77% on metacritic which mess it's a good game, but unfortunately Visions of Mana and Astro Bot are out within the next two weeks so I won't be getting this until October.
The numbers on steam are rapidly declining, to a point that this article has twice the amount of comments than the game currently has playing it right now (136).
@DennisReynolds Yeah but not less than a month after release, Destiny 2 was out years before it went f2p. Also the MTX getting added are just cosmetics, they need battle passes as well but with such low player numbers I can't see adding Cosmetics ot Battle passes making a difference.
Reality is no one wants to create dedicated handheld games, so the only benefit of a new handheld would for it to only play games that are already on the consoles but natively. But like the steam deck it would struggle to run certain games properly unless ran at the lowest settings, but problem is playstation doesn't allow the editing of those settings. So developers would have to create another version to run on the Sony handheld which most wouldnt want to do. So if Sony do create a new handheld to play games natively then the amount of playable games would be very limited.
Seems like there's nothing Sony can do to save this game now, they can't make it free to play as they would have to refund all buyers plus there's no MTX for them to make money off even if it was free to play.
Theres also no point in putting it into Playstation plus as without MTX there's no real benefit of having a player boost.
Only real option is to abandon any future updates and not spend any more resources on the game, just leave the servers up for 12 months (or more) for those that have bought the game.
But hopefully this doesn't mean the closure of firewalk as obviously they have talent, maybe use them as a studio that helps on other playstation projects or allow them to get working on their next game and give them another chance.
I don't see it being revealed at TGS, maybe at Sony's next Showcase which hopefully won't be far away. I can definitely see them showing GTA 6 gameplay running on the PRO as a demo.
If the PRO is quite smaller than the original then I may get one, although I may need one anyway as my PS5 is having some issues lately where every now and then I turn it off and it won't turn back on unless I unplug it first, so yeah maybe time for an upgrade.
Pretty much what I expected, I'm enjoying the game so far. You can see why Sony are dabbling in the live service market as that's where the majority of players are at and where's theres more player engagement there's more money to make.
@Shepherd_Tallon Also says 100+ bought in past month on the PS5 version, yet says nothing on the Xbox version. I think this games sales may decided who gets the Persona 6 marketing.
@ShogunRok Also Playstation YouTube channel has over three times the amount of Subscribers than Xbox's channel, so technically trailers reach three times the amount of people which potentially means more word of mouth and in return more sales.
@breakneck Yeah I've noticed, but since all three sites are under the same umbrella surely one person can write an article that gets published across all three sites? For example game "X" is coming to PS5 and Series S/X so that article just gets put on both sites as is.
@Decimateh-xblz Don't get me wrong I know there's some players on xbox who buy games but primarily people own an xbox for gamepass or rely on gamepass for their games. I've seen so much gamepass version begging online and so people saying "il wait til it's on gamepass" for certain games.
And then there's the fact JRPG's don't do as well on Xbox and don't get much coverage on gaming sites, for example the latest Neptunia game releasing xbox hardly got any coverage, if not for Gematsu even I wouldn't have known about it. If Xbox want to get serious about JRPG's then they need to get all of them onto their system like the Trails games and Atelier games and maybe get some exclusives like they did with Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata.
@Malaise I think Microsoft thought this deal would bring in the Japanese players but with game news coverage easily found online people knew straight away the game was also coming to PS5, also all retailers listed the game for PS5 so it's kind of pointless. Even more so when you consider the game isn't even on gamepass and Xbox doesn't have any exclusive content to their version, so there's absolutely no incentive to get an Xbox for this game
These types of deals are pointless these days, the only deals worth the money are time exclusivity or exclusive content like Playstation did with Hogwarts Legacy and Marvel's Avengers.
And yet it will sell best on Playstation (and by a huge margin), Great marketing 😂. Do Sega not know that if it's not on gamepass then most Xbox players don't care. Even an xbox dedicated site like Purexbox have barely ran any coverage on it.
I've played all their games so far and I've enjoyed them all, massive fan of the anthology series. Me and the misses usually do a playthrough each and see who can have the most people left alive at the end, and suffice to say I always end up losing.
On PS5 i will be Continuing with Trails Through Daybreak and the brilliant The cult of the Lamb, how I didn't play this game before is beyond me, very addictive. I will also be playing a few matches of Concord in between single player sessions and I may even re download The Hunt Showdown.
On Switch I'm going to finally start the Splatoon 3 story mode, and I've just bought Maglam Lord in a sale so I will be giving that a try this weekend.
@Artois2 Yeah these people need to understand that live service games are more popular than single players games, you might get the odd single player game that sells gangbusters like Elden Ring, Hogwarts Legacy, Wukong or Spider-Man etc but the majority of gamers are playing online games.
Look at steams top 50 chart and count the number of single player games, over two thirds are online games.
Live Service is the biggest market in gaming across consoles, PC and mobile so why should Sony be expected to not join in? They do realise more money for Sony means more games and content for us PlayStation gamers.
The game isn't a bad game, the graphics are great, gameplay is great with great controls and mechanics, the vignettes are quite enjoyable and the characters aren't as bad as people are making them out to be.
I think the games main problem was not going free to play, it's a risk for people to pay £35 for a brand new IP for a game that's in an overcrowded genre of "Hero Shooter", especially when the other Hero Shooters are based on popular IP's already and have quite a die hard fan base who won't budge.
Free to Play with MTX is the way forward for Sony's live service games.
@PSfan4Life22 Do a lot of people actually want those games though? If Resistance and Killzone are so popular and in demand then why were their sales so poor compared to other Playstation games? Why did Killzone Shadowfall flop so bad? And for Socom the entire series only sold 4 million copies...
It reminds me of the Japan studio closure where everyone all of a sudden loved their games and were disappointed in Sony for closing them down, yet looking at the sales figures for their games it paints a different story.
It's like every publisher apart from Sony is allowed to make multiplayer games, this game and Fairgames were hated on from the get go before any gameplay shown. Yet those same people will be bashing Sony when they close Firewalk and Haven down.
@FatalBubbles Haha as soon as I saw it I knew I had to have it as an avatar, although when Astro Bot launches in sure there's going to be tonnes of Astro themed Playstation characters to choose from. Perosnally if there's a Cloud, Tifa or Aloy then I might change it.
@PuppetMaster My comment wasn't aimed at people like you who genuinely don't like the game for genuine reasons. But on this site particularly and on X (Twitter) the pitchforks were out the minute Sony announced the game and that it was a live service title. That was before any gameplay or characters we're shown, the game didn't stand a chance from the get go.
The game currently has a "very positive" review average on steam with 84% being good reviews, so it's obvious the majority playing the game are enjoying it and hopefully via that rating and word of mouth the player count will rise over the next few days (on steam atleast).
@AdamNovice Its just another excuse to hate on the game, infact most people already decided to hate on the game before any gameplay or characters were revealed. And then there's certain people who just hate anything related to Playstation so their comments automatically become invalid.
I've put two hours into it today and enjoyed my time with it, no issues with waiting times so far. As I've said before if I can get 50 hours out of this game then that's money we'll spent for me.
I can definitely see the game getting added to Playstation Plus within 6 months but boosted player numbers that way does nothing for revenue as there's no MTX. I think free to play with MTX is the way this game should have gone.
I agree they are showing too much, it must have had a huge budget and they want as many people to be hyped/interested as possible hence the amount of trailers they've put out.
Smart move getting Monster Hunter Wilds at their booth, this game is going to shift a tonne of PS5 consoles in Japan.
I'm also hoping for a release date which fingers crossed is for January/February. Also does anyone know if this MH will have cross play?
If Lego Horizon doesn't get a release by the time TGS ends then it's a safe bet it's not releasing this year, unless it's a shadow drop at Sony's next Showcase.
I never signed up for Stars and I'm glad I dididnt. I'd rather them scrap stars and just offer cashback on our purchases in the form of in store currency similar to what Nintendo do.
I think any live service and any big budget games will be coming to playstation. It's only a matter of time before Starfield comes over.
Also from Bethesda Indiana Jones, new Doom and Hi Fi Rush have made it over so id say any Bethesda game going forward has a big chance of it coming to playstation, if you like Bethesda games then there's no need to switch consoles for them.
Xbox console players are as high this year as they’ve ever been
I see this guy still talks a load of bull.
The Series Consoles are on course to sell less than the Xbox one, and he's also forgetting the highly successful 360 console. He's just fishing for excuses without thinking properly.
If you don't like a certain game, genre or a change within a game then that's fine, but it's absolutely pathetic to consistently hate on it and aim abuse at the developers. Just move on and find a game that makes you happy instead of continuously being negative towards something as simple as a video game.
My copy got sent out today so I will be there day one and looking forward to it. Even if the game dies after 3 months as long as I can get 50+ hours into it then it's worth the £32 I paid for it.
All over a flamethrower getting nerfed? Yeah that's pathetic. I doubt this will effect the game anyway as there's over 12 million players, so a small group threatening to sabotage the game means nothing.
I must have put over 1000 hours into the PS4 version, the game loop is just so addictive and the tension is unreal especially when you have the bounty and you know there's a team or two outside the building just waiting for you to come out. But I had to force myself away from the game as I was neglecting all the single player games and my backlog was piling up.
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Re: Site News: Where's Our Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Review?
77% on metacritic which mess it's a good game, but unfortunately Visions of Mana and Astro Bot are out within the next two weeks so I won't be getting this until October.
Re: Things Are Getting Worse for Floundering PS5, PC FPS Concord
The numbers on steam are rapidly declining, to a point that this article has twice the amount of comments than the game currently has playing it right now (136).
Re: Things Are Getting Worse for Floundering PS5, PC FPS Concord
@DennisReynolds Yeah but not less than a month after release, Destiny 2 was out years before it went f2p. Also the MTX getting added are just cosmetics, they need battle passes as well but with such low player numbers I can't see adding Cosmetics ot Battle passes making a difference.
Re: Rumour: Sony Paying Close Attention to Handheld Market After PS Portal's Shock Success
Reality is no one wants to create dedicated handheld games, so the only benefit of a new handheld would for it to only play games that are already on the consoles but natively. But like the steam deck it would struggle to run certain games properly unless ran at the lowest settings, but problem is playstation doesn't allow the editing of those settings. So developers would have to create another version to run on the Sony handheld which most wouldnt want to do. So if Sony do create a new handheld to play games natively then the amount of playable games would be very limited.
Re: Things Are Getting Worse for Floundering PS5, PC FPS Concord
Seems like there's nothing Sony can do to save this game now, they can't make it free to play as they would have to refund all buyers plus there's no MTX for them to make money off even if it was free to play.
Theres also no point in putting it into Playstation plus as without MTX there's no real benefit of having a player boost.
Only real option is to abandon any future updates and not spend any more resources on the game, just leave the servers up for 12 months (or more) for those that have bought the game.
But hopefully this doesn't mean the closure of firewalk as obviously they have talent, maybe use them as a studio that helps on other playstation projects or allow them to get working on their next game and give them another chance.
Re: Lust Over 16 Minutes of Unedited Metaphor: ReFantazio Gameplay
Wow, how much more they going to show? Pre Orders must be really low.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Was Allegedly Being Talked About Openly at Gamescom
I don't see it being revealed at TGS, maybe at Sony's next Showcase which hopefully won't be far away. I can definitely see them showing GTA 6 gameplay running on the PRO as a demo.
If the PRO is quite smaller than the original then I may get one, although I may need one anyway as my PS5 is having some issues lately where every now and then I turn it off and it won't turn back on unless I unplug it first, so yeah maybe time for an upgrade.
Re: Concord (PS5) - Live Service Debut Beats the Hate with Stellar Presentation and Good Gameplay
Pretty much what I expected, I'm enjoying the game so far. You can see why Sony are dabbling in the live service market as that's where the majority of players are at and where's theres more player engagement there's more money to make.
Re: Atlus Really Doesn't Want You to Know Metaphor: ReFantazio Is Coming to PS5
@Shepherd_Tallon Also says 100+ bought in past month on the PS5 version, yet says nothing on the Xbox version. I think this games sales may decided who gets the Persona 6 marketing.
Re: Atlus Really Doesn't Want You to Know Metaphor: ReFantazio Is Coming to PS5
@ShogunRok Also Playstation YouTube channel has over three times the amount of Subscribers than Xbox's channel, so technically trailers reach three times the amount of people which potentially means more word of mouth and in return more sales.
Re: Atlus Really Doesn't Want You to Know Metaphor: ReFantazio Is Coming to PS5
@breakneck Yeah I've noticed, but since all three sites are under the same umbrella surely one person can write an article that gets published across all three sites? For example game "X" is coming to PS5 and Series S/X so that article just gets put on both sites as is.
Re: Atlus Really Doesn't Want You to Know Metaphor: ReFantazio Is Coming to PS5
@Decimateh-xblz Don't get me wrong I know there's some players on xbox who buy games but primarily people own an xbox for gamepass or rely on gamepass for their games. I've seen so much gamepass version begging online and so people saying "il wait til it's on gamepass" for certain games.
And then there's the fact JRPG's don't do as well on Xbox and don't get much coverage on gaming sites, for example the latest Neptunia game releasing xbox hardly got any coverage, if not for Gematsu even I wouldn't have known about it. If Xbox want to get serious about JRPG's then they need to get all of them onto their system like the Trails games and Atelier games and maybe get some exclusives like they did with Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata.
Re: Atlus Really Doesn't Want You to Know Metaphor: ReFantazio Is Coming to PS5
@Malaise I think Microsoft thought this deal would bring in the Japanese players but with game news coverage easily found online people knew straight away the game was also coming to PS5, also all retailers listed the game for PS5 so it's kind of pointless. Even more so when you consider the game isn't even on gamepass and Xbox doesn't have any exclusive content to their version, so there's absolutely no incentive to get an Xbox for this game
These types of deals are pointless these days, the only deals worth the money are time exclusivity or exclusive content like Playstation did with Hogwarts Legacy and Marvel's Avengers.
Re: Atlus Really Doesn't Want You to Know Metaphor: ReFantazio Is Coming to PS5
And yet it will sell best on Playstation (and by a huge margin), Great marketing 😂. Do Sega not know that if it's not on gamepass then most Xbox players don't care. Even an xbox dedicated site like Purexbox have barely ran any coverage on it.
Re: Preview: Directive 8020 a 'Huge Step Forward' for the Dark Pictures Series on PS5
I've played all their games so far and I've enjoyed them all, massive fan of the anthology series. Me and the misses usually do a playthrough each and see who can have the most people left alive at the end, and suffice to say I always end up losing.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 543
On PS5 i will be Continuing with Trails Through Daybreak and the brilliant The cult of the Lamb, how I didn't play this game before is beyond me, very addictive. I will also be playing a few matches of Concord in between single player sessions and I may even re download The Hunt Showdown.
On Switch I'm going to finally start the Splatoon 3 story mode, and I've just bought Maglam Lord in a sale so I will be giving that a try this weekend.
Re: PS5, PC FPS Concord's Poor Player Numbers Have Predictably Gone Viral
@Artois2 Yeah these people need to understand that live service games are more popular than single players games, you might get the odd single player game that sells gangbusters like Elden Ring, Hogwarts Legacy, Wukong or Spider-Man etc but the majority of gamers are playing online games.
Look at steams top 50 chart and count the number of single player games, over two thirds are online games.
Live Service is the biggest market in gaming across consoles, PC and mobile so why should Sony be expected to not join in? They do realise more money for Sony means more games and content for us PlayStation gamers.
Re: PS5, PC FPS Concord's Poor Player Numbers Have Predictably Gone Viral
The game isn't a bad game, the graphics are great, gameplay is great with great controls and mechanics, the vignettes are quite enjoyable and the characters aren't as bad as people are making them out to be.
I think the games main problem was not going free to play, it's a risk for people to pay £35 for a brand new IP for a game that's in an overcrowded genre of "Hero Shooter", especially when the other Hero Shooters are based on popular IP's already and have quite a die hard fan base who won't budge.
Free to Play with MTX is the way forward for Sony's live service games.
Re: PS5, PC FPS Concord's Poor Player Numbers Have Predictably Gone Viral
@PSfan4Life22 Nobody has a problem with Sony making MP games dude
Was you on this site when Sony announced their live service plans?
Re: PS5, PC FPS Concord's Poor Player Numbers Have Predictably Gone Viral
@PSfan4Life22 Do a lot of people actually want those games though? If Resistance and Killzone are so popular and in demand then why were their sales so poor compared to other Playstation games? Why did Killzone Shadowfall flop so bad? And for Socom the entire series only sold 4 million copies...
It reminds me of the Japan studio closure where everyone all of a sudden loved their games and were disappointed in Sony for closing them down, yet looking at the sales figures for their games it paints a different story.
Re: PS5, PC FPS Concord's Poor Player Numbers Have Predictably Gone Viral
It's like every publisher apart from Sony is allowed to make multiplayer games, this game and Fairgames were hated on from the get go before any gameplay shown. Yet those same people will be bashing Sony when they close Firewalk and Haven down.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Concord?
@FatalBubbles Haha as soon as I saw it I knew I had to have it as an avatar, although when Astro Bot launches in sure there's going to be tonnes of Astro themed Playstation characters to choose from. Perosnally if there's a Cloud, Tifa or Aloy then I might change it.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Concord?
@PuppetMaster My comment wasn't aimed at people like you who genuinely don't like the game for genuine reasons. But on this site particularly and on X (Twitter) the pitchforks were out the minute Sony announced the game and that it was a live service title. That was before any gameplay or characters we're shown, the game didn't stand a chance from the get go.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Concord?
The game currently has a "very positive" review average on steam with 84% being good reviews, so it's obvious the majority playing the game are enjoying it and hopefully via that rating and word of mouth the player count will rise over the next few days (on steam atleast).
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Concord?
@AdamNovice Its just another excuse to hate on the game, infact most people already decided to hate on the game before any gameplay or characters were revealed. And then there's certain people who just hate anything related to Playstation so their comments automatically become invalid.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Concord?
I've put two hours into it today and enjoyed my time with it, no issues with waiting times so far. As I've said before if I can get 50 hours out of this game then that's money we'll spent for me.
I can definitely see the game getting added to Playstation Plus within 6 months but boosted player numbers that way does nothing for revenue as there's no MTX. I think free to play with MTX is the way this game should have gone.
Re: Atlus, It's Time to Stop Spoiling Metaphor: ReFantazio
I agree they are showing too much, it must have had a huge budget and they want as many people to be hyped/interested as possible hence the amount of trailers they've put out.
Re: Sony's TGS 2024 Plans Include Monster Hunter, Death Stranding, and a Real Life Astro Bot Gacha Machine
Smart move getting Monster Hunter Wilds at their booth, this game is going to shift a tonne of PS5 consoles in Japan.
I'm also hoping for a release date which fingers crossed is for January/February. Also does anyone know if this MH will have cross play?
If Lego Horizon doesn't get a release by the time TGS ends then it's a safe bet it's not releasing this year, unless it's a shadow drop at Sony's next Showcase.
Re: Sony to Short-Change PS Stars Members with PS Plus Renewals Starting Next Year
I never signed up for Stars and I'm glad I dididnt. I'd rather them scrap stars and just offer cashback on our purchases in the form of in store currency similar to what Nintendo do.
Re: Over 12 Million Fans Have Pre-Registered to Play PS5 Fashion RPG Infinity Nikki
Is that 12 million just on Playstation or across all platforms?
Re: Reaction: It's Time for Xbox to Tell Us Which Games It's Bringing to PS5, and Which Games It Isn't
I think any live service and any big budget games will be coming to playstation. It's only a matter of time before Starfield comes over.
Also from Bethesda Indiana Jones, new Doom and Hi Fi Rush have made it over so id say any Bethesda game going forward has a big chance of it coming to playstation, if you like Bethesda games then there's no need to switch consoles for them.
Re: Faaast Penguin Is Chaotic PS5 Multiplayer Fun from Japan
Pingu DLC would be perfect.
Re: Xbox on Bringing Exclusives to PS5: The Industry Is Changing for All of Us
Xbox console players are as high this year as they’ve ever been
I see this guy still talks a load of bull.
The Series Consoles are on course to sell less than the Xbox one, and he's also forgetting the highly successful 360 console. He's just fishing for excuses without thinking properly.
Re: Xbox Renegotiated Indiana Jones Deal to Exclude PS5, Then Ported It Anyway
Basically their plan on buying Bethesda thinking playstation gamers would flock to xbox failed massively and came back to bite them in the a**.
Re: Genshin Impact Boss Cries on Stage Following Harsh Fan Feedback
If you don't like a certain game, genre or a change within a game then that's fine, but it's absolutely pathetic to consistently hate on it and aim abuse at the developers. Just move on and find a game that makes you happy instead of continuously being negative towards something as simple as a video game.
Re: Concord Probably Best Played on PC, According to Official Features Trailer
My copy got sent out today so I will be there day one and looking forward to it. Even if the game dies after 3 months as long as I can get 50+ hours into it then it's worth the £32 I paid for it.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Gamescom Opening Night Live 2024?
With Indiana Jones coming to PS5 it's a safe bet that so will Elder Scrolls 6, and any other huge budget titles from Bethesda/Activision.
I'm happy knowing Borderlands 4 is coming next year and Monster Hunter Wilds continues to impress, next year is looking decent already.
Re: What Time Is Gamescom Opening Night Live 2024?
What's the biggest game to get revealed at a Gamescom? Just asking so I can set my expectations.
Re: Rumour: Xbox's Indiana Jones Game Coming to PS5 in First Half 2025
Well if Disney want to make money off this then of course they will want it on PS5.
Re: Poll: What PS5 Games Do You Most Want to See at Gamescom 2024?
No options for YS X, Visions of Mana or Farmagia 😔.
So my votes went to:
Astro Bot
Lego Horizon Adventures
Decapolice
Metaphor Re Fantazio
Star Wars Outlaws
Re: Helldivers 2 Community Fractures, Traitor 'Chaosdivers' Want to See Super Earth Burn
All over a flamethrower getting nerfed? Yeah that's pathetic. I doubt this will effect the game anyway as there's over 12 million players, so a small group threatening to sabotage the game means nothing.
Re: Until Dawn PS5 Is Priced at $60 / £60
I will wait for a sale as there's too many brand new games coming out over the next few months that I want and for the same price.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for August 2024?
Very happy with these additions, notably SAO Last Recollection, Cult of the Lamb and Wild Hearts.
Re: Hunt: Showdown Banishes PS4 Version, Boasts Unreal Engine 5 Visuals on PS5
I must have put over 1000 hours into the PS4 version, the game loop is just so addictive and the tension is unreal especially when you have the bounty and you know there's a team or two outside the building just waiting for you to come out. But I had to force myself away from the game as I was neglecting all the single player games and my backlog was piling up.
Re: Rumour: Xbox to Announce a 'Big' Game Coming to PS5 at Gamescom
Keep em coming Microsoft 😂.
Re: Concord Fires Off Another Salvo of PS5, PC Character Trailers
Not long left now, can't wait to jump into the full game.
Re: Square Enix Has Got Fans Talking About a Final Fantasy 13 Remake, Not a Remaster
Visually the game still holds up well so I don't think a remake is necessary. A remaster would be more than fine.
Re: 15 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Announced for August 2024
Thus is a pretty decent line up in my opinion.
Re: Arrowhead Unveils 60-Day Plan to Placate Rebellious Helldivers 2 Fans
Seems to me that the HellDivers 2 community is just toxic as hell, glad I don't play the game anymore.
Re: Don't Worry, Gamescom Opening Night Live Will Feature New Game Announcements
@Brawl4002 That was probably for Astro Bot, releases September 6th. Pretty sure we will get a date for Lego Horizon soon though 🤞.