@Nexozi Agreed. The people yet to upgrade from PS4/Xbox One are all potential Series X|S owners and I suppose something like this could get them to either stick or switch.
It's good to see it on Game Pass but I don't think this will affect things much one way or another. It might do if Microsoft ever advertised the thing!
People who already own a PS5 are massively unlikely to buy an Xbox just to get CoD on Game Pass.
I'm more intrigued by the next gen rumours of multiple hardware partners making Xbox consoles in the same way that it happens with PC/laptops. That could really shake things up if they succeeded where 3DO/Sega Saturn failed.
I still have my fingers crossed for a Dead Souls remaster/remake at some point soon. Even a straight port would be fine for me as the PS3 version still holds up today.
@The_Wailing_Doom Every single studio under Sony has been bought. When they launched the PlayStation there were no internal developers because Sony didn't make games. They bought them. And they've closed a lot of them. A LOT of them.
Microsoft were making video games in the early eighties. What have they done since that has been anti-consumer when it comes to PlayStation gamers???
@Ergoshotz The days of consoles are over. Next gen will be the last. Xbox have been saying this for years. Sony still want to sell you a box under your TV. Microsoft will be earning billions from PlayStation and yet you see it as a win for Sony because they'll have more boxes under the TV. Very odd logic. And when it comes to hardware and software, Nintendo will continue to obliterate both when it comes to sales numbers and profitability.
@The_Wailing_Doom And what do Sony do? More Xbox owned franchises are on PlayStation than the other way round. People act like Phil is evil and Sony are some kind of benevolent not for profit that only does the best for the industry.
All of the other recent Doom games have been multiplatform. I don't understand how this is news. Years ago, Xbox said that they wouldn't take games away from players who were already part of a certain community or fan base. The fact that the new Doom will be on PS5 is an absolute given. It always was.
I'll have my fingers crossed for something good though as Uncharted is still my absolute favourite series ever.
On a slightly separate note (but something that I think could do the things claimed here), imagine a game with the scope, polish, narrative and yet freedom of the best GTA/RDR games combined with a Sci-Fi setting.
Basically what I'm asking for is R* to make a Rick and Morty game.
There are lots of people here already saying they have no interest in the game and turning their noses up at it, who will be cheering loudly and saying "Day 1 for me!" if ever gets announced for PS5. 😂
@Netret0120 Well surely that would be better for you then? As you said, you wouldn't need to buy a PS5 at all. You as a gamer and consumer would benefit massively.
It almost sounds as if you want Sony to force you to buy a PS5.
The fact that R* was selling copies of the game including currency for cheaper than you could buy currency in game means there's a really weird economy with GTA V.
People were buying copies just to get virtual money then presumably selling their selling/trading in their copies to get more new copies and more currency. Very strange.
The PS5 is definitely the most underwhelming PlayStation I've ever owned. I boxed away my PS4 Pro when I got my PS5 around a year after launch and apart from PSVR2, there's pretty much no reason for me to own one.
I've even recently set my PS3 up again in my living room because it's more fun to play. I recently bought Puppeteer and have had way more fun with that than anything on PS5.
@Artois2 Exactly this! Why couldn't they have just had an amicable separation? I know there's probably a million business reasons why it went the way it did, but to just completely bin talented Devs with a well respected back catalogue just seems like utter madness.
@Martijn87 I don't think Nintendo has suffered the post pandemic knock back in the same way that Sony and Microsoft have. The Switch sold amazingly during the pandemic and releases like Animal Crossing just added to that. Nintendo's first party titles continue to sell ridiculous numbers despite being over 7 years old in some cases.
"After a transition period during the PS4 generation, the PS5 model has shifted to where playtime on platform has increased due to expansion of the user community beyond console generations."
In other words, you couldn't really make anything that compelling to show the big generational leap so you decided to push all the games onto PS4 as well so you'd make more money despite hampering the ability to show off what the PS5 can actually do.
@Maubari TBF, Xbox have been saying for years that selling hardware is irrelevant. And I'm fairly sure that the ABK deal they agreed with Sony only stipulated that Call of Duty had to be like for like on PlayStation hardware and Xbox hardware. If there's no Xbox hardware, then the game doesn't have to go to PlayStation hardware at all.
Either way, things are definitely not going well for the industry.
Apart from, as you said, Nintendo. They have their own corner of the market that they're very comfortable in.
Bespoke hardware that they sell for a profit. Hardware that sells millions upon millions.
First party titles that also sell millions upon millions (without costing hundreds of millions to make).
A gradually improving online offering (still very poor compared to Xbox and PS).
And a back catalogue of IP that's the envy of the entire industry.
I think Nintendo going their own way doesn't always work but right now they're incredibly strong.
It's slightly similar to what Xbox did after the ABK acquisition. Sarah Bond focussing on hardware and Matt Booty focussing on studios. That's been working out great so far! 🙂
And before anyone says it, I realise they both report to Phil Spencer.
@Artois2 The article says 'That's not quite on par with what we'd expect from, say, a AAA PlayStation Studios title, but it's still a very solid return for a single-player action game in the current climate.'
I think it's a bit unfair to compare a first full console game from a small studio that way.
Apart from those blocked out because of legal issues, this is pathetic.
It annoys me massively when companies pander to hissy fits from gamers like this. It only serves to give even more people the drive to shout loudly until they get whatever they want, no matter how pointless and trivial.
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Re: Capcom Making Resident Evil 0, Code Veronica Remakes Next, Reports Say
Thinking about it now, I would have liked if the remakes/new games each had a subtitle in the name with no number.
RE: Train Pain
RE: Spooky Mansion
RE: Cop Shop
RE: Racoon City
RE: Code Veronica
RE: Spanish Cult
RE: African Apocalypse
RE: QTE Terror
RE: Redneck Rampage
RE: Village
These aren't perfect but I like them more than numbers.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Live-Action Trailer Revealed
@CielloArc Or, the people who have Game Pass can buy the game with 20% off.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Live-Action Trailer Revealed
@ThorsHammer I think you mean $70billion and it's not a debt if you have the money in the bank.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Live-Action Trailer Revealed
@Nexozi Agreed. The people yet to upgrade from PS4/Xbox One are all potential Series X|S owners and I suppose something like this could get them to either stick or switch.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Live-Action Trailer Revealed
It's good to see it on Game Pass but I don't think this will affect things much one way or another. It might do if Microsoft ever advertised the thing!
People who already own a PS5 are massively unlikely to buy an Xbox just to get CoD on Game Pass.
I'm more intrigued by the next gen rumours of multiple hardware partners making Xbox consoles in the same way that it happens with PC/laptops. That could really shake things up if they succeeded where 3DO/Sega Saturn failed.
Re: Capcom Making Resident Evil 0, Code Veronica Remakes Next, Reports Say
I'm really hoping this is true. I played both of these to death on GameCube.
Re: SEGA 'Flat Out Rejected' Initial Pitches for Yakuza/Like a Dragon
I still have my fingers crossed for a Dead Souls remaster/remake at some point soon. Even a straight port would be fine for me as the PS3 version still holds up today.
Re: Rumour: New DOOM Game Reveal at Xbox Showcase, Coming to PS5
@The_Wailing_Doom Every single studio under Sony has been bought. When they launched the PlayStation there were no internal developers because Sony didn't make games. They bought them. And they've closed a lot of them. A LOT of them.
Microsoft were making video games in the early eighties. What have they done since that has been anti-consumer when it comes to PlayStation gamers???
Re: Rumour: New DOOM Game Reveal at Xbox Showcase, Coming to PS5
@Ergoshotz The days of consoles are over. Next gen will be the last. Xbox have been saying this for years. Sony still want to sell you a box under your TV. Microsoft will be earning billions from PlayStation and yet you see it as a win for Sony because they'll have more boxes under the TV. Very odd logic. And when it comes to hardware and software, Nintendo will continue to obliterate both when it comes to sales numbers and profitability.
Re: Rumour: New DOOM Game Reveal at Xbox Showcase, Coming to PS5
@The_Wailing_Doom And what do Sony do? More Xbox owned franchises are on PlayStation than the other way round. People act like Phil is evil and Sony are some kind of benevolent not for profit that only does the best for the industry.
Re: Rumour: New DOOM Game Reveal at Xbox Showcase, Coming to PS5
@The_Wailing_Doom Sorry. What games have Xbox taken away from PlayStation players?
Re: Rumour: New DOOM Game Reveal at Xbox Showcase, Coming to PS5
All of the other recent Doom games have been multiplatform. I don't understand how this is news. Years ago, Xbox said that they wouldn't take games away from players who were already part of a certain community or fan base. The fact that the new Doom will be on PS5 is an absolute given. It always was.
Re: This Is What Monster Hunter Stories Looks Like Running on PS5
I adored the first one on 3DS. Yes the graphics will be better for this release but not worth me replaying.
All the best for everyone who hasn't played it though.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Stellar Blade Is on Top Again, Sells 10,000+ Copies
Those Switch sales numbers are crazy for a console released in 2017.
Re: The Next Naughty Dog Game Its 'Most Thrilling Yet', Says Neil Druckmann
Under promise, over deliver Neil. 😂
I'll have my fingers crossed for something good though as Uncharted is still my absolute favourite series ever.
On a slightly separate note (but something that I think could do the things claimed here), imagine a game with the scope, polish, narrative and yet freedom of the best GTA/RDR games combined with a Sci-Fi setting.
Basically what I'm asking for is R* to make a Rick and Morty game.
Re: Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Dev Ninja Theory's Next Game Has Reportedly Been Greenlit
There are lots of people here already saying they have no interest in the game and turning their noses up at it, who will be cheering loudly and saying "Day 1 for me!" if ever gets announced for PS5. 😂
Re: Ghost of Tsushima PC Is Now PlayStation's Biggest Single Player Launch on Steam
@Netret0120 Well surely that would be better for you then? As you said, you wouldn't need to buy a PS5 at all. You as a gamer and consumer would benefit massively.
It almost sounds as if you want Sony to force you to buy a PS5.
Re: GTA 5 Makes Up Almost Half of Series' Sales, 200 Million Copies Sold
The fact that R* was selling copies of the game including currency for cheaper than you could buy currency in game means there's a really weird economy with GTA V.
People were buying copies just to get virtual money then presumably selling their selling/trading in their copies to get more new copies and more currency. Very strange.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima PC Is Now PlayStation's Biggest Single Player Launch on Steam
@Netret0120 Why would it bother you if a game launched day one on PC?
Re: A Lot of PS4 Owners Have Yet to Upgrade to PS5
The PS5 is definitely the most underwhelming PlayStation I've ever owned. I boxed away my PS4 Pro when I got my PS5 around a year after launch and apart from PSVR2, there's pretty much no reason for me to own one.
I've even recently set my PS3 up again in my living room because it's more fun to play. I recently bought Puppeteer and have had way more fun with that than anything on PS5.
Re: Is Crash Bandicoot, Spyro Studio Toys for Bob Teasing a New Game?
@Artois2 Exactly this! Why couldn't they have just had an amicable separation? I know there's probably a million business reasons why it went the way it did, but to just completely bin talented Devs with a well respected back catalogue just seems like utter madness.
Re: Sony Increasingly Focused on PS5 Playtime Alongside Hardware Sales
@NEStalgia But surely if the games keep selling millions, the user base is there?
Re: Sony Increasingly Focused on PS5 Playtime Alongside Hardware Sales
@Martijn87 I don't think Nintendo has suffered the post pandemic knock back in the same way that Sony and Microsoft have. The Switch sold amazingly during the pandemic and releases like Animal Crossing just added to that. Nintendo's first party titles continue to sell ridiculous numbers despite being over 7 years old in some cases.
Re: Sony Increasingly Focused on PS5 Playtime Alongside Hardware Sales
"After a transition period during the PS4 generation, the PS5 model has shifted to where playtime on platform has increased due to expansion of the user community beyond console generations."
In other words, you couldn't really make anything that compelling to show the big generational leap so you decided to push all the games onto PS4 as well so you'd make more money despite hampering the ability to show off what the PS5 can actually do.
Re: Hi-Fi Rush PS5 Physical Edition Is Still Happening Despite Studio Closure
I'm torn. I already own this on Xbox but part of me wants to make a protest purchase to highlight how stupid the decision to shut Tango is.
But then I'd be giving Microsoft more money.
But I also like having physical games.
Re: PS5 Sales Reach 59.3 Million as Sony Falls Just Short of Fiscal Year Forecast
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Re: PS5 Sales Reach 59.3 Million as Sony Falls Just Short of Fiscal Year Forecast
@LN78 This!!! My PS3 is happily getting a 2nd lease of life thanks to this generation being so dull.
Re: PS Portal Still Going Strong, Demand in USA Exceeds Supply
It's underpowered and overpriced.
Re: PS Portal Still Going Strong, Demand in USA Exceeds Supply
It's only a handheld in the sense that you can hold it in your hands. 😂
Re: Sony Committed to Better First-Party Games, 'Richer' Experiences, More PS5 Users
@Maubari TBF, Xbox have been saying for years that selling hardware is irrelevant. And I'm fairly sure that the ABK deal they agreed with Sony only stipulated that Call of Duty had to be like for like on PlayStation hardware and Xbox hardware. If there's no Xbox hardware, then the game doesn't have to go to PlayStation hardware at all.
Either way, things are definitely not going well for the industry.
Apart from, as you said, Nintendo. They have their own corner of the market that they're very comfortable in.
Bespoke hardware that they sell for a profit. Hardware that sells millions upon millions.
First party titles that also sell millions upon millions (without costing hundreds of millions to make).
A gradually improving online offering (still very poor compared to Xbox and PS).
And a back catalogue of IP that's the envy of the entire industry.
I think Nintendo going their own way doesn't always work but right now they're incredibly strong.
Re: Sony Committed to Better First-Party Games, 'Richer' Experiences, More PS5 Users
I really do get the feeling that we're on the cusp of a video game industry crash.
Re: Hermen Hulst, Hideaki Nishino Replace Jim Ryan As PlayStation CEOs
It's slightly similar to what Xbox did after the ABK acquisition. Sarah Bond focussing on hardware and Matt Booty focussing on studios. That's been working out great so far! 🙂
And before anyone says it, I realise they both report to Phil Spencer.
Re: Hermen Hulst, Hideaki Nishino Replace Jim Ryan As PlayStation CEOs
@QiaraIris Oscar??? 😂
Re: Braid, Anniversary Edition (PS5) - A Gorgeous Revisit of an Indie Classic
I've always really disliked the main character sprite. He just annoys me for some reason.
Re: Square Enix to 'Aggressively' Pursue Multiplatform Strategy from Now On
This is how it always should have been.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Stellar Blade Loses Out to Sea of Thieves in Europe, Helldivers 2 Is Still King in US
@Artois2 Yeah sometimes I get grumpy.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Stellar Blade Loses Out to Sea of Thieves in Europe, Helldivers 2 Is Still King in US
@Artois2 The article says 'That's not quite on par with what we'd expect from, say, a AAA PlayStation Studios title, but it's still a very solid return for a single-player action game in the current climate.'
I think it's a bit unfair to compare a first full console game from a small studio that way.
Re: Founders, Long-Time Employees Reportedly Say Xbox Now Effectively Microsoft Gaming
A complacent Sony is bad for the industry.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Stellar Blade Loses Out to Sea of Thieves in Europe, Helldivers 2 Is Still King in US
Stellar Blade is not a AAA game so why even make the comparison?
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Stellar Blade Loses Out to Sea of Thieves in Europe, Helldivers 2 Is Still King in US
@Juanalf Seriously, grow up.
Re: Capcom Hits Record High Profits for Seventh Year in a Row
Well deserved for Capcom. A good mix of sequels, remakes and some newish stuff.
Re: Tango Gameworks, Arkane Austin, More Closed in Brutal Bethesda Restructure
Disgusting, indefensible and shocking.
Re: Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement Backtracked on PC After Brutal Review Bombing Campaign
Apart from those blocked out because of legal issues, this is pathetic.
It annoys me massively when companies pander to hissy fits from gamers like this. It only serves to give even more people the drive to shout loudly until they get whatever they want, no matter how pointless and trivial.
Re: Sony and Apollo Reportedly Make $26 Billion All-Cash Paramount Bid
@mrbone And when did I ever use the term fanboy?
Stop trying to cause an argument.
Re: Sony and Apollo Reportedly Make $26 Billion All-Cash Paramount Bid
@mrbone There's already one comment.
Re: Sony and Apollo Reportedly Make $26 Billion All-Cash Paramount Bid
@Futureshark One of the worst titles ever. So disappointing.
Re: Sony and Apollo Reportedly Make $26 Billion All-Cash Paramount Bid
@get2sammyb Do you have a personal opinion on whether it should happen?
Re: Sony and Apollo Reportedly Make $26 Billion All-Cash Paramount Bid
There will be a ton of PlayStation diehards here saying that it's a great move for Sony to buy up Paramount and all of its IP.
The same people who slammed Microsoft for buying ABK no doubt.
Re: Sony and Apollo Reportedly Make $26 Billion All-Cash Paramount Bid
@BusyOlf People were massively impressed by the game footage from what I read. I thought it looked brilliant. Terrible name though.
Re: Sony Sings PS Portal's Praises with Accolades Trailer
I'm still massively torn on this.
On the one hand, it's another overpriced, underpowered luxury accessory from Sony.
On the other hand, I could play my PS5 a lot more whilst my wife is hogging the TV watching Below Deck.