Fractal Crystals from the game world. This is available on a time limited part of Nightfall Raids from Feb 1 - Feb 13th.”

@Nem It was actually based on arbitrary dialog choices during gameplay. It was possible to choose all the negative options towards Tifa and Aeris and go on a man date with Barret!

Sony should consider how easy it is to get PSP titles up and running on mobile devices and either sell ports for $10 a pop or include them in a layer of the PS+ sub.

Given the PS5 only has a handful of truly exclusive games that weren’t cross-gen it makes sense to save a few bob and get a PS4. You can still lose a few thousand days in FFXIV, Forbidden West still looks incredible and you can’t play WipEout in VR on PS5.

The fact they describe Streets of Rage Revolution as side scrolling bodes well.

@bindiana they've also made wraps pointless and any more than 4-5 sets of emotes a waste of time.

You had a pretty terrible PS2 multiplayer shooter, a sequel that added some decent multiplayer options and an EA threequel that was 2000's EA through and through.

None of the games were anything close to Perfect Dark on the N64. I put it forward that Timesplitters was overrated.

They shouldn't be more than 800 a piece for non-licenced skins. If they manage to bring, say the Delorean from Bttf then I might pay a bit more.

It needs a lot of tidying up really. Only 8 music tracks, no ability to use unlocked lobby music and a separate £14 purchase for the music pass is kind of taking the mick at this stage.

They're also asking for £28 for a car cosmetic skin, the price of many standalone racing titles.

Do Sony have some sort of deal with Disney to release loads of crappy PS1 games instead of the stuff that's already on the PSN like Parasite Eve, Alundra, Front Mission 3 or MGS?

Honestly it never hooked me. Dossing around the game world with the cheats was fun for a weekend but that's it. GTA V is so old I rented it from Blockbuster at launch and did exactly that.

This is my point: Sony need to get off their ass and get more classic PS1 games out so people who prevously bought them can regain access to their purchases. You also have the option of buying them new instead of just getting them via a sub.

• Buy PPSSPP
• Bolt on the PSP Store that aready exists
• Profit

Oh Sony.

Just port all your PSP titles to mobile and charge a $10 unlock fee after the first hour of gameplay.

It's not that hard.

@Terra_Custodes The point is that those classic games are all under a tenner and still available nearly 20 years later. Horizon Zero Dawn is nearly 7 years old and also under a tenner. I am sure when 2028 rolls around Forbidden West will also be available on the PlayStation 6 for under a tenner.

But to circle back to the original point: videogame prices haven't risen with inflation and digital preservation is easier than physical.

@DaniPooo Actually any PS1 games you hold a digital licence for that get released onto PS+ you can redownload at no additional cost or indeed buy new for the first time. So my 2006 Wild Arms purchase would still work and carry over

But will they ruin it by investing their profits in more big single player titles or failed live services?

@Terra_Custodes My point is that whilst the prices for some digital titles might seem high given the lack of physical infrastructure to manage, they stay in place for decades. I can still download a new copy of Wild Arms on any PlayStation platform made in the last 20 years but I cannot walk into a store and buy a new sealed one. And where a sealed copy might exist it is a lot more expensive than the digital one because it is a collectors item.

Somebody further up the chain was saying how digital prices should be lower than physical because there are no store shelves to think about but the presence on those shelves is a fraction of the time it exists in a digital store.

@z0d15g0d Nope, £60 each. I paid £85 for Majora's Mask because I had to buy the expansion pack with it!

I found BG3 to be just another po-faced WRPG with far too many game mechanics that get in the way of having fun.

Give me the whimsy of Fable 2 any day of the week.

@Robinsad Due to inflation that £500m for Forbidden West in todays money is only worth. Based on £1 in 2000 equating to £1.80 today like for like its £300m vs £150m. It also cost £100m to develop Forbidden West whereas Perfect Dark was probably a lot cheaper.

The point is that videogames have not risen in cost due to inflation. A £60 videogame today is tremendous value for money.

@Terra_Custodes Perhaps for modern titles. But Can I wander into a store and buy a new, sealed copy of Parasite Eve 2 for £9?

@knowles2 Whilst the lack of infrastructure and manufacturing plays some part what we have with online stores is server space, perpetual rental, SDK funding and the like.

The chances of being able to walk into a store (if you can find one) and buying a new copy of Wild Arms from the PS1 are pretty slim yet I can log onto the store on my PSP/Vita/PS3/PS4/PS5 and buy it.

Price of videogame in 2000: £60 for Perfect Dark or Majora's Mask on.N64.

Price of videogame in 2022: £60 for Horizon Forbidden West or Gran Turismo 7 on PS4

What did I miss?

Dear Sony

You spent years making great games for a portable console. Buy the PPSSPP emulator, attach the PSP store and call it a day.

@Kevw2006 I was being sarcastic and pointing out how crappy Sony have been rolling out their PS1 catalog.

Some old Winnie the Pooh title or Parasite Eve 2?

I live in hope it's Microsoft. They'd dump their entire back catalog on Gamepass in one day whereas Sony would release one Disney-themed title every 2 months and leave the rest to rot.

Destiny 2 started out great because it massively streamlined a lot of game mechanics and added in an action packed, focussed campaign.

Fast forward a few years and they're back to square one with a game collapsing under the weight of its own lore and mechanics.

What is needed is a reset. I still think Destiny can be salvaged as a property but remade as a single player RPG like Starfield. Set it across the whole solar system, allow us to fly the ships and tell a new story. Heck, send us back in time to when the traveller just prior to the collapse when the human race is at its zenith to prevent the Darkness from ever winning.

It was never the bulk that was the issue but the height. I would have actually bought one had they made it significantly shorter so it actually fits under my TV

And that £3.5bn was the money needed to stop Microsoft buying Bungie and getting them to rebuild Halo. I'm not for consolidation practices but let's not pretend Sony aren't as underhanded as Microsoft in all this.

@thefourfoldroot1 the layoffs and cancellations make me think that the GaaS idea won't ever pan out. PS5 is selling like hotcakes based on classic single player Playstation titles rather than the promise of a Fortnite competitor; whilst the layoffs are a shame they are also probably cuts of an overhiring of staff for projects that no longer exist.

Slim as in 'I lost 3ib by giving up one chocolate biscuit'.

It's only 5mm shorter than the old model and still too bloody tall

This was inevitable. Players only have so much time and the market is saturated as it is. Fortnite doesn't get the attention it once did from Epic having morphed from a live service title to more of a bi-monthly update one. They've not for example done a good live event scenario in over 18 months.

I would argue strongly that Final Fantasy VII is in fact the worst PS1 FF game. Despite still being a bloody good title in and of itself (don’t forget I said that!) VIII and IX had much more believable, cohesive worlds and IMO better battle systems.

No effort is made in VII to really explain how the heck an evil utility company came to replace all world governments and why their endgame was in fact cheaper bills for their customers.

@Smash41 It would be alright if they actually wheeled out some decent titles but the selection of PSP and PS1 games has been terrible.

It’s only games they already sell (sold?) on the PS3/PSP store. I can understand why the likes of MGS or Final Fantasy haven’t come out but how about Alundra, WipEout or Soul Reaver?

Converting people who already paid for online services into subs was pretty easy as on the whole they are getting a better deal. Expanding that service is another thing entirely. We can see by the sales of Sea of Stars that people still like to own their games rather than perpetually renting them.