For comparison GTA 5 cost $265 million to develop and market. That includes music licensing, Mo cap, tonne of voice actors, the online mode and that was for 5 years of development.
@FatalBubbles Honestly never heard of him before especially as I don't really follow podcasts or X posts etc. Just find it hard to believe this game cost in the same region as Sony's two most expensive games combined, which both also had bigger marketing as well.
@get2sammyb That's the thing, would Sony ever report how much h they spent on this game? And if not then anyone can go round throwing absurd figures without anyway to prove them wrong. Also if it is true then wouldn't this be the most expensive game made to date outside of GTA?
@Tecinthebrain PS3 Remasters definitely make more sense, we have PS1 and PS2 ports coming via Playstation Plus and we can play any PS4 game, but the PS5 can't do PS3 emulation so we aren't getting them ported over any time soon. So Remasters are the only way.
@OldGamer999 Well I think it could happen if they give the IP's to a third party to work on.
And no, it's too much money to spend right before Christmas, I have a big family with my partners included as well so I will be spending £600+ on presents, maybe next year just in time for GTA 6.
@OldGamer999 poor sales unfortunately, it's either make a Killzone or Resistance that sold less than 3 million each or make Spider-Man and Horizon Zero Dawn which both sold close to 20 million.
A lot of users on here want these older games to be revisited but the actual majority of gamers don't, Unfortunately Sony don't just cater to us users on this site, as we are the minority. But man if they did gaming would be at its best.
I also understand making remasters for a new generation of gamers who missed out on these games originally, but Days Gone and Horizon are too recent for that many playstation gamers to have missed out on them.
I'd take Remasters over straight up HD ports any day, but only aslong as they aren't over priced and atleast two generations old. So for Horizon and Days Gone I'm not interested as they are unnecessary but give me some PS3 Remasters of Infamous 1/2, Motorstorm, Resistance 3, Puppeteer or Folklore and il buy them day one.
Still not enough to tempt me to get the Pro, but man I'm definitely getting one of those controllers and maybe even trade in my current portal for that limited edition one, Beautiful stuff.
If there is definitely a patent infringement then I'm all for Nintendo taking them to court, you don't pay to patent something for no reason.
As someone mentioned on NintendoLife, Nintendo have 3 patents for pokemon
They do have 3 patents around data storage and transfer of "objects" in a virtual space that specifically deal with Pokémon; 20240100432, US11782898B2 and US11782898B2. These deal with software and coding techniques, as well as DB infrastructure.
I'm going for a Gravity Rush Remaster, wasn't it shown during a Sony tech show? Plus there's a film of it in production as well so it would make sense to release the game around the time of its release.
@__Seraph I have to agree with you, gaming for me has never been better and the sales of hardware and software continue to be strong even with all these free to play games and mobile games taking up so much of people's time. Wukong, Elden Ring, HellDivers 2, Hogwarts Legacy, latest Zelda games and many others getting huge numbers. The amount of handheld PCs that are getting released also shows how strong console gaming is that even steam want in on the console market. Also I Personally think indie games are getting better and better and way more recognition than they've ever had before. Then there's the Korean and Chinese market kicking off and actually taking gaming seriously and putting out decent games.
The gaming market is as strong as it's ever been right now.
Those steam numbers are still poor, and being on xbox isn't going to shift a lot of sales, wouldn't even sell a third the amount it does on playstation. So their only other option is to release them on the Nintnedo Switch which would mean downscaling the game quite a lot, and then making future games based on Nintendo's hardware.
Maybe then they will reach the sales figures they "expect", or just maybe people have lost faith in square enix and are more wary about buying their games day one and at full price, especially after flops like Foamstars, Forspoken, Babylons Fall and Avengers.
Sony Remade TLOU 1 ready for the TV series, they remastered uncharted around the time the film launched and so I can only guess this game is getting remastered due to the (now cancelled) Horizon TV show.
Apparently the show has been cancelled but if Sony have spent money and time on the remaster then they will still want to release it.
It's also rumoured Sega have been given the Wipeout IP to work on.
The same situation with the Lego Horizon game, and back in the day they got Level 5 to work on Dark Cloud and White Knight Chronicles. Hopefully they get more third party studio's working on their dormant IP's.
I wish sony would bring more vita games over to PS5, either remasters or just ports vis playstation plus premium. Killzone Mercenary, Soul Sacrifice, Resistance Burning Skies and Army Corps of Hell next please.
See, Sony do share their games with other consoles lol.
Looking forward to playing this again, I didn't play it on Vita until a few years after release, which by that time it was impossible to play online. This time il be getting it day one whilst servers are populated.
@SlipperyFish I must have been half asleep when reading this article as I missed the part that said it was a parody site, makes sense now. If Geoff knows it's a parody site then I don't know why he's bothering.
Who runs that site? Some butthurt Xbox fanboy? Looking through most of their articles and I can't take them seriously. Why is Geoff even bothering to interact with them is beyond me.
@MrMagic Looks like things are looking very positive for the game and hopefully a sequel gets greenlit. Will likely sell even more once it gets some game of the year awards to its name.
Top 5 games on metacritic this year so far are Astro Bot, FF7 ReBirth, Balatro, Animal Well and a Castlevania collection. So what formula is he talking about?
Personally though I do sometimes rely on metacritic, for those games I'm unsure about I'd say a 65+ is enough to persuade me to get it at some point in a sale, 80+ and il get it sooner.
Fully agree with him about PCs, and glad to see that their main focus is still going to be consoles going forward
I am interested in getting a steam deck sometime in the future, but even with that it looks too fiddly with changing the settings for each game to get them running well. Also people complain about the Pros price yet the Rog Ally X costs £800 and that's just an handheld that still can't play most AAA games at high settings.
@DonJorginho I meant as in a lot of people moan about Sony's live service push and want single player games that aren't "dad sims" and yet they finally give us one which by the sounds of it has failed to sell well. And the same happened with Ratchet and Clank, Sackboy, Sly, Jak and Daxter etc poor sales lead to Sony not making these type of games.
Is this for Europe as well as we don't have the Explore tab, and if so is there a way to turn this off fully?
Also will unchecking all the widgets just leave a blank screen with my chosen background showing? Hate cluttered screens and ads so I'd rather have it minimalistic as possible and showing more of the background.
@thefourfoldroot1 Of course people will pay it, you have people paying over £1000 for mobile phones that get new versions every 12 months, paying £600-£700 on a console that will last 7 years before a new one comes out is nothing to them. Even for those that cant afford it upfront there's more options to pay than there's ever been with Clearpay, Klarna, PayPal and various Catalogs, you can even add a PS5 to your phone Contract. If people want something then they're going to get it, even if isnt really needed like the PRO.
Let's see what the total sales are like after Christmas, there's going to be quite a few parents who get this as presents and are probably waitimg for a price decrease first.
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Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
For comparison GTA 5 cost $265 million to develop and market. That includes music licensing, Mo cap, tonne of voice actors, the online mode and that was for 5 years of development.
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
@FatalBubbles Honestly never heard of him before especially as I don't really follow podcasts or X posts etc. Just find it hard to believe this game cost in the same region as Sony's two most expensive games combined, which both also had bigger marketing as well.
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
@get2sammyb That's the thing, would Sony ever report how much h they spent on this game? And if not then anyone can go round throwing absurd figures without anyway to prove them wrong. Also if it is true then wouldn't this be the most expensive game made to date outside of GTA?
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
I prefer solid facts over "I heard it from" statements from some bloke on a podcast or X post.
I for one don't believe this game cost near the same as TLOU Part 2 and Horizon Forbidden West combined ($220 million each).
Re: PS5 Pro Playable at Tokyo Game Show as Sony Announces Full Lineup
Nice to see Sony back a TGS and with a strong line up of Japanese games.
Re: PS5's Commanding Console Position Is Seemingly Insurmountable
Sony just announced their TGS line up and it's looking pretty good, should hopefully help shift more consoles in Japan
https://www.gematsu.com/2024/09/sony-interactive-entertainment-announces-full-tgs-2024-lineup-schedule
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@Tecinthebrain PS3 Remasters definitely make more sense, we have PS1 and PS2 ports coming via Playstation Plus and we can play any PS4 game, but the PS5 can't do PS3 emulation so we aren't getting them ported over any time soon. So Remasters are the only way.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@OldGamer999 Well I think it could happen if they give the IP's to a third party to work on.
And no, it's too much money to spend right before Christmas, I have a big family with my partners included as well so I will be spending £600+ on presents, maybe next year just in time for GTA 6.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@OldGamer999 poor sales unfortunately, it's either make a Killzone or Resistance that sold less than 3 million each or make Spider-Man and Horizon Zero Dawn which both sold close to 20 million.
A lot of users on here want these older games to be revisited but the actual majority of gamers don't, Unfortunately Sony don't just cater to us users on this site, as we are the minority. But man if they did gaming would be at its best.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
I also understand making remasters for a new generation of gamers who missed out on these games originally, but Days Gone and Horizon are too recent for that many playstation gamers to have missed out on them.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
I'd take Remasters over straight up HD ports any day, but only aslong as they aren't over priced and atleast two generations old. So for Horizon and Days Gone I'm not interested as they are unnecessary but give me some PS3 Remasters of Infamous 1/2, Motorstorm, Resistance 3, Puppeteer or Folklore and il buy them day one.
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
@OldGamer999 Lucky you 😢, I get paid the last Friday of every month and for some reason playstation like to drop things on a Thursday.
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
Omg, just saw they are dropping on the 26th (a Thursday) yet for those of us in the UK it's payday on the 27th 😥.
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
Still not enough to tempt me to get the Pro, but man I'm definitely getting one of those controllers and maybe even trade in my current portal for that limited edition one, Beautiful stuff.
Re: Palworld Struck by Nintendo Lawsuit Days Prior to Predicted PS5 Reveal
If there is definitely a patent infringement then I'm all for Nintendo taking them to court, you don't pay to patent something for no reason.
As someone mentioned on NintendoLife, Nintendo have 3 patents for pokemon
They do have 3 patents around data storage and transfer of "objects" in a virtual space that specifically deal with Pokémon; 20240100432, US11782898B2 and US11782898B2. These deal with software and coding techniques, as well as DB infrastructure.
Re: Sony Priming 'Even Less Exciting' PS5 Remaster for State of Play
I'm going for a Gravity Rush Remaster, wasn't it shown during a Sony tech show? Plus there's a film of it in production as well so it would make sense to release the game around the time of its release.
Re: PS5 Exclusives Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Failed to Meet Expectations
@__Seraph I have to agree with you, gaming for me has never been better and the sales of hardware and software continue to be strong even with all these free to play games and mobile games taking up so much of people's time. Wukong, Elden Ring, HellDivers 2, Hogwarts Legacy, latest Zelda games and many others getting huge numbers. The amount of handheld PCs that are getting released also shows how strong console gaming is that even steam want in on the console market. Also I Personally think indie games are getting better and better and way more recognition than they've ever had before. Then there's the Korean and Chinese market kicking off and actually taking gaming seriously and putting out decent games.
The gaming market is as strong as it's ever been right now.
Re: PS5 Exclusives Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Failed to Meet Expectations
Those steam numbers are still poor, and being on xbox isn't going to shift a lot of sales, wouldn't even sell a third the amount it does on playstation. So their only other option is to release them on the Nintnedo Switch which would mean downscaling the game quite a lot, and then making future games based on Nintendo's hardware.
Maybe then they will reach the sales figures they "expect", or just maybe people have lost faith in square enix and are more wary about buying their games day one and at full price, especially after flops like Foamstars, Forspoken, Babylons Fall and Avengers.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn's PS5, PC Remaster Is Very Much the Real Deal
Sony Remade TLOU 1 ready for the TV series, they remastered uncharted around the time the film launched and so I can only guess this game is getting remastered due to the (now cancelled) Horizon TV show.
Apparently the show has been cancelled but if Sony have spent money and time on the remaster then they will still want to release it.
Re: In an Unprecedented Twist, Sony Is Licensing Freedom Wars to Bandai Namco
It's also rumoured Sega have been given the Wipeout IP to work on.
The same situation with the Lego Horizon game, and back in the day they got Level 5 to work on Dark Cloud and White Knight Chronicles. Hopefully they get more third party studio's working on their dormant IP's.
Re: Stone-Cold PS Vita Classic Returns in Freedom Wars Remastered PS5, PS4
I wish sony would bring more vita games over to PS5, either remasters or just ports vis playstation plus premium. Killzone Mercenary, Soul Sacrifice, Resistance Burning Skies and Army Corps of Hell next please.
Re: Stone-Cold PS Vita Classic Returns in Freedom Wars Remastered PS5, PS4
@MrMagic It's supposed to be a new Wipeout from Sega.
Re: Stone-Cold PS Vita Classic Returns in Freedom Wars Remastered PS5, PS4
See, Sony do share their games with other consoles lol.
Looking forward to playing this again, I didn't play it on Vita until a few years after release, which by that time it was impossible to play online. This time il be getting it day one whilst servers are populated.
Re: 10 Major PS5, PS4 Games Are Getting Axed from PS Plus Extra, Including LittleBigPlanet 3
I don't mind them removing games after a year or two but I've noticed that the games leaving aren't being replaced like for like quality wise.
Re: The Game Awards Host Geoff Keighley and Parody Site Hard Drive Are Beefing
@SlipperyFish I must have been half asleep when reading this article as I missed the part that said it was a parody site, makes sense now. If Geoff knows it's a parody site then I don't know why he's bothering.
Re: The Game Awards Host Geoff Keighley and Parody Site Hard Drive Are Beefing
Same site that made this article
https://hard-drive.net/hd/video-games/ps5-pro-to-be-bundled-with-dildo-attachment-for-fanboys-to-ride/
Who runs that site? Some butthurt Xbox fanboy? Looking through most of their articles and I can't take them seriously. Why is Geoff even bothering to interact with them is beyond me.
Re: PS5's Astro Bot the USA's Second Best-Selling Game in Its First Week
@MrMagic Looks like things are looking very positive for the game and hopefully a sequel gets greenlit. Will likely sell even more once it gets some game of the year awards to its name.
Re: PS5's Astro Bot the USA's Second Best-Selling Game in Its First Week
Seems like it's doing well, I think anywhere between 3-5 million units sold by the end of the year would be classed as a success.
Re: Blizzard Reportedly Made $150 Million in Diablo 4 Microtransactions
And this is why live service isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Re: Suda 51 Says 'Everyone Cares Too Much About Metacritic Scores'
Top 5 games on metacritic this year so far are Astro Bot, FF7 ReBirth, Balatro, Animal Well and a Castlevania collection. So what formula is he talking about?
Personally though I do sometimes rely on metacritic, for those games I'm unsure about I'd say a 65+ is enough to persuade me to get it at some point in a sale, 80+ and il get it sooner.
Re: Mini Review: Funko Fusion (PS5) - Bland, Cryptic Nostalgia Bait Lacks LEGO's Charm
This review plus the games metacritic rating has put me off getting this game. Maybe one day when it's under £10.
Re: Sony Boss Says 'PCs Are Difficult to Set Up', Firm Will Focus on PS5
Fully agree with him about PCs, and glad to see that their main focus is still going to be consoles going forward
I am interested in getting a steam deck sometime in the future, but even with that it looks too fiddly with changing the settings for each game to get them running well. Also people complain about the Pros price yet the Rog Ally X costs £800 and that's just an handheld that still can't play most AAA games at high settings.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for September 2024?
Very happy this month with Plucky Squire, Chernobylite, Night in the Woods and Road 96.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Astro Bot?
@VaultGuy415 Yeah Splashing Sprint was rage inducing, that level and the last Crumble Rumble level are what stopped me from getting 100%.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Astro Bot?
10/10 for me, such a pure fun game and massive nostalgia trip that's persuaded me to downlaod a play a lot of older games.
Astro is right up there with ReBirth and Stellar Blade for my GOTY.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Astro Bot Barely Registers at Retail, PS5 Numbers Plummet After Price Hike
@DonJorginho I meant as in a lot of people moan about Sony's live service push and want single player games that aren't "dad sims" and yet they finally give us one which by the sounds of it has failed to sell well. And the same happened with Ratchet and Clank, Sackboy, Sly, Jak and Daxter etc poor sales lead to Sony not making these type of games.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Astro Bot Barely Registers at Retail, PS5 Numbers Plummet After Price Hike
If Astro Bot fails sales wise then Sony will just stick to live service and no one can blame them.
Re: Feature: Everything You Can Do in PS5's New Welcome Hub
@waltdisneypixar You're not the only one, I'm the same and would prefer to keep things as they are now and prefer a more simple UI.
Re: Feature: Everything You Can Do in PS5's New Welcome Hub
Is this for Europe as well as we don't have the Explore tab, and if so is there a way to turn this off fully?
Also will unchecking all the widgets just leave a blank screen with my chosen background showing? Hate cluttered screens and ads so I'd rather have it minimalistic as possible and showing more of the background.
Re: Palworld Reportedly Poised for PS5 Reveal at Tokyo Game Show
@Smash41 ironically Xbox actually pays for more timed exclusives than Playstation does.
Re: This May Be the Most Pointless Boxed PS5 Game Ever
Concord takes that crown.
Re: Prospective PS5 Pro Buyers Cause Disc Drives to Sell Out
And I was nearly convinced it was going to flop due to the price.... 😅
Re: Lack of Competition from Xbox Partly Why PS5 Pro Is $700, Says Analyst
@thefourfoldroot1 Of course people will pay it, you have people paying over £1000 for mobile phones that get new versions every 12 months, paying £600-£700 on a console that will last 7 years before a new one comes out is nothing to them. Even for those that cant afford it upfront there's more options to pay than there's ever been with Clearpay, Klarna, PayPal and various Catalogs, you can even add a PS5 to your phone Contract. If people want something then they're going to get it, even if isnt really needed like the PRO.
Re: Lack of Competition from Xbox Partly Why PS5 Pro Is $700, Says Analyst
So by 2029 they would make over £9 Billion just on Pro sales if he's correct.
Re: PS5 Pro Reveal Is Already Sony's Most Disliked Console Announcement
Some people act like they are forced to buy it. It's just an extra option to play games, you still get to play the same games either way.
Re: 'It Felt Like Putting New Glasses On,' Claims First PS5 Pro Hands On
Clearly the image on the left is running on the Switch 😅.
Re: Talking Point: Is PS5 Pro Way Too Expensive?
It is just for an upgrade 4 years into the gen. In a other 3-4 years the PS6 will come out and will cost the same if not more.
These Pro consoles would be better off launching along side the standard console.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
Worst thing is, this will be the price for the PS6.... Atleast 😬.
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on PS5 Pro?
At that price with no disk drive? No chance. I think I'd rather get the PSVR2 instead with a few games on black friday.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Sales 'Aren't Huge' in UK, But There's Still Hope
Let's see what the total sales are like after Christmas, there's going to be quite a few parents who get this as presents and are probably waitimg for a price decrease first.